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Ibime:
After all your yarns, you go take style dey change mouth. I thought you just said Sterling is another SWP, now you can't decide if Oscar is better than SWP.


See as mouth dey change? Na small small. Better position yourself well to make a full backtrack. And trust me, you will backtrack, just like you did on Torres, Mata, Mikel and Ramires. No be matter of time?

At season start you told us Oscar is one of the top 5 Under-23 players in the world, now you can't say for certain if he's better than Sterling.


As with every debate, the passing of time brings all truth to light. At season start when I said Sterling is better than Oscar, most people jumped on me to criticise. . .they couldn't believe I would say şuch a thing. Oya make time pass. . . today, most of those people will not consider that a crazy statement.

But no, pride must make Nihilist form stronghead. He must argue the matter. But just incase, he will put disclaimer that "I am not saying Oscar is better than Sterling" cos it's obvious that as the season progresses, he finds himself increasingly on the wrong side of the argument.

Abi you no know your mind? Wayo man. I know my own mind o. Sterling is better than Oscar 100%. No need for disclaimer.


#NihilistShowYourCertificate

Again jumping from pillar to post.

You made the assertion that Sterling was a better number 10 than Oscar....I only showed this to be the ranting of a drunk ijaw fisherman.

And backtrack ke? The same way you backtracked over all your FC Beast comments? Abegi!

And what am I backtracking over? The fact that Oscar has beaten Sterling in every reasonable stat as a number 10 this season? or the fact that you need deliverance from the spirit of apollo?

Etcetera is an ediot.

According to section 318(1) of the constitution,

"School Certificate or its equivalent" means:

(a) a Secondary School Certificate or its equivalent, or Grade II Teacher’s Certificate, the City and Guilds Certificate; or

(b) education up to Secondary School Certificate level; or

(c) Primary Six School Leaving Certificate or its equivalent and -

(i) service in the public or private sector in the Federation in any capacity acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for a minimum of ten years, and

(ii) attendance at courses and training in such institutions as may be acceptable to the Independent National Electoral Commission for periods totalling up to a minimum of one year, and

(iii) the ability to read, write, understand and communicate in the English language to the satisfaction of the Independent National Electoral Commission, and

(d) any other qualification acceptable by the Independent National Electoral Commission;

i.e He doesn't even NEED the WAEC certificate they're shouting about.

Case closed.

Still this charade continues

Gwoza and Baga are being passed backwards and forwards between the Army and Boko Haram.

With all the killings that happen each time the towns are 'recaptured', I don't think that they're any civilians left in those zones sef.

Let NA and BH continue playing musical chairs with empty towns...na them know...

The funny thing is that through out this discussion, I have never once said once said that Oscar is better than Sterling.

They produce at a similar rate and trying to distinguish who is better is like splitting hairs.

Ibime just wants to assert that Sterling is better unchallenged, and without having any proof or evidence to back it up.

Ibime:
I just dey humour you Nihilist.

Just in the last few hours, you've been pulling statistics out your àss in a classic case of a ninja with little head for numbers trying to feel smart.

You started with quoting no of tackles which means nothing e.g. Oscar made 1.7 tackles per game whilst Zouma only made 1.2. WTF would someone do with şuch data.

Then you tell us Oscar has more passes and passing accuracy. Of course Xabi Alonso is supposed to have better passing stats than Hazard. One is a central midfielder, the other is a winger/forward who is more interested in dribbles and crosses.

Idime the dimwitted one.

The reason why all of this is going over your head is simply because your arguments are inconsistent.

The major premise of your argument was that Sterling was a better number 10 than Oscar, and I have constantly proven that to be a fallacy.

When we looked at production in the league Oscar came up trumps over Sterling in key areas of distribution, goalscoring, and assisting

When we look at production in all competitions Oscar again came up trumps(8 goals 8 assists) over Sterling(8goals 5 assists) despite Oscar playing several hundred minutes LESS than Sterling.


Then you jumped to Oscar's failings as the reason He failed to boss the game against City yesterday. I had to remind you that in the 1st leg of that game this season, Chelsea also failed to boss city about, posting similar possesion stats(41%) despite Fabregas playing and Oscar's absence from the pitch.
Quoting Oscar's defensive stat was simply to point out what should be visible to even stevie wonder...Oscar had been tasked with serious defensive duties in a team that parked the bus.

