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Compromise please

So they can weed out party members who were not loyal to the Tinubu side.

E.g El Rufai son

It was not war during Bubu's era?

So now, we fit "chop statistics" abi?

If you car is registered with a plate number, then there is no need to register you tint seperately.

If any car is found to be used to commit a crime, just look up the owner of the car through their plate number.

First consider youe spouse a friend before a partner. If you cant be friends, you cant be partners.

In short, marry your bestfriend.

Gerrard59:
The Netherlands grow more food and is more productive than every country in Africa, yet has fewer hands working on its farms. More hands and legs on the farm do not equate to higher productivity.

True true. But....

90% of nigerian farming is not mechanized.

Countries with declining populations are turning to immigration to keep the economies from declining.

My point is that A large Population should not be discouraged. It is an asset to any country that wants to develop. Harnessing that population size to make them productive is upto govt policy

emmaodet:
There is govt inaction and there is the citizens inaction too.

Agreed, the govt failed us and is that why we should also fail ourselves? at our own end?
Moreover, if we agree the govt is bad, is that not a point we need to factor into our decision making?
I know the govt is bad, won't sponsor or support me yet i still go ahead in birthing more kids that will even cause more problems for me, what do you think about thi? is it proper?
There is no way a govt will deal with crime when the populace are creating more problems. At a point, it will overwhelm the govt which is what we are seeing now.
Govt is not God. The don't have absolute power. They have limitations both in resources and manpower.
No matter how they cub it, if more criminals ar ebeen produced, it will overshadow the govt efforts.
Also, that they can herd cows and make little money from it in diginity doesn't mean it is good enough.
So a man who herd cows all his life and made meagre and then his children continued on that same path because the man never had resources to give them better or they become ma'guards or shoe makers in towns doesn't make the system any better.
With 2 kids and one wife, you are sacrificing your self-comfort for the betterment of the family's future.
Instead of the continues trend, you will start having something like -
My greatgrand father was a farmer/cow hearde/hunter/fisherman but trained his 2 kids (your own grandfathers) who later became teachers who also trained their kids (your immediate parents) who later became doctors/lawyers and now you (current generations) are now pilots/oil and gas workers etc
Do you notice the trend?

Good point you made! I agree these issues cant be looked at in isolation. Govt and citizen inaction

Identifying him publicly may put the kidnap victim at risk.

emmaodet:
But the displacement is majorly caused by having too many kids that can't be trained and are all now ripe to take up arms to displace them.
Many of those husa/fulanis into farming and cattle herding are not interested in it anymore because what they will make in their life time can be made in just kidnapping and collecting ransom within a week or a month.
A boy left to rot in the street who is now working for alhaji taking his 50 cows around and only comes home toeat in the morning and night for 20 years after which he is settled with his own 5 cows to start his life.
Now imagine the same person been introduced to a kidnapping gang and after 1 operation gets 5m, do you think such a person will go back to cow herding or farming?
And they have so so so many untrained children who are jostling to be the next terrorists, rebels, kidnappers, cow rustlers etc

Yes yes.

But this is us now trying to make excuses for the government's inaction.

If the govt deals decisively with crime (including kidnapping mentioned above), then these kids wont see it as an option, and would make themselves more useful economically. Yes they make less money roaming around with cows, but they still make a living from it, and when the cows are sold, it adds to the productivity of our economy

emmaodet:
You can't solve a problem when those causing the problems will gladly add more even if you are trying to solve it.
We will always get back to this junction.

Okay, let's look it this way.
Let's assume for a moment the govt is good and doing things right - electricity, good roads, train, hospitals and schools.
What do you think will happen?
The THANK YOU the govt will get from these people is going to even be more wives - to more kids - back to our initial junction - more problems.
And we will be here referencing the old good action of the govt that afterall, past govt did it right and fed everyone, therefore the current one has no excuse than to find a way to do it too.
We will always come back to this junction.
The bitter truth is that population growth as to slow down drastically.

A man earning 300k who decided to marry 2 wives and have 5 kids will continue to struggle even if his income or salary is increasing by 100k every 5 years years while he keeps giving birth to extra kids every 2 years.
No matter what he does, he will always struggle compared to keeping just 1 wife and 2 kids while the salary keeps increasing by 100k every 5 years

Fair point you made.

But i dont think we are the first country in the world with people having many kids. I dont think forcing people to have less kids is the solution. If opportunities are created for all (even through farming), then those MANY kids would be an asset to the country's economy.

TONYE001:
I also get your position, but see...

Consider these two terms...

Children of the street and children in the street. Please, look them up - if you are not familiar with them.

Do a study of the profiles of criminals around...locally and internationally. You'd find a recurring decimal - absent/suboptimal parenting. More specifically, in our environment, you'd find that most of them are those whose parents abandoned, or those who did not receive adequate parental care.

People have needs, once these needs are not met, and in the absence of a good moral structure, people would look for alternative pathways to get their needs fixed, whether legal or not. Older children (adolescents, teenagers) and adults with no skills, no education, no/poor support easily flood the streets and perpetrate crime.

This has been a constant.

So, what's my take? Insecurity is a problem, yes, but this problem is fed/worsened/maintained by the continuous production of children beyond the immediate capacities of their parents....that is, children that will spill into the streets to "do anything to survive."

These kids flood the streets to beg for alms, and those that have access to weapons/sponsors easily dive into crime.

