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diggz:
Conte with this hazard false 9 matter tire me......

exactly.

That false 9 formation is almost a white flag of surrender, especially because even when losing, Conte only brings on a striker in the 80th minute.

Morata came on today on the 89th minute.

Low key, i think Conte uses that formation only when he wants to piss off someone upstairs.

last 3 games hazard played as a false 9

bournemouth 3 chelsea 0

watford 4 chelsea 1

City 1 chelsea 0

Ibime:
A knockdown should have players close, otherwise na Salomon Rondon West Brom tinz.

Longballs from far also require some pace. You can play any and any ball to Drogba who will chase it and make contact, not Giroud. I've never seen Giroud effective in a counterattack, he won't start now. He does not have the mobility. Morata would be a better idea.

Add the fact you lose a worker Pedro, it could be counterproductive.

I'm not interested in gambling on some off-chance that Giroud could bring one goal. I'm only interested in not losing 3-0 and 4-0.

Long Air ball for Aerial duel doesn't even need mobility sef. We can see the worker pedro has literally added nothing to this game....again.

all you have to do as a coach is to instruct your target man to stay up front at all times, even when defending, and then aim those long balls at his head

Exactly what Brighton used to beat Arsenal today with a 35 year old target man up front.

Meanwhile another game another error.

Chris needs bench time

Ibime:
Knockdown to who? You think Giroud even has the legs to reach balls Hazard is getting close to? Giroud should tell us how he reached those balls when Bayern and co were smashing Arsenal 8-1 and so on.

how does this post even correlate to my post?

i say play Giroud up front and hit long balls to him to hold up, your saying Giroud doesnt have legs because Bayern beat them 8-1.

As if Alexis Sanchez did not start upfront in the 10-1 mauling last year. Maybe Sanchez too has 4 hands.


Target man football has nothing to do with pace. in fact most target men are pretty slow to begin with. The idea is that we're relying on their strength and aerial ability....not their speed.

nateevs:
You are not saying what you will do except not playing Hazard in his best position.


When you don't realise that Hazard cannot have a good game anyway against a very rapid Walker, with an inert midfield , then you will realise that you have not analysed properly.

And then you will see that Conte is making the best decision out of the numerous bad decisions that could be made.

i dont think Conte has made the best decision today. Hazard as a false 9 hasnt worked even in games that we expected to win, so already thats a minus for Conte.

we only have 3 outfield players above 6ft on the pitch today, playing Giroud or Morata could have given us something extra at set pieces too.

Anyway, make we dey see

Ibime:
Does Giroud have leg to cover the acres upfront. Giroud would be minus 1 so long your midfield can't hold the ball and bring it to him.

long ball to the target man to hold up or knock down can be effective to break the press.

you cant press the ball in the air.

False 9 works best in a possession heavy tactic, possesion we dont have.

airmark:
Nihilist, wilder won. Close.

guy i dey parole right now

Leyqute:
Yes o. Ignore the major signings (the first 7 of which equaled Mourinho's total signings in value) and focus on the minor ones who weren't worth a mention in the Manchester evening news.

Blind hausa digger.

Agbaya.

mugu.

My entire argument has been that only 3 of Pep's signings are for the first team. You are the one posting Kayode Olamrewaju and Pablo Mari signings as evidence that Pep bought the league...

Leyqute:
Don't be an ignoramus.

This is transfermkt.

Pep at City:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6775636_pep1_png13ef030c1e742686b10b8add7f216b0a

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6775637_pep2_pngccd13c77938ca744579c2fcb99f7a781

And Mourinho:

www.nairaland.com/attachments/6775638_mou_png0e88779c63923c208f11cddc06d10a05

Do the math. That's almost 200m more than Mou.

Apparently Hausa diggers haven't a clue Google exists.

i'm seeing Kayode Olarenwaju on the list. Pablo Mari.

Yes these signings are the reason Pep is 16 points clear.

Olodo.

Leyqute:
Since you chose to remove Laporte from City's squad, let's remove Bailly from United's, since all of us don't want to be reasonable. As if Laporte hasn't contributed to City at all this season.

Pep spent close to 200m more than Mourinho.

If United spent 200m more than City and are on the verge of winning the league you will be throwing tantrums and tearing out your hairs every day on Utd's thread.

dont be stüpid.

This season alone Bailly has played 4 times the number of league games as Laporte, and we're not even counting last season.

If you say Pep is spending to the title and your proof is a player that has literally played only 2 games out of 28, then theres a problem.

How has Pep spent 200m more than Jose? Where are your numbers?

Leyqute:
Lol.

Ah. Sorry unku Nihilist. Name City's starting XI and point out the ones Pep met on ground.

"Hell hath no fury like a Nihilist scorned"

Mourinho broke your heart and then signed for United, a club you detest. As if that wasn't enough, Lukaku, your beloved player then snubbed Chelsea to sign for United, an act which infuriated you, making your hatred of United burn hotter than the flames of Modor's Mount Doom.