Then you tell us Oscar has more goals and assists. Yes, one more goal in the league, but less goals and assists in all competitions. Oscar should even double Sterlings productivity seeing that he plays for a better team.

Not only is this a lie, you have also seized another opportunity to expose your dimness to the world. Why hasn't Hazard doubled his production now that he is playing with better team mates? After all by this time last year he already had 12 goals and 5 assists? Abi are you too daft to realize that tactics have changed and that we now play with both a targetman and playmaker...neither of which Oscar is?

You see why I can't argue stats with you, especially since that day you showed us you can't do simple proportional reasoning?

Quoting all these stats is either a show of stupidity, busybody or a ninja trying to feel intelligent. I'm not sure which one is worrying you.

If you continue thís asinine comparison of statistics, I will have reason to question your university certificate.

#NihilistShowYourCertificate

When confounded with facts, you must always resort to type talking about ancient history.

If we start digging up your old posts, na laugh we go dey laugh till next year.

I remember when people used to come look for you on this thread after each game to laugh as another one of your okpas yarns was shown to be foolish.

Focus on the current. Right now.

Is Sterling better than Oscar? Yes? Show us proof.

Idime from Idimu.

Ibime:
Ninjas with shaky education love quoting stats to make themselves feel intelligent.

Here's a simple fact - Sterling this season has 8 goals, Oscar has 7. One plays for a midtable team whilst the other plays for a top team that score goals left, right and centre.

There is no point telling us Oscar is the third or 4th top scorer in Chelsea. His position on the pitch in a team scoring this many goals should be seeing him on 12 goals + 10 assists by now.

Instead all we're hearing every game on this thread is "Oscar is a fool, Oscar na mumu, Oscar no sabi pass, Oscar is pissing me off".

Mr Nihilist, I can't be arguing Oscar vs Sterling with you. It's an insult. I might as well argue Ronaldo vs Willian. Anybody with an iota of footie intelligence knows who is better.

You go even go dey quote any website wey go tell you say Oscar had better rating and şuch and şuch statistics. I proved my intellligence in the 4 walls of a school mate. I no fit argue foolishness with you.

Who saw Oscar in League Cup clash? We all saw Sterling. If you like go quote any stats to tell us Oscar performed better in that clash, when we all know he was a nonentity, whilst Jose was scrambling all sort of tactics from the coaching manual to nullify Sterling. Sterling even made Liverpool look like Chelsea whilst even Hazard and co were looking like Liverpool players.

We see Sterling every game. Oscar na 'period'. . . we only see him once a month. He will wait till we're playing Burnley or Swansea with Siggy and Carrol as their only midfielders to shine.

Check your calendar. It's almost time for Oscar to shine again. Since Swansea, he disappeared against Liverpool twice, Bradford and Man City. Aston Villa next, maybe his period would be due.

When you get exposed, you start referring to megedefegede

Sterling played in the Liverpool team that scored 101 league goals last season and only assisted 5 of them. By your own logic your candidate has carried F9.

You're right that arguing with me on this topic is an insult. I have provided solid evidence that Oscar has defeated Sterling in every ramification. Arguing with a brick wall would be less tedious. Imagine Ibime asking us to disregard Whoscored but trust his judgement

And the story of Sterling causing us problems with his pace is not new. Salah did exactly the same thing 2 years ago, only to be discovered to be a conduit pipe.

Pace and legover does not equal super ability otherwise Victor Moses should win the Ballon D'or...Wright-Phillips was the original Sterling and how did he turn out?

You are falling for the same trick british media have been pulling since 1784.

Long story short

Oscar has more league goals
more assists
more passes
higher pass accuracy

Yet Ibime is looking at Black and calling it dark purple.

Ibime:
Sterling has never had a better season than Oscar yet he's having a better season this year, and last year Oscar was nowhere to be seen in Young Player of the year nominees while Sterling was celebrated. Some ninjas should quit footie and become comedians.

