₦airaland Forum

iammo:
Until an Ibo man can become General Overseer at RCCG , Deeper Life , SCOAN, Maintain of Fire or Winners Chapel, Yorubas would continue to lead them in prayers, and collect their tithes to fly private Jets


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God bless u

Akwamkpuruamu:
Until a Southerner have the rights to sight the moon and declare Ramadan or other Islamic practices, all these are mere aberration.

Haha, a xtian pained by a muslim building a mosque! Yoruba xtian are the most intolerant of all people. While the muslims from them withstand their things, they cannot do same things to their muslim counterparts.

I am happy that u are pained by this. May God bless Yoruba muslims who in spite of provocation and temptation from xtians continue to keep to the straight and narrow path of the deen.

SmartProf:
Celebrity Agbero...our failed society made him wealthy...and ofcourse religious houses in Nigeria can be donated using proceeds from fraud and thuggery. At this rate he will fancy his chances of being Governor of Lagos.

Is the money Pastopreneurs and their happy-clappy Bible thumping sheepss legitimate? Show me a single comment of yours here or on other platforms where u question the legitimacy of the source of a money used in building a church, hypocrite!

[quote author=Pidginwhisper post=101262993][b]Stop crying in my mention. I won’t be moved because I’m neither a Christian nor muslim but if i have to go for one then I’ll go for the former.I said what i said, No sentiment.Just one question for you.Are terrorists Christians or Muslims? All those you mentioned have to do with Islam I guess. I guess the Quran was given to you by Mohammed the paedophile . The paedophile y’all hold in high esteem . Majority of what you wrote up there describes how average terrorist thinks. Not surprised. Go and be on the Queue. It’s just 1hr 30mins left for the Christians to come around and you and your smelling alfas with 2yards

I fvck ur moda once at her place of work. STFU or I reveal her name to u. I know u as ur friend revealed to me the face behind ur moniker. U that I slept with ur rotund moda. I can tell u the exact point of a scar in her back.

Pidginwhisper:
An idiot who believes dying by tying IED to waist grants him automatic access to 72 virgins spotted. Just like your moniker, No sentiment, I’m just being honest. Idiota

No, the biggest idiot is those who believe that the Quran makes mention of 72 virgins and use it as a point they believe is advocated by the Quran. An idiot who deceives himself that someone dies for his sins. And idiot who worships Pastopreneurs that dupe him of his earnings. An idiot who cannot research the object of his hate but lazily regurgitate age old lies. An idiot who doesn't know the art of using water in the toilet. An idiot who went about naked as recently as in the 20th century. An idiot who the whiteman gave bible in the one hand and brainwashed him to steal his resources. An idiot whose holy book is full of filth and contradictions. An idiot whose holly prophet or god said " I am come not bring peace but a sword'. An idiot whose body stinks for his unbelief. An idiot who doesn't know his right from his left.

Pidginwhisper:
Its’s nothing new. Mohammed Yusuf,Abdul Muttalib, Shekau, Gumi and few others once won this Quranic recitation of a thing, but we all know how they turn out today. In 10 to 15yrs time we go see result.

One idiot who believes 1+1+1=1 spotted

Ikonsoway:
Family Affairs

This ur comment is what aggravated BH.

Because DGT controls 60% of the Nigerian cement market.

ParpahSeventy:
and who says Muslims are peaceful?
The peaceful ones are not up to 30%, is it not Muslims that will deny someone a position because he is not a Muslim in a place with higher population of Muslims?
I schooled in northern Nigeria, I know and felt the hate of Muslims, so stop lying to yourself.

Of 14 commissioners I. EKITI, only 2 are muslims. Same in Ondo and Edo. So what are u saying?

SpecialAdviser:
You mean Christian terrorism is in reading while Islam is in action? Ok. I hear

No terrorist act rivalled the crusade and the Spanish inquisition against muslims.

Xtian countries invaded Afghanistan, iraq and Libya. Chaos still being in these places

Currently, there are around 1.8 billion Muslims in the world, and out of this number less than 1% are violent or terrorists. In statistics, we are told it is statistically biased to use a small sample to generalize on the larger population. Yet, today even though less than one 1% of Muslims are terrorists, why do people generalize, stereotype and stigmatize Muslims as terrorists?

The big question now is what constitute a terrorist act? Is it the action or the intention of the terrorists or both?
If we say it is the action, then we may define terrorist as “the act of killing or maiming non-combatants or innocent people”. Here we are only concerned about the action that makes a terrorist or constitute terrorism.

