Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:41am On May 22, 2025*. Modified: 11:47am On May 22, 2025 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:22am On May 22, 2025 |
Why is China crying
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Russia trying to destabilise the continent with military coups. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:16am On May 22, 2025 |
Lawag3: What did the US do in Greenland?
Palestine legally partitioned between the Jews and Arabs. Arabs attacked the Jews and lost lands.
Russia attacked Ukraine for reasons that I feel are vague except someone explain to me the reason for the attack Clown must have been waiting for the US to invade Greenland and Canada to have some sort of justification for their "Mother" Russia invading Ukraine. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:23pm On May 20, 2025 |
Gbadebo19: Exactly 6 years ago, on May 20, 2019, Volodymyr Zelensky was inaugurated as President of Ukraine — officially assuming office. It's been 3 years of war. Take it or leave it, Zelensky is a strong man. 3 years of not abandoning your people, 3 years of the worst conditions as a president, yet he is still standing despite numerous assassination attempts from the teddy bear and his stooges. His bravery especially in the early stages of the russian unprecedented and unprovoked invasion kept his country sovereignty. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 3:33am On May 15, 2025 |
Appleyard: It's a game of try and see being played by some stupid NATO countries in the name of trying to stop Russian shadow ships moving oil for Russia and bypassing western sanctions.
Few weeks ago, a German and Danish naval ships attempted to hijack a foreign ship suspected of carrying Russian oil. Well, the Russians sent in a Corvette which fired warning shots at the NATO ships and locked on to the German ship. The bullies got the message and they ran away from the showdown, allowing the Russian oil-carrying ship to sail on its usual course. 
If care is not taking, one of these days, one of those local government cum countries in NATO would push more than they can swallow and give Russia a legitimate reason to sink their entire naval force, and if they're hoping the US would come to their aid, well. I have a sea to sell them. It's then they will realize that article 5 of NATO only exist on paper when a giant like Russia is involved.
I just they look them dey laugh.  attached a link to these your bedtime stories. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:58pm On May 13, 2025 |
Donald Trump and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman sign a $142bn (£107bn) defence agreement..
And one dude was telling me Saudi Arabia was moving towards Russia😂😂🤣😂 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:27pm On May 13, 2025 |
DeathParade: I have no clue what shitshow has been going on in this thread and why. Its perfectly clear that:- 1.) Terrorists targeted non-muslims in the Pahalgam attack. There is no dispute about this, every single eye witness gave the same testimony. 2.) Pakistan has been attacking India through LeT and JeM. TRF is just a mask, not some splinter group, of LeT. All of these are protected, financed and trained by the Pakistan Army and ISI. 3.) Indian Intel intercepts and sources about how Pakistan is involved in the terrorist attack in Pahalgam will be presented by India at the UN. 4.) India had allowed Pakistan to join investigations of many previous terrorist attacks on Indian soil. For example, the Pathankot airbase attack in 2016. Here it is stated on record the details on the official Indian foreign ministry website, the answer to a question asked in the Indian parliament about the same issue. Read: https://www.mea.gov.in/lok-sabha.htm?dtl/26689/QUESTION_NO614_INVESTIGATION_INTO_PATHANKOT_ATTACK
Honestly, at this point, wondering whether Pakistan is the one that carried out any terrorist attack in India is akin to questioning whether the earth is round or flat. Only two types of people engage in this kind of questioning:- 1.) Naive people who have never actually studied the Kashmir terrorism since the 1990s. 2.) Terrorist sympathizers.
If people on this thread that are raising this question belong to category 1, my answer should at least give them pause. But if they're from the category 2, then I don't plan on engaging their drivel. Terrorist sympathizers are evil. In this age and time people are still doubting Pakistani supports for terrorism. Pakistan remains the biggest state sponsor of terrorism after the Islamic Republic of Iran.. Leaders and former leaders of Pakistan have openly admitted to sponsoring terrorism.. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:21pm On May 13, 2025 |
Watcharena: road side lawyer,law school dropout all Na the same thing Nah. They're just asking from the knowledge you gained when you were still in law school before you drop out or before you become a roadside lawyer. Anyway till we meet in 2 weeks time You sound bitter.. no offence |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 6:19pm On May 13, 2025*. Modified: 6:39pm On May 13, 2025 |
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 2:32pm On May 13, 2025 |
IMEI: You're referencing a Botragelad thread as evidence, a notorious anti-islam propagandist
Despite the claim that high ranking Pakistani military officials attended Lashkar-e-taiba burial, in none of the pictures he posted were any of the officials present. Honestly I thought you were smarter than to promote obvious propaganda
I've thrown you a bone, India is the epicenter of disinformation in the entire world. If you want to double down on asserting fallacy, be my guest Simple question, So we don't waste time, Is the Pakistani Government sponsoring terrorism in India and Indian administered Kashmir. Yes or No |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:59pm On May 13, 2025 |
Bigsam99: So because their nationality is Pakistani, they are sponsored by Pakistan? Kashmir is a predominantly Muslim society and it is natural that Kashmiris will prefer Pakistan to India. However, Kashmiris want to be sovereign. You have been jumbing from pillar to post, from your original arguments of pining the The Resistance Front ( TRF) to the attacks, to trying to paint a group in africa as a Christain terrorist group to this.. The Lashkar-e-Taiba are a Pakistan based organisation, and they are sponsored by the Pakistan government, do the math. https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperinformation?paperid=112412Try and read and stop jumbing into arguments you know nothing about |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:55pm On May 13, 2025*. Modified: 2:16pm On May 13, 2025 |
IMEI: Once again, Indian talking points
You've made several assertions without providing any supporting evidence. Maybe I should take your word for it right?
