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Appleyard:
Plus some drones are stealthy, making them highly difficult to detect thereby doubling the possibility of realizing the close proximity target we are talking about.

Balogunodua:
Of course, Obeideince40 needs to calm down and agree to this new reality


But then again will it be possible with the Carrier operating far from the shore

Alamkir:
Wait ooo....... Are you deliberately doing this? It's simple now. If 100 or more drones attack a carrier, Even if the drones were detected you can't destroy them all, some are going to hit

DystopianMuse:
Na you epp them steal am. Na. Even after several evidence and lawsuit debunking the stealing whatever. U still dey spew trash for here.

Vic2023:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Appleyard:
It's clear you don't understand the dynamics of submarines and their different designs. Nuclear powered subs are not quieter than Diesel or electric subs just because they are powered by nuclear fuel.

You don't have to type anything just because you have nothing to type.

Nuclear powered subs are more detectable than Diesel and electric powered subs. The infrared signature of a nuclear power plant is detectable in nearly all sea states due to the thermal structure of wave patterns. Close to the ocean floor, the cooling-water intake on SSNs could be prone to collecting contaminants. In contrast, today’s hconventional submarines like the diesel and electric subs are extremely quiet, with very low infrared and magnetic signatures. When powered by Li-ion batteries and AIP
propulsion, those submarines can operate at patrol-quiet state or sit on the seabed for several weeks without surfacing.

The main edge of a Nuclear powered sub over the rest is their ability to dive deeper and remain under water for many months and years if possible, and is great for power projection.

I have come to see that you have a knack for just "type something" even though it's incorrect, lack research, or purely illogical. That's very bad.

Only get involve in topics you're certain you know and adequately researched.

Masterviolence:
The question should be: How many can you detect and destroy before impact.

Vic2023:
as usual 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Masterviolence:
The joke is on you, because the last time i cheacked, not all drones are suicide drones.

Some drones carries missles

sainttwist1:
they will not score any point.....drones are not missiles.


maybe future drones but the current sent of drones.... nothing will happen.

or maybe the drones are launch from close proximity to the carrier group.

Appleyard:
Gad damnit! I said 40 surface ships and 24 submarines. Don't say what I did not say. Go back to the earlier post, please.

Masterviolence:

You still don't get it.
I believe you're not myopic.
I think you obviously lack the cognitive propensity to fathom the subject of discourse.

What Appleyard is saying, is in conjuction with what i told you yesterday.
There's no defensive system that can score a 100% defensive rate when swarmed in close proximity with advance drones.

The reason for the introduction of EWS as a protective layer is to prevent the exhaustion of interceptor missle while simultaneously doing the interception, but this doesn't defect the obstacle of swarming itself.

Appleyard:
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/russias-navy-now-trying-make-ultimate-comeback-208994
Here is a link, and is from a western source..

BentizilL0:
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Alamkir:
I know how you argue that's why I don't engage you for long because I don't have time.
You deliberately left out my main point that Russia help trump Rigg US election and go for the one you can defend. Bye 🫷

Appleyard:
Early detection is one thing, how many drones you can engage simultaneously in a matter of minutes is another thing entirely. It's obvious you're new to this topic.

How many air defense missiles does surface ships carry in their arsenals? By the time they succeed in taking out most of the drones in the swarm, the ships might have run out of interception missiles. In a near peer scenario in the real world, facts have proven that there is no 100% success rate of intercepting a drone swarm from close proximity, especially with advanced drones both at sea and in the air. The Ukraine war should be your eye-opener. The damage the Shaheeds and Lancets have done to Ukraine is there for all to see, and we are talking about a battlefield with one of the most policed and contested air and sea space in modern warfare history. Talk about NATO's "All seeing eye" and OSINT, alongside Ukraine's capable air defenses, which offers a formidable multilayered air coverage for the Ukraine. Still, Mr Lancet and Sultan Shaheed always find their way to their targets.

