agenta999:

nigerians are cowards. according to fela, that is why one person can ride on 1 million people, all nigerian no want die because papa dey for house, mama dey for house, they won build house, army man go slap your face you go dey look like donkey.
yes we are tired of being cowards here in italy, because the thing is becoming so crazy. we want to tell those few criminals(embassador and his boys)  that enough is enough.

    You are probably on the fore front of this revolt, cd u pls brief us on what happened? or has the plan not been executed?
you may kindly inbox me d details, i live in italy also. i would like to protest though I do not subscribe to burning the embassy, & dt does not necessarily translate to cowardice

agenta999:

i also heard that the "nigerian association padova branch" will participate in the action. this is the first good thing nigerians will ever do here in italy.

first good thing?
you think we (including you) are all so bad?

@SSaemoeni, cd u pls give me the right number to call if u hv it? and the location address as well, I want to try my luck there before I go naija go do d thing
many tx

@Medlabgirl
Please what's your take on an academic career in Canada? the best region? I intend to have my postdoc in Canada and subsequently settle there working as a scientist cum university professor or research scientist in pharmac industry.Meanwhile I would be visiting soon to work in a laboratory for some months, and I was wondering where you would pick as an ideal place. I am a mol biologist soon to finish a doctorate in italy, well i am a people person and would like a place where I can meet fellow Nigerians.
I think your post is a great one. Regards.

1. It is the inalienable right of FIFA to administer world football as dictated by its rules which are ratified by all members including Nigeria.
2. It is the inalienable right of Nigeria to take whatever steps she thinks would better position her football. The step may be right or wrong.
3. In the context of FIFA rules, the decision of NIgeria may be seen as an offence. That does not make FIFA a vilain, mafia, or demigod. Rules are rules. You cannot disobey rules EVEN when you think or know you have good intentions
4. If Nigeria thinks FIFA rules are unreasonable, then she is free to opt out. Not all the countries of the world belong to FIFA
5. In any case, flouting FIFA rules is seen as an indirect notice of withdrawal from the body, hence the suspension till a country comes back.
6. If you have a problem, then all country members of FIFA should change FIFA rules, not kill Sepp Blatter and his guys who only enforce the rules made by country reps in FIFA
7. If we are sure that the FG's decision is s right one, AND sure also that FIFA ban would not be detrimental, why not? FIFA suspension might just be the sacrifice to pay for progress. BUT if we are not sure, then something might go wrong, very very wrong

colors:

@ neuro pls wats your email addy. the school is in lado sarai, new delhi

cycloneblue@ymail.com

@Poster, your best bet is to request the institute or the organizers of the training to kindly assist with getting an accommodation that suits your intended purpose and length of stay. if your friend is staying for a short period, it might be difficult to arrange an accommodation from here.
well, if you would like to mail me the location in Delhi, the intended length of stay etc, maybe i might be able to get some friends to help.

@Poster, i think u probably need to give more information, what did they give as reason for the denial? it's not possible to get a blanket denial from any embassy without a reason at least. Are you sure he applied correctly? To my knowledge it's not so difficult to get visa to India, in fact you could apply and get it in 48 hours, all things being equal o.
I suggest you go back there, at the entrance you will find notices giving information about the application process, or better still check the website of the Indian high commisioner to nigeria.
The host in India would probably have to take some steps too, he probably needs to get a ministerial clearance on behalf of his friend, and that i think may take up to 3 months. If he has the clearance, and he goes through the required processes, he should get a visa even if he wants to go and preach to Mammohan Singh , and I doubt the preacher is applying to go to the Kashmir region, in which case they might be quite restrictive.

pak:

@Tundekas
Thanks for sharing about your case, quite encouraging
but the issue is, mine was an inter bank transaction i.e. used a GTB card on an oceanic quickcash ATM
and its already over 3 weeks and I've definitely been to the branch where my account was opened.


