alj harem:

Abokina, na gode. Hope business is moving

Ni ma na gode, and business Alhamdu lil-Lahi!

alj harem:

Are you insulting my english ? Aboki da ita

A'a, ko kadan! (No, not at all!)

jason123:

Afam, actually he is for real. I researched on this (highlighted part of his quote) just to see if there is any credibility and this is what I came up with.

http://de-de.facebook.com/Emopin



He also said he also he has German heritage. . . well, check the FB link to confirm. I seriously doubt this is Alj harem because his diction is quite good compared to Alj harem (no "offenise" )

But the funny thing about the part in bold is that you (Jason123) yourself are STILL seen by Beaf as just one of the 'many monikers' of Alj Harem, even though I personally have never believed this, for the same reason you have cited above!LOL

alj harem:

Abin da wurin da ? aka state

Brother, these machine-translated expressions do not make any sense in Hausa at all!

Ileke-IdI:


I'm sure that're you're really Yoruba. You're too well-"spoken" to be from either the SE/ Northern region.

Let me not open a can of worm sha.

I sincerely don't get the point of pretending on NL. Even Brixtonyute is now a Non-Nigerian.

My sister, I am Hausa-Fulani from one of the Core Northern states, but about 95% of my lecturers at the undergraduate level, and during my study for one of my MA degrees, were YORUBAS; I am a proud alumnus of TWO of the first-generation universities in the SW!

However, I do not agree with what you are insinuating in the part in bold; that we the 'Abokis' and our 'Nyamiris' brothers are any less well="spoken" than you the 'Ofemanus' LOL

chiefsabi: David Mark any day. he is the right man with a solid pedigree for presido in 2015. He would be easily elected if he has a southwestern running mate

In the complex politics of Nigeria, selecting a VP from a particular region does NOT necessarily guarantee a party an electoral victory in that region, especially in the SW; but you may still be right - he could win if he could do well in North and most part of the South.

Jeel: David Mark insha Jesus

I personally believe that if David Mark were to clinch the PDP nomination in 2015, he stands a very good chance of 'winning'; he would easily win in the NC, NE and NW and fare reasonably well in the SS, and even SE to some extent; it is only in the SW that I cannot venture a guess, esp at the moment.

chima12: Mr northsharp,carefully go through your last post,you are beginning to sound more deluded than the nduchuks.there are hausa and fulani assuming Igbo names in the real world just to shortchange the SE during army and civil service recruitment,how much more on a faceless forum like this.this is nairaland,not facebook.

Even some of your Igbo brothers and sisters would shake their heads in disappointment at the level of absurdity you exhibited in your claim in the part in bold; a Hausa of Fulani man claiming to be Ikechukwu "just to shortchange the SE during army and civil service recruitment"! Every sane person who is familiar with Nigeria would tell you that it is THE OTHER WAY ROUND!

But in any case, can you take up the challenges I threw at your NL Eze, which are as follows:

!. Can you tell JUST ONE Hausa-Fulani poster on this forum who uses an IGBO NAME as part of his moniker, for whatever reason or motive, and he/she sticks to using that moniker so religiously, passionately, proudly and for so long as your rejected Igbo brother Ndu Chucks continues to do?

!! And can you name ONE Hausa-Fulani or Northerner (or any NON-IGBO for that matter) who would so proudly state on a public forum like this that HE/SHE HAS IGBO BLOOD RUNNING IN HIS VEINS if that is NOT the case?

Onlytruth: Okay, I have a few observations and would follow them up with assertions.

Northsharp, I see that you are worried that ndu_chucks ( a total and committed CORE Northerner ) is using threats of violence to drive his political agenda, having failed woefully to do so with superior logic. You are not being sincere in your argument (or at least you are not being REALISTIC) in your position about ndu_chuks not being a Northerner.
It is even most offensive and insulting to insinuate that ndu_chucks is Igbo!

Take your time and search this site dutifully, and I assure you that you would not find ONE Igbo who reminds us that the Nigerian airforce bases are in the North, or that the jets taking off from those bases would obliterate Igboland (PH ) or Warri.
If you see such a poster, please show me!

You may not be confortable with his stratagems (as a Northerner yourself) , but it changes nothing about his origins and above all LOYALTY. if you are so sure that he is not a Northerner, how dare you tell us that you are sure that he is Igbo?