Citing Iranian drone attack on Israel is a weak argument. A coalition of countries had to come together to help intercept those drones that were flying from 1200 km from their launch sites in Iran, giving Israel many hours of a heads-up ahead. In fact, it would have been a complete failure on Israel and the coalition part had they failed to take down the drones because, not only do they have the quantity of the right interception assets but many hours ahead to prepare. Moreover, the long distance and the single flight path they were flying gave the coalition a predictable and one-way flight path to map and take them out. But take the Hezbollah scenario for instance, many of their drones have caused and still causing havoc in Israel as we speak. Even the US you're talking about is now developing their own drone swarm capability, with the "protection" of Taiwan in mind. If it doesn't and won't work, why venture into it. It works and could cause serious damage to any country' surface ships no matter the strength of that country. Ukrainian drones both at sea and air based have recorded some success against Russia's sea based military and civilian assets, despite the Russian formidable defense and EW capabilities.

Take it or leave it, drone and AI driven missile capabilities are the Hallmark of current and future of modern conventional warfare.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
USA and Israel can't attack Iran directly. They can strike Iranian affiliates in Syria, Iraq, Gaza, Yemen, or Lebanon. So far Iran don't miscalculate by attacking Israel or USA. Iran🇮🇷 is a member of Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO)

Alamkir:
Be honest for once, it wasn't us Nigerians that concluded that US election was stolen, it was the Americans themselves. When Trump won democrats accused Russia of helping trump to manipulate the election, the same thing happened when ancestor Joe won. Nigeria's election rigging is just gra gra, using violence and very obvious means to Rigg elections, but US are expert in systematic rigging of election

Regex:
You also forgot that Iran is among the Sco pact. A military alliance like Nato but unlike nato it has heavyweights like Russia, China and India to say the least. So if USA gets involved, those big boys will be involved and honestly, that war will be on Israel territory and not Iran.

Vic2023:
don't derail the post as usual!

WriteerNg:
If Trump doesn't win there might be a civil war.



Something tells me they would never let the last election that was stolen repeat itself.

Masterviolence:

The word "IF" is where ideas are born.

I know many of you here don't comment your ideas only what others think are the subject matter.
The explanation of how that weapon will work is well detailed for a 5years old to understand.
Has it been created yet? Nobody knows
Has it been used yet? No
Is it feasible? Yes (highly)

Crixus13:
You should, you tool

Masterviolence:

I'm talking about an Hybrid system and this on is talking about diesel.

How can a tesla that's charged by a portable electricity generator make more noise when driving on it batteries than a V12 ferrari F50.

How did I end up conversing with this kind of people.

Masterviolence:
Yes.
I modified it because i once typed this only for me to mistakenly click on something else and the whole write-up was deleted. I don't know if NL can work on this, it's frustrating.

Back to you.
Diesel-electric submarines are more stealther than nuclear powered submarines.

Let not act as expert on this field.
Diesel-electric subs are more stealther than nuclear sub, the only down size are it rage. Due to it being powered my batteries, they move more stealthy but when the batteries are out of power, the disadvantage in rage comes into play.
The diesel engine will be turned on to charge up this batteries either by surfacing or using a snorkel, but this engine produces more noise than a nuclear powered submarine.
The longest recorded time of a diesel electric submarine recorded underwater without the use of the diesel engine for charging is 14 days.

In this time frame, a diesel electric submarine is more stealther than a nuclear powered submarine.
If not for this limitation, a diesel electric would've been way better than a nuclear powered submarine.

I hope you learnt something today?

nigeriansamurai:
Always jumping from pillar to post you where talking as if the soviets had no nuclear subs now you want to lecture me🥲🥲.
I'm sorry for even replying you. My bad.

nigeriansamurai:
you don't even know that the Soviet union had nuclear subs.😂😂😂😂

WriteerNg:
What a fvcking clown 🤡

How can it be a fake story when 2 - 3 Boeing whistleblowers are already dead for fvck sake!?

And now the CEO comes out to tell the whole world that they've retaliated against all other whistleblowers.

What other proof does one need?

Masterviolence:

Quit your sarcasm.

People like you in the year 2000 will claim that drones are nothing in front of tanks and machine guns, but today, reality bites harder than a crocodile.

