The story of the great global flood in which only Noah and his family survived is one of the most debated biblical stories ever written while i must admit that the story might not be 100% accurate and that it is incomplete the fact still remains the event occured. On this thread would try and explain what really happened and why God decreed it that way. I would be quoting from the book of genesis and the book of Enoch which is mysteiously missing from the canon of scriptures. As Enoch was very close to God and he is one of the three people recorded in the bible not to have died but taken up to God. Enjoy

The reasons why God sent the flood

            The Bible speaks of giants as the offspring of a plot by angels to inbreed with mankind.  This first implies that angels had a direct, ongoing relationship with humans as is referred to in Genesis 6:3 when Yhovah says he will end this close association. In Genesis, the flood is pronounced immediately after the giants are mentioned, although not directly referred to as a direct result of the phenomenon of the giants.  The verses following this brief mention of giants would seem to indicate that the giants and the flood were seemingly unrelated and are dealt with as such by the pulpit. 

            The early Catholic Church found it necessary to eliminate the book written by Enoch.The Book of Enoch goes into great detail about the plot by certain angels and that plot's direct relation to the flood.  What Enoch relates is a story of deceit, mutant beings out of control, cannibalism, and a decision by Yhovah to end the carnage perpetrated by these mutants which was leading to the decimation of life on Earth.   It also shows that though the physical bodies of these mutants were destroyed, their eternal spirits remained intact and are directly connected to the demons and evil spirits we have in the world today.

While you are at it, could you answer the following questions;

1)  How long did the flood last?

2)  What combination of animals were taken by Noah into the flood?

3)  How did carnivorous animals survive in the ark and immediately after the flood?

4)  For animals that have specilised diets (like the giant Pandas that only eats bamboos) did they come along into the ark with packets of bamboo?

5)  How did the giant sloth which is native to South America travel to the ark given that it barely moves a meter an hour?

6)  How do you explain the fact that some animals are unique to only some remote island?  Like the fact that there are no native placental mammals native to Australia.  How come pouched marsupials are native only to Australia?

AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Pastor Huxley how are you?? how have you been? Patience my brother, as i said the story might not be entirely accurate and there are a lot of facts missing, but i would try and answer the parts i have learnt about.

The Flood

The Church View:
The flood was caused by the corrupt actions of mankind.

The Bible View:
The flood was caused by the corrupt actions of angels.

The first eight verses of the sixth chapter of Genesis describe an incredible series of events that, when taken in their entirety, leave a gaping hole in the church’s view of mankind’s past. Unmentioned from the pulpit is mankind’s former close relationship with the Elohiym and the devastation of a terrible action by the angels. The circumstance that caused Yhovah such regret is a master key to understanding many of the enigmas of the Bible, human history, and much of what is known in our world as the paranormal.
The Flood of Noah is perhaps the best known of the Old Testament Bible stories, yet, the cause of the worst catastrophe in human history is veiled in mystery. The relationship between the Nephilim (called giants, mighty men, and men of renown) and the flood is not revealed from the pulpit. The relationship of the Nephilim to the devils of the New Testament is seldom considered.

Why did Yhovah decide to destroy all life?

The Genesis account of the beginning of worldwide devastation:

Genesis 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, 2 That the sons of God (angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. 3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. 5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. 6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart. 7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. 8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

The doctrinal line that explains the devastating decision Yhovah makes is that mankind simply achieved a level of consistent evil that caused its demise. Found in eight verses is a group of concepts that, considered individually, or as a whole, present a plethora of doubts about accepted doctrinal accuracy and completeness.

Mankind begins to be fruitful and multiply.

Angels are shown to be in very close contact with men.

Yhovah is shown to be in close contact with men.

Angels begin to freely mate with women.

Women give birth to a race of giants.

Yhovah decides to cease his close contact with men.

Evil becomes the central focus of mankind.

Yhovah regrets the creation of all life on Earth.

Yhovah decides to bring an end to human civilization.

Yhovah decides to eliminate all life on the planet.

Fortunately for mankind, only one man on the planet finds favor with Yhovah.