Using this action-based definition, we cannot in all fairness say that terrorism is the exclusive preserve of muslims. Many non-muslim state and non-state actors have, over the course of history, committed (and continue to commit) acts of terrorism. For instance, cultists and ritualists in Southern Nigeria commit acts of terrorism for several decades. They kill, maim and cause public fear. Other terrorists in the south also commit terrorist acts by setting petty thieves ablaze. Armed robbers who detonate explosive devices at banks in the south also commit acts of terrorism. Boko Haram and Fulani bandits also commit acts of terrorism in this regard as their despicable actions also demonstrate. Therefore, using this ACTION-FOCUSSED definition of terrorism, it CANNOT BE ESTYABLISHED THAT TERRORISM IS THE EXCLUSIVE PRESERVE OF NORTHERN NIGERIA OR MUSLIMS. Rather, both north and south, both Christian and muslims are guilty of terrorism.

On another hand, we can also define terrorism in terms of the motivation of the perpetrator. That is whether the perpetrator implicitly or explicitly says they derive their motivation from a Holly Text (Quran or Bible or whatever). For this type of terrorism, the first thing we need to interrogate is the claim of the perpetrator that their holly scripture provides the motivation for his action. Thus, first of all we need to study the scripture as unbiased researchers to establish the veracity of the claim of the terrorists that they are motivated by their holly book. Secondly, we need to establish whether the majority of those sharing the same religion also believe and derive the same violent motivation from their holly text.

WHAT DO THE SCRIPTURES SAY?

Both the Bible and Quran are not pacifistic scriptures. They both have verses talking about warfare and violence. However, contrary to what many may be inclined to believing, the Bible is adjudged by experts to contain more violent verse than all the religious scriptures in the world (https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124494788 ). When u google ‘The most violent religious scripture’, all the entries you will find relate to the Bible. Some of these violent biblical verses can be rationalized within the context of history but many others cannot be justified. The story in the bible of how the Amalekites were annihilated by the Christian God remains a classic example of genocide unrivalled by any holly texts. Similarly, there are verses in the Quran that are adjudged by many as violent and the muslims too, like Christians claim that those verse can be rationalized when applied to their historical contexts. Thus, the issue now is how do we ascertain the truth? We can research these scriptures ourselves and form our own opinion on whether they are violent or not and which are more violent than others. However, the ideal thing to do now is to look at how the majority of believers in these holly texts (Bible and Quran) are influenced or motivated by their respective holly texts.

HOW ARE THE ADHERENTS INFLUENCED OR MOTIVATED?

In order not to take the claims of the terrorists at face value, we need to ask the question of how the vast majority of other believers sharing the same religion with terrorists are motivated. Are they also violent or not? If the vast majority of the adherents of a holly text are violent, then there are enough evidence to conclude that their scriptural text provides the motivation for terrorism. If, however, it is the small terrorist fringe elements that are violent, then it would be unjust to conclude that the Holly text that is able to have a peaceful influence on the majority but a violent one on a minority (the terrorists) is actually a violent text. This is being unfair to the holly text and is akin to blaming and condemning a father/mother of 10 children simply because two of their sons are wayward. This is most unjust, unfair and unscientific way to generalize. And unfortunately, this is what we do to muslims. All the terrorists in the world put together are not up to 1% of the 10% of the 1.8 billion muslims in all corners of the globe. But why use the actions of 10% (?) to condemn the vast majority of the 90%? The entire Fulani ethnic group and the Kanuri tribe from whom bandits and boko haram come from respectively, do not represent 30% of the muslims in the north (Fulanis are just 9% while Kanuris are definitely less than that in the country). Even if both BH and bandits represent 30% of muslims in Nigeria, is it scientifically justifiable to use the bad actions of 30% to condemn the majority 70% ? Or is it fair to pin the blame on the muslim holly text (Quran) that is able to raise a whopping 70% of peaceful children just because the remaining 30% are wayward?