How is Sterling having a better season? Oscar has more goals and assists despite playing around 300 minutes less than the so called 'mover and shaker'?

Now, what do you have to say about a no10 who plays virtually as a striker (cos I never see him in the midfield) and has only 7 goals and 5 assists in a team that have scored close to 80 goals this season?

Apart from Costa, Hazard, and Oscar(In that Order), no other Chelsea player has scored more than 3 league goals,so what are you talking about? Oscar also has the second highest number of league assists after Fabregas.

In fact, if we break it down even further, only Costa(17goals 2 assists) and Fabregas(15 assists 2 Goals) have directly contributed to goal scoring than Oscar(6goals 7 assists)

If we list the best players from the League Cup semifinal, Sterling will be no1 while Oscar will not make the top 15.

Another characteristic gaffe. Oscar match rating for the Liverpool game was 7.7.....Sterling was 7.2
http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/905470/Live

You can't compare ninjas who carry their team with ninja like Oscar who gets carried by his teammates. Mr weakest link. If he was in a Liverpool team going through crisis, you'll see him counting beans on the bench behind Lallana and Markovic.

If Oscar was at Liverpool, he would be probably be the one at number 9, with Sterling playing behind him as he is the more clinical goalscorer.

In Oscars 3 years at Chelsea, nobody can ever point to a period where Oscar played well when the team was playing poorly. He's the ultimate passenger - a boat that can only be lifted by a rising tide. Sterling on the other hand is the outstanding player for his team whilst they're in crisis.

Stop believing the hype. All sterling does is run around and throw legover. His final ball is often quite poor and his shooting is dismal.
Sterling himself admitted only last week that he needs to work on his composure in front of goal.
Yes, I agree Oscar needs to work on his passing....but even at that, he still boasts better pass completion rates(83.7%) than Sterling(81.1%).
Need I mention that Oscar plays more passes(52.7 per game) than Sterling(31.3 per game)?

How won't Sterling shine in a team of mediocres? 32 year old Lambert and washed-up Balotelli na competition? Abi na old man Gerrard or Joe Allen wan bench am?

Meanwhile Oscar relegated Mata to the bench, and is a 1st team member of a squad that boasts of some of the biggest names in world football.

Thunder fire who say Oscar is better than Sterling.

May thunder fire your blokos.

You better see pastor chris for deliverance from the spirit of apollo

Ibime:
I no even call anybody name, see as the ninja came running.

His poor footie knowledge was exposed the moment he made that argument and he's spending the rest of the season writing paragraphs to explain his argument. Imagine comparing the 'mover and shaker' of one team with the weakest link in another team. A mover and shaker that had Chelsea on tenterhooks over 2 legs recently while Oscar was his usual 'least influential' man on the pitch.

But what else would you expect from a ninja who was happy with Ramires and Mikel as Chelsea midfield two. Abeg wey the rugby thread? We need to send some people there.

I repeat - Thunder fire who say Oscar is better than Sterling. No long arguments.

My friend sharrap.

Sterling has never had a better season than Oscar.

Even this season where Sterling has played more minutes and in a more advanced position, Oscar has still put him to shame.

You need vicin, yeast, and Pastor Chris to save your apollo ravaged eyes

I dont understand this article at all

Ibime:
See wetin Sterling dey play here against West Ham. Turning Winston Reid into a dummy.

Thunder fire who say that brainless Oscar is better than this kid.

Abegi!

Oscar was scoring against Germany in the WC Semis while Sterling was at home scratching his ballsack.

Sterling is currently Liverpools number 9 while Oscar plays 10, and Oscar still beats him hands down ...and while playing around 300 minutes less too!

Oscar has 6 goals and 7 assists to his name in the league, while Sterling only has 5 and 5

The day Sterling scores this type of goal in his life, he would go and sacrifice 2 elephants to the ghost of bob marley

https://i.imgur.com/hAqJtlv.gif

Ibime the thunder that will fire you is currently at the gym, please hold the line.

TY Danjuma is richer than these eediots combined.

If money is power, TY Danjuma has millions of power.

So these threats are just hilarious.

Ibime:
Don't blame me ninja for Chelsea fans criticising Oscar on thís thread.