It doesn't get any closer to the edge than that. Without Noah, life as we know it, would never have occurred. Perhaps this is why there are hundreds of accounts of the flood worldwide, with hundreds of Noah figures to match. And why, in the face of overwhelming geological evidence that a flood did indeed occur, does science cling so tightly to shaky theoretical alternatives?

Breaking down the individual concepts and considering them in their relation to the whole will give a clearer perspective of the final impact on humanity.

Humanity Multiplies
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them.

This is as it should be. Prior to the end of the this age Man is told to be fruitful and multiply in the first chapter of Genesis:
Genesis 1:22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
Genesis 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Since this is apparently what mankind is commanded to do, then of course it, of itself, is not the cause of the evil which has caused Yhovah’s regret. There is no way to know the population figures but hundreds of cultures worldwide record the event. It certainly took all these cultures by surprise and most evidence of those cultures vanished in a watery quagmire. Considering the wealth of evidence that remains, there must have been an incredible explosion in human culture and diversity .

A Relationship with the Gods

That the sons of God (angels) saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Most ancient cultures speak of a close relationship with the gods. Here we will deal with the specific details recorded by Moses, but it should be remembered that there are many versions of man’s close ties to the gods by many authors worldwide. The similarities between these accounts give rise to a serious question. Was all this activity concentrated in one tiny geographical area? Logic and corroborating evidence would make this a ridiculous assumption.

The account in the Bible of the Family of man and his dispersal worldwide starts with his expulsion from the Garden of Eden. The concept of a human culture does not begin biblically until the mention of the acts of Cain in the fourth chapter of Genesis:

Genesis 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

The end of the fourth chapter gives us our only clue concerning this close relationship with the Elohiym and the angels.

Genesis 4: 26. And to Seth, to him also there was born a son; and he called his name Enos: then began men to call upon the name of the Lord.

Unfortunately, that is the extent of the Bible’s coverage of mankind’s history before the flood with only the genealogy from Adam to Noah to fill in the gaps. Cain builds a city, men begin a relationship with God, and then it’s over. But there is a source that provides enlightenment to this unknown age. It comes from the third generation of Adam, Cain’s firstborn, ^Enoch

A more accurate account of the events that led to the flood was recorded in the book of ENOCH, this book is mysteriously not included in the bible

I find it necessary to properly introduce enoch by quoting from the scripture as this would enable readers appreciate the authority of his book.

There is a source that sheds considerable light on the cause of mankind's demise and presents a scenario so unorthodox; it is no wonder the church rejected it. It is the Book of Enoch.

Enoch was so close to God, the Bible says God took him:
· Genesis 5: 24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.

Paul recalls his favor with God:
· Hebrews 11:15 By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

The book of Enoch is quoted in the Bible:
· Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints.

Why isn't his book in the Bible? The Book of Enoch was recognized centuries before Christ, it was accepted by early Christians, and early Christian literature contains many references to it. The book was an accepted part of the scriptures up to the middle of the third century when the church leadership decided to ban it during the Council of Laodicea. Along with 40 other books it was banned as a scriptural source and was lost for over a thousand years. It was not until the late 1700s that a copy surfaced.
The obvious reason for this mass book banning was that these books did not agree with the beliefs of the church leaders. During the same Council, this leadership declared the keeping of the Sabbath a sin. The simple reality was scripture did not determine what dogma was accepted; rather dogma determined what scripture was accepted. This may have occurred centuries ago, but the modern day church practices the same contradiction.

It is recorded that Enoch lived for 365 years, but that is a relative figure because apparently Yhovah took him on board and didn't bring him back. In Hebrews 11:5 the word translate is used 3 times: By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. The words from which "translate" is rendered mean" to transport". It is clear that he was physically transported and it is the amazing odyssey that Enoch records after, “God took him”, that reveals the true cause of early mankind’s demise. Enoch had a revelation given to him just as John received thousands of years later on the Isle of Patmos. Here, in brief, is what Enoch has to say about what caused such a radical action as a worldwide flood:

· The angels were in such close contact with mankind that they actually taught men previously unknown knowledge. This is a practical explanation about why there is no apparent evolution of early culture, just a sudden burst of knowledge with no evident progression of learning. It not only seems that our ancestors were taught advanced skills, but the records of many ancient cultures testify to that reality.