@nuero
Thanks for your response
but am quite suprised at your take on my post

You opened the thread and threatened fire(legal action) against GTB
I have just complained about a problem with the same bank, though not exactly same as yours but
still involves being deprived of ones hard earned cash, and you are advising (and infact pleading with) me not take
a legal recourse.
You were infact 'ASSURING' me and telling me i 'DONT' need court action in caps.
Are you a staff of GTB or CBN or EFCC or NIPPS or what ? How come you are bold enough to
give such assurances, something does not smell right here.

If my case goes as yours, that means I will be denied of value for my money for 11 months.
Can you imagine if perhaps I become a multi millonaire by that time, then the value of 40k will no longer
be the same to me and I would have lost the value I could have enjoyed on it now forever.
Or If God forbid, I need money so much very soon and I have to borrow 40k, will they agree
to pay the interest on my loan then ?

My major problem is even their lackasaidical attitude, just telling me 'pending' and nothing more
I work in IT and I know it takes less than a day to get responses from Interswitch as regards transaction details.

Am not angry neuro just a bit taken aback by your angle.

however am still open to advice as regards my next course of action

@Pak, well it's ok bt ,like u, i also feel u did nt really ustand my position.i guess d feeling is mutual somehow, howbeit nt accurate.
No i dnt work for GTB, neither do i hv a family member dt works there, i'm a man of the research laboratory with absolutely no inclination 2wards commerce-related careers.
If u read my initial post again, i DID NOT THREATEN legal action against gtb, no. i said i was CONSIDERING it as an option, dt ws why i asked for inputs anyway.little shades of semantics cd mean a lot. I'm considering dt cos in my case d bank is saying im guilty of carelessnes, which im nt. This is 1 area where urs is different. Yes i understand d bank is passive abt it bt d bank hs nt said to u "no, we cnt do anythn abt ur lost money" i thnk the 2 are different.in my case they said dt!!(well maybe they said dt bt u hv nt told us dt)
I capitalised my words in d context of logical reasoning and personal experience and d experiences of many others dt i know. It's d same as somebody saying "ur father WILL NOT kill u, i ASSURE u", dt doesnt mean fathers never kill there children, bt within d limits of reason, considering d odds for and against, a person might issue such assurance. Wen i said dt im simply saying dt u hv a case, d bank knows, d bank hs nt outrightly said no u dnt hv a case, many people hv experienced d same thn & they hv resolved it without going to court(I hv done 1, at least), u will waste time & money & ultimately kill a mosquito wt a scud missile, so i concluded it ws nt necessary
wanna hear d truth? banks are never serious, all banks r neva in a hurry to attend to ur complaints,all banks show apathy, lassitude and passivity when relating 2 customers, in naija !!
Understand dt in my case i ws nt ard d country to give proper follow up.so urs doesnt hv to take dt long. though when i showed up it still didnt move as i expected. But some peole hv rsolved theirs in few weeks. Injustice of any kind makes my blood boil, while im angry at such a system dt deprives u of ur hard-earned money, im also realistic enough to know dt such things happen in a country like ours. Its dis thot dt takes d pressure out of u and makes u pursue ur money. I ustand dt its nt very nice while u r waiting and going round to talk to some people who thnk they r doing u a favour by being ur bank. See dis is nigeria!!thns dnt happen as fast as u thnk they shld. And to be fair to d system, inter-bank stuffs , expectedly, may take some time. In my own case, when my wife was threatening fire and brimstone, and she felt i was too understanding, i took her to d bank manager who graphically painted d difficulty of tracing such money, while also admitting their own laxity and irresponsibility.
If ur bank , for example, can push things fast, cn they go and push d other bank? Im only saying u might need to be patient cos experience hs shown dt u will win.
However if u still feel dt im holding briefs for d bank, please feel free to institute legal action o!!!!! bt , if my statistics was right as at january 2010, u wld be d first person to sue a bank over non-dispensing, and wrong debiting by a money machine. of course ther's no prob wt dt .
I was taught dt d shortest distance between any 2 points is a straight line. bt of course even a trapezoid itinerary wld lead there, after some time
So dis is my story o, nothing personal here, jst advising like a friend, pls excuse my, whatever u see it as, bt i mean absolutely well.
I share ur pain, im going thru mine quietly also, and believe me im still using gentle diplomacy with d bank now despite d fact dt d lost money ws part of wt i ws supposed 2 use during d christening of my child!! i knw if i push dem too hard and too rough and threaten court action, they will say fine lets go, and i will spend millions to look for thousands.dt doesnt mean iv ruled out legal action bt its my last resort.
opinions are like noses, everybody has one, if u feel differently, i ustand, no prob at all at all o!!!!!!!
sorry for writing a volume
i rest my case
Good luck man