Masterviolence:

Appleyard, you just reminded me of this stupid comment from an ignoramus.

Between Mr Gazprom and this guy, i don't know who's the best at falsifying stats to suit his narrative.
Lets say the west gave you the life that you're currently living, but being able to designate between right from wrong or between good and evil doesn't make you less of a human.

In the last ten years russia has commissioned 9 nuclear submarines.
4 Yesen-class nuclear submarines.
5 Borei-class nuclear submarines.

Yesen-class nuclear submarines.
1. K-560 Severodvinsk project: 885
Commission date: 17 June 2014
Status: Active

2. K-561 Kazan project: 885M
Commission date: 5 May 2021
Status: Active

3. K-573 Novosibirsk project: 885M
Commission date: 21 December 2021
Status: Active

4. K-571 Krasnoyarsk project: 885M
Commission date: 11 December 2023
Status: Active

Notable mention:
5. K-564 Arkhangelsk project: 885M Commission date: Before the end of 2024
Status: Floated

There are currently 4 yesen-class nuclear submarines under constrution.

Borei-class nuclear submarines
1. K-551 Vladimir Monomakh project: 955
Commission date: 19 December 2014
Statu: Active

2. K-549 Knyaz Vladimir project: 955А
Commission date: 12 June 2020
Status: Active

3. K-552 Knyaz Oleg project: 955А
Commission date: 21 December 2021
Status: Active

4. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov. Project:955А
Commision date: 29 December 2022
Status: Active

5. K-554 Imperator Aleksandr lll project: 955А
Commission date: 11 December 2023 Status: Active

Notable mention:
6. K-555 Knyaz Pozharskiy. project: 955А
Commission date: Before the end of 2024
Status: Launched

There are currently 2 Borei-class submarines underconstruction.

Putin signed a degree some years ago to increase and modernize the russian navy and i believe what they're doing is to build and commission every weapon on their inventory even of it is 2units yearly.
That being said, russia has commissioned over a dozen diesel-electric submarines like the kilo-class submarines which are more stealther than nuclear submarines but their only downside is rage.

I pray one day you find redemption.

WriteerNg:
Don't mind the fool.


He thinks he's talking to fools like himself.


This year alone I've posted 3 new Nuclear submarines and 5 new ships commissioned by Russia.

I can't even count the number of newly commissioned Russian submarines and ships I posted last year.

Masterviolence:
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Appleyard, you just reminded me of this stupid comment from an ignoramus.

Between Mr Gazprom and this guy, i don't know who's the best at falsifying stats to suit his narrative.
Lets say the west gave you the life that you're currently living, but being able to designate between right from wrong or between good and evil doesn't make you less of a human.

In the last ten years russia has commissioned 9 nuclear submarines.
4 Yesen-class nuclear submarines.
5 Borei-class nuclear submarines.

Yesen-class nuclear submarines.
1. K-560 Severodvinsk project: 885
Commission date: 17 June 2014
Status: Active

2. K-561 Kazan project: 885M
Commission date: 5 May 2021
Status: Active

3. K-573 Novosibirsk project: 885M
Commission date: 21 December 2021
Status: Active

4. K-571 Krasnoyarsk project: 885M
Commission date: 11 December 2023
Status: Active

Notable mention:
5. K-564 Arkhangelsk project: 885M Commission date: Before the end of 2024
Status: Floated

There are currently 4 yesen-class nuclear submarines under constrution.

Borei-class nuclear submarines
1. K-551 Vladimir Monomakh project: 955
Commission date: 19 December 2014
Statu: Active

2. K-549 Knyaz Vladimir project: 955А
Commission date: 12 June 2020
Status: Active

3. K-552 Knyaz Oleg project: 955А
Commission date: 21 December 2021
Status: Active

4. K-553 Generalissimus Suvorov. Project:955А
Commision date: 29 December 2022
Status: Active

5. K-554 Imperator Aleksandr lll project: 955А
Commission date: 11 December 2023 Status: Active

Notable mention:
6. K-555 Knyaz Pozharskiy. project: 955А
Commission date: Before the end of 2024
Status: Launched

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