· Certain angels actually organized a plot to inbreed with human women and swore an evil oath to seal the devastating conspiracy. The ringleaders are named and the number of conspirators is given. Many ancient writings speak of such a relationship with divine or extraterrestrial beings.

· The offspring of this plot were giants. World anthropological, and historical documentation, as well as the biblical record, testify to the existence of giants throughout the ages.

· The giants apparently had appetites that matched their size. ^{These hybrid monsters ate all man could produce, and when man could not produce enough, they began to eat humans}. They also began to consume all they could acquire from nature, and when this ran out they turned on each other.

· The rampant destruction of the natural environment by the giant hybrids and the corruption of mankind caused the decision to flood the planet.

· When the flood killed the giants, their spirits separated from their bodies as spirit beings whose sole purpose is to torture and devastate man until the judgment day.

· The angels who perpetrated the invasive act are imprisoned, but the spirits of their illicit offspring are roaming the planet.

^{Enoch and the Flood}
A Liaison to Angels

After taking Enoch, God appointed him as liaison to the imprisoned angels that had perpetrated the corruption of, and inbreeding with mankind. This gave him direct knowledge of the cause and effect of this act and witness to the events that followed. Not only are the criminals named, but also the true nature of the devils recorded in the Bible is revealed. This is a revelation concealed from mankind by the actions of other men, a decision that keeps the most evil of forces hidden from view. Many of the strange events and entities witnessed in ancient and modern times remain unexplained without this knowledge.

Contained in this section are the verses of the Book of Enoch that relate to the Flood, the angels that caused this worldwide disaster, and the destructive spirits that now inhabit Earth. Though many ancient writings refer to a worldwide flood, none is more concise and descriptive of the root causes of this disaster than the writings of Enoch.

The Angels Plot Against Mankind
· Enoch 6:1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2 And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.' And Semjaza, who was their leader, said unto them: 'I fear ye will not 4 indeed agree to do this deed, and I alone shall have to pay the penalty of a great sin.' And they all answered him and said: 'Let us all swear an oath, and all bind ourselves by mutual imprecations 5 not to abandon this plan but to do this thing.' Then sware they all together and bound themselves 6 by mutual imprecations upon it. And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon, because they had sworn 7 and bound themselves by mutual imprecations upon it. And these are the names of their leaders: Samlazaz, their leader, Araklba, Rameel, Kokablel, Tamlel, Ramlel, Danel, Ezeqeel, Baraqijal, 8 Asael, Armaros, Batarel, Ananel, Zaq1el, Samsapeel, Satarel, Turel, Jomjael, Sariel. These are their chiefs of tens.

Unholy Cross breeding Begins
7:1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them,

An Education in Secret Arts Begins
7:1 , and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants,

Voracious, Giant, Man-eating, Cannibal Mutants Are Born
7:2 , And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.

Weapon Making and Metallurgy Are Taught
8:1 And Azazel taught men to make swords, and knives, and shields, and breastplates, and made known to them the metals of the earth and the art of working them, and bracelets, and ornaments, and the use of 1antimony,
1antimony, a trivalent and pentavalent metalloid element that is commonly metallic silvery white, crystalline, and brittle and that is used especially as a constituent of alloys and semiconductors

Cosmetics and Jewelry Are Taught
8:1, and the beautifying of the eyelids, and all kinds of costly stones, and all 2 colouring tinctures,

Society is Corrupted
8:2, And there arose much godlessness, and they committed fornication, and they 3 were led astray, and became corrupt in all their ways.

Sorcery, Astrology, and Astronomy
8:3, Semjaza taught enchantments, and root-cuttings, 'Armaros the resolving of enchantments, Baraqijal (taught) astrology, Kokabel the constellations, Ezeqeel the knowledge of the clouds, Araqiel the signs of the earth, Shamsiel the signs of the sun, and Sariel the course of the moon. And as men perished, they cried, and their cry went up to heaven . . .