@Pak
@tundekas
pak, ur case is different, ur prob ws incorrectly dispensed cash, & dt happens quite freqly.I hv had several of dt as well, and d last i hd ws at a UBA bank using my Skye bank card. i jst got a refund last month, and d incident happened last year july!! Dnt be scared though,i wsnt in d country 2 push strongly. i hd 2 do everythn by correspondence
however I ASSURE u,u will get ur money back. Pls b patient though, cos it takes some time. and u DON"T need a court action,its nt so difficult.d prob is d 2 banks hv 2 communicate, then d bank dt owns d ATM machine wld literally rewind their books to locate d undispensed money, and coupled wt admin bureaucracies, time is inevitably lost. try to be patient.
in my case,somebody actually used an ATM card to withdraw money frm my acct while my card ws still wt me,i got to knw only when i met an empty acct wen i went to make a withdrawal.
Totally different man
regards

I'm nt a clearing agent pls, it's jst dt i'm thnkn abt doing exactly wt u wnt 2 do, frm general enquiries, it shld b btw 100-150k.
bt pls where u shipping it frm?
and if u dnt mind pls i wld like to seek some clarifications cos i'm jst abt buying a Montero 04 also.
if its nt a prob u may gv me ur email contact. mine is ayoayodelestephen@yahoo.com.
best wishes

I thank u all for d different shades ot opinions and suggestions
I hv nt been replying to individual posts cos i did nt get a reply notification frm NL, maybe its cos i changed my email ad sometime ago or cos d post was moved frm another section.
anyway thank u all.
Well, i cnt understand hw d PIN cd hv been compromised,d odds r stacked heavily against it.
At no time did the ATM card leave my possession. When i went to complain @ d bank I showed them my ATM card
The bank said it wld investigate and get back to me, I just sent them a reminder
Yes i was receiving transaction notifications well before d incident, but shortly before d fraud withdrawals they stopped, and almost immediately after d acct was emptied the resumed.
Yes i knw dtits extremely to prove that there ws no PIN compromise, yes , dts why my argument is on d negligence of d bank in sending alerts, a service for which they charge me. Dt i cnt prove dt there wnt PIN compromise does nt mean there was,there r many thns we knw r true bt which we cn neva prove.
I read extensively abt d different ways fraudsters perpetrate dis evil, and it may interest those people who support d PIN COMPROMISE THEORY dt there r many ways this thn is done. Just pray u dnt fall a victim
I thnk we will continue to use ATM anyway, every technology has its archille's heel.
Again, i wrote to get suggestions and advice, nt to try a publicity stunt, i hv nothn 2 gain frm dt rubbish
Thank you all well-meaning NLanders, im most grateful.

@ Knotty , @ Agitator, I thank u for at least contributing bt i mst tell u i am highly incensed by ur comments suggesting dt dis post is jst an attempt @ publicity or advertisement. OMG!!! hw cd u thnk like dt? Now for d records and for d sake of others who may toll ur lines of thnkn hear dis
I dnt knw any of d people u talked abt.
2. I dnt even live in nigeria!!! check my ip address if u cn , u will see i'm communicating frm Italy!! The incident happened last year while I was in d country.
3. The acct is domiciled at GTB Ilupeju, u cn go and find out
im tryn nt 2 get angry bt im compelled to hate dis nonsense! Many people hv said things dt r nt exactly complimentary bt suggesting a publicity stunt is jst an opinion carried too far for God's sake
check my profile and u will see dt i joined NL a couple of weeks ago, I dnt sell books, I am a doctoral student in an italian lab
type my real name Oyadeyi A.S on Google and you will see some of my scientific publications and d fact that I work for a Nigerian University as well
I am angry , very angry

@Jeffman and countryman, thanks a lot, may i communicate wt u guys via email?

