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i will never love any man , who never slapped my face

if he dare not do this, he is not a man, i will never pay a glance at this kind of gentlemen

he may behave like a gentleman when in public, but at home, i need him to be a MAN, how can a man be a man , if he dare not slap my face?

i guess you are mentioning your husband's organ size.

"ORGAN is like a shoe. When it is under-size , be ready to drag it along through out life, and when oversize you wear be ready to feel the pains through out life"

your unborn baby should say thank you

1) she is worrying you may not marry her, which proves...

2)you have just done a great sex , she is overwhelmed, she is a afraid she does not match you, she is not sure whether she has done her job in the sex OK or not to you....

3)she feels humble to extreme and afraid to be deserted, so she pretends to be weak by crying, or she is not pretending but really feels sorry for her own bed skill.

4) her word in heart is "i have done my best,but my best is just a small hole, i am not sure that hole can fulfill the job, but he has done too great, i feel i am ahamed to be his partner"

give him a nice mouth job, every thing will be fine,

a nice mouth job can solve everything, trust me

i am sorry to point out that, putting such a thread here is expecting too much for the black race, who will be just yelling praise to god, without dialectic reasoning.

before you delve in positivism(seeing is believing),Immanuel kant(logic is only for human),Descartes(me is the only existence,but how comes it),and many other philosophers' works, you may find it hard to argue with me, or even to have any idea what i am talking about.

by the way, you have juggled 2 words, "enviroment change" and "intervening factor", go ahead, ditch more erudite compound words from dictionary, this will never help you to win this debate. for one side, no one understand these words , which are made by you, for the other side,empty words are meaningless in a philosophy debate.

human being are so afraid of SUPERNATURAL things, things without logic, if these things happen, and if these things are good things , people will ascribe them to be the feat of god, if these things are grotesque and horrible, people will deny to believe, they will even stand on the ATHEISTs' side to say "no, it has nothing to do with god, it is the science phenomenon which we yet can find out the reason of, or it is a TRICK DONE BY YOU"

by the way, the only way to vanquish me is to attack LOGIC

because, logic is wrong

logic is no more than a way , although it is the only way, we human beings are trying to understand the world.

just as i illuminated above, god living in 4 dimensional world, men in 3 dimensional world, ants in 2 dimensional world,and logic only existing in 3 dimensional world or below. men know the world by logic, men can understand ant's view by logic.

but men can never understand those things that they can not understand, which are not to be understood in the form of logic.

so in the 3 dimensional world , a lost and refound key is supernatural and illogic, but it possibly be logic in 4 dimensional world.

why you are angry and trying to convince me to your side? because i choose the word "CHEATING", which is a bad word in our earthly live, to describe god. do you think you will care that, one ant is angry with another because the former says "your antenna is stealing my smell"

Gracious007:
Nigeriasmack you have been hammering on logic ever since but yet your subsequent posts betrays logic; your logic is faulty and lopsided and you refusing to open your myopic mind is not helping matters.

You flooded the thread with inane posts all in a desperate bid to make amends for previous pointless posts but still I can't point out a single sense in your comments.

You say you searched a place the first time but didn't see what you are looking for and so searched again and found it. Pray tell, doesn't this post of yours bear a resemblance to the intervening factors I hinted at? Common sense should tell you that another person can search same place once and be successful due to the fact that the intervening factors would affect both differently. Your Op is flawed from the start and attempts at a debate are futile.