E pele sir. Jehovah Jireh will heal you.

You should contact Pastors Skimple and ElRony, heard they are powerful preya warriors. Steer clear of Digz, na yahooyahoo pastor

Compare to Sterling, KDB, David Silva, Otamendi, Fernandinho, Aguero, Fabian Delph, who all have played 20+ league games this season, with the exception of Delph who has 15 apps

larride:
Uncle Nihilist, did Mou (who outspent everybody) in 04/05 season to win the league 'bought' the league or not?

You need to understand where your fellow manyoo brother is coming from.

Of course Jose Mourinho purchased the league in 04/05. Back then the only club constantly breaking Transfer records was Manyoo, and so a huge financial assault was launched on the football establishment of the time.

These days, more and more clubs have similar purchasing power. It's in front of us that Liverpool spent Lukaku money on a Centreback. Nowadays the big clubs are spending huge sums just to keep up, not even to get ahead.

How much has Pep spent compared to Mourinho since they joined their respective clubs?

i think Pep has spent maybe 60m more than Mourinho so far, but Laporte cost 57m.

Is Laporte the reason why City are 16 points clear of Manyoo? Obviously not. He's only played 2 games.

So if you remove Laporte from the board, Remove Mendy from the board, how much of Pep's money is actually talking on the pitch? Thats 100m+ wiped off his total immediately.

This means that in terms of Effective spend, Mourinho is clearly ahead, and yet look at the log table.

Money alone does not explain the staus quo today, because most of the players doing the work, Pep met them there. Infact, the chief pep apologist and fellow Apari had declared Aguero dead and buried...same Aguero...

Finally, lets look at the 3 signings that are constant starters for Pep - Ederson, Walker and Sane.

Move those 3 to Manutd, and only 2 even have a chance of starting, and only 1 has more than 50% chance of starting for that matter.

So i dont believe Pep has bought the league. Hes made some canny signings, but has mostly improved his team.

And you cant even say that about Mourinho.

Leyqute:
What about Ederson the GK? I'm sure he's a back up too.

Mugu who did you think i was talking about when i said this:

how is Pep 'buying the league' if only 3 of signings are regular starters?

That was literally the opening line of my post.


Are you saying Pep should not replace a keeper once described by a fellow manyoo fan like this?:

Leyqute:
I just saw the Everton-Mancity highlights and I must say, Bravo was very very poor. Dude should've saved a couple of the goals.

Ademola Lookman's finish is what delights me though. I pray he grows well and leads the Super Eagles lineup in the future.

If Pep replaces a player described as 'very very poor', what's the problem?

should he continue to play a 'very very poor' keeper just to satisfy the leyqutes of this world?

Are you an apoda?

Leyqute:
.

Pep outspent every bliiiping manager on planet earth to win the league this season. Fact.

Mourinho outspent every bliiiping manager to win the league in 04/05 for Chelsea. Fact.

Pep did not 'spend to win' the league. Like i pointed out to you earlier, the vast majority of Pep's spending has been on backup players, and only 3 of his signings have consistently been in the first 11 this season.

I think it was pretty obvious to all that Pep needed players in certain positions. This is a fellow Manyoo fan like you, pointing out the obvious here:

Leyqute:
My thoughts exactly. He knows he won't find it easy in England as there are many pacy wingers ready to punish him for his trademark overlapping.

I sha pity apari. He has lost most of his defenders and hasn't replaced them. Instead he's made signing a midfielder and a goalkeeper his priority.

Raumdeuter for your own good, send a letter to your Lord and Saviour Pep Guardiola to do the needful before the window closes. You go hear am o

Why is it deemed 'buying the league' if Pep was merely doing the needful?

stop trying to equate an egg to a garden egg, because they are both called egg. They are far from the same.

neezar:
Pogba was from our academy ahbeg

If not for Fergie,,,, he won't have gone 2 Juve

I'm sure Juve gave Manyoo 'academy discount'

Leyqute:
Yet, the truth stands out like a sore thumb.

Walker- backup
Ederson- backup
Sane- backup

If you're going to post stats, make it comprehensive.


What happened with Mou in his first stint with Chelsea is happening again with Pep and City.

As a coaxh, you will be a lot more comfortable if you have' backups'. Jesus got injured, Sane was there to smooth things over. Sane got injured and Bernardo Silva slotted right into his position with ease. And then there's Sterling and others ready for duty if called on.

Pep has the best squad and money bought it for him.

I am not a fan of Mou and he's United's manager right now. That doesn't mean I won't say things as they are.

Fact is Mou 'bought' the league then with Abramovich. Pep is doing the same with Arab money at the moment.

I don't expect you to get that as a Chelsea fan, afterall you guys bought your first league title.

how is Pep 'buying the league' if only 3 of signings are regular starters?