As far as I'm concerned, a man is an embodiment of his total being. One of the most critical parts of that being is his LOYALTY.
Any man who sides consistently and permanently with a tribe that committed the greatest genocide against Ndigbo can NEVER be Igbo.
If ndu_chucks is Igbo, then Adolf Hitler was a Jew!

1. I am sure you know fully well that you are being both dishonest and mischievous by describing your Igbo brother Ndu Chuks as a "total and COMMITTED Core Northerner" in this post; just check our exchange on this same subject matter, find out what you YOURSELF had previously conceded as to his Igbonness, and come back to me.

2. In as much as I would detest any threat of use of force from any section of the country against any other section, I find it even more objectionable how you Igbo posters turn your apparent PSYCHOLOGICAL DISCOMFORT at having to deal with A BONA FIDE IGBO POSTER (who may even have MORE Igbo blood running in his veins than some of you) simply because he so openly and vigorously rejects your largely insincere agitation for the creation of Biafra; what is even more detestable is the way you indulge in your ESCAPIST rejection of this LEGITIMATE SON OF NDIGBO invariably by bashing the Hausa-Fulanis.

3. As I stated in my original post, I am sure if Ndu Chucks were to join a Hausa-Fulani/Northern discussion forum today, it would take only a few posts from him for us to find out that he is NOT a Hausa-Fulani or even a Northerner.

4. Just as I cannot find "ONE (other) Igbo who reminds us that the Nigerian airforce bases are in the North, or that the jets taking off from those bases would obliterate Igboland (PH ) or Warri", I am sure you too CAN NOT find ONE Hausa-Fulani on this forum who would do so; in fact, the way he specifically mentions WARRI AND PH as targets for his hypothetical air strikes, coupled with his apparent beef with Clark, ONLY RE-ENFORCES HIS IGONNESS!.

5. Now, let me give you my own challenges; as faceless as this forum is, can you find ONE Hausa-Fulani poster who uses an IGBO NAME in his moniker, just for the fun of it, and sticks to it so religiously, passionately, proudly and for so long?

6. And if I may repeat the other challenge to you, and to all Igbo posters (including Ndu-Chucks), can you name ONE Hausa-Fulani or Northerner (or any NON-IGBO for that matter) who would so proudly state on a public forum like this that HE/SHE HAS IGBO BLOOD RUNNING IN HIS VEINS if that is NOT the case?

7. It is clear that most of you Igbo posters only reject YOUR IGBO BROTHER on NL Ndu-Chucks)PURELY ON IDEOLOGICAL GROUNDS; you find his strong pro-Nigerian views and anti-Biafran stance so discomforting that you feel you need to find a psychological, escapist way of banishing him from the Ndigbo fold!.

8. But as Sam Ikenna has rightly pointed out, Ndu-Chucks is a nice and lovely person, and I personally consider him as one of the best-informed, most objective and most detribalized posters on ND. However, you Ndigbo on NL, most especially you as their Eze, have to accept that HE IS YOUR IGBO BROTHER, shi ke nan (note how I write it, not 'shikena'! LOL)

Areosapien:


lmfao!!!! This is a very funny post cos this guy is still oblivious to the fact that (as everybody already knows) [size=16pt]NDU_CHUCKS IS A BLOODY FULANI, AND A BOKO HARAM & POLITICAL PARASITISM SYMPATHIZER![/size]

North Sharp, as your name implies, you as a brotha should be SHARP enough to properly observe or kindly keep silent in things you're not too sure of. Otherwise, I would suggest you rather change your name from "North Sharp" "Not Sharp At All"

No, he is NOT a Hausa-Fulani; he is an Nyamiri Igbo guy with Nyamiri Igbo blood running in HIS VEINS, as he himself stated in one of his posts. You would NEVER see a 'Hausa-Fulani' who would tell you that he has Igbo blood running in him, just as you WOULD NEVER as an 'Igbo' telling you he HAS Hausa-Fulani blood running in his veins, unless that is the case.

Besides, as a full-blooded Hausa-Fulani myself, I have ample evidence (from Ndu Chucks' previous posts) to prove to everybody that he is not a Hausa-Fulani; and despite the fact that his posts attracts so much ethnic vile against the Hausa-Fulanis, he is certainly NOT a Hausa-Fulani Northerner, but an Igbo - apparently of mixed ethnicity!.

