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| Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 9:31am On May 04, 2006 |
to me i believe chelsea has made the worst buys, 21milllion pounds cannot accounted for, its a sheer waste, and maybe benjani mwariwari for portsmouth, who finally scored a goal after over 10 starts, |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 10:16am On May 05, 2006 |
Good to mention Shaun but that is his first season in stamford bridge though. Can you remind me how much Baba Alex paid for Veron and how much they sell him? Can you also tell me more about the miss-buy of Mr Wenger in "fox-in-the-box" ? 1 Like
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| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Jackal(m): 11:54am On May 05, 2006 |
@ Akola, Ferguson bought Veron for £28.1m and sold him for £14m after 2 seasons. Veron cldn't cope with the pace of the English football and was sold to Chelsea. This is a far cry from Shawn Wright Phillips and most especially Didier Drogba. Drogba was bought for a whooping sum of £24m and he is the most inconsistent striker in Chelsea. A player of drogba's calibre should be scoring 20-25 goals in a season for Chelsea. Arsenal has Thierry Henry. Man Utd has RVN but who is Chelsea's hit-man? Lampard(Midfielder) What does that tell u? It simply means ur strikers are non-existent. I will leave the other mis-buys in Chelsea's ranks for a later date. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by nightrider: 3:06pm On May 05, 2006 |
shawn wright phillips is a fantastic player. Chelsea killed him. the team was already full, i don't know what they bought him for. He was dumb in going there. He should have gone to arsenal or man-u, that woulda been better for him |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 4:51pm On May 05, 2006 |
Jackal: That is a big loss. Isnt it? 28.1 minus 14 = £14.1m loss |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 4:57pm On May 05, 2006 |
nightrider: We dont have a good right winger in the mould of my friend Alexander Hleb. Do we? We have two wingers and all of them are lefties so we go for Shaun. He is a dissapointment but i hope he pick himself up. Why is Mr wenger keeping Theo Walcott away since? £2000 a week since few months ago. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Priscila(f): 5:02pm On May 05, 2006 |
I also ask myself that question cos I have heard Walcott is the in-thing. May be at his age -he is just a long term investment for us. Hero Wenger always has our best interest and investment. Philips-I liked that Bobo from the first day I saw him and discoverd he was a black Englishman. Blues! why waste this precious man now? He should quit! |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 5:04pm On May 05, 2006 |
@ Akolawole, Dont whinge about Veron. He was never going to cope with English Football and Chelsea bought him from Man Utd. How much did we buy David Beckham and how much was it sold for? Do the math! |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 5:10pm On May 05, 2006 |
hucarson: Cool down, i have not started yet. People like to say a lot of rubbish about other clubs while they try to protect their own. Didnt you notice NightRider ignore Francis Jeffers issue. We are not discussing David yet. Veron is a miss-buy. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 5:17pm On May 05, 2006 |
Jackal: To you Drogba may be a miss-buy. He is not a super Striker like Henry and co but in terms of contribution to the team, he has done well. He has few Man-of-the-match awards this season. Ask Sendross, Yobo and your Ferdinand, they will tell you his ability. Did you say he's the most inconsistent Striker? How many premiership goals has Reyes and Lumberge scored this season? |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 5:33pm On May 05, 2006 |
Reyes and Ljunberg have been delivering in the past. We r not talking about the performances this season but overall performance in the Premiership. Ljunberg has been instrumental to Arsenal's achievements in the past. He was very valuable in the 2001/02 season when Pires got injured. Reyes is also a very brilliant player who has delivered times without number in 2003/04 season. Drogba is yet to justify his £24m price-tag. A player of his class should be scoring 25 goals a season easily. Drogba is non-existent and has never threatened Rio Ferdinand's confidence before. Drogba is a huge mis-buy as far as i am concerned. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 5:47pm On May 05, 2006 |
well, drogba is not the most inconsistent striker in the premiership, there are so many inconsistent strikers, look at heskey, crouch, jon stead of sunderland, forsel, morientes, so if you guys mention drogba and ljunberg, by d way ljunberg is not an out and out striker, besides reyes doesn't play a striking role most times, when arsenal plays 4-5-1 he is used as a left winger because of his pace, but drogba is not the most inconsistent |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 5:55pm On May 05, 2006 |