Mendy has played only 4 games this season
Aymeric Laporte only 2.

Bravo has only played 1 half of league football.

Danilo 10 games, Gundogan 8, Bernado Silva 10.

Compare to Sterling, KDB, David Silva, Otamendi, Fernandinho, Aguero, Fabian Delph, who all have played 20+ league games this season, with the exception of Delph who has 15 apps.

You can immediately see that the core of the team that pep is using to wreak havoc are players he met on ground.

Mourinho on the other hand broke the world transfer record on Pogba. That transaction alone should tell you who was attempting to buy the league.

He went to bring an almost 40 year old man with no resale value and put him 300k a week. He repeated the trick the next season with sanchez but this time DOUBLED the wages to 600k. Blew another 75m on Lukaku. Another 40m on Matic. How much was Bailly again? I've not even mentioned Linjollof.

Dude you have no point like broken pencil, or a trafficator with a blown bulb.

park well and shift make we see road.

0gbeniLeyqute:
This sleejdot guy will be pulling out statistics anyhow to suit his biased narrative.

You're forcing stats about managers' 100 games down our throats without considering the amount they spent, the type of players they met on ground as well as the state of the squad they met on ground.


If someone else says a certain Portuguese talker is a more prolific manager than a certain bald gesticulator and list out their trophies you will bring out your calculators and tell everyone one started coaching before the other.

Aren't you sickened by the stench of your own hypocrisy?

i wish we could time travel back to 2003/04/05

Everything you say about Pep, they were saying about Chelsea and Mourinho.

The difference was that there was only 1 dominant club to contend with then, and only 1 challenger. Now there are 3 dominant clubs and 3 challengers.

back then, talk was about a top 4. Not top 6 like today.

Check your Archives. Even the greatest manager in your history came out to complain about Chelsea spending those days.

As far as im concerned, Pep has shown what hes about in this league. its not about how much he's spent - Many of the players bought are not even regular starters.

Laporte - backup
Danilo - backup
Gundogan - Backup
Stones- Backup
Jesus - Rotation
Bernado Silva - Backup
Mendy - Injured.
Bravo - Backup

For the most part, the players Pep is using to beat all comers are players he met there. so even the spending argument is a bit redundant.

The style with which Pep has obliterated everybody in his path is literally ridiculous. Just look at Arsenal yesterday for example - chopping another 3 goals from Pep for the third time this season.

You cant say the same for mourinho. in fact, check out what Manyoo fans had to say about your gaffer.

Leyqute:
We might not like Mourinho or his defensive masterclasses but we will have to endure him till his contract runs out, unless someone better becomes available.

Leyqute:
I'm not a fan of Mourinho either

Leyqute:
Apart from not trusting his players Mourinho is sucking all the creativity from them. Lukaku who used to be sharp in front of goal becomes confused when through on goal. Today we had about 2 chances which would've resulted in a goal only if the player had kicked the ball a fraction of a second earlier.

This is what happens when you think slowly.

this one is my favourite:

Leyqute:
Look at Mourinho giving credit to West Bromwich as if they are Real Madrid.

All these fans seem to be in the same boat as Raumdeuter. They're passionate manyoo fans just like you.

lalaboi:
lol. .


Morata will come good for us. . . Morata over an yeye names that have been mentioned here who are not doing any better than him . . .

Airmark, Uncle lala said i should coman call you...

https://mobile.twitter.com/The_Paris_Angel/status/969524777911246849?s=08




They need pour petrol and hang tire for this guy body

Omo which shop Henry dey buy these his sharp suits Tori Olorun

God upgrade my life abeg...

lordfalcao:
Nihilist that bernando Silva can be a salah if he plays in front of goal regularly

I think their styles are different though

Sane in my opinion is closer to Salah in style of play than Silva

sleekdot:
This is trolling imagine taking out Aguero for Yaya Toure

At least Pep has a heart.

Leyqute:
Nah. I was referring to the three goals when I said this:

Nope. Arsenal hadn't even scored the third when you started the conversation.

Leyqute:
Thing is City weren't even trying. Seemed they came to the Emirates ready to settle for a draw and ARsenal just decided to hand them the 3 points.

2 chances. 2 goals. Odiegwu

This was the post I responded to.

Sane passed the ball to Silva after dribbling through that maze of Arsenal players. And yes, he was allowed. I know Sane is a dribbler but do you see him waltzing through players like that every match day?

You either don't watch a lot of city or play fantasy football. probably both, for you to ask this question.

Anyway, to each his own bro.

Let me watch the game.

does aubameyang know how to play ball sef?

chai ozil

Aubameyang could have had a hattrick in this game ya know


How can one team have Welbeck, the French Welbeck, and the Gabonese Welbeck on the Roster ffs?

Honestly, it's like watching Graduating set play against Jss1 new boys

This Ederson na weyrey o