As I pointed out earlier, his Igbo kinsmen on NL 'reject' him simply because of his strong anti-Biafran stance and ultra-nationalist support for the 'cesspit' called Nigeria, which might as well stems from his vast investments across the country.

The ridiculous allegation that he is a Hausa-Fulani, which is mainly leveled against him by Igbo posters, seems to have stuck on him for a number of reasons;

1. This is a 98% Southern forum, nearly half of whom are Igbos; so as they vehemently 'reject' him for being so openly anti-Biafra, they sell this mischievous perception to other Southern posters, who buy into the deception. I am sure if this were a predominantly Hausa-Fulani/Northern forum, within days EVERYBODY, including the non-Hausa-Fulani Northerners, would quite easily know that he is NOT a Fulani or a Hausa - just as it took me only a few minutes of perusal of his previous posts to know FOR SURE that he is NOT one of us!

2. His apparently strong and passionate support for keeping Nigeria united as one country tends to create a false impression that he is championing the cause of 'the born to rule' Northern elite, therefore he must be a Hausa-Fulani Northerner. And unfortunately, he seems to relish this deceptive impression, which he maintains at the expense of the Hausa-Fulanis, as we continue to take uncharitable ethnic bashing, ironically mainly from his Igbo kinsmen, because of his postings!.

So let me repeat to you, most emphatically, that the poster Ndu Chucks, is NOT a Hausa nor a Fulani. He is an Igbo guy who, apparently because of his huge investments in non-Igbo areas, would always support maintaining the status quo; successful Igbo business men like him with huge nationwide business interests, would naturally find it difficult to reconcile themselves with the thought of moving to a Biafran nation!.

But just as many posters here seem to continue to believe that [b]Beaf [/b]is an Igbo guy hiding under the ND umblella umbrella, the Igbo posters are free to continue to deceive themselves by calling Ndu Chucks a Hausa-Fulani; psychologically, they may need to 'reject' his Igbonness in this way in order to come to terms with having to attack a fellow Igbo man so viciously for his anti-Biafran stance!

ndu_chucks:

You seem to have a problem with this statement:



Let me put it in the right context and hopefully convince you that the intention was not to start an ethnic war. The fist sentence in the post "Recently, a leader of the Arewa Elders Forum, Prof. Ango Abdulahi, said the North was prepared to go alone if the nation breaks up, adding that the North would not, however, champion the disintegration of the country. ", highlights Abdulahi's stance that the North would not champion disintegration of the country.

I then described Edwin Clark's actions which I believe could lead to further breakdown of law and order and ultimately, but God forbid, war. I was simply pointing out the potential/immediate consequences of war for those who are calling for disintegration without thinking it through.

This is the best I can do to explaining that the statement was not meant to be a bait. You are free to accept or reject my explanation - I suspect you'll find out soon enough that I try to think outside the box most times, and do not pander to the tribalists and bigots on NL. Cheers.

I agree with the part in bold - that you generally tend to take non-tribal views on most issues and, as your signature visibly shows, you are a die-hard believer in 'one Nigeria', a position that makes your Igbo brothers and sisters on NL reject you as one of them - even though you have repeatedly stated that you have Igbo blood in running in your veins.

Now how would I know if your suggestion of the hypothetical 'air strikes' against WARRI and PH and your issue with Edwin Clark, and the whole attraction of the Ango-Clark story to, and your opening of the thread, were not motivated by the lingering historical problems you Igbos have with your neighbours, the Ijaws?

I had pointed out on many threads that although you are NOT a Hausa-Fulani Northerner, you seem to be one of the biggest 'magnets' that attract the most insults against the Hausa-Fulanis on this forum, simply because your Biafran brothers and sisters on NL find it extremely difficult, psychologically, to accept that an Igbo guy would be supporting and defending the continued existence of this[b]cesspit[/b](apology to Dede 1) as vigorously as you do!

Your Igbo bros and sisters who reject your because of your strong support for the 'cesspit' tend to forget that your support for 'one Nigeria' and your rejection of any idea of a Biafra country for the Igbos, might have been informed by your pure self-centred economic/commercial/business interests; you might be one of the top Igbo business elite with so many hugely extensive and intensive investments spread all over Nigeria that the mere thought of dividing the country is so, so frightening to you!