The Corruption is Exposed
9:1 And then Michael, Uriel, Raphael, and Gabriel looked down from heaven and saw much blood being 2 shed upon the earth, and all lawlessness being wrought upon the earth. And they said one to another: 'The earth made without inhabitant cries the voice of their cryingst up to the gates of heaven. 3 And now to you, the holy ones of heaven, the souls of men make their suit, saying, "Bring our cause 4 before the Most High."' And they said to the Lord of the ages: 'Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the 5 ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! Thou hast made all things, and power over all things hast Thou: and all things are naked and open in Thy sight, and Thou seest all 6 things, and nothing can hide itself from Thee. Thou seest what Azazel hath done, who hath taught all unrighteousness on earth and revealed the eternal secrets which were (preserved) in heaven, which 7 men were striving to learn: And Semjaza, to whom Thou hast given authority to bear rule over his associates. And they have gone to the daughters of men upon the earth, and have slept with the 9 women, and have defiled themselves, and revealed to them all kinds of sins. And the women have 10 borne giants, and the whole earth has thereby been filled with blood and unrighteousness. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are 11 wrought on the earth. And Thou knowest all things before they come to pass, and Thou seest these things and Thou dost suffer them, and Thou dost not say to us what we are to do to them in regard to these.'

Noah Informed
10:1 Then said the Most High, the Holy and Great One spake, and sent Uriel to the son of Lamech,
2 and said to him: Go to Noah and tell him in my name "Hide thyself!" and reveal to him the end that is approaching: that the whole earth will be destroyed, and a deluge is about to come 3 upon the whole earth, and will destroy all that is on it. And now instruct him that he may escape 4 and his seed may be preserved for all the generations of the world.

Giants Become Evil Spirits
!5:1 And He answered and said to me, and I heard His voice: 'Fear not, Enoch, thou righteous 2 man and scribe of righteousness: approach hither and hear my voice. And go, say to the Watchers of heaven, who have sent thee to intercede for them: "You should intercede" for men, and not men 3 for you: Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children 4 of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? And though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die 5 and perish. Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget 6 children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. But you were formerly 7 spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. And therefore I have not appointed wives for you; for as for the spiritual ones of the heaven, in heaven is their dwelling. 8 And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon 9 the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; 10 they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. [As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] 11 And the spirits of the giants afflict, oppress, destroy, attack, do battle, and work destruction on the earth, and cause trouble: they take no food, but nevertheless 12 hunger and thirst, and cause offences. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them.

If you have taken time to read through all the previous posts, a lot would have been revealed to you which you may choose or choose not to believe but one thing is for sure it does correlate with the genesis version of the story the only difference is that it is a lot more detailed and explanatory than the genesis account. It also reveals the exact evil that happened on earth and why God chose to flood the whole earth. For those of you who couldn't follow the story well the reason was becos of the cross breeding ( this was mentioned also in genesis 6: 2) between women and heavenly beings which led to birth of giants who were said to be evil. Besides the human race genealogy had been polluted and deviated from the original sructure God designed for mankind. It was in eliminating and stopping this variant of human beings that developed from the cross breeding of humans with heavenly beings that God decided to flood the earth and thus stop another variant of humans (giants) from populating the earth.

I know a lot of people would find this a bitter pill to swallow, but then when i came across this topic i deed a google search on (Ancient human giants) i what i found provided conclusive evidence that there were indeed giants amongst us on earth as it was recorded in various human cultures. there are also evidence of there remains (skeletons) in some museums today.

@kunle
You seem to know your business of grasping at straws well indeed. No one asked you to quote all the religions start by answering huxley posed to you. At least they are not so technical to understand. When your done I have some more for you.
Btw I left a reply for you at the other thread about your assertions.

@KunleOshob
what are all this nonsense that you've posted here? do your assertions make sense to you. . . .  must you break your neck in trying to explain a fable and myth that was plagiarized from an ealier civilization?A little known but important piece of information about the Genesis flood is that the extremely similar Epic of Gilgamesh in the Sumerian legend predates Noah’s story by at least one thousand years in the written form and at least five hundred years for the setting. The similarities between the two tales are so remarkable that we cannot write them off in good conscience as mere coincidences. In the earlier flood legend, Utnapishtim receives instructions and exact dimensions on how to construct a large ship to avoid an imminent flood (as does Noah in Genesis 6:14-16), takes animals and his family aboard to preserve life on earth (as does Noah in Genesis 6:19-7:1), lands the ship on a mountain after the flood has stopped (as does Noah in Genesis 8:4), releases a dove and a raven from the ship in order to aid his search for dry land (as does Noah in Genesis 8:6-11), and burns a sacrifice after the flood for the gods who find its odor pleasing (as does Noah in Genesis 8:20-21). Because several additional minor parallels exist, I would encourage everyone to read Tablet XI of the short epic in its entirety in order to appreciate fully the similarities between the two legends. Since the Gilgamesh tale is the earlier version of the two, we can only surmise that the authors of Genesis copied the Epic of Gilgamesh or inadvertently patterned the story of Noah’s ark on an even more ancient flood legend that we have yet to discover.

