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Anyway, I've also come to the conclusion, we are spirits/souls in a physical body living here on planet Earth. People who say there are multiple universes might be up to something.

On another note, started taking my dreams serious and recording them. Had some highlight dreams over this period such as
- War in Ukraine
- Osinbanjo declaring to run for president
- Ethereum falling below $1k (then it was above $4k, I didnt take too serious & lost my money )

Some other ones which have some comma
- Russia fired one big missile (or maybe they already have. The 1st thing is to think its nuclear but in the dream, it was just huge, as in very big, this does not mean it was a nuclear missile)
- Ethereum moved to (cough) (cough) - I actually saw a 2nd number not just the one below 1k - I just dey observe crypto for now.
- There was a strong commotion in a certain part of Nigeria, and it spread to another region.

Take all above with levity because no one knows the future, I feel the above touches on geopolitical and internal security if people believe en masse, so lets not be rash to judgement.

Anyway, I've also come to the conclusion, we are spirits/souls in a physical body living here on planet Earth. People who say there are multiple universes might be up to something.

I earlier posted these stories:

(1) https://www.nairaland.com/5694171/4-out-5-pastors-said

(2) https://www.nairaland.com/5975800/re-4-out-5-pastors

I read this old post, decided to give an update.

1st thanks to all who gave advice, some were really helpful.

Eventually a few weeks after my 2nd thread, I had another dream similar theme again on her leaving. That same day, when we were talking, she passed a comment and said she can disappear and I wouldn't find her. I think that's what made my mind up. Eventually fizzled out. And not long after I met someone else. We started talking, and everything just fell in place. We are married today . Taking each day as it comes, continuing to pray for God's guidance in all. Thank you to the Nairaland community.

EmmaFantastic:
First of all, just forget the 1st lady completely (based on what you described of your relationship with her) - except of course, the former situation with her surprisingly improves. You marrying a girl because 1 human being somewhere that calls himself a Pastor "saw vision" will be an act of monumental stupidity - you may not understand me until the day your eyes see openly/you get to know, very deep/grave atrocities committed by certain satans who call themselves Pastors. See, in life, always do either what the Holy Spirit directly ministered to you/leads you to or do what your heart tells you/desires/leads you to, that's all!

Then for the dream, don't worry much, it is a call to prayer. Here:
- Sometimes dreams are just coincidences, but you pray about them, to be on the safe side.
- Sometimes dreams are evil dreams, evil attacks/spiritual torment from forces of darkness (yes, they do attack people in their dreams!), nightmares, etc. Whenever such happens, when you wake up from the dream, pray against it, cancel and revoke it in the name of Jesus.
- Sometimes dreams are revelations - God is exposing to you what the devil or enemies might have planned for the future. I myself, I see "revelations" (personal) a lot - it's 1 of the biggest ways the Holy Spirit has been showing me personal things and anytime I dream, I follow up with physical investigation. About this your dream, you said you do see her leave, well, that might be referring to short life (untimely death) that workers of iniquity have planned for her life and not what you're thinking that she will abandon you in future.

My counsel to you:
Be praying and making prophetic declarations about the dream, as well as praying and making prophetic declarations on her life and yours (because sometimes dreams actually might be talking of someone else entirely and not really/necessarily the subject in the dream).
Also, maybe you should discuss about it with her, perhaps she might also be seeing "things" too, who knows.

thanks, i have tried asking her if she dreams, she says no, she hardly ever dreams. I will find a way to get her to pray about it too. nevertheless, thanks, I will also try to pray for life for both of us. at the end of the day, my prayer, let God's will be done. Maybe this is all a stage I am learning/passing through.

rago:
@ novakk, I highly recommend that you follow this advice! In the strongest terms, I urge you to find ur way back to the first Lady who they revealed you share compatibility. By the way, compatibility is deeply spiritual. Yes, u r still going to have issues, big issues that question your compatibility. But that's only in the physical, mundane realm. Going forward you will begin to see how spiritually connected you both are.