It might as be that you support the continued existence of Nigeria out your genuine belief that the creation of Biafra might not be in the general interests of your Igbo people.!

ndu_chucks: Recently, a leader of the Arewa Elders Forum, Prof. Ango Abdulahi, said the North was prepared to go alone if the nation breaks up, adding that the North would not, however, champion the disintegration of the country.

Most NL bigots ignored the bolded text in Abdulahi’s statement and, in an exercise of intellectual dishonesty, inferred that Abdulahi’s statement meant the North was calling for the disintegration of Nigeria.

The only group who may appear to be championing the disintegration of Nigeria by their actions, is the faction of the PDP led by Edwin Clark and poised to take control of the PDP BOT after Obasanjo’s resignation. This same group has GEJ’s ears and have discouraged GEJ from dealing a death blow on Boko Haram, when the opportunity existed, and allowed BH to become a major menace and threat to the country.

Last year, the mentioned Arewa Elders Forum leader, Prof. Ango Abdulahi responded to the question:

What is your opinion on Edwin Clark and others who have been clamoring for Jonathan to vie in 2011?



Edwin Clark and his group along with GEJ, broke this agreement, causing reactions which include violent Boko Haram activities. When the violence started, the same group advised GEJ not to decisively deal with BH, and the result is that they created the Boko Haram monster of today.

Edwin clark and his group had the opportunity to support Soludo and other more qualified South Easterners for VP , but instead, insisted on an Ijaw, thus GEJ became the vice president. Soludo or some other Igbo man could have become Yar’Adua’s VP and the President of Nigeria after Yar’Adua’s death.

This same Edwin Clark is poised to take over control of the PDP machine and is once again encouraging GEJ to break his promise of running for only a single term.

I ask, what have the Igbos benefited from GEJ’s presidency so far besides being used? I caution posters, particularly those of Igbo extraction to answer the question with the understanding the question was asked without any ulterior motive.

On another note, I believe that a peaceful disintegration of Nigeria is impossible and Clark and his group should be very careful. It only takes 5 air strikes on key facilities in PH and Warri, 4 air strikes on the seaports, without any ground troops to render all of Southern Nigeria completely economically unstable and set back 60 years. Clark and his group should take note of where the Nigerian Airforce bases and our Jet fighters are located, while noting who the proven pilots of these planes are. A word is enough for the wise.

I fully expect bigots to ignore Clark and focus on my comments on air strikes, but I’m sure some reasonable folks will do otherwise.

Sir, I am kind of disappointed with part in bold; I thought you are too smart and, more importantly, too responsible and patriotic, to have resorted to this kind of petty ethnic baiting!

I am afraid, the part in red is enough to convince all that you deliberately set out to throw a bait to the usual ethnic bigots on this forum (only for you to relax back and enjoy your Sunday evening as the ethnic/regional fight begins!).

Haba, you should have simply gone to the gym/cinema/football match, or for a walk, if you were that bored, instead of starting an ethnic 'war' on NL!

alj harem: This Igbo people can't stop amazing me with their short-sightless.

A typical conversation of a Yoruba-lagosian and an Igbo man

Igbo man (I)- We develop lagos and without us, Lagos is nothing

Yoruba man (Y)- Fine, it does not change anything

I - Shut it

Y - Ok

I- Once Nigeria split, Lagos would fall like a pack of cards

Y- No problem, Nothing is meant to last for forever anyway

I- Yoruba man, listen Once GEJ builds the seaport and Int'airport in Anambra and Imo. Lagos is finished

Y- Ok, again it does not matter. We are one people

I- we constitute 45% of Lagos population

Y- Where did you get that from

I- Look at this Yoruba man, better go eat amala and ewedu. Look around you

Y- Ok so be it, I mean no "yoruba controlled" media has disclaim your facts

I- all the business in Lagos are owned by Igbos with a bit of SS people

Y- Is that so, Never noticed that

I- How would you notice when your people are doing agbero etc all about Lagos

Y- Haba, Agbero are not only yorubas na, going by your logic if Igbos are 45 % then certainly most of the Agberos are Igbos because 55 % cannot be yoruba.

