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jfkenny:
@noeloge82 nice pic. Can I see the full pics of ur cage..

See the cage and birds no space to get a better view

jfkenny:
So I bought weight scale today, adjusted to 0kg after screwing and placing the weight pan.. The biggest weight was 4.8 and 4.9...some are 3kg, 3.4, 3.5 as well as 3.9kgs.. I will upload pics when network permits me...

That's a very good results
Dream of ur Xmas returns

luvcarz:
Good day, sir, my Broiler's are ready for sales.
AGE: 13weeks
SIZE: Super heavy now( I wil update as soon as I measure them, majority of them are above 4kg).
LOCATION: University of Ibadan 2nd gate. Ibadan.
Call/WhatsApp : 08117640001.

Congrats even from their size u will know they are heavy

AdlatWorld:
Mr. Noel and emmaachile I really appreciate ur quick response.May you continue to be prosperous
In all your endeavour. Thanks.I will chat with u privately.

Anytime

EMMAACHILE:
He is saying the mix must be in the right dosage or else it would not work.
There is a 200, 500 and 1000 dose containers.

The question is ur administration how many birds do u have

AdlatWorld:
Pease, am a new entrant.
I intend starting with cockerel and brioler.
My question are;
1.can I breed d two together?
2.will there medication be the same?
3. In your analysis in page 1 u said day 1 to 5, u said antibiotics & vitamins will I dilute the two together?
4.In the guide book given to me in BOA FEEDS, broiler medication timetable is different from that of cockerel (4 cockerel, day 1-5 ndv lasota & in another column day 1-7 vitamins & antibiotics)
Its really confusing me. Please help me with details analysis of d two from day 1.
Thanks in advance
Continue with d good work. Ur guide motivated me in planning to venture into dis biz though I'm into I.T.
God bless U

Anytime ur confused just chat me on 08135348909
See medications on page 22

AdlatWorld:
D explanation is not clear sir

Which part is confusing

GidiPrince:
That DiCox is a cocci wiper! Expensive but effective. Can it be used as a preventive measure too? Only used it when I heard terrible cocci case and got result the second day.

Yea its good for routine check the same company also produces center Cipro which is excellent with CRD

jfkenny:
That's it. I will soon get a weight measure to know sup, I believe some will weigh up to 3. Something kg..

Good and they will still gain more weight before xmas

jfkenny:
I didnt leave Bitterleaf and scent leaf sir.. U wont understand my case very well, but later I will upload the amount I will upload the amount i spent on drugs..

K No problem I get where ur coming from

EMMAACHILE:
Coccidiosis known as the malaria of Poultry is easy and hard to treat at the same time.
Routine treatment of coccidiosis makes them resistant to coccidiosis overtime. I have that experience with my noilers
Treated them day 2-5 with prococ and day 16-21 and administered it on day 35 to 37 but still didn't stop coccidiosis.

The best bet is immunization against it from day old. Chi broilers are immunized from day one. Another way is to use different drugs to tackle it or a clean free environment. I made a mistake by exposing them to their old litter which I used as manure in my garden and coccidiosis struck without warning.

Coccidiosis also stunts growth and that is the worst aspect of it.

It's a pity ur prococc failed u in my past 15yrs of doing poultry I have managed cocci, i don't use immucox vaccine cos some big farms where it failed it was a blow.
I always use Emberzyn fort, Dicox, top cocc surf and many others we have ways of knowing if the treatment will fail or not this are things we have observed overtime I but I cannot explain everything here word for word but if u have any issues I can give u insight which is not binding on u.

Like I said live stock is on the job training and sometimes if u assume without asking it may not be the best.

So my brother CHI if not we'll managed will be wiped it with cocci, cocci has no respect for brand but for conscious managemet

See the program on this thread and manage it cocci and always maintain clean and dry broader that's part of the secret weapon

If don't want to give routine treatment for cocci u u do immucox vaccine which is done in a broader where u keep the birds throughout if u remove the birds the immocox vaccine will fail, and sometimes immocox vaccine may fail with time if u totally disinfect the broader while raising ur birds that's many farmers prefere routine treatment of cocci
If u repeat it anticocci in ur timetable u have 97chances of being cocci free
Everything about livestock requires attention so it's not as if a particular breed is cocci immuned

jerome84:
Uncle Noel help Oooo, One of my 8 weeks broiler Has twisted neck, and I lost 2 of them without any sign, what can I so please?

If not that time is gone I would have said buy lasota and administer first thing in the morning the next day u give Vira mix for 3days cos it's Newcastle that is on the way but if u have viramix give them tommorow then Monday morning administer lasota with milk

Good luck
If ur confused mention me or chat me all the best

jfkenny:
Birds are 12weeks, it has not been that pleasant up till now.. Some weigh heavily whereas others are like feathers packed together.

Hope u did not go back to the bitter leaf stuff

nebokings:
please bro can I have your number?

text/call me on 08029347634 or send me an email on nebokings@gmail.com

thanks in anticipation

08135348909

jfkenny:
@noeloge82 nice pic. Can I see the full pics of ur cage..

I will snap it later it's 3 tier cage

This guy pays before 15 of every month and then this
That's a good one I don't think recession reach that state

sp2002:
My broiler will be ready for sale in 3wks time.
Location :- sagamu/abeokuta road.
Phone :- 08137775986 , 08171902802

Good job

8wks

It's just 3 wks to Christmas sales can we see some of our picture updates pls

EMMAACHILE:
Na wa. Noilers will be ready in 10 weeks to 13 weeks maximum. I measured one of my noilers today approaching the fifth week tomorrow and it was 800g already. Don't argue on what you don't know. Noilers cannot take 18 weeks except you want a 4kg size poultry.