You will accomplish extraordinary things in a short span of time. U will fight huge battles together more effectively than others who have been at war for many many years and see no headway.

Point is you will succeed faster and make limited fatal, self-destructive errors.

The devil will find ways to show that you can't be together. It's the devil. He will show how much a lot of things are wrong with you both being together. Na lie! You ARE FIRE. SHE IS AIR. LET HER FAN YOU TO GREATNESS. YOU ARE GOING TO BE UNSTOPPPBALE. But why should it be that easy at first? Think about it.

this is very convincing. you made many good points, some of which had crossed my mind in the past. the funny thing is the 1st one knows me very well. It is just she is also very troublesome, that I wondered am I running away from someone who is putting a mirror in my face, or is she the one who does not have tact in talking to people..

sexymoma:
@novakk.. let me tell you a story.. A man dreamt that his cloth was missing in his wardrobe, he kept dreaming of these for some days.. until his child died.. In Yoruba we use to say omolaso means our children is our garment.. why am I telling you this... You dreamt that you guys were together all of a sudden you didn't see her again.. hello it may not mean you divorced her.. it may mean something else.. she may actually be your partner but pray against untimely death for her.

ok, thanks. I'll pray for her well being, if we end up together or not

Phenomenal16:
........this have happened to me personally
Even though no pastor prophesied..... But I had series of dreams that he was king leaving
Guess what
He left ,,,,,he stopped calling me as usual
My dear,,,,,the spiritual controls the physical
I could remember creating series of threads
Then.......continue praying

thank you for sharing

bigl:
Everything, everything, everything that matters in life must be built!

U build a relationship into wedding, wedding into marriage!

U build a girl in to a woman!

Be willing to do the work!

No relationship is perfect and we will continue to learn and improve on ourselves as time goes on!

Expecting pastor to say "she is the one" won't always work!

Everything about life is not spiritual!

If it was then we won't need to eat... instead, we will pray the food into our stomach!

I agree, though, personally i feel i have always been building people in the past but not for myself, for others, maybe i should just go after ready made, serious lady who knows her onions too

@ admin / moderator, i cant modify first post. let me add an update

ashatoda:
one of the worst things to engage in in marriage is to be critical of your partner. I'm not inferring that you become a douchebag because of that but what I have been able to notice in my few years of marriage is that women appreciates it when you try to speak to them in love and not to criticize so please work on this

thanks, your point is well taken

mark2sunny:
Gods will most time don’t always look it. Sometimes not attractive, be it Marriage or career. Might just be exactly what you don’t like. But then, that’s what’s best for you.

Like I said, it won’t appeal to you from the beginning. That’s when we go back and pray again. In fact, the dream you have about the second person is self explanatory. She’s not for you. Her leaving might be after ruining your life. So, don’t even consider her.

If you don’t believe in what pastors have said, then seek the face of God yourself. Somehow, if the first girl wasn’t for you, there’s a chance you’ll have a dream about it.

This particular point of your life is very vital. It’s sometimes different if you don’t get leading from above. But if you get, and ignore, I’m tell you right now, it’ll end in tears.

My fiancée wasn’t my friend, we always argue about something I feel she’s not doing right. So, I didn’t like her that much. But one day God spoke and I was like, ‘this girl’? But before that, she blocked me on WhatsApp for like 3 months. So I had no reason to even have her as a friend.

Today, I’m trying to understand what I wasn’t ok with before now. We even prayed together about it, and both had similar revelations. At some point, she got confused and still went to pray, then God showed her what the future would look like. I knew she was the one when we were about to pray but couldn’t believe it.

Go to God for answers. Fast if necessary, just get it right. Your wife might not look it today.

Yh, I also see this point in my life as vital, which is why i want to rely on not only my judgment but advice from others. Your situatin even sounds similar to mine. I am praying everyday for direction, I believe all will end well.