I- See this yarbass man, Yoruba would never change. You are the worse set of human being and the worst thing that ever happened to southern Nigeria.

Y- Was Nnamdi Yoruba when he forced us against our will to form Nigeria.

I- We don't like Nnamdi as well, Awolowo should have followed Ojukwu.

Y- How, we had no army thanks to Nnamdi marginaisation. How could we have done it.

I- Yoruba Yoruba coward, fight. I believe yorubas are the weakest people in Africa because of their oily soup.

Y- Does not change a thing. We a proud to be oily people.

I- Why do oil companies have Ofe manu people

Y- Why are you asking me, how is that my fault

I- ofe manue people are tribalistic that is why muiltnational companies void of tribalism would employ Yoruba over a Igbos

Y- well you need to go speak to Shell and co.,.,. How does this concern the yoruba people

I- Also most of the oil companies are controlled by you and your master the hausa-fulani

Y- hmmm what of permium oil etc

I - those people earned it, but Yoruba and hausa did not earn it.

Y- dude stop stressing me and go sleep

I- ofe manu, dirty stinky Yoruba people booooo etc you people are worse than satan. Chameleon etc

*the yoruba man walks away*

I must say I am really impressed by this amusingly creative post from you, my bro; however, this does NOT necessarily mean I agree with the content of the post.

Bro, it's really fascinating to see that even you of all people have a glimpse of literary creativity! Can't wait for more! LOL

991: For me, it was really difficult at first(because i didn't come with too much money) but as years went by I was able to adapt and now am well settled married and doing greatly well. my first 6months was like hell, spending spending and spending without income, I was missing everything about yankee life, I was with family and a few friends but still felt lonely all the time, I was afraid of investing my little capital wrongly or being conned, as a single guy then I was missing my yankee babe. but everything started changing when I invested a little in transport biz and was getting daily income, gradually my income increased and I got an apartment, bought a private-car and then got a wife(no long relationship, just made a choice, pay the dowry and do the traditional wedding straight)......long story shaa
but am really comfortable and happy having settled down here in naija, even if you offer me a free visa to any country now am not interested. Nigeria is the best and sweetest country to live in, though a higher level of personal mental and habitual refinement is needed, otherwise you become like others who complain about everything around them.

Congrats bro. It is quite heartening to hear this success story of coming back home, sweet home!. I feel happy for you and wish you even greater success, ameen.

BlueMurder: "I am qualified to run in 2015". Of what use is this statement in early 2012?

Please ask them, bro.!

Only in a third-world country with a backward collective mentality would a presidency that is in its FIRST YEAR of a FOUR-YEAR mandate be so mired in this kind of costly absurdity about whether the president should or should not seek another mandate at the end of the current one!.

It is quite heartening to note how several prominent Christian leaders OF OSUN STATE ORIGIN reacted with so much sense of responsibility, objectivity and decency to the serious allegations that were leveled against their state governor.

Apparently THE VAST MAJORITY of Osun state indigenes, OF ALL RELIGIOUS AFFILIATIONS, see the allegations against the governor as merely stemming from sheer political mischief, irresponsibility and recklessness.

IMHO, the governor has done well in proving his mettle with the intellectually robust and sharp defence that he reeled out so swiftly, which leaves no one in doubt as to his well-acclaimed intellectual prowess and the high quality of his team of advisors.

And I can see the whole saga turning out to be a blessing in disguise for the Yoruba people; it may create even sharper consciousness among their leaders of thought that although their region is an epitome of peaceful co-existence between Christians and Muslims, yet it would amount to dangerous complacency to think that this would be the last of such attempts at creating religious disharmony in the region; there may be more and more unscrupulous, evil-minded politicians, from within and outside the SW region, who may continue with this kind of ill-motivated, ungodly attempts to create and accentuate religious tensions not only in Osun state, but throughout the SW region!

Gbawe:

My brother, you sound like a gentleman. I will therefore advise you to stop indulging mischief-makers, bigots and shameless liars. It is very common these days, on NL, for one to predict the region of origin of those who are most scathingly negative when the SW is discussed. The big chip they carry on their shoulder against the SW and its people is always palpable. There is nothing like "giving credit where due" in their book of undiluted hatred.