@ Lordimpaq, What kinda comparison are u making here? Do u realise how strong Chelsea's midfield and defence is? A team with such strong foundation to build up an attack should have strikers that score mad goals. Put Henry or Rooney in Chelsea's attack and u will be surprised how shambolic Drogba is. A team as strong as Chelsea should have a super-striker that can deliver 25-30 goals in a season EASILY. Drogba is a mis-fit and a mis-buy. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 6:00pm On May 05, 2006 |
agreed, but the way mourinho plays drogba is different, drogba fits in chelsea's style of play, of course the worst finisher is drogba everyone knows that, his one on one is woeful, but his aerial ability is compared to none, in the EPL even crespo should have done better, crespo style of play doesn't correlate with mourinho's style,, most times they play with a lone striker and have maybe cole and robben or duff and robben or duff and cole operating just outside and then lampard behind drogba , drogba is there for a reason, and he is justifying that very well, because of his aerial ability, drogba is just like jan koller of czech republic in euro 2004, he was there for the huge presence and his aerial ability, also know one thing drogba has higher assists in chelsea |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by mochafella(m): 6:08pm On May 05, 2006 |
um, I beleive this is where lordimpaq got his list from. http://soccernet.espn.go.com/columns/story?id=366543&root=england&cc=5901 I actually think SWP was not given a chance to play. Some other players on the list got playing time and did not perform. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by menike(m): 6:11pm On May 05, 2006 |
What do y'all think of Bellion, Smith (Man U) Geremi, Johnson(Chelski) Jeffers, Alaidere (Arsenal) Luque (Newcastle) |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 6:13pm On May 05, 2006 |
@mochafella rightly said, i mentioned players that were not in their list, e.g. benjani of portsmouth, @menike, i actually meant it to be this season, if it was previous seasons, then we can jeffers, aladiere, luque, and rest will be but smith is not a bad buy for a "midfielder" |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 6:14pm On May 05, 2006 |
@ Menike, Smith is top-notch. He has been converted from a striker to a defensive midfielder. He stopped Chelsea's midfield machine at OT convincingly. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 6:19pm On May 05, 2006 |
@huc, well said, please tell him very well |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by menike(m): 6:20pm On May 05, 2006 |
hucarson: Yeah but I still view him as a Striker. But it's all good |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 10:24pm On May 05, 2006 |
lordimpaq: Thank you. hucarson: How many goals did Drogba scored in his two seasons at Chelsea. Brazillian Ronaldinho described him as the best in Aerial . Which was proved against Yobo few weeks ago at stamford bridge and in Munich against Bayern last year. In fact Henry cannot score both goals. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 1:02am On May 06, 2006 |
Akolawole, Don't let us drag this issue too long. I still insist Drogba has not justified his price-tag in the Premiership. Do u know Van Nistelrooy scored a whooping 36 goals in his debut season at Man Utd? He was voted the PFA's player award in his 1st season and Henry pipped him by just one goal in the same season(2001/02). He also bagged the highest goal scorer in UEFA champions league with 10 goals in the same season. The following season, He scored 44 goals in 2002/03 season to become the Premiership's highest goal scorer. He also broke his own record at UEFA champions league to top the scorer's chart with 14 goals. Thatz back to back UEFA champions league scorer's chart dominance. This is what i call a good buy. He justified the £19m splashed on him instantly and he has been one of the best bargain in the history of the Premiership. Henry has also achieved a lot for Arsenal. He has scored more than 200 goals since joining and these achievements cannot just be over-looked. Henry has dominated the Premiership scorers chart and he has won the award 3 times in the last 4 seasons. Anutha good bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How many goals has Didier scored in the premiership since he joined Chelsea? Drogba scored 10 goals last season and has scored anutha 12 goals this season in the Premiership. Even Wayne Rooney who plays as a supporting striker has delivered more than Drogba in front of goal. Chelsea needs a hot-shot that will compete with Thierry Henry or Van Nistelrooy. He has been woeful in front of goals. Comparing Peter Crouch or Jon stead to Drogba is rather unfair because Chelsea's got more quality. Look at Chelsea's midfield and compare it to Sunderland's or Portsmouth. It's no match. Drogba should be causing more havoc in the defence than he is doing. What makes u think Drogba is the best aerially? Please quote where Ronaldinho appraised Drogba being the best aerially. I doubt if Drogba is better than Ruud Van Nistelrooy or Morientes or even Hernan Crespo aerially. Drogba is not clinical and he needs to work more on his finishing. In conclusion, Drogba is the wackest striker in the Premiership. His best skill/stealth is diving. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 1:14am On May 06, 2006 |
