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Red card? God abeg

Set piece always

patrickmuf:
Let's get to playing good football, winning games and hopefully trophies before you start thinking of life after Amorim. A step at a time.

Agreed. He might become the second Ferguson.

Leyqute:
4 straight losses.

I saw their match. They lacked intensity, and didn’t know what to do in some crucial moments. We didn’t only take Amorim, we took his supporting cast too, including their analytics coach.

They must be swearing for United.

I am more worried about Utd post Amorim. Let’s say he leaves us in 3-5 years from now, are we going to start from scratch or what? See the team he left behind. It does not make sense to me.

Itsrm:
Two truths can exist. The players are bad. Which of them will start for Arsenal, City or Liverpool?

Besides, if they were doing well under the previous system, ETH would not have been sacked.

I think Amorim stays till the end of the season at the very least except you guys end in a relegation battle which is unlikely.

Wrong. When a team is not performing, the players are deemed really bad. Fact is we signed these players from other clubs in the last 2 years bar some like Rashford, Bruno. We had an overhaul just recently and we are calling for another one in January plus next summer, no be juju be that? Chelsea did plenty overhauls but nothing changed until Enzo came in. Jury still out on him though.

afrodoc2:
The fans actually wanted a full sale to Sheikh Jassim. Full sale to INEOS was second.

Partial sale to INEOS with the Glazers’ leprous fingers still in the club was NOT what the fans wanted.

Well, a full sale won’t happen as it means they leave or maintain a minority stake. The owners will decide when to exit. Everything football is now in someone else’s hands. That should be okay no?

Glazers wey get sense, gave the fans what they wanted and are now watching from afar. If things don’t pick up anytime soon, they will be back at the driving seat. I guess that’s why Ineos is also kind of under pressure. Man Utd is a complex entity!

TrebleChamp:
The bolded is a stackable offence if true 😡

Let’s hope for the best sha. Be like say Ineos sef na one chance.

Makes sense to have the CEO and Sporting director aligned or on the same page regarding some key decisions else, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. It happens everywhere and everytime, management hires this wiz kid from a competitor but it doesn’t work out because of some reasons.

afrodoc2:
That is what i heard. Only nitrogen can confirm. Meanwhile INEOS fraud watch continues. Let us see how they will handle this issue.

Lol. Confirm kwa? People are saying clash of personalities is the issue. Plus, heard he wanted Southgate but the CEO and others agreed to hire Amorim.

Itsrm:
It all makes sense now. A better passer would have found Ugarte or Maino regardless of the way Forest set up.

The bolded is a no brainer. Everyone agrees apart from Amorim who is still protecting them in his pressers. Won't be long before he cries out.

Not like the players are bad either, some key ones can’t play in the current system. We won’t see much until he gets his type of players. Hopefully, we manage to win some games before January when the window opens. Else, he might be gone soon, as the games we have in the next 2-3 weeks na die. Also, when the window opens, we hopefully get him at least 3 players to help the team understand the system.

eph12:
Why should he stop or switch what's working? Like you said he got top 3 and won some cups, why should he switch back to his style?

So, it’s not anyone’s fault that he got the sack. The reasonable thing is usually to go back to your methods after you get the right resources.

We still have time sha. I thought we were going to salvage something off this season, but it’s not looking like it. Let’s hope it all works out.

larride:
Which position did he meet the team? No be 15?

True. But we got him to improve our position na, not to keep us in the wilderness for long.

Bjteensdes24:
The last manager that was sacked did same thing by not playing his style after getting his players and still lost which got him sacked. Instead of supporting this new one sticking to his, they want him to go the same way tweaking for these same players so we can be back to square one again.

Why did he not switch after getting his players? I think the mistake he made was not switching back to his style after signing his players. His flexibility gave us top 3 or so, but he got too comfortable.

odizeey:
You are over criticising.
Allow people time. You can't just expect winnings from the get go Baba.

Alright.

larride:
Sack him before the end of the season? 😂

You think it’s not possible? I hope we don’t get there, but if we are 15th or 16th after the city game, no be wahala be that?

odizeey:
Which strength these players get?

No be to their strength ETH play them?

Bros. Because you criticised ETH when he lost does not mean you must do it when Amorin is losing. That doesn't mean you are a hypocrite or anything.

Allow him do what he wants. When it's time to shout Amorin out, everybody go know.

This is not Amorim out. You guys are not getting my point. It’s fine!

Lana1:
Nitrogen and his upside down football takes. He believes the players are not good enough but he also believes we dont need to buy new players. The manager should instead be made to perform magic with those same players.

Wrong. I am saying the players are not good enough for what Amorim wants to do. Should we continue to force the system on them and keep losing until we find ourself in relegation zone, or try to manage them to stay afloat until we buy his players for him?

We need to get points to at least make top 10. In January, he will get 3-5 players, hopefully it’s a spine for him to start implementing whatever style he wants to implement, and then we build gradually from there.