"doesn't this post of yours bear a resemblance to the intervening factors I hinted at?"

you are taking up your own gun firing at yourself

intervening factors? define it.

if there are really these factors, they are sent by god too.

for example, god made a joke on me , by blinding me eyes when i searched for the first time. and if it was you who were trying to help me to search when i standed by, successfully found it for the first time, it was because god did not make a joke on you.

no matter the chair sucked the key into its wooden texture, or my eyes got a sudden cataracts, they were both tricks done by god.

your comparison of my not finding and your finding, is just a proof that ,god is lying to ME

Still too extreme. If you aren't sure, then who kept the keys where they are before you started looking for them?
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as to this question, you should ask god.

you should ask him, why did you make me search for 2 times? and stupid god, you are asking trouble for yourself. because, if you allowed me to find my keys for the first time , i would not doubt you were cheating me.

if you believe in god, then , this was a mistake by god, and this was also a mistake god wished me to let go.

but if you do NOT believe in god, then , you may argue, "your eyes are too bad , you can not see it clearly for the first time"

Of course you can. But you cannot tell the definite place said item is. Even at that, don't you think banking on 100% certainty is a bit extreme and of the top of your head? You can't be too sure.
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1)of course i should be 100% sure that the keys were in the house, because of my logic.

2)if i could not even recourse to logic, how can i believe there is god, who created the world by logic, or wanted human to view the world , to understand the world by the way of logic.

3)i was not sure precisely where those keys were . i just knew they were in the house. am i clear to you?

Gracious007:
Nigeriasmack i don't mean to offend you but are you by any way_naijadeyhia?

you are just a quack theologist

hiding behind gothicly sententious words, just a hundrum sentence:"your eyes not good, no wonder you need to find twice!"

why not say it in simple and easy english? your low-brow thought needs no beautiful gramma to express.

Gracious007:
By possibilities, I meant intervening factors. Since the person who supposed dropped the keys in where it should be didn't eliminate elements that might interfere, something out of the ordinary is bound to occur. Get it?

i am not talking about how i could not find my keys,

i am talking about, how i found my key in a place i already checked 1 minute before.

of course , your enviromental power is so powerful that, you may enumerate tons of possibilities, such as, my eyes were bad, my keys just being at an agle not easy to be seen for the first time.......

if things turned out to be this mundane, i would not post any thread here.

Gracious007:
Is a human a perfect being?

Is our world stagnant? Answer these questions and then you would realise the absurdity smeared all over your posts. "God is cheating now" could be interpreted in another way as "environmental forces at play".

1)you keep saying human has flaw, will make mistakes

2)you never answer my question in the frontal way

3)if i found that bunch of keys after i rummaged my room for 3 times, i could still say, i was careless, i paid no attention to "changing enviroment"(although i have no idea what this means actually)

4)but the situation here was: i checked every nook of my room , and i would marked the place i have checked by a signal, so you can imagine how surprise i would be , after 2 minute for my second check , i found my keys in a marked place.

5) kindly explain how the enviroment changes made me could not find the keys

Gracious007:
Is a human a perfect being?

Is our world stagnant? Answer these questions and then you would realise the absurdity smeared all over your posts. "God is cheating now" could be interpreted in another way as "environmental forces at play".

is our world stagnant or not anything to do with my lost and refound key?

your point is, the wooden chair, on which there were a pile of clothes and my key , swallowed my key into the wood texture when i searched it for the first time, and the second time, it regurgitated it out.

i am not nigerian , let alone a magician , by help of a wooden chair.

Gracious007:
I am sorry but you haven't made any sense so far. Robots have no mind of their own as they only act the way they have been programmed to by the producer. Humans the world over accomplish incredible feats everyday as our intelligence keeps evolving. Nevertheless the constituents of the human body is constantly in motion interacating with its environment so I don't comprehend how you could believe we mustn't function different when we partake in an activity for a many times despite the fact that the world changeds second after second and we change along with the world. Your comments are out of context. Adding numerous irrelevant facts to the discourse only further expose your weak argument. Learn to own up when you are clearly wrong.

1)it is you who diverge the topic to discuss something between human and robot. i just humor you.

