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Omo Seun should fix this his pos website jor

alonso smh

why can't hazard shoot that ball ffs?

Choi offside

I still prefer Chris to this Cahill sha

see Cahill ffs

Ibime:
I think Afrodoc2 has blown this out the water by showing evidence that Fergie won 7 league titles before ever topping the net spend chart.

I am 35 years on this earth this year and landed UK in 1996/97 season and met all those players I quoted on ground plus had been watching football many years before. Also used to visit these shores before I relocated so though I may not have first hand experience, I have some experience plus met that era of players fully. When Amokachi was transferred for example, I knew the price in 1994 so if you tell me Roy Keanes transfer was outrageous 12 months earlier, I can give you better perspective.

At least you have shifted tact slightly from comparing a poor EPL in the early 90s to a Serie A in its heyday.

Pointing out Amokachi transfer a year later is completely irrelevant because a year is a long time in football.

Like I pointed out earlier, Ferguson even broke the club transfer record twice in a single window, so I'm not sure what benefit is to be gained from pointing out am Amokachi transfer a year later...especially when in the exact year You're talking about, the same Ferguson spent double the Keane Fee on Andy Cole....Another record signing!

Like I pointed out to the good doctor, the only difference between Pep and PDP is the fact that Pep is not managing in an era of total dominance like PDP.

I showed the example of the Mirror' s EPL team of the 90s and only 4 clubs were represented. And that's an entire decade. 6 of those players played under Ferguson


If you do a team of the 2010s and the team would be more diverse.

Ferguson had the best squad in that era. if he had five 6/10 players, everybody else was fielding 3/10s.

There wasn't even a top 4 in the 90s. Just Manyoo. I've said several that I supported Leicester city in the 90s. My first ever game was Leceister Newcastle at Filbert street in January 99...The stadium itself is now a block of flats opposite Welford road where Leiceiter tigers play. So me sef don dey follow ball for a while.

So for Ferguson to have such a solid base, and still be breaking transfer records, I don't see how that's different to Pep who is having to compete with 5 other clubs with similar spending resources and base team quality.

PDP = PEP. QED.

We are through to the FA Cup final already.

There's no way we won't give this Southampton at least 3.

Leyqute:
You shouldn't have entered the argument at all. Because what you typed up there is pure drivel and it is seriously competing with the poppycock usually spewed by Dayo and his Pep fanboys.

The argument was Cantona isn't relatively expensive in those days as Walker is today. He's more like a Sallah than a Walker. But you somehow wore Dayo's skin and went on an epistle only to prove nothing in the end. Even if you "flip" the leagues, the fact still stands- Cantona wasn't the most expensive transfer that year.

The sheep that associates with dogs shall eat sh.it.

I actually pointed out that Cantona was the 10th most expensive...not the most expensive.

I'm not bothering to go into mathematics because like joeace2020 pointed out, there is no formula for working out how much a club say the want for their players.

However, saying that Cantona was signed for relative peanuts is a lie. The word 'relative' already qualifies such a statement for analysis in comparison to some other entity.

Was cantona signed for peanuts relative to other British transfers at the time? If it's the 10th most expensive of over 200 EPL transfers that season, then surely it's not peanuts

Otherwise, Kyle Walker who is the 10th most expensive epl tramsfer of this season must also be peanuts.

That's just simple deductive reasoning not empirical evidence ffs

sinizia:
It shows you Fergie has done it with or without cash.

Guy pep did it in la masia too.

Elrony leave me o.

Haba why you just hang for my neck like this ffs?

sinizia:
How many British and World record did he break at Aberdeen?

By cashless I mean Aberdeen wasn't rich or gave Fergie money to outspend his rivals before he destroyed the Celtic-Rangers hegemony.

Guy wetin concern me with Aberdeen na?

afrodoc2:
Nobody has come up with the season Ferguson spent more than other EPL teams in the 90s. From 1992 to 2001 almost a decade can some one list the years Ferguson dominated the transfer market? We have 2 years out of 2 for Pep.