Has this disgraceful OP and his many sidekicks, for example, ever praised Aregbesola for his OYES initiative that is highly lauded home and abroad to the extent the FG and around 15 Nigerian States are currently understudying the model? Like I said earlier, this is why they constantly attack Fashola and other SW administrators. They will ungraciously label Fashola "flower planter" when the entire world agrees that the man has, without dispute, done well. What does it profit a man to be full of the sort of hatred that makes him deny the truth? Go to the thread below titled "What Is The Big Deal About Fashola? Nonsense".

Of course those consumed with inferiority complex and peeved with the deserved praises Fashola gets, home and abroad, will resort to bare-faced lies to discredit the Lagos Governor. Read and view the personal pictures I supplied in defense of Fashola when the usual suspects were shouting in glee. It is the very same thing happening here. These people are driven by some primordial need to undermine anything/anyone Yoruba. I would not bother trying to converse with them reasonably. Ask yourself if there can be any objectivity in a chap who is from Delta State yet, 24/7, discusses the SW and the Yoruba people. As if some of us don't know that his region has many woeful administrators (some of the worst in Nigeria) him and others should naturally focus on.

https://www.nairaland.com/826649/what-big-deal-about-fashola/1

Thanks for all this, bro.

Onlytruth:

I think you are too smart to make this type of comparison.
The divisions we have in Southern Nigeria are very clear and loud. The northern divisions have been more nuanced if voiced at all.
Only few Northerners here state vehemently that they are not Hausa/Fulani. In fact most of them quietly accept that tag. Moreover there is one dominant (politically and religiously) group in the North -the Hausa/Fulani. That is not the case in the South.
One can argue strongly that there is one language in the North -HAUSA, because they even speak it as far south as the borders of Benue and Enugu state. So, please let's not deceive ourselves.

1. But the poster in response to whom Ejiné always insults the Hausa-Fulani has come out openly to state that he is NOT a Hausa-Fulani, and he is NOT even a Northerner, but a Lagos state indigene and a member of one of the native ethnic groups of Lagos.

2. Even if he happens to be a Northerner but NOT a Hausa-Fulani (say he is a Nupe, Gwari, Tiv, Jukun, Kanuri or Berom), NO ENLIGHTENED AND FAIR-MINDED person should be insulting the HAUSA-FULANI as a response to a real or perceive ethnic insult from any of these distinct ethnic groups.

3. Even if, for the sake of argument, we are to accept your assertion that the ethnic divisions in the South are 'loud and clear' while those of the North are "nuanced if voiced at all" this STILL does NOT in any way justify what Ejiné seems to be fond of doing; namely, insulting the Hausa-Fulani in response to a comment from a member of a non-Hausa-Fulani ethnic group.

4. If any person is perceived to have insulted the Igbo people, and that person has CATEGORICALLY stated that he/she is NOT a Hausa-Fulani; no matter how 'nuanced' the difference is between the tribe of that person and the Hausa-Fulani tribe, there should be NO MORAL OR LOGICAL BASIS for any Igbo person to target the Hausa-Fulani ethnic group in 'retaliation' for that perceived insult against the Igbo.

5. I assume the Efik/Ibibio group is as close to the Igbos (a 'nuanced division') as the Tivs, Jukun or Kanuri can ever be to the Hausa-Fulanis; yet I can NOT imagine any sensible, rational, enlightened and fair-minded person heaping venomous ethnic insults against the IGBOS in response to a poster who had clearly stated that he is an IBIBIO, and not Igbo!

Desola: as a response to Ejiné:

So much for literacy and knowledge when you can summarily call northerners bombers and "ne'er-do-wells". That is the height of ignorance, if you ask me. Isnt it this same north that produced the likes of Sanusi Lamido but yet, they are all almajiris as you put them.

Isn't it funny and rather hypocritical of you to call Alh Harem out for his "divisive" antics when you have displayed nothing else but disdain for the Yorubas? Just as you claim to see these supposed antics, some of us see through you clearer than we would through a glass. You, my dear, are nothing but a bigot.

You speak of southern Nigeria and I ask you where exactly that is? The last i checked, there was the West, the East and the South-south so please, do point in the right path to find this very recent development of a Southern Nigerian nation.