Yes bro. Your last two paragraphs are spot on and i respect your opinion

Yes i agree we have a problem with people having more kids than they can cater for. My point is that a larger proportion of these people we see begging on the streets are people displaced by war. If they were never displaced, then they would have been more useful to themselves some way (most especially farming) and not be easily recruited to crime.

emmaodet:
But insecurity is constantly fueled by having too many kids you can't cater for, right?
So it is a circle

Yes it is the fuel.

But not what started it. If insecurity was and is dealt with decisively, these guys would not resort to terrorism.

A country having a big population is not a bad thing. There would always be the poor and rich. Making policies to increase the productivity of the population is the bigger question.

emmaodet:
Are you really serious about this statement? that a man who can't take care of his 17 children is good for the country? because of cheap farm labours?
Omoh.......i think it is high time i need to hustle visa for my kids not to stay in this kind of enviroment.
What happens to having lesser kids like 2, well trained so that rather than working labourously in the farm for token, they can have the resources to get good eductaion for mechanized farming and earn better.
What 17 kids will do in a month, a well trained good earning tractor driver will do in a day or 2.
DOn't you think this is better?

Over 90% of farming in nigeria is not mechanized. Ask yourself, were these guys not having 17 children for many years before terrorism and insecurity started?

I still think the bigger issue is the displacements caused by this insecurity we face.

InyinyaAgbaOku:
This is the age of mechanised farming please

Most farming in the north is largely not mechanized

uvie66:
....and where do you see the children being inculcated into ISWAP, BOKO HARAM, FULANI KIDNAPPERS AND BANDITRY?

..

Children displaced because of the crisis.

They have nothing else to turn to. The insecurity leads to displacement of people from their lands, and in turn feeds recruits to terrorism

TONYE001:
Your position is entirely wrong.

Good for the country? How? Who would feed them? When they can't afford basic life, where do they turn to? How do standardized societies provide labour?

Why on God's earth would a man earning N60k have three wives and 15 children, or more?

Illiteracy, poverty, terrorism, banditry, etc...why do you think they thrive more up north?

I understand where you are coming from bro.

But these guys having 17 children is not a new thing. They have been existing many years in their part of the country, happy and living fulfilled lives mainly through farming. They never needed a lot of money to live good lives.

Insecurity displaced many of them and then they do not have any other option than to turn to begging or crime.

I still stand that insecurity is the bigger proble.

Godfullsam:
Federal secretariat ?

I don't know of any place around federal secretariat that can house NRS.

Beside Abia house

Yampotatocarrot:
NRC been doing a great work in the Lagos axis, really great work

If they'll hear, we need one more train for the Lagos -Ibadan route... People have to book ahead of time just to meet up, infact for weekends, you have to book your trip two days ahead else e don full

Then, there's need for aggressive publicity... If more people know about the route, it'll definitely reduce the number using road

Kudos to the management of the Agege train station, great customer service, clean compound, very clean toilet, security is topnotch and they've not allowed those traders filter into the compound

NRS - Nigeria Revenue Service
NRC - nigeria railway corporation

Godfullsam:
Where is the new corporate headquarters located in Abuja. What happened to the massive headquarters in sokode street zone 5 Abuja?

Abi na the same headquarters balablu rebrand?

I think that location was rented all along. Or, they may just use it for something else.

This new location is located close to Federal secretariat

Nah nah

Those people you see begging on the roads in Abuja are mostly people displaced from conflict zones. They usually have nowhere else to go. Hence, they come to the most lucrative part of the country for begging.

Insecurity is the bigger problem.

Actually the man having 17 children is good for the country. Where do you think the labor comes from to cultivate lands in the north to grow the food we all desperately need?

How was the counting done

Result of things being done hastily.

Tax laws affect many citizens and should have been considered and reviewed very carefully

This matter is one very very big DISTRACTION

Blessing CEO matter too

I think he always pays for those his media sessions. I hear a lot of money too.

Will the TV stations pass up on that kind of money because Seun was threatened? I dont think so.

Its starting to look like a one candidate presidential election.

Probably what these governors saw that made them run to apc

This isnt really good for our democracy.

This happens in many other african countries where opposition is constantly put in disarray or disqualified from contesting

Fearyourcreator:
Na their house he for go sleep nah

Lool

damoobaba:
He doesnt think like you or any of your family members and thats why he has gone so far in life. His visit to plateau was PROMPT and plans are already on the way to ensure community leaders come to Abuja to find LASTING SOLUTIONS to the conflict.

A man that 32 state Governors joined his political party IS NOT ORDINARY, learnt and become great instead of just expecting to vote a president that will make manna to fall from heaven.

But he left Jos that same day and went straight to Lagos for Easter lol

He interacted, consoled and listened to the victims all within 10 minutes. Isnt that wonderfulll?

If the day was too tight to visit the victims, why not reschedule to the next day to have ample time?

Too many questions jare

Incase you missed it,

Pres Tinubu quietly bought another jet. A bombardier global 7500. Registered 5N FGY. Same jet in the video.

Online sources say this jet costs around 75 million dollars.

This is in addition to other similar jets on the fleet. Gulfstream Dassualt 7X, etc.

After purchasing a jet for 150 million dollars when he came into office, why is he purchasing another one? Also, why was this expense not stated in the budget?

Why dont women generally like each other?

Maybe we should also ban all politicians because we have some who are corrupt.

Government and their lazy approach to solving problems