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usmanpogo:
You're one of the few rational pro-west supporters here

I've a question for you and I would like your honest opinion, no sugarcoating, no bs, here it goes:

To the best of your knowledge, do you honestly think Ukraine can win ?

And what exactly would you describe as a victory for Ukraine ?

Vic2023:
save the picture and Google lens it,it will bring you to that news site

okeysoninv:
lolz is Kursk no longer Russia territory. Putard retard you want to change goalpost. West is calling the shot now, coward Putard redline in the mud. Hahahaha

Vic2023:
oya, come shift am (goal post) as usual
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Vic2023:
goal post shifter,una well-done ooo
From 'brings evidence that YPG killed civilians' to 'turkey and Qatar source are propaganda sources' and now to 'brings only article of YPG' ,abeg don't quote this post anymore

Gbadebo19:
Yeah, it's an old ship but still remained the flagship of the black sea fleet. I want to believe you understand the meaning of a flagship.
A ship is not a rifle that is built discarded in 5 or 10 years. They are designed to last and last really well. 50 years is just an average age for a ship. So, don't bring that rubbish argument of it being made in 1979. It ain't too old yet.
B2 spirit was introduced in 1997 and is still the king of stealth and will be for at least the next 7 years. Take it or leave it.
Btw, you are not suppose to understand my reasoning, your brain capacity is far far below my level.

Jovi10:
Na you dey call am collateral damage. The news you posted as evidence didn't say that. how you take know say na collateral damage? Where you there ? Keep running round in circles . You just dey collect gbas gbos from left to right to center but knowing you, you'll never admit that You're wrong , you have never been wrong always right like pastor okey

Vic2023:
you initially said ANC did not kill any civilians, it's now change to they did not kill white civilians,
Abeg no quote me again

At about 06:45 on 28 March, police arrived at Andrey Perlov’s house near Novosibirsk in Siberia.

They accused him of stealing about three million roubles ($32,000; £24,000) from a Novosibirsk football club where he was the managing director - he and his family deny this.

Perlov, who is 62, is an Olympic gold medallist, having won the 50km race walk in 1992.

He has been detained for more than six months and his family says he is being pressured to agree to fight in Ukraine. He’s been told that, in return, the embezzlement case against him would be frozen and potentially dropped when the war ends.

It’s no secret that prisoners have been recruited to fight in Ukraine, but BBC analysis can reveal how the initial focus on convicted criminals has shifted to include people yet to face trial.

The latest laws mean that both prosecution and defence lawyers are now legally obliged to inform people who are charged with most crimes that they have the option to go to war instead of court.

The legislation, passed in March 2024, means that if they sign up, the prosecution and any investigation will be stopped. Their cases will generally be closed completely at the end of the war.

“This has turned Russia’s law enforcement system upside down,” says Olga Romanova, the director of Russia Behind Bars - an NGO that provides legal assistance to detainees.

“Police can now catch a man over a corpse of someone he has just killed. They tighten the handcuffs and then the killer says: ‘Oh wait, I want to go on a special military operation,’ and they close the criminal case.”

We received a leaked recording of an investigator describing the advantages of signing a contract with the Russian army to someone whose husband had already been sentenced to three years for theft.

“He can get six more for this other crime,” he tells her. “I offered him a chance to sign an agreement. If his request is approved, he will go to war and we will close the case.”

If the accused signs, within a few days the criminal case is suspended, and they leave for the front line almost immediately.

Three lawyers working in Russia confirmed that this has become the norm across the country.

Some sign up in the hope of avoiding prison and a criminal record - but it’s not an easy way out, as teenager Yaroslav Lipavsky discovered.

He signed a contract with the army after he was accused of intentionally inflicting "serious harm to health by a group of persons by prior agreement”.

His young girlfriend had just found out she was pregnant and in order to avoid prosecution, Lipavsky signed up with the military as soon as he turned 18.
He left for Ukraine and a week later was dead - one of the youngest soldiers to die in the war.

It’s not clear how many people accused of crimes have opted to fight instead of facing trial, but this shift in policy reflects Russia’s need to reinforce troops while minimising the number of other civilians it needs to mobilise.

“Do Russians care about convicts or those who are in prison? I suspect that they don't,” says Michael Koffman, military analyst at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

He thinks the government “likely assumes that these are people they can lose, that nobody will miss and that they will not have a substantial, negative effect on the overall economy”.

When the Wagner mercenary group first recruited prison inmates, its late leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, targeted convicts in high-security jails, saying he needed their “criminal talents” in return for pardons.