Moreover, when talking about terrorism, there are other mundane issues or political-economic factors that we conveniently overlook in our attempt to paint all muslims with a black broad brush. Most of the acts of terrorism going on in muslim majority countries or regions have the belssings of countries in the West that can conveniently be called Christian countries (e.g the USA, UK, Germany, and others). Yet, we always delineate and dissociate (because failure is an orphan) the actions of these countries from their Christian religion background. Isn’t Christianity not supposed to mould and refine the behaviour of these countries and their leadership? For instance, who can deny that former US president Bush said that God asked him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq (see video below)? But why don’t we also blame all Christians and Christianity for the these equally terrorist or illegal acts? Because America controls the media and our thinking process, and they did not deem it fit to have us think along this line?
Video [Bush said God asked him to go to war and as far as I know Bush worships the Christian God]:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKt56ztXSK0
Apart from Iraq and Afghanistan, it was Christian countries of NATO that also bombarded Libya, killed Ghaddafi and caused endless chaos that spill over all parts of West Africa. Yet, we never associate their terrorist acts with their religion because they did not say they were inspired by the Bible, right? But doesn’t the action as we have seen justify the label? Or why do we belive the minute muslim minority terrorists saying they were inspired by Quran but refuse to believe the majority of muslims who explicitly or implicitly through their peaceful actions and demeanour tell us their religion doe not inspire violence? Why should what a minority say and do have more credibility than what the majority say and do? Because we are blinded by hate and hatred for muslims and the Islamic faith?

Finally, since all the weapons used by terrorists are manufactured in Christian countries, I wonder why Christianity has not been able to influence those Christian countries to stop manufacturing those deadly weapons for us all to know peace. Also, there are ample evidence that America, a country we all hail created Taliban, AlQaeda, and ISIL (see videos below). Yet, we pin all blames on the Quran, Islam and muslims as we brush aside all other political economy factors that conduce to make terrorism thrive in our midst.

(1) America created the Taliban

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j1H330Nmo
(2) America created the ISIL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2avVIHde8
(3) Clinton confirms thruth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9riC3944m8

Thelife:
I guess they are been killed by there fellow mumuslim.

Did you know how intolerant you terrorist are?

Can you show us how many Christian that's playing in your Saudi league?



The most toxic people feel the most unjustly treated even while they treat others the most unjustly. It's the same reason snakes bite.

They being killed by xtian countries of America and Nato and others in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya etc

ReeLoaDead:
Yet you cannot see a single follower of the Bible chopping of another person’s head (and other violent crimes) like the hardline followers of the Quran like to do ...

(1) Who invaded Afghanistan and iraq and killed millions of men and women and children? A xtian president (Bush) of a xtian country (America) who said God commanded him to do so watch:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKt56ztXSK0

(2) who dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing millions of civilians, women and children? A xtian country.

(3) Who disintegrate Libya and cause chaos there and in West Africa? Xtian countries.

Xtians dont have mouth to talk when it comes to terrorism but because they control the global media, they set the agenda and dumb ppl like u cannot think or read between the lines.

Thelife:
I guess they are been killed by there fellow mumuslim.

Did you know how intolerant you terrorist are?

Can you show us how many Christian that's playing in your Saudi league?



The most toxic people feel the most unjustly treated even while they treat others the most unjustly. It's the same reason snakes bite.

Why do u xtians lack basic manners? Small thing u will resort 2 insults and abuse. Is that how ur Pastopreneurs bring u up spiritually?

ParpahSeventy:
this is where your problem lies, DECEPTION, who are the terrorists now?
Who are the ISIS, boko haram, ashbab, Taliban's, etc etc now, are they reading the bible?
They use Quran as their guide, so what are you saying?
Or you read your Quran and thought you read the bible?

The bible is the most violent book on the face of the earth. Just Google it. Quran is more peaceful and less violent than the bible

ParpahSeventy:
who are those practicing the act?
Where do they get their inspiration?
What is their chant?
"Allahu Akbar".
It's in the bible right?
USA created boko haram too abi?

But why are yhe over 80% peaceful muslims not so inspired? Or is the few terrorists that deviate the rightly guide ones?

ParpahSeventy:
this is where your problem lies, DECEPTION, who are the terrorists now?
Who are the ISIS, boko haram, ashbab, Taliban's, etc etc now, are they reading the bible?
They use Quran as their guide, so what are you saying?
Or you read your Quran and thought you read the bible?

But who created ISIS and the taliban and even al Qaeda? A xtian country that is supposed to be influenced by the teaching of xtianity, that is USA. Watch the following videos.
1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9j1H330Nmo
2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU2avVIHde8
3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9riC3944m8

So at least u now know a xtian country (America) created all the terrorist groups u mentioned

Farki:
Peaceful religion that kills those who leave it, impose taxes on non believers, kill polytheists, and cartoon artists. The followers of the peaceful religion should release Mubarak Bala from his captivity.