Expresswriter:
Pause the second relationship.

Fast for some days.

Ask God to speak to you.

Read books on marriage.

Hear from God.

It may be the first lady, the second or none of them.

God will speak.

Lastly, read this very well

Read Joyce Meyer's book How to Hear from God.

Be optimistic.

That book will change your life.

You can download the pdf version online.

Appreciate this I'll look for a short summary of the book

highcadre:
Can you quote the Pastors' exact statements?
Is it that the first one is God's perfect choice for you, or that she would also fit in just fine, if you wife her? They mean different things, you know.
About the second girl, you can always pray out her 'leaving part' and make sure you dream of her 'not leaving', before you venture near her, peradventure she happens to be your choice, ultimately.

more like 1st is perfect, others are just fine

Rimbaldi:
There is no law that narrows your choice of a life partner to either of those two women. Don't be in a hurry to marry and make a life altering mistake. Almost everything that happens in the physical comes to us in dreams, even funny stupid dreams that ostensibly look like it has no bearing with reality but believe me it does.
I started understanding the relevance and interpretation of certain dreams from my wife.

Pray for deeper insight. Ask God to speak to you in ways that you'll understand. Hoping or praying that the first woman will change is just a waste of time. You don't marry someone based on your wish that they change.

Do a self evaluation to be sure that you are not the one going off track with your expectations.

I appreciate your advice

ibiba55:
Please sir, take your emotions from the both of them and pray. Sometimes situations like this, can one not to think clearly. Just ask God with this scriptures(Jeremiah 33:3 and job 33:14-20) I believe you will find your answers. It might take a while just be focus.

thank you for the advice

Angeldada55:
Men, nigga I've been observing your post for a very long time.. Do u ever reason outside the bible or religion? Do u sometimes engage in reasonable discussions about life, business, sports or politics without involving or referencing the bible? For me it's very tormenting, I just pity those around you or those u engage daily on discussions. Dem dey try.



Guy,

Since, you nor fi use tongue count your teeth... I pray you find your sense �

loooool i can engage you in discussion from ancient times, from socrates, to greek mythology to the roman empire, julius caesar's conquest of gaul, the huns, to world wars 1 and 2, how they arose, what movements drove the pre-war sentimentalities, to the psychology of the african vs the african american, what capitalism has done to the world, why democracy wont work in nigeria, how to fix nigeria, to the new generation footballers in 2020, to how our tastes in music have been influenced by the dominant culture of the era, to the different psychologies of different continents, which regions of the world are hotbeds for growth, which are stagant, how brexit affects nigeria to how technology, data, the new oil, and changing modes of education will shape the world as we know it

Yes, I engage in other discussions too.

emkz:
Ogbeni, so you need a pastor to tell you who your wife is AT your age?

How old are you? I mean, how old do you feel you are mentally?

For marriage, you need emotional, mental, psychological and psychic maturity to function as a husband. That you have a penis and a good job does not mean you are prepared to share your life with another person. A clear indication of your unpreparedness for marital union is that you need, not one, not two, but five pastors' opinions to decide on your life's journey. Please invite your village and conduct an election so that they'd vote if she's your wife or not.

I feel your words. Even me, I am not proud of myself right now, why I decided to make a decision a while ago. Just these dreams are now confusing me.

Tango123:
Do u realise that the dreams could be ur mind replaying ur fears back to u

Answer this question please. Before u began having the dreams, did u have any doubts about her, or fear she might leave, or be pretending?

Ur answer to the above question is significant

Most dreams is just our minds replaying our thoughts back to us.

yes, i have read about how dreams occur, and I have thought they might just be fears. To your question, no I have no doubts about her or she leaving. Even till now, if we quarrel, it is very small and we understand ourselves, so we quickly and easily resolve issues. No problem at all.

Tedpgrass:
I feel he needs to give it a rest from both..

There's just too much static...