Looks like our understanding is just different lol.
Marshall has a parent company in India. They hold the GPS of Marshall. For you to get the GPS, it must be from the parent company in India. Obasanjo farms got their parent Stock from India. Obasanjo didn't invent Marshall broilers. Which means I can also get the parent stock from India too and open my farm. Hope you get what I am saying.

Amo invented the noiler and thus hold the patent for noilers in Nigeria. For you to get the noiler, you must purchase from Amo just like the kuroiler is to keggs farm in India.

Hope the argument will stop here because it is needless, baseless and unnecessary.

Amo didn't invent noiler and Pls don't go back on ur words show use ur 13wks noiler when the time come Infact by end of this month I will remind u

And tell us ur market value then good a thing many people reading this have birds and can always make inputs then

And Pls update us no stories atleast I have given cost analysis of both then give us urs at 13wks

I have raised noiler, breed cock, broilers, Cockrails, white eager and layers of all these birds to earn u very good commercial profit is broilers and layer

So when u give ur update we shall know

Wish we can see more updates

onatisi:
Nigeria rice farmers are special farmers ,they don't need fertilizers,seedlings ,good road connections, tractors or insecticides what they need is laptops,Samsung galaxy phones ,tablets and printers .

Hmmmmm

onatisi:
Haba ! You sef

Na lie

I thought farmers will need seedling, pesticides, fertilizer and Agric extension staff more than a phone app

EMMAACHILE:
Hahaha. Broilers have different breeds like Arbor acres, Anan, Cobb 700, Hubbard, Marshall and Co. These breeds are produced by different companies. These companies hold the GPS (Grand Parent Stock) and sell only the parent stock to farms worldwide under patent. You need a license to purchase some of these parent stocks. Find out from your contact.

Zartech for example have the Cobb 700 broiler with GPS from its European partner. Zartech did not produce the broiler breed. Other farms can also get the patent from the original company and sell it.

My friend you may need to do more findings on these things. No need arguing over all this.

Noilers cannot be owned by any other farm in Nigeria except under patent from Amo. Amo invented the noiler here and hold that patent. Take it or leave it.

Bros go and confirm
We have many hatchery in Nigeria that have both marshal and ago acre don't confuse urself AMO dose not have exclusive right to noiler
All farm have target and biz policy AMO is not even producing boilers on Monday except Thursday cos of demand if boilers were that profitable I bet u other farms would have

Now give use ur break down analysis of raising noiler except u want to be economical with the truth a bird of 18wks to 2000 open market value of course no cold room will sell it when the meat is not there and another bird of 10wks with 3000 open market value and 6wks production on grow out scheme on 700 to 900 per kilo which is more profitable I guess with ur calculation u will go for 18 to 20wks @ 2000

But atleast we know it is commercially negative or give ur positive analysis Pls sir

EMMAACHILE:
Obasanjo cannot keep noilers because Amo are the creators of noilers. Noilers are patented by Amo hatchery.

Ur funny so who patented broilers
Let's not confuse issue here if u want I can give some AMO contacts u go and find the breed noiler is not the sole property of AMO but cos of low demand other hatchery are not interested in raising it.

It's just like saying that Zartech patiened broilers
Even AMO don't keep matured noiler u can visit their site or I can give contacts u can find out for urself

EMMAACHILE:
Noilers are new in Nigeria. East Africa and India where a similar breed kurolier has been available have a lot of big farms selling tens of thousands of kuroiler.
Google Kegg farms, etc for more

Overtime, we will start seeing the adoption rate in Nigeria. Noilers are not for small scale holders my friend!

Noilers have been in Nigeria u can call AMO to confirm
Even AMO doesn't keep noiler in large scale they only sell their Doc if it's that profitable why is AMO not keep it yet the buy 6wks broilers on their broiler grow out scheme and even raise more than 20k broilers of 6wks u can confirm it is reality.


Tell me 1 farm that keeps large scale noiler even Obasanjo farm that has the highest no of variety bird in Nigeria doesn't keep noiler

EMMAACHILE:
Pound for pound yes.

A 2kg noiler will be more expensive than a 2kg broiler. To compare both will mean raising them to a specific weight or time.
A broiler will reach market size in 10 weeks while the noiler will reach that size in more than 12 weeks.

If feed broiler feed, the noiler should reach that size in 12 weeks. It is then both can be compared.

Noiler meat will be leaner and healtheir than broiler meat definitely.

Profitwise, noilers should be profitable.

Anyone who has raised noilers to market size will be able to give you the practical answer.

I like ur analysis but in practice it false
Have ever seen any successful farm that keeps noiler
Have womdered why
Look at it this ur broilers for fast food and frozen chicken u keep for 6wks u sell with high market demand, then for public consumption u keep for 10wks and supply to market women
Current price is 3000 and u cannot spend more than 1200 for ur feeding and Doc cost for that 10wks

Noiler is u want good market size u will keep to 18wks at the end of the day market women will price 2000 now I rely on family and friends to pay more but check it out is it family and friends that will grow ur biz the answer is no if not people like Dangote, AMO, Animalcare will be no where today

Noilers,cockrail are manly for pet or small scale bird lovers not for career minded people
U can visit big farms Consult feed manufacturers

adepoleke:
Is Noilers Profit Wise ?

Profit wise in poultry go for broilers or layers
Do noiler when u wish to save money and for the love of keeping the birds