@nedostic, i added u on yahoo and i sent u my id, im online almost 4eva( ) though hidden,if u buzz me i'll connect, cheers

@ Poster & thugpassio, poster is funny , thugpassio's name is revealing
koso whaaaaaaat??!!!!
ur joking,bt in case u r serious then I also want to sell Lagos third Mainland bridge, any buyer, or any advice?
hahahahahahahahahahah

Yes I am, i tot wt i gave u were hard facts, anyway i'm all ears

well, i thnk my estimate is nt far frm d actual values, it's crazy really, very crazy. but it may nt be too much for a price for a purpose-driven migration

In shor simple steps:
1. Take your O'level & BSc certs (original and i thnk max of 3 copies each)to ministry of education in abuja, then ministry of foreign affairs. they will be confirmed & certified
2. Get them translated into Italian by an official translator.
3. Go to Italian consulate in Lagos and apply for legalization of docs. you will pay i thnk btw 70-100k depending on d number, and d places ur certs come from.
4. They will give u at least 3 months for collection. Before dt time a lawyer goes round all ur schools and investigates, then finally comes to ur residential ad too.
5.After, u get ur docs(photocopies) frm d consulate, stamped, signed,sealed, with a note of value declaration, valorie in loco
6. apply for admission in ur institution of choice. U cnt get admitted without these docs, esp if u r applyn 4 a funded prog.
U will also make an affidavit of age declaration, then get a birth cert frm national population commission. this also must go to d consulate wt ur credentials for legalization
if u r lucky then u r in italy.
But u nid a high dose of patience, Italian consulate in nigeria is one of d worst in d world, and iv been to quite a number.
I advise u dnt plan 2 work seriously for ur 1st year, when u will be struggling to adjust 2 a new environ, and d language. its dificult to get a job if u dnt ustand italian.
nt a bad country, like all of europe d global economic issue is making jobs very very dificult to find. but people survive, why wnt u?
if u must come , better u come as a student, and apply 4 a prog with
hopethis helps somehow
best wishes

@ Stagger, many thanks, and congrats on your new book.Unfortunately I might not have been helped a great deal.I understand your right to profit from your intellectual property, maybe I was expecting no-strings-attached contributions.All the same, thanks, and keep up the good work of writing books to enlighten us. I promise to think about getting your book.

Good day everybody,

Please I am writing to seek advise/guidance from anybody who may have any to offer. Sometime last year, a large sum of money was withdrawn from my GTB account, yet I did not lose my ATM card at any point in time. I wote GTB and they replied me that my PIN must have been compromised or somebody I knew probably used my ATM card. In short, they passed the buck right back to me. I felt really incensed because none of these things happened, anyway they promised to get the picture of the fraudster who made the withdrawals.

In my reply to them, I anchored my case on the fact that shortly before and throughout  the fraud withdrawals the bank did not send me any phone or e-mail alert, which could have alerted me to complain earlier. Interestingly, just after my account was completely looted, the bank started sending alerts on any transactions on my account. Till date the bank has not replied my letter. Now I am contemplating a legal option but I want to know what my options are and if I stand any chances.

Please what are my options? I anchor my case on a simple premise which is: GTB failed to discharge a service of giving me alerts on my bank acount, a service for which I pay for, as a result of their negligience I  lost  a fortune ,therefore I am seeking a redress for the financial loss Do you think I have a case? if yes do you know any legal practitioner or group that can help me in this regard?

Kindly let me know if or how I should proceed to handle this.

Many thanks,
Ayo