The criticisms have been flowing long before Ibime mentioned Oscar today.

He should do his talking on the pitch. I am not the one who claimed at season start that Oscar is in the top 3 Under-23 players in the world. An assertion that would make the person who said it cringe today.

And don't give us büllshit statistics about tackles. One player makes 3 tackles a game, another makes 2, another makes 1. What are we supposed to read into şuch light numbers? Some of us went to school you know.

David Silva had the two Fernandos behind him and the agricultural Milner and Navas beside him, yet he put his foot on the ball and controlled the game. What was Oscar doing? Making 3 tackles according to you?

So you did honestly not know that City would attack and Jose would park the bus?

Oya explain what happened first leg when Fab played and Oscar did not.

CFCfan:
With 43% ball possession, this is the first league game in which Chelsea were out-possessed.

Ibime needs to read this.

In a game where we ceded possession to defend deep and narrow, the nigga is looking for a playmaker.

Chelsea's average possession over the season is 56%

Yet when we played City first leg, same scoreline, it was 41% posession....and Oscar didn't even touch the pitch that day, while playmaker Fabregas played.


Ibime need Vicin and Yeast. The apollo virus is strong in him.

Ibime:
And if he can't playmake, what's he doing in that position?

Defend from front ke, defend from front ni! Ninjas like Mo Diame can defend from the front, so what makes Oscar special?

Nigga with a football IQ of 50 and the pass of a ràpist.

What point exactly are you going to make?

That Oscar wasn't bossing in a game we didn't need to win?

Or did you honestly expect Jose to send the boys out to play the same way we played against Swansea?

The fact that Oscar attempted more tackles than Ivanovic, Zouma, and John Terry tells you all you need to know about how Jose set the team up tonight

Ibime go and buy eyedrop abeg.

Ibime:
Hazard is a winger who relies on his midfield getting the ball out wide to him to get in the game. Besides, he laid on the assist.

Now what is Oscar's excuse? Better yet, when has he ever taken control of a game in midfield with that his football IQ of 50. He's waiting to play Swansea again when all their midfielders are injured so he can shine again.

Negro please.

Did Oscar tell you that he was a playmaker? You might as well blame Matic and Ramires for not controlling the game too. Afterall Fabregas controls the game from the same deep position they play.

You suffer from jaundice and apollo if you dont realize that Oscar's main task today was to defend from the front.

nateevs:
Zouma has been awesome.

I swear to God

Cahill to man mark silva

Ramires and Matic need to swap.

Silva's movement all game has been too good for the brazilian

CFCfan:
Right on cue... The NBC commentator has just said Hazard has been quiet

Thank God that the apollo epidemic on Nairaland hasn't gone global.

Tval:
Has anyone seen Oscar?

That's an interesting question.

Some of us watching the game on Sky would have heard a similar question being asked by the commentators....about Hazard.

Let's not forget that we are the ones who have anything to lose. City know this hence their relentless attacking...and our relentless defending

Only God knows what Courtois did there...

Kompany is very useless it has to be said...

He actually pulled his foot back to allow that easy tap in.

Hunh!!!!!!!!

CFCfan:
Amazing stat! Is it in the league or in all competitions?

All competitions

Hazard has forced 24 yellow cards from his opponents this season

24!!!

Hazard is a real bad man from early.

Zouma is a beast!!!

Seems like Cahill has lost his place.

Anyway Jose should just join Matic and Silva in holy matrimony today.

No Toure to push forward or create from deep.

Noah13:
I gotta say the thing with QPR not picking up a point in eleven away games at this point in the season is definitely shocking

Is it? Redknapp is a useless manager who has been relying on individual brilliance to save his arse since 1784. Without any exceptional players like Bale to mask his deficiencies, he always shows himself to be the Torres of the managerial world. That's why he's a relegation specialist.

Dahdemola though will tell you that Redknapp is a better manager than Big Sam and I believe A40 will cosign that.

DJ abeg give me....



Oops sorry wrong thread

Im watching the Middlesborough-Brentford game...and I don't think Bamford and Omeruo will ever be good enough to play for the 1st team

ritchboy se jade lat'ewon