2)ok, explain this: what if i find my key under a pile of clothes which i have checked just 1 minute ago. my memory is so fresh, and you don't even need to ply logic to say "god is cheating now"

3)dont tell me i dont know how to check a pile of clothes, if i am that stupid, i am really flawed

Gracious007:
The simple explanation I can come up with is that you are human, and being human means you are very flawed. You are likely to respond differently to situations due to the fact that your overall make-up is not always constant. You ain't a robot, are you?

Read my previous comment again and you would get the point.

i am not talking about why i can not find my key for the first time, dont tell me i have a murky mind, and that is why i can not find it out in a precise place in a rummage.

i am talking about my second search, which is based on my first systematical search.

Gracious007:
The simple explanation I can come up with is that you are human, and being human means you are very flawed. You are likely to respond differently to situations due to the fact that your overall make-up is not always constant. You ain't a robot, are you?

Read my previous comment again and you would get the point.

1) i have reduced the case to so explicit, and you still have problem?

2) dont split hairs,

3) of course, i am a flawed human, but , as to my example of 100 boxes, can you explain? in the frontal way.

4)since you are diverging to another topic, about human and robot, i have something more to say here

5) just because human are more prone to make mistakes, human are forever the master of machine. all great thoughts, all great human contributions were/are coming from errors.

6)some smart scientist seemed to make a mistake, he observed that the light speed was not always 30000000km/second, and based on which his theory seemed wrong too. or this phenomenon can not be explained by logic? robot can never answer this, but man could, and that man's name was EINSTEIN, and from this flaw of his theory, he invented another more famous theory, the RELATIVITY

there is another fun theory , which is called "if you love god, never test him"

it is common that many religious people will pray god for giving them something they wish, this is dangerous, what if god fails to give you? which situation is quite normal.

if anybody can get a BMW by praying, this world will be a hell.

of course , these religious guys are NOT religious at all, they think: well, if god can fulfill my pray, it would be good, but if not, it is still ok, just a pray,free of charge, i can do anytime i want.

so, shift your position to that of god, what if a guy thinking in this repulsive way？ he should be the first one to go hell

the conclusion of this theory is : do not pray. or , if a religion supporting or encouraging praying, this religion could be a fake one

Gracious007:
By possibilities, I meant intervening factors. Since the person who supposed dropped the keys in where it should be didn't eliminate elements that might interfere, something out of the ordinary is bound to occur. Get it?

let us make it more simple

there are 100 boxes in front of me , i close my eyes, i throw my key into one of them , although i close my eyes, i trust logic, which tells me that, the key must be in one of these 100 boxes.

i open my eyes, i search each box, but none of them has my key!

i try again, i find the key in one of them

explain this!

Gracious007:
Of course you can. But you cannot tell the definite place said item is. Even at that, don't you think banking on 100% certainty is a bit extreme and of the top of your head? You can't be too sure.



Still too extreme. If you aren't sure, then who kept the keys where they are before you started looking for them?

before i really found the keys, i believe they were in the house, by the only thing i can rely on, my logic.

if logic could be wrong, then by what kind of rules god created men?

of couse, i 100% trusted logic, which told me that the keys should be in the house.

but i did not know where they were, maybe this was also a trick done by god, to make my mind murky, in order to do more tricks on me

so i searched my keys in the house, i was searching room by room, corner by corner, systematically.god had better reveal them for the first time when i searched. or else, he was making trouble for his own logic.

there is another fun theory, about slumber.

what is sleep? to upload our minds (containing daily events and thoughts) to god, and that tricky god is downloading some fake info into our minds.

what if yesterday, i was your boss, i was a 1 day boss to you, but after sleeping, god downloads fake info to all of us, and today, you are my boss, and in your memory, you "remenber" everyday before, you have always been my boss.

and all the other guys' memory , have been adjusted by god too, during the sleeping downloading.so all the other guys yesterday regard me to be your boss, and today, they totally have no idea of what really happened yesterday , and regard you to be my boss.

our memory could be just 24 hours

Gracious007:
First of all, the idea behind searching for a lost item is that you are sure where it should be cos you placed it there, not necessarily where it definitely shouldn't be if you happen to not find it where it ought to be because one can only be sure of his actions. That's how it works.