The worst part about the section in bold is that all these venomous ethnic insults against the Hausa-Fulanis by the poster you were replying (Ejiné) was in spite of the fact that the poster he was in turn responding to (Alj Harem) has stated in an ambiguous way that he is NOT a Hausa-Fulani, and in spite of the fact that I had specifically pointed this fact to him myself in a different thread long ago!

To be honest, what I find inexplicable in his (Ejiné's) constant ethnic insults against my people is that he almost always lashes at the Hausa-Fulani as a response to Alj Harem's posting, even though the later, as I have said, has come out openly to state his non-Hausa-Fulani ethnic background.

I am wondering how he (Ejiné) would feel if an ethnic bigot were to be heaping so much ethnic insults on his Igbo people as a response to postings from, say, Jason123, even after the latter has come out clearly to say that he is not Igbo.

Dede1: in reply to shymmex

Shut up Master Detribalized. It has been so nice to watch your mockery of detribalization. No wonder scallywags such as you would twist out of human form on the hearing of disintegration of Nigeria.

I agree with you on the part in bold; this poster (shymmex) seems to be confused as to the image he would want to create for himself under this moniker; whether he wants a Gwawe's/Jarus'/Sam Ikenna's kind of image (truly detribalized and therefore well respected across the NL 'ethnic divide') or that of a typical NL ethnic bigot who enjoys fanning the fire of the 'ethnic warfare'.

The earlier this poster makes up his mind and pitches his tent either way (i.e. with the bigots or with the truly detribalized camp) the better for him. Most people would detest HYPOCRISY more strongly than they would detest ethnic bigotry!

Beaf:

Sorry, bro. Those shabby pics are the ones released by the Osun state govt as evidence of their large scale road construction.
The link provided is owned by the Osun Govt. Here it is again:

http://www.onewsportal.com/gallery/road-construct-across-osun-state/

Aregbesola is the most useless "leader" ever to perch on our political horizon.

Thanks for the link.

So from the point of view of FAIRNESS, which was one of the two issues I raised in my earlier post, I can say you have done very well; you posted ALL the pictures that are there on the Osun state government's website and, more importantly, you asked for MORE pictures, in case there are any, apparently to allow you to have better grounds upon which you would want to base your comments.

But from A PURELY LOGICAL point of view, we still need to know whether these few pictures are JUST A PART of the whole of the road rehabilitation and construction initiative of the Osun state government or they represent THE ENTIRE road projects by the government.

Until we can somehow find a way of knowing this, in a verifiable manner, we cannot LOGICALLY draw a safe conclusion as to the quality, extent and scale of the road rehabilitation and construction projects so far embarked upon or completed by the Aregbesola government.

ola_pluto: ^^^ are you intentionally acting unlearned? Can you not tell the difference between shutting down roads and shutting down activities? Go read the two stories again and come back to repent

Repent ke?

wesley80:

Abeg help me ask the hypocrite. Thanks for finally putting your bad mouth to good use.

When you are in a bad mood, just visit NL - you'll soon be seen rolling on the floor with laughter!

alj harem:

can you imagine, and some people would praise Aregbesola as a working governor

But we should not fall for the fallacy of mistaking A PART of something for the WHOLE of that thing; unless someone somewhere can somehow prove that what we see in these few pictures represent the WHOLE of the road construction efforts of the Osun State Government, it is NEITHER LOGICAL NOR FAIR for anyone to ridicule the WHOLE of the road construction and rehabilitation efforts of the state government on the basis of this scanty pictorial evidence.

Yes, the pictures might depict a small-scale rural road rehabilitation initiative that might appear shoddy and shabby, but what if that is just a tiny part of the whole picture? What if there are far larger scale, better executed and more completed road projects in the state that we have not yet seen?

So IMHO we should wait for more pictures 'from the other side' before we can judge whether those who praise Aregbesola as a working governor are right or wrong, and whether his road construction and rehabilitation efforts deserve a praise or ridicule.

Beaf:

You are wrong. The Midwest was first invaded by Biafra, then the FG. Nobody bothered to ask us anything, talkless of us taking sides. Your story is just propaganda which might have been useful at the time, but is now as painful as any other false accusation. I don't see how Isoko's, Urhobo's, Itsekiri's, Ilaje's etc fought against Biafra, or even had the wherewithal to do so.

We were helpless spectators, whose lands were invaded by both sides.

E pele!