Henceforth, when you attach screenshots, please provide links to the screenshots for objectivity sake Should I take Pakistan version of events, that they weren't involved?? There's a topic on FP which shows high ranking official from the Pakistani Government attending a known Lashkar-e-Taiba commander burial.. what does that tell you?? If high ranking Nigerian offical were to be in attendance of slained boko haram commander burial, what does that tell you?? Anyone who follows the insurgency crisis in India and India administered Kashmir knows the role being played by the Pakistani intelligence agency the ISI.. It's something that's well known to all. You may wanna play ignorant to win an argument, but I don't care. Your whole argument was base on a moderate group the The Resistance Front ( TRF) behind the attacks which later turn out to be falsehoods. What is your arguments here?? The Indian government maintains that the Lashkar-e-Taiba are behind the attacks, well I guess you know more than the India government, are you telling me the India government would lie, and risk starting a major conflicts with a nuclear armed neighbour Just to portray a Pakistani and Islamic agenda.. So I should take your word and that of the narratives of the Pakistan authorities 🤣😂 |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 12:10pm On May 13, 2025*. Modified: 12:59pm On May 13, 2025 |
Bigsam99: Please I am tired of all these back and forth because you seem not to get my major arguments. Some of your assertions are just wrong deductions from factual sources. You said: LRA are not fighting in the name of the Lord, nor are they fighting or seeking to establish a Christian caliphate but that is not true. The LRA itself clearly states it operates according to the 10 commandment.
Again I told you salafism is not mainstream Islam and just an offshoot but you and western media will choose to label every Salafist group as 'Islamic Group'
Another example is the various Jewish groups in occupied Palestine killing unarmed Paleatinians and taking over their property. Nowhere has any western journalists tag them "Jewish Terrorists". One of such is the Jewish Defense League (JDL), a radical organization that preaches a violent form of anti-Arab, Jewish nationalism.
Do you now agree that the term Islamic Terrorists in most cases is just a form of framing? It operates within the Ten Commandments??  Which among the ten Commandments do they operate?? Just list one of the ten Commandments the Lord's Resistance Army actually follows?? If they are they following the ten Commandments they won't be killing civilians.. They simply said they want a Congo state governed by the Ten Commandments.. There's simply no Christian doctrine, nor Bible verse, or any Christain law that the lord's Resistance Army uses as justification to commit the atrocities they committed, hence they can't be tagged a Christian terrorist groups period. No matter how you try to spin it. I added the objectives of the Lord's Resistance Army there's nothing religious about the objectives?? Hamas, Hazebolla, Hizb-ul-Mujahideen. Jaish-e-Muhammad Lashkar-e-Taiba, boko haram, ISIS, Houthis, taliban, Al-Qaeda, Islamic brotherhood, Al Shabaab. Ansarallah etc, what is peculiar about all this groups?? They are all "Islamic terrorist groups" their ideologies, objectives, goals all mirrors a form of Islamic extremism That's the truth, you can't spin it.. This is my last take on this issue. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 11:36am On May 13, 2025 |
Bigsam99: Ypu continue to counter your own assertions in your writings. All your references to Islamic ideology only indicates justification and not objective. You wrote it yourself:
The group justifies its ideology on verse 2:216 of the Quran
Now, the LRA of Joseph Kony justifies its objectives with the Bible. Has it ever been referred to as a 'Christian Terrorist group by western jounalists' ?
Below is how my Chat GPT describes the LRA:
"The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA), led by Joseph Kony, is a Christian extremist organization. Its ideology centers on a distorted interpretation of Christianity, including the Ten Commandments, aiming to establish a theocratic state in Uganda. This has led to the LRA's brutal practices. Kony presented himself as a spiritual leader, claiming divine authority for his actions. The LRA's ideology is not representative of mainstream Christian beliefs."
