European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:54pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: Lol... He might not have one goal in that match, but that doesn't mean he didn't score Chile in friendly or qualifiers.
Now like I said, it's not about how important the goals scored or not, but does he score goals.
Scoring goals for trophy winning is another point entirely.
But consistently, does he score goals... I'll say yes he does We would never know. But the fact is I'm not just talking from ability standpoint. I'm talking also from the view of environmental conditions. Well... |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:40pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
randomperson: Which nonsense case are you resting?
Epl talents don't win the ballon d'or often because they are not as good as their counterparts in La liga. Of all the GOAT candidates in recent times, only CR7 and perhaps Henry have played in the premier league. And even them, they moved to the superior league at last.
Zidane, R9, Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Ronaldinho have all played in la liga No be fight na. Make I no rest this case again. Okay. I'll continue later. Make I go gather points. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:39pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Leyqute: Nice points. But is 30+ EPL goals the same as 30+ La Liga goals? Nice question. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:38pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
randomperson: Lol... baseless excuses.
He destroyed your best teams but he will struggle against your crap teams? Where is your logic in all this?
Which of your EPL teams has been as good as real madrid that was constantly destroyed by messi. I hear you sir. He destroyed us. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:37pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: you seem to forget Chile won them back to back in FINALS.
And all sef was pks if I'm not mistaken Where was that one goal he would have brought out of his multitude of goals? Why did it not come out those times? Against Chile and Germany. I'm just trying to tell you that you don't determine your environment. Your environment determine how you'll turn out to be. The best you can do is to leave. When I look back, as someone who once loved Ronaldo, I'll say he made the right choice. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:31pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: what I mean by free scoring team was e.g, your team of Ferguson days, man city team and all.
Not team like Chelsea mou or small teams.
Every great players need big teams to shine consistently.
Well... It's no p sha. Let's disagree to agree as you opined Yes boss. We would never know. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:29pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:28pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
randomperson: Many EPL teams presently are stacked with good players. Liverpool, Chelsea, Manchester city and even Tottenham, put prime Messi in any of them and he will score 40 goals a season consistently...
Someone has scored 26 goals against your best teams and you think he will struggle against Sheffield United and co?? Be logical for once abeg The thing you don't get is odds. There is a reason betting companies put odds. Was prime Messi playing alone? Was the prime Messi not in the Argentine team when Chille won them back to back? League is different from cup games. EPL is not favourable. The odds are much. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:17pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
afrodoc2: So because he feeds the poor he should live in face me i face you? Or you want him to use all his money to feed the poor so he can join the poor? Well, I did not say so. I was only bringing out the point of context and media narrative. I never sided with daily mail. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:15pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: love this point
We are talking about the same Messi that complains about the recruitment of top class players because they can't plate Messi-ball
A player that walked out on Argentina because he feels he is bigger than them.
May I hear say Messi no frustrate for EPL
When he plays like FA, EFL, UCL, EPL even if he doesn't get tired, when half of his team mates are tired, Messi will frustrate.
Where will he find tiki taka, does Pep play that anymore.
In la liga you will still find teams that want to play ball. In EPL na EPL money does club dey think about. Highest Messi would have would be 3 good season and one off one or two self, be it injuries of prolonged fatigued.
Messi is being coach by an ex EPL manager he is barely hitting the target let's not mention scoring. The moment Barca plays like an EPL team small, you see Messi goes misses.
Messi will do well but not that well. These are the things. We think EPL talents are not worthy of Ballon d'Or? The conditions are not very favourable and coaches have complained about it. And that's just one. What about the tiki taka system? Woo. I rest my case. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:12pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: he might stat pad, fine. After all, Kane 29 goals na stat padding cos he didn't win any trophy with it.
Scoring goals whether it matters most or not is another equation entirely.
The koko be say... Will messi score 30+ goals in EPL at his peak?
The answer is 99% yes. I gave him two 30+ You know this thing but you no won gree  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:10pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: Lol... This is the issue.
Kane haven't won any trophy but he's scored 20+ goals in 4 season in at least 6seasons he's been at Tottenham.
The issue is not the trophy, but will messi score 30goals in EPL? In a free scoring EPL team, then yes.
And winning trophy is more than a player power Which one is that free scoring EPL team? My point is not about the trophy. But replicating those goals that brought the trophies in an international stage. You feel it's about the player. And I'm not even talking about who is goat or chicken. There are factors that bring disadvantages to EPL players and coaches like Guardiola and Mourinho have talked about them. Well. I rest my case. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:55pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
nitrogen: Let’s be fair, Messi is very good, but we cannot conclude that he will score 30+ goals consistently in the EPL or any other league because he has not left Barcelona.
No one knows because he has no history in another league! These guys forget the that changing teams is also a factor. There is a reason we rate xavi and iniesta so high. And that's just one factor. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:53pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:49pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Mrviktor: Pogba: "It was a period I hadn't experienced in my career. I was used to playing and having rhythm. Now, I'm getting my sensations back, little by little, I am finding myself back. I have to put in performances like that [like against Portugal], be consistent." #mulive [rtf]
Make Una no dey quote only bad part..