The BBC and Russian website Mediazona have seen and verified confidential documents that shed light on the process of recruiting prisoners, what has happened to many of them and the need to maintain the flow of new fighters.

We know, from analysing the dog tags of convicts who died in Ukraine and payments made to their families, that Wagner recruited nearly 50,000 inmates from penal colonies, and at one point were losing up to 200 in action every day. Many others were injured.

All prisoners’ dog tags start with the letter K, which stands for “kolonya” or prison colony.

The first three numbers identify the prison where they came from and the last three numbers identify the recruit, given out in sequence - so the higher the number, the more recruits came from that colony.


Payment records show that more than 17,000 prisoners were killed trying to capture the city of Bakhmut in eastern Ukraine between July 2022 and June 2023 alone.

To plug the losses, Wagner, and later the Ministry of Defence, have adapted their recruitment strategies to broaden the pool of people they can draw on.

Some people accused of crimes refuse the new deal because they are against the war in principle, others because the risk of dying or being injured on the battlefield is too great, and others because they want to stay at home to fight their case.

But they can come under huge pressure from the authorities, says Andrey Perlov's daughter Alina.

“He refused and we made quite a big noise in the local media so he was sent to the strict punishment cell, where they brought him the contract again.".

She adds that when he refused a second [quote]time, he was forbidden from seeing or calling his family.

They still hope to prove his innocence, but the last time Alina saw her father in court in mid-July, he had lost a lot of weight. “He tries to keep himself cheerful,” she says, “but if this goes on, they will break him.”.

We asked the Russian authorities about Andrey Perlov's case and whether they are unfairly pressurising detainees to join the army. They did not respond.

usmanpogo:
I'm glad we agreed he was the leader

Mandela spearheaded the ANC, which means he was aware of their operations, there might be no proof he was involved in those operations but he was complicit.

Let's assume that was why he was incarcerated.

Another question

Are there proof the Late Hamas leader murdered civilians ?

Vic2023:
empty skull

FoolishBoy419:
Show me proof of Yahya Sinwar instructing his men to kill civilians.

Vic2023:
hope you understand what he means

FoolishBoy419:
Are we back to these outdated lies now? Even if they were true, Israel did much much worse, so we could argue that it was a retaliatory attack.

Now let's get back to the Haitian revolution.

By the way, are you aware that I can use your silly logic and dare you to give me proof of Sinwar directly killing civilians, right?

usmanpogo:
One question bro

Did the US label Nelson Mandela a terrorist ?

Bear in mind that Nelson Mandela is one of the most popular symbols of African Resistance.

FoolishBoy419:
Nonviolent struggle means none use of violence in general, just like the path Mahatma Ghandi and King followed. Violence doesn't only apply to civilians. You claimed that Mandela never employed violence, and we'ved proved that as a blatant lie.

I have no way of proving that he directly targetted civilians, but the ANC did it and Mandela never condemned or expressed regret for it. That's all I can say.

It seems you don't know about it. Read about the Haitian revolution and come back to tell me whether you think what they did was terrorism or not. You should also tell me what you think about the French resistance against Nazi occupation.

Vic2023:
maybe Hamas learned from nelson Mandela

IMEI:
Yes the leader of an armed guerilla fighting paramilitary group was a pacifist...that makes sense

More than 90% of Hamas casualties are military personnel and even some of the so called civilians are armed settlers who routinely kill or shoot at Palestinians

Your so called outrage at Hamas is laughable, considering that you believe all Palestinians murdered by israel are human shields

Rest abeg

FoolishBoy419:
He has shifted the goal post yet again. You repeatedly claimed that Mandela never engaged in an form of violence, and I proved you wrong. Here's more:

"We first broke the law in a way which avoided any recourse to violence; when this form was legislated against, and then the Government resorted to a show of force to crush opposition to its policies, only then did we decide to answer violence with violence. But the violence which we chose to adopt was not terrorism."

"Having said this, I must deal immediately and at some length with the question of violence.” “Sometimes 'violence is the only way of ensuring a hearing for moderation."


By the way, I challenge you to tell me what you think of the Haitian revolution. Don't dodge this question

IMEI:
Hamas' fight is against the oppressive and Zionist State of israel and not against all Jews like it's founder Ahmad Yassin stated

You went from claiming Mandela was for non-violent struggle, to now saying something else...but apparently the problem is lack of comprehension on our part and not your rigmarole

FoolishBoy419:
I knew it. Just watch the way this witless prick is referring to a gang of white murderers oppressing Africans for fun as "the government." Let's go further, Algerians and Haitians were also terrorists for attacking "their government," don't you think? Brainless clown.