He can't hear at this point spiritually cos flesh is in control


.

I really will try this, take a break from all this, freshen my head, thanks

ikorodureporta:
U c d problem with hacking into the future??
Everything una won do, na to visit seer first

others please learn from me, this thing causes confusion

Afolashade00:
According to your write up, I can relate. You want the second lady because you think you are compatible and she's better in so many ways compared to the first one.
I would urge you to take your dream seriously since this is the third time already.
God speaks in different ways, since you don't want to go with what the pastors said. Now he has come to you in dreams then you are still doubting.
What exactly do you want? Or will you prefer God to come down from heaven?
I advice, pray fervently and ask God to open your eyes of understanding or probably ask for confirmation from God through someone else entirely .
What if the second lady is only pretending, hmmm! I pray you don't marry the wrong person.

You got it spot on, I feel better, more compatible with her.

colestephan86:
An uncle if mine went to a pastor for guidance about a business he wanted to start , the pastor told him that he shouldn't do the business, today his logistics business is so big that he buys brand new FAW trucks.
My conclusion is analysis paralysis is our problem.
If you feel the girl is good for you then go for her rather than asking everyone to tell you their diverse opinions

which is why i belive I can pray about it, and all will go well

Holamiwepo:
[/quote][quote author=novakk post=914791 it depends, have you mastered the art of hearing God before? How does he speak to you. Has he ever spoken to you through dreams before? These questions must be answered
I agree, which is why I decided to pray about it and move with my decision.
So am I to take the dreams to mean anything?

Yes, I have dreams from time to time. Sometimes it happens, sometimes not

Jabioro:
The meaning of your dream.The lady you are seeing or having your mind with,there would be by tomorrow,I meant future which is not too far from the present a circumstances beyond you and her that would definitely separate you ..I prayed not by death.. because In that dream it indicated the point of you can't find her.."death"..To avoid it, avoid the present courtship..

Hmm, ok

Maobichek:
. Is it in Nairaland that you are asking for advice on issue like this? It could have been better if you follow your instinct since what PSTs told you at first wasn't ok by you, but I must advise you to stay away from Nairaland with issue such as this cos majority that are here are immature set of ppl, try and go ppl who have experience and have come of age, thank you.

OK thanks, I'll take note

monimekaz:
First thing first :what is worth in Naira or USD? Bros see the kind dream u dey dream, na woman matter you carry for head upadan when people of your age grade are looking for money.. I mean good money.. Better money!!

hahaha my brother, I dey ok with money. I don hustle tire. Now na the settling down and family stage.

LoveJesus87:
Don't EVER try to get married to the 2nd lady that you said you dreamt about two of you being together peacefully and all of a sudden she is nowhere to be found before you woke up. DONT EVER. Am a live example of that. Exactly same thing happened to me with the lady I met 2017 and wanted to marry. It simply means you are not going to last together at all no matter the peace of mind she is giving you now. NEVER. you can take it to the bank. This is a living testimony talking.

And don't make the mistake that you can pray it away. Prayer is not the solution to everything. Sometimes obedience is the solution. You have prayed and you have been informed of what lies ahead that you are going to last together. Over to you.

I hear you, it is not easy. Trying to think if it something we can pray about, or should I tell her so she prays about it too?

obataokenwa:
Since pastors have started helping you to decide who will be your wife, you're now devils play toy.

Most of those pastors don't even have a good home let alone seeing who will give u peace. Go to God in prayer and follow your heart when it comes to marriage.

Reason you're having series of dreams now is cos devil is very much interested in that ur marriage and be ready for battles.

Better shun dreams and pastors and try fast dry for two days and seek God for final decision. Those pastors are using psychology on u

Thanks for the advice

Thank you everyone for the responses.

