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Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Rgp92: 11:21pm On Nov 02, 2011
amor4ce:

If that is your conclusion where are your reasons and evidence.

I gave you my evidence, now whats is yours?
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by NwaIkenga(m): 1:34am On Nov 03, 2011
From the first link: "The evidence suggests that Cain and his father-in-law Enoch (Nok) lived in what is today northeastern Nigeria. Not surprisingly there are places named after these ruler in Nigeria: Kano and Nok."

amor4ce: If you think that the links you posted should be taken as "serious" anthropological research, then there's really not much left I can tell you.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by NwaIkenga(m): 1:39am On Nov 03, 2011
Rgp92: The "evidence" that he will present will be more far reaching comparisons of different names that have absolutely nothing to do with one anther and then attempt to use that as a basis for some type of relationship between groups of people separated by thousands of miles and years. In fact, we can play along with the game too:

Pseudo-Evidence:
The place called Sheba in the Bible is actually taken from Asaba. Therefore, she was an Igbo woman!
Before the Europeans came, Igbos worshiped a deity called Ala, who had a symbol which was a crescent moon. Therefore, the Igbos and the Arabians are the same people. Muhammad was also Igbo!
The Prophet Ezra was a shortened version of Eze Ora (King of the people)!

You see, that was easy! You should add on!
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by amor4ce(m): 11:41pm On Nov 03, 2011
Nwa-Ikenga:

From the first link: "The evidence suggests that Cain and his father-in-law Enoch (Nok) lived in what is today northeastern Nigeria. Not surprisingly there are places named after these ruler in Nigeria: Kano and Nok."

amor4ce: If you think that the links you posted should be taken as "serious" anthropological research, then there's really not much left I can tell you.

If you have nothing left to say, tat is up to you. Do you perhaps and instead have nothing right to say/something left to say/something right to say/nothing centre to say/something centre to say/nothing roundabout to say/something roundabout to say/nothing over to say/something over to say/nothing under to say/something under to say/nothing all over to say/something over to say?

I never mentioned that the links I posted should be taken as "serious" anthropological research.

I gave an example of the Ijebu and Itsekiri. Did that fall under pseudo-evidence?
What constitutes evidence and what makes evidence pseudo?
Is it not language similarities that have been used to lay claims to the town of Warri by different groups, and arguments by some Edo people about the person of Oduduwa?
Have you come across the study of (1) anthropological linguistics and (2)comparative linguistics?
Is Asaba Igbo?
Have you ever wondered how the concept of language families was introduced, and how they were studied and grouped?
Would you call the study of languages in the world and their families pseudo-evidence?
Would you say that those who study languages and their families engage in rubbish reasoning?
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by BlackLibya: 12:41am On Nov 04, 2011
Have you ever wondered how the concept of language families was introduced, and how they were studied and grouped?

The question becomes why the Igbo people only started to believe they were jewish AFTER colonization and conversion?

The Lemba people of southern Africa have always considered themselves Jews, so have the Beta Israel of Ethiopia. Igbos are not Jews, if you want to feel connected to an ancestral religion, then practice yours.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by amor4ce(m): 10:56pm On Nov 04, 2011
BlackLibya:

The question becomes why the Igbo people only started to believe they were jewish AFTER colonization and conversion?
They could start by providing records from their oral traditions wherein migration to this part of Nigeria was mentioned This would add weight to "Jewish connection", For instance, the Ijebu acknowledge that they migrated from the Sudan/Ethiopia axis.

Is it possible that the Igbo could be more related to the Bantu and their neighbours in southern Cameroun?
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by NwaIkenga(m): 4:59am On Nov 10, 2011
@amor4ce: If you never meant them to be taken as serious research, then why post them 

@BlackLibya
: The Lemba story was one that was created by the white European jews. According to their own traditions, they migrated from a place called Sana. It was the Euro-Jew that connected it to Isreal. And the so called Beta-Israel folks from Ethiopia have been demonstrated to be totally unrelated to the other "Jewish" groups
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by amor4ce(m): 1:14am On Nov 29, 2011
I didn't say they were not to be taken as serious research, neither did I say otherwise.

We can try this - is there any name similar to Nok/Enoch/Enosh/HanochNod in Igboland?
There is the name Anochie in Igbo which means replacer or to replace. Does the name have to do with royal descent? In what context is it used?

The Ashante have the word ano kyi (Ano Junior) which has been thought to have to do with a line of succession.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by amor4ce(m): 10:38pm On Nov 29, 2011
I got this from 234next.com in which was listed a Nigerian professor with Nok as surname:


Five academicians qualify for Nigerian National Order of Merit Award
Only five of the 90 nominees short listed for the 2010 and 2011 Nigerian National Order of Merit (NNOM) Awards qualified for the honours.


Prof. Oluwafeyisola Adegoke, the Chairman, Governing Board of the Nigerian National Merit Awards, disclosed this in Abuja on Tuesday at a news conference.

According to Adegoke, the nominees are Professors Andrew Nok, Isidore Okpewho, Ebiegberi Alagoa, Francis Idachaba and Ibok Etukudo.