Why then was Nelson Mandela arrested and called a terrorist? You guys are sickeningly ignorant and dumb. Here's one of the many quotes of Nelson Mandela:

"Violence was the only weapon that would destroy apartheid. If I had my time over I would do the same again, so would any man who dares call himself a man."

Go ahead then, call him a terrorist like the asskissing lunatic that you are

Vic2023:
mumu,ode oshi
You to be arguing blindly

Firstly :civilian were killed by Mandela and his group
Secondly:The freedom was taken by violence through Mandela ( he incited violence)

USA kidnapped and killed civilians during the revolutionary war

Pls fact check it before replying to it ooooo

IMEI:
Mandela founded Umkhonto we sizwe, the paramilitary arm of the ANC, which engaged in guerilla warfare against the apartheid Government

Despite his incarceration, Mandela refused to denounce the violence of the ANC

The way many of you, confident in your ignorance, turn history on its head is alarming

FoolishBoy419:
And in your dumb little brain, that "a number of nations" who by the way, have absolutely no objections to Israel's 7-decade long apartheid see Hamas as a terrorist group automatically means they're terrorists? Prideless asskisers like you would still be seeing Nelson Mandela as a terrorist if your masters hadn't changed their views on him.

shoodboi2:
I've followed your conversation since yesterday and you keep running in circles as usual. Mandela was declared a terrorist by the US and he remained on the US terror watchlist until 2008 or so before he was removed. This was several years after he was president of South Africa, indicating the US still considered him a terrorist even during his reign as president.

And as for the so-called founding fathers never kidnapping or killing civilians ... do you know what you are saying at all? What Israel is doing today is child's play compared to what the US did. They wiped out entire generations. The natives have even become minor minor minorities today.

George Washington, one of the founding fathers, who Washington DC is named after, was even nicknamed "town destroyer" by the Native Americans because of the genocide after genocide that he committed against them. Get your facts right. We are learned here.

Bwanasaraw:
Has the OP WRITERNIG left his Russian PR job

Congratulations Christian Benteke one of the best header in Premier league but injuries and hard luck ruined his career.

IMEI:
You do know Mandela's ANC had an armed wing right?

Malcolm x is widely revered as a hero of the civil rights movement and the US government that denounced him before, acknowledge him today

Not a single shot was fired in India? Google the Chapekar brothers, Anushilan Samiti (a revolutionary group), the 1946 mutiny of the Royal Indian Navy, the Chittagong armoury raid, the role of the Ghadar Party etc

The point is the founding fathers of America were considered terrorists by the prevalent power of the time

IMEI:
Mandela nko, Gandhi nko, Malcolm x nko, George Washington too was a terrorist according to the British

Infact most of America's founding fathers were terrorists to the British

What's your point?

Lawag3:
The Palestinians themselves have rejected many peace deals.


The Palestinians during the great march of return when protesting that Israel allow Palestinians into what is now israel. Hamas used this as an opportunity to try to breach the fence. That's what made the peaceful protest violent.


And as long as violence happens they will be no free Palestine.

The IDF jailed terrorists who crosses over from the west bank and Gaza to attack jews.


Do you want to know the number of stabing shooting or explosions that have been carried out in Israel since 2005 . That should explain the tens of thousands of Palestinians in Israeli custody.


It doest matter is they did not know a music festival was going on. I have seen the videos of what they did to the festival attendees.


They also attack people in their homes.


The one year old boy was kidnapped from his crib.



Don't try to justify the deeds of Hamas.



They don't want to live side by side with the Jews that was the problem in 1945 that's the problem now.


It's from the river to the sea or nothing.

IMEI:
You claim Hamas has the same ideology as Boko haram, ISIS and alqaeda. I've shown that to be false

You claim they use suicide bombings. Again false

You tried to potray them as it being universally accepted that they're a terrorist group, also false

You're accusing them of kidnapping civilians. Please explain in clear terms what administrative detention is

Also explain why Israel always destroys infrastructure in the West Bank when they go on their raids. Infrastructure like roads, water storages, electricity installations etc isn't that terrorism?

The truth is any violence Palestinians use they learnt it from the israelis

Mille:
Don't cover your stupidity and shame with emojis.

You're notorious for putting out outright lies on this thread. I admire your resolve though. Working hard for that pay despite the shame and humiliation of being busted here many times.