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Christianity EtcRe: Muslim Are The True Followers Of Jesus Christ: Strictly For Davidylnd by noetic4: 1:02pm On Sep 26, 2009
what a ridiculously deluded goon huh

how can u use the koran. . . a book full of LIES and fraud to prove a LIE? . . , , why are so desperate to prove that Jesus is a muslim? why? huh
IslamRe: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic4: 12:56pm On Sep 26, 2009
where is ur evidence that allah ever forgave anyone?
Christianity EtcRe: Muslim Are The True Followers Of Jesus Christ: Strictly For Davidylnd by noetic4: 12:55pm On Sep 26, 2009
how can u use a plagiarised book of FRAUD to support a LIE? . . .what has Jesus got to do with an arabian idol?
IslamRe: For Mukina by noetic4: 12:54pm On Sep 26, 2009
All I did was to ask 2 questions . . .do u care to answer?. . . . .

the goat-like creature banned me thrice yesterday. . .her reasons were ENJOY!!! and "Stop being a nuisance". . . I am poised to ask why the brainless nut head would deem it fit to harass me in such manner? huh huh
IslamRe: The Black Man And His Allah by noetic4: 12:49pm On Sep 26, 2009
@ olabs

how do u feel considering all that mohammed said about blacks? how do feel about allah's opinion on blacks?
IslamRe: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic4: 12:46pm On Sep 26, 2009
my opinion of allah would change. . . . . . .
Forum GamesRe: ╚►Kiss! Bleep! Hug! Or Pass!◄╝ by noetic4: 12:26pm On Sep 26, 2009
hug in style cheesy cheesy
IslamRe: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic4: 12:25pm On Sep 26, 2009
can u please repeat it here. . .cos I dont recall seeing allah forgive ANYONE huh
Forum GamesRe: ╚►Kiss! Bleep! Hug! Or Pass!◄╝ by noetic4: 12:24pm On Sep 26, 2009
pass in style cheesy
IslamRe: Is Allah A Forgiving Diety? by noetic4: 11:26am On Sep 26, 2009
1. u have not showed me anywhere allah forgave anyone in the koran.

2. criminals are punished all over the world. . . but there is a fair system and NOT the inhuman amputation and beheading as found in islam.
and morover islam is a religion. . , , why cant allah ask his followers to forgive?

3. Jesus came to fulfil the laws of God as established in the 10 commandments. . .so?
IslamRe: For Mukina by noetic4: 10:29am On Sep 26, 2009
does mukina have a brain? . . . , what does she do with it? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Results Like These Do Not Belong On The Résumé Of A Supreme Being by noetic4: 9:42am On Sep 26, 2009
can u define evil?
Forum GamesRe: ╚►Kiss! Bleep! Hug! Or Pass!◄╝ by noetic4: 11:31pm On Sep 25, 2009
hugzzzzz
Christianity EtcRe: 20 - 20 Questions From Huxley In The Huxley-Noetic Marathon by noetic4: 11:20pm On Sep 25, 2009
What this question was trying to tease out was whether it is possible for God to ultimately deal with or conquer sin, given that from the start, in his own kingdom, there has always been sin. Christianity teaches that sin is the result of freewill - if this is true, then the being who inhabit god's kingdom also have freewill, thus enabling them to commit sin.

We are also told fron Christianity that god is going to conquer sin and eliminate it in his new dispensation. This cannot be achieved if humans and the heavenly beings retain a measure of freewill. So God is gonna have to once and for all have to excise freewill from ALL beings to achieve his goal of defeating and eliminating sin. Further, god will not only have to purge the earth, he is also gonna have to purge heaven of all beings with freewill. If he does not purge heaven, then there is good chance that the whole cycle with begin all over again.

Now, what is the track record of God'a attempt at dealing with sin. I would say it is dismally poor.

1) First he carelessly create a world in which he ensure there is the capability to sin.

2) Some beings in heaven exploit this weakness that god designed in his creation and started sinning like hell.

3) Gods gets mad at these beings and he kicks them out of heaven, rather than squashing them and their sin dead once and for all.

4) He sends then out of heaven into the space of the universe, knowing that these sinful beings are going to one day torment the beloved creatures that he planned to create.

5) Then he create his beloved humans in this hostile environment replete with the possibility and temptation of sin.

6) He does not give these humans the ultimate resistance to fight out sin but makes them vulnerable to sin.

7) As weak as they are, these humans succumb to the inevitable, and they sin.

8.) What DID GOD expect? Did he know that they were gonna sin?

9) He gets angry and punishes them

10) Humans carry on sinning like hell

11) He wipes out the entire population of Sodom & Gomorah, hoping to wipe out sin in these places, but fails miserably

12) Humans carry on sinnin like hell.

13) In his wisdom, he decides to wipe out the ENTIRE population of the earth save Noah's and his family (less than 20 people in total).

14) Starts a brand new generation of people with Noah and his family, dumbskulledly thinking that this time he had dealt with sin for good.

15) Guess what - he still has not deal with sin, and sin returns as if nothing at all had happened.

16) To this day we are here still sinning away like we are in hell.


Is this God not a bumbling incompetent fart?
I can hardly make sense of the post above in view of my primordial response. . . .so help me here. . .[B]CAN U DEFINE SIN IN ONE SENTENCE?. . .WHAT IS SIN?[/B]
Christianity EtcRe: 20 - 20 Questions From Huxley In The Huxley-Noetic Marathon by noetic4: 11:18pm On Sep 25, 2009
The elements that were present in the first evolution process were protoria and these were built up from simple minerals and elements and amino acids.