      Records of flourishing civilizations in China, Egypt, Babylon, and Mesopotamia exist straight through the flood era of 2500-2000 BCE. This contingency creates a stack of obvious problems without planned solutions because the flood supposedly vanquished the inhabitants of these regions. If this was the case, why do we now possess their journals made before, during, and after this global deluge? The flood would have certainly destroyed these societal accounts if God were truly guilty of genocide. If people from each region somehow managed to survive and continue these records, why isn’t the cataclysmic flood mentioned in their accounts? In fact, no sort of catastrophe on this level exists anywhere in the written histories of any society during any era. On the other hand, records of ancient civilizations frequently mention several local floods. This is quite possibly the most compelling reason why many Christians have abandoned a global flood hypothesis in favor of a local one, a proposal rapidly gaining in popularity that has been debunk too. Had the authors known their descendants would one day be able to date these civilizations, the story most certainly would have been different from what we have today.

      Most people with a reasonable level of geographical education are aware of the existence of Mt. Everest, which has an apex well over five miles above sea level. In apparent contrast, the ancient Hebrews, as we discussed before, probably never ventured too far from their homeland and therefore knew of no such formation. If the textual description of the flood is assumed to be accurate, we know that this enormous mountain would have to be covered by fifteen cubits (about twenty-two feet) of water during the flood (Genesis 7:19-20). Had the authors been truly aware that there were mountains extending this far above sea level, they would have certainly altered the story again in order to bring the water requirement back to a somewhat more feasible level.

@kunle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(mythology)
There you go you need to read that.

KunleOshob while your praying to your imaginary God to give you the answers to Huxleys questions can you please explain to me how Noah managed to 4 million species of animals into his Ark?

manmustwac:

KunleOshob while your praying to your imaginary God to give you the answers to Huxleys questions can you please explain to me how Noah managed to 4 million species of animals into his Ark?

Those questions hard pass jamb questions ohh. . . kunleoshob can only run around them. . .

why do threads like this always attract the very people who regard the bible as a myth? I think its about time a moderator was chosen so that we can discuss issues that pertain to the bible in peace, without beind derailed.

Why are these people conspicously absent from islamic threads?

Its high time the mods (who are always hyperactive when it comes to muslim threads) help us here. Enough of losing important threads to the antics of a few idiots. If they want an athiest section where they can bash christianity please help them create one . . .

They ruin doctrinal christian threads, they mangle threads put up to seek personal prayers for family members, they ruin threads for solemn praise and worship.

Am i the only one losing patience with these fools?

KunleOshob, good thing you brought this issue up. I've been trying to make sense of the book of Enoch myself but to no avail mostly because no one else reads it and you cant get anyone to bounce ideas off.
I have some questions for you when u're done.

davidylan:

why do threads like this always attract the very people who regard the bible as a myth? I think its about time a moderator was chosen so that we can discuss issues that pertain to the bible in peace, without beind derailed.

Why are these people conspicously absent from islamic threads?

Its high time the mods (who are always hyperactive when it comes to muslim threads) help us here. Enough of losing important threads to the antics of a few idiots. If they want an athiest section where they can bash christianity please help them create one . . .

They ruin doctrinal christian threads, they mangle threads put up to seek personal prayers for family members, they ruin threads for solemn praise and worship.

Am i the only one losing patience with these fools?