``It gives me great pleasure on behalf of the members of the governing board of the NNMA to welcome you to another memorable celebration of the intellectual and creative achievements of Nigerians.
The rest of the story can be seen at http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/News/National/5748362-147/five_academicians_qualify_for_nigerian_national.csp
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by PAGAN9JA(m): 12:31am On Dec 04, 2011
not again. tongue
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by ak47mann(m): 12:34am On Dec 07, 2011
this is from a rabbi he is my friend just return from Nigeria and got some pix to share cool cool


Leadership conference in Port Harcourt Nigeria.

Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by ak47mann(m): 12:39am On Dec 07, 2011
Redeemed Israel Community of Nigeria Conference on Nnewi

Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by ak47mann(m): 12:42am On Dec 07, 2011
Synagogue in Aba

Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by namfav(m): 5:43pm On Dec 07, 2011
go to israel, bloody jews grin
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by tpia5: 6:02pm On Dec 07, 2011
Growing number of israeli igbos.

Growing number of arab igbos.

Am i the only who sees a faceoff in the future- another intraethnic war.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by ak47mann(m): 6:11pm On Dec 07, 2011
tpia@:

Growing number of israeli igbos.

Growing number of arab igbos.

Am i the only who sees a faceoff in the future- another intraethnic war.

bolded their is nothing like Arab igbos.
we have been practicing Judaism for thousands of yrs is nothing new,religious practice of igbo Jews is similar with the Jewish culture in Israel the evidence was there eg  circumcision eight days after the birth of a male child, observance of kosher dietary laws, separation of men and women during menstruation,

And igbos are not going to have any intraethnic war, this is what our fore father ave been practicing for thousand of yrs.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by BlackLibya: 10:31pm On Dec 07, 2011
we have been practicing Judaism for thousands of yrs is nothing new,religious practice of igbo Jews is similar with the Jewish culture in Israel the evidence was there eg  circumcision eight days after the birth of a male child, observance of kosher dietary laws, separation of men and women during menstruation,

how come the british commanders and missionaries made no mention of this in their writings? No anthropologists, nor arabs, nor even sierra leonians in Igboland made any mention of this at all 120 years ago.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by amor4ce(m): 10:54pm On Dec 07, 2011
In Igbo oral traditions, was any mention made of the Redeemer?
Can you prove that the similar customs were not adopted from your neighbours eg Edo?
How is it that your males don't prostrate when greeting elders as it was done in the House of Israel?
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by lagerwhenindoubt(m): 7:37pm On May 02, 2013
This is a real window of opportunity.. hmm hmm hmmm.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Donaldchika: 5:55pm On Jun 12, 2013
I feel strongly in my heart that igbos are the lost tribe of Gad.
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Angellami: 8:35pm On Dec 19, 2013
Actually igbos are descendants of jews am from ibo. I believe what bible said that at d later end all thé lost tribes of Israël wil come back to their country. Eri in anambra lga are descendants of jews and many others, so Eri which is in anambra is where most igbos come from, you.........................: can as wella say ' igbos are jews. Read genesis 46 :16. They are thé lost tribe of Israël, even they have common cultural arts language and others. So dont usé derog words thé thing is dat when jewish igbos will return to there country no one can stop thèm. Shalom !

Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by RedEboe(m): 8:17pm On Dec 21, 2013
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Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by onyedikachiyuda: 5:48pm On Oct 04, 2014
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY PEOPLE ARE DYING OF IGNORANCE (THEN CONDUCT YOUR RESEARCH).

HERE YOU SAY ALL SORT (NONSENSE) OF THINGS IN THE NAME OF COMMENT. IF ANYONE SAYS THAT THE NOW SO-CALLED JEWS ARE THE ORIGINAL INHABITANTS OF THE LAND THEN HE MUST BE LYING OR IGNORANT. THE FACT IS THAT THE TRUE HEBREW ISREALITES WERE NEVER WHITE-SKIN PEOPLE; THEY WERE BLACK LIKE THE AFRICANS.

READ ABOUT HAM AND SHEM!!
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Eyepencil: 11:54pm On May 27, 2015
Abagworo:
http://www.thenationonlineng.net/web2/articles/16793/1/Igbos-Jewish-origin/Page1.html

Genesis chapter 46 Vs. 16 state clearly the origin of the Igbo nation. Jacob was the father of Gad who was his eleventh son. And Eri the fifth son of Gad founded the Igbo nation. Gad had the following seven children, Zephon, Haggi, Shuni, Ezbon, Eri, Arodi and Areli.

In Anambra State, Aguata Local Government Area to be precise, a town called Ora-Eri was said to have hosted Eri and his group. On arrival, they came with the Hebrew symbol an artifact which was discovered by Professor Shaw in Igbo-Ukwu about 26 years ago. The age of that Hebrew symbol was put at 1800 years both in the surface and on the ground from the date of its discovery.
Spot on cool
Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Eyepencil: 11:54pm On May 27, 2015
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Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Eyepencil: 11:55pm On May 27, 2015
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Re: I’m Sure, Igbo Are Descendants Of The Jews -noam Katz, Israeli Envoy by Eyepencil: 11:56pm On May 27, 2015
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