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[b] Hellfire—Is It Part of Divine Justice?
Have you ever seen someone tortured? We hope not. Deliberate torture is sickening and abhorrent. What, though, of torture inflicted by God? Can you imagine such a thing? Yet, this is exactly what is implied by the teaching of hellfire, an official doctrine in many religions.

Imagine, for a moment, the following horrific scene: A person is being roasted on a hot iron plate. In his agony he screams for mercy, but nobody listens. The torture goes on and on, hour after hour, day after day—without pause!

Whatever crime the victim may have committed, would not your heart go out to him? What of the one who ordered the torture? Could he be a loving person? In no way! Love is merciful and shows pity. A loving father may punish his children, but he would never torture them!

Nevertheless, many religions teach that God tortures sinners in an eternal hellfire. This, it is claimed, is divine justice. If that is true, who created that terrible place of eternal torment? And who is responsible for the excruciating agonies inflicted there? The answers would seem obvious. If such a place really exists, then God would have to be the creator of it, and he would be responsible for what happens there.

Can you accept that? The Bible* says: “God is love.” (1 John 4 vs eight ) Would a God of love inflict torture that even humans with any measure of decency find revolting? Surely not!

An Unreasonable Teaching
Still, many believe that the wicked will go to a fiery hell and be tormented forever. Is this teaching logical? The human life span is limited to 70 or 80 years. Even if someone perpetrated extreme wickedness for his whole lifetime, would everlasting torment be a just punishment? No. It would be grossly unjust to torment a man forever for the limited number of sins that he can commit in a lifetime.

It doesn't sound logical to you and to all JW but it is the truth of God's word. God is love but also a consuming fire Hebrew 11: 29. I will rather believe what the scripture teaches through the mouth of Jesus himself than hang my fate for eternity on Logic. Luke 12:5-6 'But i will show you whom you should fear, fear Him who after He has killed, has power to cast into Hell, yes I said to you, fear Him. Jesus know who God-His father is, so He warn all to Fear Him. I'll rather believe Jesus than your logic. Mark 9: 43-48


Who knows the truth about what happens after we die? Only God can reveal this information, and he has done so in his written Word, the Bible, referred to above. Here is what the Bible says: “As the [beast] dies, so the [man] dies; and they all have but one spirit . . . All are going to one place. They have all come to be from the dust, and they are all returning to the dust.” (Ecclesiastes 3:19, 20) There is no mention here of a fiery hell. Humans return to dust—to nonexistence—when they die.

The Bible is Very clear on what happens after death. God is the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob. These Heroes of our Faith are living in Heaven, not dead. Moses and Elijah, appeared physically to Jesus on the Mount of transfiguration.Mathew 17:1-5

In order to be tormented, an individual has to be conscious. Are the dead conscious? No. “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all, neither do they anymore have wages, because the remembrance of them has been forgotten.” (Ecclesiastes 9:5) It is impossible for the dead, “conscious of nothing at all,” to experience the agonies of hellfire.

The Writer of Ecclesiastes was talking about the Physical body after death. It is useless, not conscious of anything but the Soul after death lives on for Eternity either in Heaven or Hell. Hear what Jesus Said John 11:25 'Iam the resurrection and life. He who believe in me, though he may die, he shall live.

A Harmful Doctrine
Some maintain that the teaching of hellfire is useful, true or not. Why? They say it serves as a deterrent to wrongdoing. Is that true? Well, is the crime rate in regions where people believe in hellfire lower than in other places? Hardly! In fact, the doctrine of hellfire is very harmful. Will a person who believes that God torments people view torture as something abhorrent? Why should he? Those believing in a cruel god often become cruel like their god.

Hell was not created for Man but for Satan but if Man choose to follow Satan in disobedience to his Maker, he will end up with Satan. The only harmful teaching is this write-up, meant to deceive people to reject Jesus and end up in Hell. The only thing the op should be assured of is Hebrew 9: 27 'it is appointed Unto Man Once to die, after that Judgement'. I beg you to give your life to Jesus if not, You will surely end up in Hellfire

In whatever way a reasonable person may look at the matter, he cannot accept the existence of a hell of torment. Logic rebels against it. Human nature is repelled by it. More important, God’s Word does not say that such a place exists. When a person dies, “he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.”—Psalm 146:4.

Keep being reasonable and logical, I dont have more to tell you.

What Punishment for Sin?
[/b] To read more, visit www.jw.org and you find satisfactory answers just as I did

MzJackBaueress: when a pastor's plane is used to buy illegal arms and carry raw cash,then something is wrong. David Oyedepo has 4 private jets but he wouldn't use his planes for illegal activities. Can you now see the difference?

kimond101: You don't need to be sorry sir. The truth stands clearly from falsehood. Every child was born in a pure state to worship God alone without associating partners in worship with him. The family you get born into converts you into whatever believe you may have today (Hindu,Judaism,Christianity etc).
The God of Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Noah, Joseph, Isaac, John the Baptist, Solomon, Jesus, Mohammed is ONE. He does not have partners in his dominion. He is not a man and neither does he sleep nor slumber. He creates and Wasn't created. He gives life and gives death to whoever he please. The God of Jesus is who I worship as a muslim. And that is why you can never be a muslim if you don't believe in Jesus and his teachings. But a muslim does not worship Jesus like christians do because Jesus is a creation of God as I have explained above. While the God of the universe remains uncreated. There is more to life than that which meets the eyes. That is why God has blessed the fortunate ones amongst we humans to be able to use our intellect to know who our creator is. God is One. Worship him alone! That is the straight path.

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CityNG: Apologies ahead but you have to dig deep, and I mean real deep, to find Nigerians with a conscience.

Controversial statement sure but ponder it for a minute.

Who was the last Nigerian that you dealt with that you feel had a conscience deep down.

Xcapist: A really long read. But there were points that got me really laughing (not in a patronising way, they were genuinely funny).
I have a question though, can Jesus save us from this alleged place of anguish and gnashing of teeth?

BRAV0O: Is it normal ?