The story has changed from "Ferguson outspent other teams most of those seasons to win all those titles" to "no he already had the best team so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

You can't have it both ways, it is either he outspent everybody to win the titles or he built great teams so he didn't have to outspend everybody.

Choose one side, in the immortal words of Skimpledawg, "YOU CAN'T EAT YOU L AND HAVE IT".

my own argument was that.

1. He already had the best team

And

2. On top of that continued to break Club, British and World Record especially in the 90s.

http://www.manutd.com/en/News-And-Features/Features/2016/Aug/manchester-united-record-signings-in-premier-league-era.aspx


Of the 8 times Ferguson broke the spending record on that list above, 7 of those signings were made between 93 and 2002.

PDP = PEP easily.

Ibime:
And Andre Grey moved for exactly the same price (£18m) as Mario Lemina so my mathematical extrapolation was 100% correct when I said the below:



Nihilist, hold this L

Nahhh na you get the L bro. Hold am make I reach bus stop sharp sharp.

sinizia:
This is not true.
Ferguson didn't even start his career at United, and while at Aberdeen, Fergie's total spend and netspend is not up to that of Pep after adjustment for inflation, during Pep's years at Barca, where he started his first major coaching stint.

Fergie has thrived in cashless system and in bountiful system. Do you know even Fergie bought one of his players at Aberdeen with his own cash? That's to tell you the magic Fergie performed even without so much cash.

Guy how can someone break British and World record multiple times despite already having the best team in the league, and you say he didn't spend?

Cashless system? what's that? You mean PDP was shopping with a credit card?

Ibime:
There is a difference between having experience of that era and reading about it later.

Your twisted perspective comes from viewing Cantona transfer through the lens of todays desperation where a desperate club might pay £200m for Neymar (which makes £50m for Kyle Walker look relatively cheap) . . . and lead you to compare Cantona transfer to Kyle Walker.

You are even comparing worldwide to equate Cantona to Walker which is nonsense. In 1992 Lentini, Vialli and Papin were sogned for upwards of 10m in Serie A. Intermilan also bought players in that price range. And you are busy comparing 1.8m for Cantona to that. You would have to compute about 30 transfers made in Serie A first before you start to think of British transfers. So no, Cantona was no Kyle Walker. He was more like Mario Lemina. That should give you some perspective first and foremost.

Then if you need better perspective, consider within Britain that Chelsea paid 3m for Robert Fleck, Arsenal paid the same 3m for Martin Keown, Leeds 3m for Rocastle, Man City 3m for Terry Phelan, Villa 3m for Dean Saunders, Blackburn 2m for Stuart Ripley, even 2m for phucking Kevin Gallacher. . . . you will see that you have goofed strongly comparing Cantona transfer to Kyle Walker. That was a peanut sum for that level of player and was a giveaway from Leeds who wanted Cantona off their books due to his attitude.

There is difference between real life experience and Wikipedia extrapolations and assumptions. Don't goof like the erudite trying to do Mathematics ontop football. Those who were around that era know where to place Cantona, it was a middling signing for peanuts and cannot make the top 30 worldwide signings of that year.

All you need to know about Roy Keane transfer fee of £3.75m is that Daniel Amokachi moved for not too dissimilar amount 12 months later. British transfer market has always been a conservative one where transfer prices move up by a couple of grand each year in the early 1990s. Roy Keane fee will not enter top 50 worldwide transfers to that date and was not dissimilar to what other EPL clubs were paying at the time.

Oga you are the one that is goofing and doing stronghead. As at 1991 English football was on par with Eridivisie today

Infact as at 1991, English clubs had just been allowed back into UCL after being banned for 6 good years from Europe.