hucarson: I have never compare Didier with Henry or Ruud. He is not clinical finisher but we don't regret buying him at all. He make up is deficiency by supporting the team, he has a wonderful season for us. Did you see those two goals i was reffering to? Henry and Ruud cannot use their head but they are very very good. In aerial situation, DD is far better. [ The Ronaldinho quote is from a magazine]. Email me your address and i will post last year's Chelsea's season review to you, for you to see few of his goals. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by hucarson(m): 1:19am On May 06, 2006 |
I dunno about Thierry Henry but RVN has scored more goals than Drogba with his head. RVN is the most clinical header of the ball in the Premiership but United don't use the long ball method like Chelsea. I want to draw ur mind back to Lyon V Man Utd UEFA match last season. U need to see RVN's 1st goal. It was simply subliminal. 1000 Didier Drogbas cannot score that kind of goal. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 1:33am On May 06, 2006 |
Now you are putting sentiments in this. I am sure you never watch the two goals i am talking about. Go and read my objective comments about Ruud in that thread comparing Ruud with Henry. I rest my case here. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by nightrider: 6:35pm On May 06, 2006 |
kola please don't mention francis jeffers when you are talking drogba. Drogba contributes physically to play, but thats not why he was bought. He was bought to finish the season as chelsea's highest goal scorer. And compete with henry and RVN etc. Reyes is not played as a striker, he is played as aleft winger most times. I think Arsene is converting him. His pace is the most deadly thing about him not his finsihing and thats what arsene is explioting. if a better striker is bought, drogba will sit on the bench and you know it. Wright phillips is a terrible buy because of the club that bought him, not because he is a terrible player. He should move or chelsea will kill his career. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 7:30am On May 07, 2006 |
yeah if the striker can be as physical as drogba, i also hear mourinho went to brazil to check Tevez, u guys wan buy the whole world, all the same that doesn't gurantee you guys will win the UCL, |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 11:44am On May 07, 2006 |
nightrider: Please read up before you comment, i am only responding because you are are a football person, if it is one of those boys, i will just keep my mouth shut. I am not comparing Drogba with Jeffers at all, they are not in the same wavelength. I mentioned Jeffers as one of the miss-buys and i know no single Gunners will admit that. Didier is not a super striker, we are happy with him anyway, his contribution to the team is better than Crespo. Playing for Femo Scorpion of Eruwa is definitely different from playing for Eyinmba. Please tell me what happen to Shaun on his first-two trainning at Chelsea. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 11:45am On May 07, 2006 |
he was a misbuy, everyone knows that, |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 11:51am On May 07, 2006 |
He was a mis-buy to you outsiders. What is Jeffers? France footballer of the year is a mis-buy UEFA highest goal scorer for Marsielle in 2003/2004 is a mis-buy. |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by Akolawole(m): 11:56am On May 07, 2006 |
nightrider: Please dont tell me that. If there is one team i know a lot about, its Arsenal. Reyes is a striker. The laughing Striker. http://www.arsenal.com/player.asp?thisNav=first+team&plid=60084&clid=4421&cpid=703 Instead of admitting that he is a flop this season, you wont. Where is SirKay? |
| Re: Premiership's Worst Buys: Wright Phillips Tops The List by lordimpaq(m): 11:58am On May 07, 2006 |
he did not score any meaniful goal, see there are some players performin in other league but when they get to the premiership their stars just dim, e.g. morientes.(monaco) walter pandiani(deportivo) luque(deportivo), crespo(milan) and lot, they just can't cope and not to mention forlan jeffers just wore no. 9 jersey for nothing |
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