Now, why don't journalists say emphasize Islamist groups are basing their ideology on a distorted interpretation of Islam because I know several Muslims who don't subscribe to their ideology. Salafism is not mainstream Islam. In its publications and on various platforms, the organization has consistently articulated its primary political goals, which include the destruction of India, Hinduism, and Judaism. The organization considers jihad a religious duty for all Muslims, with the establishment of a caliphate as its central religious and political objectiveAre the above 👆 statements, are they not objectives??, the groups objectives include the destruction of India. Hinduism, and the establishment of a caliphate in Kashmir, are these not objectives?? All these are justified using the Islamic religion. Hence, the Lashkar-e-Taiba are tagged as an Islamic terrorist group.. Lord's Resistance Army was designated a terrorist group by the US and some other countries. looking at the ideology and objectives of the group, you won't find any Christianity extremism in it, They are not fighting in the name of the Lord, nor are they fighting or seeking to establish a Christian caliphate, nor forcing the Christian doctrines nor "Christianity" on anyone, the Ten Commandments they are using as a benchmark has a Commandment of "thou sha not kill" among it. There's nothing in the groups manifesto or ideology that uses "Christianity" as a focal point to commit atrocities. The Lord's Resistance Army is a terrorist group, she was designated a terrorist group based on the atrocities she committed, including murder, abduction, mutilation, child sex slavery, there's no Christian or bible reference being used by the Lord's Resistance Army to commit these atrocities.. hence they can't be called a Christian terrorist group. The Lashkar-e-Taiba, on the other hand, like other Islamic terrorist groups, uses the quran as a reference point to justify its atrocities. The objectives always mirror the establishment of an Islamic caliphate and the destruction of other religions. Hence, they are tagged Islamic terrorist groups. jihad, which these terrorist use as an excuse to attack people, is enshrined in the quran. The MSN in the eastern part of Nigeria, they can be tagged as a terrorist group. They are mainly Christians in the east, The M23 rebels were tagged terrorist group, by the DRC government. They are majority Christians.. but you can't tag them or the MSN "Christian terrorist group", because there are no Christian extremism in their manifesto or objectives.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:50pm On May 11, 2025 |
shoodboi2: You all should stop trying to give this a religious twist. On one hand, you say “it is not about religion per se” and then go on to try to make it appear to be about religion. 80% of Indians are Hindi, so it makes sense that the majority of the victims were Hindis.
But they were not targeted because they were Hindis. They were targeted because they are Indians. A Christian was also killed, and so was a Muslim tour operator who died protecting the victims.
Trying to force a religious narrative is like someone killing a Hausa or Fulani man over issues he has with Hausa and Fulani leaders and then you twist it to claim it is about Muslims and Islam. The average Hausa and Fulani man is a Muslim. But does that mean they were attacked because they are Muslims? No.
Let us focus on the truth here rather than trying to turn this into another religious war. We can talk about the India and Pakistani crisis and wars without making a single mention of Hindi or Islam. It's like saying the Israeli and Arab debacle is not also being fuelled by religion.. All i am saying is that you simply can't mitigate or completely rule out the role religion is playing in the conflict, Religion was the Major reason they had to split the two nations in the first place. Am not saying its a religious war, but religion is playing a role in the conflict.. It's on record the group which carried the attacks wanted to kill Hindus, no matter how you try to spin it, they specifically asked for people religious affiliation before gunning them down. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 5:43pm On May 11, 2025 |
usmanpogo: This makes no sense, I hope you know a Christian and a Muslim was among the 27 people killed Dude they the Christian and the Muslim might have been killed in the cross fire, the terrorist group that carried out the attack is an Islamic oraginszation, and they targeted Hindus. Those who survived the attack can attest to it, the attack was carried out specifically to target India Hindus.. The problems between the two nations runs deep and religion is one of it, religion was the major basis the British had to split the two in the first place. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 3:19pm On May 11, 2025 |
usmanpogo: I'm not sure anyone thinks it's religious You lawyers are really good at twisting facts 😁 Bonne journee 😊 Well, the conflict is not a religious conflict per se, but you can't fully mitigate against the influence of religion in the case of the present India-Pakistan debacle. Religion differences were key reasons in the partition of India into two, with the Hindus in India and the moslems in Pakistan. Religion is very important in both India and Pakistan, and the groups who are carrying out these attacks in Indian occupied Kashmir are "Isl*mic terrorist groups. Also, people who were eyewitnesses said the attackers targeted Hindus during the attacks.. you can verify it yourself..
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 11:57pm On May 08, 2025 |
shoodboi2: The man who posted the first photo you used to debunk the claim uploaded a screenshot video from his phone where he clicked on the image on Google Lens and it took him to the photo he uploaded yesterday. I also checked the web and discovered such glitches are common with Google Lens.
As for the Reddit post, all I ask is that you show me the link to the article? I believe that is not too much to ask for.