Italian football was the EPL of the time. That's what people watched locally and in Europe. In fact, Sky just did a documentary last week about how the Italian football shows of the early to mid 90s were the first TV shows to broadcast football to many people in the UK

A lot of English people IN England watched Juventus and A.C.Milan on TV before they ever got to watch an English league match.

So of course, Italian transfers were more expensive. They had the TV money!

Flip it today, and show me Italian clubs outside Juve and Milan making transfers in the same market as ordinary West Ham today.

So that excuse has fallen flat on it's face.

say you too old, I give you 36 years on this earth, and given the TV restrictions of the time and and lack of internet, Thunder will fire you if you try to claim you followed EPL goings ons in 1991/1992.

Na the same internet resources we dey use nigga, so no dey try form historian on publicly available knowledge.


EPL was a new and poor league in 1991/1992 and Fergusom was immediately one of its biggest spenders.

Cantona deal was the 10th biggest deal then, and Roy Keane was a British Transfer record ffs. Nobody in England had ever spent that much on a footballer, not even the queen.

Guy hold this L for me abeg. I dey come sharp sharp.

afrodoc2:
Furthermore Pep spent more than all his rivals his first 2 seasons, whereas Fergie did not outspend all other clubs for almost a decade.

It is very illogical and ridiculous to compare those Fergie seasons to what Pep is doing now.

Again why would Ferguson need to spend heavily in just two seasons when the best players in the EPL for an entire decade were already on his payroll?


for example, this is the Mirrors EPL team of the 90s.

6 of the players played for PDP and he desperately tried to sign Shearer too.

of the remaining players in this pic. 3 played for Arsenal. 1 for Blackburn/Newcastle. 1 for Chelsea

No other team is represented.

And all those players, Ferguson signed all of them. Every single one.

So you already had the best team in the league as at January 1st 2000, and then in 2001 Ferguson was back at it again breaking club, British and World transfer records

PDP = PEP.

No doubt.

Ibime:
No mind that clown. I just dey read his half-baked analogies.

Fergie would only break the bank for few first teamers. Fergie teams always contained the Solskjaers, Ronny Johnsens, David Mays, Roy Keanes, Park Ji Sung, Schmeichel, Vidic, Evra, Rafael, Fabio, Sheringham, Denis Irwin, Cantona etc who he bought for relative peanuts. Ocassionally he would the break the bank for Veron, Ruud, Rio, RVP etc. . . but he would only make one big signing per season usually.

Them want compare to Fraudiola than will sign 5 or 6 blockbusters per year, but gets disgraced when not afforded the opportunity like last season.

relative peanuts.

Cantona cost Ferguson 1.8m or so that year. That was the 10th most expensive transfer of the season. That's like saying Kyle Walker was signed for relative peanuts.

Roy Keane that is also listed as a relative peanuts was signed by Ferguson for a British Transfer record. Which means that no other player in the history of the UK had ever cost that much.

relative peanuts

Teddy Sherringham was the 8th most expensive transfer in the league when Ferguson signed him on a 20k per week contract for 3 years. He was 31.

I could go on and on.


I don't think you did your research before posting this, cos this is a massive gaffe.

The other obvious problem aside the 'relative peanuts' misstep is, you haven't considered how many other clubs in the league even had a starting eleven that could boast at least 4 of the names you casually mentioned there.

How many Solkjaer were knocking about in the league? Fück it, how many Ji sung parks?

PDP was the first PEP.. Easily.

what kind of stüpid line up is this Wenger putting out like this sef?

elrony:
Na God go bless our guys for yesterday !

Now our adversaries are in turmoil running from pillar to post

you know how we do in London


Call us Migos cos we do it for the Culture.

raumdeuter:
That's why I always say many posters here struggle with logic.

It's like your dad(Ferguson) saying as a 40yr old man he was able to take care of a family of 6 with 5k monthly salary in 1990, so you should be able to do the same now with 10k a month in a family of 6 in 2018

Egbon I weak.

As if Roy Keane was not the original Pogba, and Sheringham was not the original Ibrahimovich.