The only fools and idiots are you bible thumping christains. . . when people tell you that they don't believe in your hebrew god you brand them as sons of the devil and consider them to be no good, which non of you christains have ever seen, have you ever seen the devil?. .i have been called names here in naija just because i came out and decleared my non belief in the hebrew god. . . .   when we scrutinize and ask questions to that which you assert as the univrsal truth you end up calling us fools and idiots. .  why are you asserting things that you can't prove and provide evidence for to be the universal thruth? universal thruth should have universal explanation and universal evidence. . . when you are caught flat footed you resort to name calling. . .  go smoke dry shit abeg. . . . . . are muslims the people that wrote the noah's ark myth? or are they the ones that wrote all the killings and lootings that were carried out by the hebrew god and his prophets in the bible? christains are attacking muslims on nairaland too. . . . so deal with it. . .  extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence simple. . . . . .   

KunleOshob go watch banned from the bible you will understand why the book of Enoch was not included in the final cannon. . . . . .

mazaje:

The only fools and idiots are you bible thumping christains. . . when people tell you that they don't believe in your hebrew god you brand them as sons of the devil and consider them to be no good, which non of you christains have ever seen, have you ever seen the devil?

This is a very silly statement. Who branded you a son of the devil on this thread or on the many that you people have gatecrashed and ruined? The thread on the Bisi girl, was it in anyway referencing you as an unbeliever? Why did you go there and ruin it?

The rest of your verbose comments i wont dignify with a response.

davidylan:

This is a very silly statement. Who branded you a son of the devil on this thread or on the many that you people have gatecrashed and ruined? The thread on the Bisi girl, was it in anyway referencing you as an unbeliever? Why did you go there and ruin it?

The rest of your verbose comments i wont dignify with a response.

I deleted my offensive post. . . . go and look it up. . . . christains all over naija brand people that do not believe in the hebrew god as sons of the devil. . . . and it extends to nairaland. . . so many people here have branded us as blind sons of the devil. . . . . go look it up. . . . . .

Mazaje,
   I know you're better than this.
I understand your anger towards people who've insulted you but you cannot go round the religion board pouring out your anger on other innocent christians/threads.
  If a thread is calling for christian responses/discussion, you don't have to go on it and disrupt it. There are many atheist-themed threads you can partake in or create your own, but please let a christian discussion be. huxleys initial post on the "Bisi" thread really annoyed me, that was below decent but that is typical of his behavior here on Nairaland. A man should learn when to speak and when to hold his tongue. Even though this is just an anonymous forum we must still try our best to be respectful of the people around us, even the people we don't like or agree with.

mazaje:

I deleted my offensive post. . . . go and look it up. . . . christains all over naija brand people that do not believe in the hebrew god as sons of the devil. . . . and it extends to nairaland. . . so many people here have branded us as blind sons of the devil. . . . . go look it up. . . . . .

Did this thread brand you as the son of the devil? That your ignorant neighbour calls you a devil for not following him to church gives you NO right to just up and ruin any thread that involves biblical doctrine.

This thread i suppose was specifically created to engender christian ideas on the flood. Its not an avenue for jobless individuals constantly drumming their godlessness down our throats.

You deleted your offensive posts a little too late, many who would have chosen to contribute are already turned off. If anyone calls you a devil go to his house and confront him, leave us alone.

@david
I don't really care what you call me these days anymore fool idiot whatever suits you.
Fyi Kunle created this thread because we were discussing the issue on some other thread and we didn't want to ruin it, then he invited me here.
You can go on with your name calling spree, (* hisses loudly*) look who says we need a moderator.

reminds of the debates of yesteryears when supposedly enlightened people used to debate about how many angels could dance on the point of a needle.

Chrisbenogor:

@david
I don't really care what you call me these days anymore fool idiot whatever suits you.
Fyi Kunle created this thread because we were discussing the issue on some other thread and we didn't want to ruin it, then he invited me here.
You can go on with your name calling spree, (* hisses loudly*) look who says we need a moderator.

Its not the first thread you've ruined bro. I just about lost patience with your "false innocence". Pretending to be seeking answers when in essence all you're about is mocking and railing.

This thread wasnt aimed at you . . . read the preamble. You're not christian, you've already labelled the bible a collection of fables . . . why are you here?

We have read nonsense from Mazaje talking about christians forcing religion on him, one insidous thing no one is talking about is the equally (if not more) virulent but silent manner atheists are now trying desperately to force their own godlessness down our throats.