To further disprove your Reddit post, the date clearly states that the photo is from 2016, even though France delivered the first Rafale to India in 2019, three solid years later. So, how was India crashing Rafales in 2016 when it didn’t even have any then?.
But then, there is no need for too much talk. Just show us the link to the Reddit post. And please don't quote me anymore if you are not providing the link to the Reddit post.
The picture used by the guy, according to Grok3 is a picture of a India bison mirage jet shut down in 2022, that picture was edited to make its seems like a Rafael jet. Also I couldn't find the link to the Reddit post..
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:32pm On May 08, 2025 |
shoodboi2: That is a lie. A very big one. When you click on his photo from Google Lens, it takes you to the photo he posted yesterday. Why don't you show us the Reddit thread this one takes you to when you click on it? Or is there something you are hiding? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:32pm On May 08, 2025 |
shoodboi2: That is a lie. A very big one. When you click on his photo from Google Lens, it takes you to the photo he posted yesterday. Why don't you show us the Reddit thread this one takes you to when you click on it? Or is there something you are hiding? Dude I have no investment or interest in this conflict, both are Russia and China allies, am all for escalation. They are alot of errors in that pictures, the tail number is also wrong, The Rafael jets numbers starts with an RB not BS Grok3 the AI bot in X also debuked tye picture as falsehoods..If the Pakistanis actually shot down an India jet. I don't care let it be a credible evidence. A jet was shot down, and only the tail section showing the Tail number was recovered?? That guy posted the picture, seven months ago. Those who fact checked it confirmed it.. nothing like Google glitch man. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:17pm On May 08, 2025 |
dermmy: How China Helped Pakistan Shoot Down Indian fighter Jets
A French intelligence source confirmed to CNN on Wednesday that at least one had been shot down, marking the first time a Rafale has been lost during combat. This is from Telegraph one of your western media outlet. Please read everything. obedience40
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/05/08/how-china-helped-pakistan-shoot-down-indian-fighter-jets/ All the telegraph did was quote the Pakistans and a fictional French intelligence officer.... LmAo That's your proof, the word of the Pakistanis You are a propagandist.. it all over the Internet that the pictures you posted are fake. And they are not the French made jet.. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 9:07pm On May 08, 2025 |
shoodboi2: You and your slow hommies are the one spewing propaganda here. Dermmy is actually correct. The page you posted is pro-Pakistani and the handler @Mohsin_o2 confirmed that Google Lens is glitching and classifying his photo as old.
He actually posted the photo of the aircraft’s tail on May 7 yesterday and not 7 months ago as in that Google Lens screenshot you posted.
I should add that there is a lot of propaganda and media blackout in this Indian-Pakistani clash. So, it is hard to know what is true and what is not. But for now, Mohsin_o2's photo actually proves the jet was shot down.
I also searched the web and did not find any old photo of the horizontal stabilizer of the BS 001 jet from seven months ago. This further indicates that photo is most likely recent and the jet was actually shot down. But again, one cannot say for sure. I don't have time for the merry go round, keep deceiving yourself, the mosh guy deleted the first one he posted This one on redit is also Google glith
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Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 7:31pm On May 08, 2025 |
Dvdpity: 60+ yrs old man is young?
You are mental! Considering the age of recent popes, this new pope can be termed young.. I totally agree to the other point thou |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 1:33pm On May 08, 2025 |
A simple request, show me any news source of the Houthis claiming responsibility for downing the US jets. Mr "tiktok" is posting videos of news platforms reporting on the US military losses. Nobody is doubting the authenticity of the news of US naval jets going over board. The US Navy itself confirmed it and made the announcement themselves.. and also stated the reasons for the loss.
The Houthis have always taken responsibility for the downing of US drones.,responsibility for attacking civilian ships, responsibility for attacking Jewish targets, How come they didn't take responsibility for the "imaginary" jets shut downs?? Seems our terri*sts loving brothers now have more info than the terr○rist themselves.
The biggest problem in this thread is not even the propaganda. You can easily cure that with facts, but the ability to comprehend effectively, kai that one has no remedy. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 12:13pm On May 08, 2025 |
Kingsnairaland: UK USA evil nato admit its plane it second jet plane went into the water in the sea
Do you think they will say it was shoot down by Yemen lol
Are you this naive Show us any news source of the houthis claiming responsibility for shooting down US jets, the Houthis attacked a Jewish airport and they made a fuss about it.. Pakistan is making a fuss about an imaginary Rafael downing, how come the houthis are not taking responsibility for the incident?? The Houthis always acknowledge US drones take downs how come no statement regarding a jet shut down  Who's the navie one?? |
Foreign Affairs › Re: Russia-Ukraine War: World News, Weapons & Battlefield Discussions - Live by Obedience40: 11:47am On May 08, 2025 |
Just Imagine If they were no independent minds here, this thread would have been a cesspit of propaganda..
No wonder they are all having a "hard on" over the blocking option.. |