Scummies are just vexed that the latest big spenders in town are from their own town...and not them.

The cheek of fans of a club like Manyoo that broke transfer record twice in one window sef...

afrodoc2:
That best team he was adding to was built from young talent, he didn't have to win tranfer market to develop that same best team he was adding to.

He did it at Aberdeen, carrying young players to topple the Rangers/Celtic hegemony and finally rod Real Madrid and Bayern Munich in the Cup Winners Cup.

Put some respek on his name, and swallow your 10yrs of Ls in peace.

PDP had the best team of built from youngsters.

And was constantly breaking British and world transfer records to improve it.

PEP had the best team of youngsters(la masia or purchased)

And was constantly breaking transfer record to improve it.

Chelsea had to rescue the league from these evil mancunians on several occasions. Next season, we'll have to cape up and rescue the league again.

PDP = PEP

afrodoc2:
His logic is not sound. He has tied himself in a tortuous knot of his own pseudopods, the flagrant amoeba.

Now let us bury this Fergie misconception once and for all.

Fergie won the EPL 7 times in 9 seasons from 1992 to 2001 AND NEVER ONCE TOPPED the Total spending chart.

The first time Fergie topped the total spending charts in the EPL was in 2001 after he had already won 7 league titles, 3 FA Cups and 1 champions league title.

For those who don't have A1 in Further Mathematics. Throughout the 90s when Fergie was truly dominating the EPL with 7 EPL titles, 3 FA cups, and also won 1 champions league title he never was the top spender in the EPL in any season

Why do you need to top spending chart when you already have the best team in the league?

All you have to do is keep adding a new superstar every year .

By that 2001 that You're talking about, Ferguson had already broken the British transfer record at least twice, and I think maybe even the world record for a defender sef...and that's before Rio Ferdinand.

Na Ferguson dey set transfer record those days. N.a. him go still come break the record, on top of already having the best team on the island.

PDP was the original PEP.

Also I think Eruditor's logic is sound.

We must never forget that Ferguson was breaking British and World transfer records upandan until Roman came to save the EPL from the clutches of the Scottish devil.

Ferguson even broke transfer record twice in the same window on at least one occasion.

The mathematics of the equivalent value is just an irrelevant distraction that Scummies are using to deflect from the simple fact that PDP was the original PEP.

I can never understand how a non-united fan can call that red nosed agbero 'Fergie'

That's a term of endearment ffs.

call him by his names - Ferguson, Sir Rednose, Ojoro Master, and PDP.

But Fergie? hell no.

only God knows the number of Oloshos that were consumed whole by the red half of Manchester last night

Pogba and Mourinho alone for don carry four each.

pamcode:
I can't believe he benched Milvilojevic for Grob.

gross had an assist today. but they gave the goal to owen goal

Roland17:
Honestly Lana, you no dey disappoint.

As inn....

the guy gif game na level 99

BushWickBill:
Childish little boy
Eat your words.
I have nothing to say to you

You have been making a mockery of yourself embarrassing yourself with silly predictions and premature erections.

Na to abuse me as face saving measure.

Please take your rants and save the frustration for your wife. Leave me in peace

I was minding my own business. You quoted me to chat shït. After getting bänged, you turn Shakespeare writing neatly paragraphed poetry of more shìt.

Brudda I pray a high quality thunder strikes your crusty àss wherever you are right now.

maga.

BushWickBill:
Just look at this garrulous nitwit rambling with all his drivel.

Just look at this nonsense.

if an eembecile like yourself cannot tell the difference between a preference and a prediction, then that's your problem not mine...

Your team just took a W, and You're still here pursuing a personal L. Are the 2 in your moniker not enough?

Fück outta here bro...

I cannot believe that Pep managed to rescue defeat from the jaws of victory.


Pogba delivered the most epic clap back football has ever seen.

Wowzers.

Kudos to Mourinho for turning this around.