Create your own thread/section and anyone who has energy can go answer your questions there. Allow other christians to enjoy their threads in peace just like you allow the muslims.

here is one for your mocking pleasure - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-170023.0.html#msg2787498

@david
That's a first not one word to label me.(maybe I missed it)
You see this is where you get it all wrong, first off please go to the thread about whether a man of God should re marry and read what happened before making these assertions, you will see where kunle said he will create it and then invited mazje and myself.
Dude its not by force to respect anyone opinion in fact you can shout that what you think I am saying is wrong, but you have got no respect for the person. After you finished bashing me on the thread I created about cain and abel I had a good conversation with pilgrim and even if we did not agree on some points we had a civil conversation, that is a feat you cannot achieve.

davidylan:

Did this thread brand you as the son of the devil? That your ignorant neighbour calls you a devil for not following him to church gives you NO right to just up and ruin any thread that involves biblical doctrine.

This thread i suppose was specifically created to engender christian ideas on the flood. Its not an avenue for jobless individuals constantly drumming their godlessness down our throats.

You deleted your offensive posts a little too late, many who would have chosen to contribute are already turned off. If anyone calls you a devil go to his house and confront him, leave us alone.

go and smoke dry shiit. . . . when you were disparaging allah and his prophet you didnt know that you were attacking some one else's belief abi. . . . stop claiming and hanging unto some stupid innocence. . .  you christains claim that your bible is the word of god and contains the ONLY truth. . .  we have every right to question that claim. . . stop whining like a baby and stand up to that which you assert as the ONLY truth. . . . .nonsense. . . . .

mazaje:

go and smoke dry shiit. . . . when you were disparaging allah and his prophet you didnt know that you were attacking some one else's belief abi. . . . stop claiming and hanging unto some stupid innocence. . .  you christains claim that your bible is the word of god and contains the ONLY truth. . .  we have every right to question that claim. . . stop whining like a baby and stand up to that which you assert as the ONLY truth. . . . .nonsense. . . . .

Classic.  Thank you.

Only wish he could a bit of advice from his own barbaric "holy" book.   Before you look at the sand in you neighbour's eyes make sure you remove the plank in yours.

Chrisbenogor:

After you finished bashing me on the thread I created about cain and abel I had a good conversation with pilgrim and even if we did not agree on some points we had a civil conversation, that is a feat you cannot achieve.

1. Stop crying, i didnt bash you on that thread. Merely told you off.
2. Depends on what you call a feat. Pilgrim may have all the patience in the universe to converse "civilly" with you but sadly i dont have any especially when i know full well the person involved isnt really seeking answers.
3. Christ didnt have patience with the pharisees either, He put them firmly in their place ditto for Paul.

mazaje:

go and smoke dry shiit. . . . when you were disparaging allah and his prophet you didnt know that you were attacking some one else's belief abi. . . . stop claiming and hanging unto some stupid innocence. . . you christains claim that your bible is the word of god and contains the ONLY truth. . . we have every right to question that claim. . . stop whining like a baby and stand up to that which you assert as the ONLY truth. . . . .nonsense. . . . .

We claim the bible as the word of God and as the ONLY TRUTH. No apologies for that believe . . . however you have the freedom to hold such as a myth.
You dont have the right to question such claims (that is bogus nonsense) . . . its just like you demanding you have a right to question my claim that i am Nigerian . . . it is none of your business. If you dont want to believe fine, no where are you forced to.

I will and do stand up for the gospel ONLY when it is wise to do so. I dont cast pearls before swine.

huxley:

Classic. Thank you.

Only wish he could a bit of advice from his own barbaric "holy" book. Before you look at the sand in you neighbour's eyes make sure you remove the plank in yours.

you all are a confusion to yourselves. I'm left wondering, why are you constantly posting about a barbaric book? Have you got nothing else of substance to read and do?

davidylan:

you all are a confusion to yourselves. I'm left wondering, why are you constantly posting about a barbaric book? Have you got nothing else of substance to read and do?

This world is made rotten thanks to religions and superstitious beliefs. I (and other rationalists) owe it to posterity to help free humanity from such delusions.