I'll summarize my replies because there are a couple that are similar.
Contrary to what many think, I am not a very religious person, which is why I already made my choice. I am very logical. Even the dreams, I am asking myself maybe the dreams are manifestations of inner thoughts (I've read about it before). I also belive I can will myself to success, and pray it all goes well. But now with this 3rd dream, and let me add someone else had a similar dream, making 4, I am beginning to think, maybe I am just disobedient. I didn't make this world, I just got consciousness one day, so am I just fighting the wrong battle? Maybe I should just submit, close my eyes and believe all will go well

To start, I understand the backlash because of the whole, talking to pastor thing. Let's just say it wasnt my initiative. Infact it is more than one because I didnt really want to accept what the 1st one said. Anyway, it is part of tradition for some of us. In real life, I am not one given to religious beliefs. That is why I forgo-ed all advice and went with who I liked and felt comfortable with.

Yes, the dreams are confusing me because in one part, I don't want to put any weight on them, and want to believe I can work it through. On the other hand, I have been told I believe too much in the physical, that the spiritual leads. Yes, it is good to be all scientific and logical, but there are still some things we cant explain in this world. Furthermore, I have inferred the deeper meaning of the dream but I didnt want to say it or give power to it, however some people here have already alluded to it. I have dreamt before and it came to past (my ex leaving before she did), there are also other dreams that did not.

Again, some elders might have heard of this - when you've been told what will happen, you can still turn the cowry and try to ameliorate the situation, maybe it will change the end result, maybe it will not.

The reason I am here asking because I want to hear voices apart from people around me, people I dont know, people who have fresh perspectives and can be objective, and are offering their own genuine advice. Here it is not a pastor or friend or family or dream. So thanks again for all the comments.

cruxgemmata:
I for like share this level with u. Dnt knw if u r game. U hit the nail wella. If not, change d content to water.

I would appreciate a bit more detail, at least it would help me see my errors.

MODIFIED POST

Thank you everyone for the responses.

I'll summarize my replies because there are a couple that are similar.
Contrary to what many think, I am not a very religious person, which is why I already made my choice. I am very logical. Even the dreams, I am asking myself maybe the dreams are manifestations of inner thoughts (I've read about it before). I also belive I can will myself to success, and pray it all goes well. But now with this 3rd dream, and let me add someone else had a similar dream, making 4, I am beginning to think, maybe I am just disobedient. I didn't make this world, I just got consciousness one day, so am I just fighting the wrong battle? Maybe I should just submit, close my eyes and believe all will go well

To start, I understand the backlash because of the whole, talking to pastor thing. Let's just say it wasnt my initiative. Infact it is more than one because I didnt really want to accept what the 1st one said. Anyway, it is part of tradition for some of us. In real life, I am not one given to religious beliefs. That is why I forgo-ed all advice and went with who I liked and felt comfortable with.

Yes, the dreams are confusing me because in one part, I don't want to put any weight on them, and want to believe I can work it through. On the other hand, I have been told I believe too much in the physical, that the spiritual leads. Yes, it is good to be all scientific and logical, but there are still some things we cant explain in this world. Furthermore, I have inferred the deeper meaning of the dream but I didnt want to say it or give power to it, however some people here have already alluded to it. I have dreamt before and it came to past (my ex leaving before she did), there are also other dreams that did not.

Again, some elders might have heard of this - when you've been told what will happen, you can still turn the cowry and try to ameliorate the situation, maybe it will change the end result, maybe it will not.

The reason I am here asking because I want to hear voices apart from people around me, people I dont know, people who have fresh perspectives and can be objective, and are offering their own genuine advice. Here it is not a pastor or friend or family or dream. So thanks again for all the comments.

Righteousness89:
Bro, Pray about it! Ask God that you desire to know personally His Choice for you..

Stay away from sin , so you will be able to See or hear when he reveals..

Don't give God a Choice! Allow Him give u His Choice..

God Speaks! God Directs! God leads!


I Believe in what God reveals to you Personally!

I agree, which is why I decided to pray about it and move with my decision.
So am I to take the dreams to mean anything?