The question is are the majority of muslims terrorists or violent? No they are not. So why use the actions of the few of them to condemn the majority? U think if ur bad actions are used to generalize on ur good actions u will escape judgement?

zombieHUNTER:


A Muslim peaceful in places where they are minority. Okay....
You are definitely not in northern Nigeria if you think it applies everywhere

Even in Northern Nigeria, over 80% of muslims are peaceful and peace loving. That a few hundreds of boko haram and bandit are not doesn't mean the over 80% peaceful ones (some of which are my friends) are not. Truth must be told, man. Have ever lived in the north or befriended one or two northern muslims? U cant just use a small sample of bad eggs to generalize on the larger population.

SpecialAdviser:
Hope you will not become terrorist against same people that did such good to you my friend?

What brought up the issue of terrorism here? You think terrorism is the exclusive preserve of muslims? You think people elsewhere are as bigoted, biased, unjust, islamophobic, hateful, fanatic and blinded by hate for muslims as unthinking and sheepish Nigerian xtians are?

Bible is the epitome of terrorism. Have u read the story of the Amalekites and how ur xtian God ordered the killing and annihilation of all of them including women, infants, ox and even trees? Doesn't ur God Jesus said " iam come not to bring peace but a sword"? As a xtian, u live in glasshouse and the game of throwing stones isn't for u.

DesignAndBuild:
Wow Wesley Fofana is muslim? Never would've guessed.

Alot of them are, they keep it low key to have their peace. Muslims are endangered species these days. Over 1.5 billion of them are peaceful and peaceful loving, yet the Islamophobes and overzealous Nigerian xtians want to use the despicabke actions of the few muslims that are less than 1% to generalize on the over 1.5 billion peaceful majority.

Philipponzaghi:
Yorubas and other Southerners in the North should better start planning on how to relocate home now because things will definitely escalate in the North sooner.

When it happens, they won’t differentiate between Igbo, Yoruba, Ijaw, Benin, and etc.

Don’t let them use you to count scores.

Northerners have not started attacking even a fly and you are here talking about escalation. You are either unaware of the meaning of the word or u are stereotyping northerners.

Northerners are biding their time. They want u to finish doing ur worst b4 they show una shege. Una think u get monopoly for madness.

Agbegbaorogboye:
You see what I'm talking about? You guys just like fishing for excuses no matter how ridiculous to robe Christians into your terrorism. Did you even watch the video you posted? Where in the video did George Bush say "God commanded me to invade Iraq and Afghanistan". This is a news report by a liberal news channel looking to ridicule (not even support) George Bush and you're brandishing it as if it's a fact!! If you know anything in international politics as you claim, you really believe George Bush will tell Palestinians of all people that God commanded him to invade the Middle East and it will not become a burning topic but a backhand news by a liberal apologist? You guys are not ready to face reality. Keep searching for your excuses as if they excuse the acts of Sheikh Muhammad Yusuf, Shekau, Bin Laden whose videos are everywhere quoting Quran and claiming to be fighting Jihad.

That's another problem you have. When the West supported Libya, you had no complaints. When they armed Gaddafi, I didn't hear you claim Christians are arming muslims. But when they turn against him to support the other side who are also muslims, then the Christians become terrorists. Are the US and UK the ones who started the Libyan war? Is Libya under the control of US or UK or now a Christian state? Where were you when the US ambassador was killed?
It's even funny you are angry over Libya as if Libya was an Islamic nation initially? Muslims invaded Libya and imposed their religion on the Christians there, forcefully converting them. You didn't complain about that but you have a problem with US and UK supporting rebels to fight Gaddafi? Why are you such an hypocrite?

I can see you are an expert on terrorism now? So what is the outcome or result of Shekau's terrorism since his intention of enforcing Sharia throughout Nigeria is not important according to you? You should even be ashamed of that statement.

Deaf, dumb and blinded by prejudice and hate and hatred, u will always defend America and condemn muslims. That's in your blood and how u have been brought up to reason. That you are now the spokesman of the usa, the first country to drop atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki is pathetic. But anyway, this is not unexpected from a Nigerian xtian who has no moral compass or precepts, who licks the a$$ of Europeans, who claims monogamy at daytime and sleep with three ashawo by nightfall, who claims he respects human lives but burns petty thieves alive, who is so gullible and docile as to believe that 1+1+1=1.