Do you want us to relegate?

larride:
So he shouldn't use 3-4-3 that he understand, he should go and use 4-3-3 that he has not used before, when was the last time these players play 4-3-3 sef.

Thankfully, you are not one of those running this club, we would've been in deeper shit.

Just go get your AmorimOut placard ready for whenever we lose.

I am not AmorimOut, I like him. I hope he succeeds.

Lana1:
There's nothing special about the epl. Pep has never deviated from his 4-3-3. Klopp used the same 4-3-3 with high press the entire time he was in the league. Conte came in as a new manager and won 13 straight games straight with 3-5-2.

You're always pointing fingers at the managers when 90% of the problem has always been the players

How many top teams use 3-4-3 today? How many used it in the past and continued with it? Conte is a defensive manager. Reason he succeeded with it. Tell me other teams that are using or used the formation.

eph12:
What will 433 achieve for us? Is that not the formation ETH played or was it 451? I could have sworn we have used 433 recently and it still ended in tears. I think Forest scored 3 from 3 shots on target and we all saw how the goals came about. How will 433 stop those goals we conceded?

Okay. I have heard you. Let’s enjoy the process. As long as we get out of this wilderness. What I know though is it is very important to play to the strengths of the current players until we get him his players. Amorim seems to be a good coach, but tbh, I see us sacking him before end of the season. I hope I am wrong, but the losses are gradually piling up.

Lana1:
I like how Amorim has started. And I like how he has used 20 different ways to call this team shît in his interviews. No hiding place for these players. They are all going to get exposed

We are going to suffer twice. He sticks with it, and we end up worse until he gets 700m for his players, and then the gamble on him or the new players does not turn out well. We would have lost on many sides.

Lana1:
Na everybody be coach now.... How does ine even slowly integrate a new formation if they dont play that formation? He either plays 3-4-3 or he doesn't. There's no in between

It can’t be one style or nothing in the EPL, especially when he’s not Pep.

larride:
Do you even watch our games in details because if you do, you wont be talking like this as if we only play a fixed 3-4-3. There are plenty of times during our games that the back 3 turn into 4, Dalot most times play as an inverted wingback and so on.

Maybe you should tell us the formation you want the manager to use to get the best of these players.

We only did this in one game. I think it was during the Europa game. At this time, I just need a simple 4-3-3 and then he can change it gradually as he gets his players. Everton did not bother to come at us, reason we won the game easily. Every damn team won’t repeat Everton’s mistakes because they won’t/don’t see us as a top team. The Everton game took us back to when small teams respected us.

larride:
Abi now, he should ditch the system he has been using all through his coaching so that he can use a supposed system that he doesn't know that got the last manager sacked.

Man utd fan math.

No, more like he should take it slowly and integrate his system gradually. If he can only do 3-4-3, then we got the wrong manager. Flexibility is key in the EPL.

iamoyindamola:
He fvcked up
He shouldn't hit the ground running like that, knowing the kind of players he has
RVN was playing well and winning with same set, he should have slowly integrate his tactics although his template shows he knows what he's doing

This is the point. He is not PeP or Klopp that can stick with their style and still make top 4 or top 6. Interestingly, Pep had to adapt his game until he had his full squad. At this rate, we go too suffer.

larride:
How many of he big teams has beaten Nottingham Forest this season?

Didn't Liverpool only loss of the season against this same team?

Are you saying this to defend the result? Do you think we can dispatch Crystal Palace with this play?

Oasis007:
We must face the reality whether we like it or not. When RR was wailing over bunch of dólts we paraded as players, we didn’t listen - only for ZeroHag to add more dólts as well as replaced some dólts with new set of dólts.

These dólts can't dribble even a cone. They can't shield ball, run like professional players, pass and connect professionally on the pitch except hoping on God to get them lucky wins.

Amorim ain't gonna back down, I like his stubbornness and apparently ain't gonna give in to the fuckin dólts. We know the season is gone, no need to feel emotional cos of the pre-season matches.

Lol, he will be sacked in a jiffy. We literarily overhauled the team under ETH only to be back to the start. We can’t keep shouting overhaul, clean up etc everytime. Amorim should start doing the work, we don’t need Amad as a wing back, he needs to stop the tinkering, and start having the players in the right positions. Na these things got ETH sacked.

Altern8tor:
How can God help devil's.... Not possible na
😁😁😁

Well, God allowed/helped the devil to create his own kingdom.

Kobbie, Garnacho, De ligt, Bruno, etc are struggling with the system. How do we expect them to perform? They won’t. We need to be really really selective when buying our next set of players, plus Amorim must get it right else he’ll be sacked and the new players will be useless under another manager with a completely different system.

I am now questioning Sir Jim and co sef. We should be hiring based on what we want the team to play.

Players are bad, but not for them to be struggling against small teams. God help us!