You can't tell what's responsible for that item changing its position, unless of course there was a precise pattern as to how you kept that item and that would explain why you would be suprised to recover it in a remote area in the surrounding given that possibilities are boundless.

But the last portion of your post quite explain everything.

by the way , you say "possibilities are boundless", but what possibilities?

now , i am not talking about memory, or how tricky my memory is.

i am matter of fact, let past be past, i am getting down to find the keys, which should be 100% in the house.

so let facts reveal everything

Gracious007:
First of all, the idea behind searching for a lost item is that you are sure where it should be cos you placed it there, not necessarily where it definitely shouldn't be if you happen to not find it where it ought to be because one can only be sure of his actions. That's how it works.

You can't tell what's responsible for that item changing its position, unless of course there was a precise pattern as to how you kept that item and that would explain why you would be suprised to recover it in a remote area in the surrounding given that, possibilities are boundless.

But the last portion of your post quite explains everything.

i can tell my keys are 100% in my house, because ,i am using logic,

i came home last night, i never went out,if without the keys, i could not open the door to come home.

so the keys must be in the room.

not because of your " you are sure where it should be cos you placed it there", i am totally not sure , no matter consciously or sub-counsciously

Police officers have no right to do that except there is a reasonable ground to do so'

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such a big hipocrite!

EXCEPT!!

who decides which circumstances should be "EXCEPT"?

i am police man , i think you are a rapist, so under such a harsh circunstance, of course i am authorized to check your privacy in the phone

Gracious007:
I am at a loss here.
I read the post from the beginning to the last word, but I can't place my hand on what Op is trying to communicate. He should come and clear the air.

do you have the experience of finding something? and at last you found it in a place where you were definitely sure it should not be there.

how can you explain this?

if you have not such experience. just keep in mind my experiment , and one day if you are searching something , try to search in a systematical way, one place after another, and see what will happen. you are forcing god to lie.

like, you are a computer programmer, you find out a bug in the game, which will cause some plots illogical , so you bungling youself to correct it by reprogramming , to stealthly put that bunch of keys to a place he assumes the computer game roles will not find out.

urheme:
And so what

that means, i love philosophy and science debate more than focus on RACISM.

1) it is said that chinese are firmy deciding to send their astronauts to the moon in the 2020s.

2) what if a chinese pee on the moon? and leaving some amino acid, which is the most crucial element of all living forms.

3) after 500 million years, that chinese pee could be highly evolving, even into a humanoid species, on the moon.

4)although the interspace of the out space is a deadly enviroment to amino acid, let alone any other higher living forms, still human have found amino acid in the fallen stones from the outer space on the earth, which could be activised by a more advanced technology.

5) ok, maybe you will argue by saying, how can amino acid lead to human being? well, if not, at least , it will bring out some flowers and insects,or some simple living form ,such as one cell bacteria. but how can a planet full of flowers and insects without human eventually? how can god only creat flowers ?

the great philosopher, KANT, in 17th century, argued that, can human being sense something beyond himself by his given organs? i mean , by his eyes, his nose, his ears, his mouth and tongue, and his skin, his BODY.

and nowadays, the question is the same, can human being know something which is destined to be unknown, such as afterdeath,by help of the so called high tech laboratory equipment?

the answer to these two questions is a big NO.

KANT said, suppose you are a frog , sitting in the bottom of a well, the size of well is a round one, so , the sky to you , is a round sky. if you are born with a yellow color glasses on your eyes, the whole world is yellow.

human are born ,essentially in a set way, so we can never jump out of our skin, to be another form of intelligence.

and god is no more than a low paid computer programmer in the 4 dimensional world,he is no better, just like , as a human being , you are not happier than an ant, at least ant can have a full belly, although an ant can never view the world in your way.