Agbegbaorogboye:
Americans and British have never said they are fighting for the entrenchment of Christian canon laws in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. In Iraq, it's due to the same terrorism that America attacked them. Anti-terrorism is an American state policy not a Christian policy or is George Bush a Pastor now?
In Afghanistan, it's the same love of terrorism that led to them being attacked. Libya was not attacked by US or UK. You don't need to engage in lies. In fact if they did, they would have had very good grounds with the killing of the US ambassador in Benghazi then. But instead, they blame Clinton and Obama not Libyan rebels.
Muslims should answer and condemn those who hide under Islam to commit atrocity. Bin Laden, Shekau etc all quote the Quran in the course of their jihad and claim to be following the teachings of Muhammad while doing their evil.
You simply don't know what hypocrisy is. Bush's invasion of Iraq was well condemned by the Western world. It is a diplomatic matter not a religious one. The hypocrisy is in you Muslims who claim terrorists do not represent Islam, but rush to the defense of a sheikh who has openly supported, encouraged and even attempted terrorism. Yet, terrorists do not represent Islam according to you.

(1) Your St. GW Bush says God commanded him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKt56ztXSK0
(2) If hare unaware that the US and UK are members of Nato who joined forces to invade Libya, then you are ignorant about international politics.
(3) BTw In terrorism what matters is the outcome or actions, not the intention.

Prinnce1:
rest oga. Attack the message and not messenger.

Your insult to muslims and northerners is facing the message, right?

FarahAideed:
Something tells me between Gumi and Pantami lies Shekau

Something tells me between ur fada and moda lie a drug pusher and a scammer or a prostitute.

Amotolongbo:
This Roots TV and every other TV station airing Gumi’s view need being fined and suspended.

Sheik Gumi is to the Bandits and terrorists what Emma Powerful is to IPOB

Yet ipob can have platforms to spew their treasonable felony, idiot

Prinnce1:
Nigerians brace up because this country is falling apart and no salvation is coming .Am Ashamed to be called a Nigerian with this man, its a pity.

It is because you are blinded by hate and hatred. The true embarrassment is when u travel out and see the damage to our reputation your drug pushing and scamming fada and moda cause us.

KevMitnick:
It will not be well with who ever joined us to these animals

Are there more animals than those who were going about stark naked b4 the whiteman came and clothed them and civilised them. We were literate and wearing Bubbar riga when the white ppl u are as$ licking came calling.

Maks27:
We are finished

Fulani government has finally finished us.

So be it by His grace.

Agbegbaorogboye:
What does Pantami's terrorism have to do with the Bible? Did he say he read the Bible before committing those terrorist acts or did he say he was led by the Christian God?
How come anytime a Muslim is found in terrorism, you guys start looking for examples in Christianity instead of condemning the terrorist?

It is because you irrationally use the actions of a minority of us to condemn all of us and our beloved religion. So i feel u should be concerned about the dust in your own eyes b4 pointing accusing fingers at other. Btw, why don't xtians condemn the actions of their American and British brethren in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and other Muslim majority countries? Or only muslims should answer to the crimes of their brethren while xtians hide under one excuse and another to avoid the atrocities of their brethren in muslim lands. You hail America in spite of its atrocities in muslim countries, and yet you think muslims have to be the spokesmen and women of the Bin Ladens, Shekau, and other deviants, right! U need to have a long look in the mirror today and you will see a hypocrite therein.

Gandollaar:
GTFO! Which Telecom?

Telecom ordered fatwa on a young student in ABTU or they made those terroristic statements credited to him?

Patami should not resign and buhari should not sack.
It's very good for the image of a country at war with terror.

You can. chestbeat here all you want, but if tomorrow they refuse to sell you weapons to fight your bandits, hope you won't blame Igbos.

Your God ordered the killing of the Amalekite completely with the men, women, infants, ox, and everything. So when it comes to terrorism a xtian has no mouth to talk.

Theoretically and practically, u have no mouth to talk on these issues. Bible is the most violent religious scripture (Google it). Xtians did the crusade. Xtians invaded Iraq and killed millions of men, women and children. Xtians invaded Afghanistan. Xtians dropped atomic bombs at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Xtians cause the chaos in Libya. And dont tell me they did not proclaim the xtian religion to be their motivation. As xtians are they and their actions not supposed to influenced and conditioned by xtianity and the Bible?