So, where are you heading with this line of argument?
what was the source of these simple minerals and amino acids?
Forum GamesRe: Kill English N Go Frees (reloadings) by noetic4: 10:48pm On Sep 25, 2009
grin it would be nicest if u joinest my virgins. . . . .u will be my number 73. , , .grin grin do u want to comes?
Forum GamesRe: Kill English N Go Frees (reloadings) by noetic4: 10:17pm On Sep 25, 2009
I can saw . . . , .grin did u saw the nigeria matchez?
Forum GamesRe: Re: War Don Start!. Will U Save D Person Above You (yes Or No) Add Ur Reasons by noetic4: 10:15pm On Sep 25, 2009
Save
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Scrutinized/criticised Your Belief System Or Do You Just Believe? by noetic4: 10:08pm On Sep 25, 2009
3 times today by mukina and jarus. . . . they are angry at the constant ridicule of allah
Christianity EtcRe: Huxley,tudor, Mazaje,ogaga4luv & Naira, Can You Marry Your Child To A Christian? by noetic4: 9:44pm On Sep 25, 2009
that would be a great idea. . . they should think about EVOLVING into more intelligent creatures rather than reproducing cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Big Liars For Jesus by noetic4: 9:40pm On Sep 25, 2009
SIDP . . ,  .power to the IGNORANT grin ;grin
Christianity EtcRe: Huxley,tudor, Mazaje,ogaga4luv & Naira, Can You Marry Your Child To A Christian? by noetic4: 9:23pm On Sep 25, 2009
do they have a say in who she marries? this is not the 1st century. . .this is 2009.
Christianity EtcRe: Have You Scrutinized/criticised Your Belief System Or Do You Just Believe? by noetic4: 9:21pm On Sep 25, 2009
@ Mazaje
By the way did jesus not say that those that believe in him will do more wonders and magic than him so that people will see and believe?. . . .Why is it that people like you that truly believe in him are unable to do any of the things(wonders and magic) written about him even though you truly believe in him?. . . .
what makes u think these words of Jesus are FALSE ? are u sick? are u an amputee?
I will give u my address. . . . .once I lay hands on u in the name of Jesus, ur arms will grow back or ur sickness will disappear. . . , dont hide ur shame, . .come get ur healing. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 9:08pm On Sep 25, 2009
lolz grin grin . . , . .I am very sure that as soon as u "TASTE" this virgins, ur choice of exp women will change grin
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 9:00pm On Sep 25, 2009
what do u expect me to make of ur misguided mis-interpretations?
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 7:21pm On Sep 25, 2009
what do u make of statements A and B?
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 7:05pm On Sep 25, 2009
@ Mazaje

what do u make of statements A and B.

A. Jesus was sent to the lost sheep in Israel. . . , . . till His death.

B. At His resurrection . . . . . He asked that the Gospel be preached to the whole WORLD and sent peter and Paul to the gentiles.
Christianity EtcWhats The Case For Or Against Polygamy? by noetic4(op): 7:02pm On Sep 25, 2009
I have not seen anything in my bible that condemns polygamy. . . . yet there is a "Christian" perspective on polygamy.

This thread now invites all Christian brethren. . . . .whats ur take on polygamy?

is it biblical or is it unbiblical?. . . , . . .make bible references and dont play on my emotions. . .thank u.
Forum GamesRe: Bless Whoever Is Ahead Of You by noetic4: 6:54pm On Sep 25, 2009
May the peace of God be with you.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 6:49pm On Sep 25, 2009
@ Mazaje

Why did he tell them that he was sent to save ONLY the lost sheep of Israel and warned them NOT to go into the world and preach to the gentiles about the coming kingdom of god that was at hand?. . .
a. I cant find the word ONLY in that verse. . .why the LIES?

b. why did Jesus ask that the gospel be preached to all nations?

c. why was Paul sent to the gentiles?

noetic4 Huh in allah's paradise Huh someone is soon going to sued for libel and defamation off charactr on this forum, Abuzola be warned Tongue Grin
It was just my way of spitting them. . .after being banned by the slaves of allah 3 times today . . . .what would I be doing in allah's paradise? grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Atheists: We Need To Know Your Guiding Principles by noetic4: 6:42pm On Sep 25, 2009
@ Buda Atum

1. I am very interested in ur notion that "Laws preceded God" . . , .I would love to know ur idea of God. . . , cos ur assertion reflect that u believe/think that God has a definite begining.
Its a different thing not to believe in God, its however a completely different thing to think that God has a begining and a set of laws preceded Him.

2. First u must understand that the issue of laws might precede the 10 commandments , but they DO NOT precede the human conscience. why did Cain feel guilty when he killed abel, even though there was no law that asked him not to kill? The human conscience preceded all laws. The human conscience is DIRECTLY linked to convictions. . .so how do u explain the convictions of a non-religious young person that reflect the 10 commandments of God?

3. While the children of Israel were given the 10 commandments, the Edomites (who are the children of Esau) also had their Laws, The bible records a king receiving a revelation in genesis 20, and lastly the kinsmen and descendants of ishmael. . . , these group of people received LAWS from God not recorded in the bible. . . .but we know one thing, these laws are definitely related to the ones the Israelites received.

My point is that God is universal. . . . all laws that have stood the test of time, season and generations are from God. . . .all other man made laws have been amended.

4. the creation myths are irrelevant in this debate unless u want to state how they support the notion that God had a begining.
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity Is Wicked Rubbish by noetic4: 6:29pm On Sep 25, 2009
Did jesus say that he came to save ONLY the lost sheep of Israel and warn his disciples not to preach to the gentiles and Samaritans about the coming kingdom of god that was at hand? YES he did according to the bible. . .

Did any of the writers of the gospel say that they know jesus or have ever meet him in any of their narratives. . NO they did not. . .

Were the gospels about Jesus written long after he died by unknown people. . .YES. . .
why did Jesus ask His disciples to Go into the WORLD to preach the gospel?

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