Bruno wey talk way fred no sabi pass ball nko.. Una no airquote that part.. And na Bruno sabi play nonsense pass ...
Let Paul rest.
He was brilliant absolutely brilliant against Portugal.. Azin I saw Pogba chasing Ronaldo.. And winning d ball.. Pogba not sluggish on d ball.. Paul Pogba oh. He didn't play chairman football...
So abeg he has a very solid point.. Things need to change at old Trafford..
Am sure it Giroud gave the same interview he will say the same exact words Pogba said.
If rudiger was in his shoes he will say the same thing. Even Dan James.. D boy dey ball for Wales.
Leave Pogba alone Sometimes you just look these things and let it pass. If you talk they say you are a Pogba fan. Media put it out there recently that Rashford bought two luxury houses yet he claims to feed the poor. If you don't put things into context you follow their narrative. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:47pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: I think this is Kane's 6th season in EPL yet he scored 20+ goals 4 times. Not a bad record at all.
Aguero mostly was an injury prone player, so it's understandable.
And to the answer to your question(the bolded), it is because He is messi. Messi is surely a goal machine, and if Kane can score 29+ goals twice, then messi will surely pass the 30 goal mark cos he rarely goes injured He is Messi yet you are seeing stats that showed his failure to score when it mattered most in international tournaments. Because I'm a pastor I know all the scripture word for word. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:38pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
randomperson: This is a terrible attempt at a rebuttal.
So if he can score that number of goals in champions league games where the stakes are seemingly higher, why wouldn't he score even more in premier league games.
And apart from goals sef, his passing and dribbling nko? Guy, you have no point. You have no point and can't prove he will score above 30 season in season out. You think it's about the player alone? Let him go and win world cup and Copa America na. Playing with an EPL team is different from play against EPL teams from a different league and different conditions. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:35pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 2:56pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
randomperson: Lol... go and check Messi's record against the best premier league teams.
Messi that was bossing el classico when Ramos and Pepe were at their thuggish worst. Salah faced Ramos just once in his best season and got his shoulder dislocated.
When Messi handled the best manager ever in epl, his hand was shaking like he had Parkinson's disease Hope you know cup games are different from league games. You think chelsea would have won the ucl in 2012 if it was in league format? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 2:55pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
thorrvik55: Blatant lie. Boys from supposedly farmer league come to the EPL and turn world beaters..
See Bruno, Ziyech even De Bruyne and Hazard all from farmers league..
If Hazard moved to the premier league after playing in Spanish league (like he played while at Chelsea), u guys would have turned the narrative to it's because of how hard the EPL is that's why he's been poor. Ogbeni. You will just rush into conversations without reading. I go soon beat you one day. I said he will do well. But will not score more than 2 30+ goals. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 2:32pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: Lol.... It depends on the team. A peak messi in man city (under Mancini or pellegrini), wouldn't need xavi or iniesta to be shattering goals.
Messi is almost an all rounder, goals, assist interplay, chance creation. Like I said, after all, Kane was scoring goals week in week out.
Messi is that good bro!! You are talking as if Kane was scoring close to 30 every season. Kane has scored 20+ 4 times. 21, 25, 29, 30. As deadly as Aguero is and was, his highest was 26 in that same Mancity. So how are you so certain his country man will score 30+ without stress. THIS IS EPL! No respecter of person. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 2:22pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:56pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: You've forgotten that messi is one of the most fittest player in the world. You've forgotten that messi and Ronaldo are two players whom fatigue rarely affects? EPL tight, yet Kane is scoring over 20+ goals consecutively season in season out even with champions league commitments, yet na messi go find am hard to score 30goals, . Lol.
Even if you talked about more teams parking the bus, but if you check statistically, messi scores many goals against athletico(a team known to park bus in laliga), how then do you think he won't cope?
At least I can look at salah and see that salah scored over 30 goals in the league only, na peak messi wey better pass peak salah 10x go struggle to score 30goals a season?
Come on bro!!! From 2007 to 2009, how many times did Ronaldo score more than 20 goals. This thing is more than your ability, brother. Will he bring Xavi and Iniesta and the Tiki Taka crew to do it? After Salah scored 32, how many did he score the next season? This is EPL. No respecter of man when it comes to the league. In cup games you can do what you like. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 10:06am On Nov 16, 2020 |
Jodera: lol... As long as he's not at wolves or westbrom or any midtable team.. He'll surely score 35goals in league ALONE So you think. EPL is tight. Now I am not saying it's the all and all of all leagues. The league drains players. Tight fixtures and little concern about about European fixtures. Lastly, some teams are hell bent on frustrating a you. They don't want to go anywhere but they they will frustrate you. Check am na. Check goals chart for the last 20 years. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 9:00am On Nov 16, 2020 |
Expert17: IF IF IF no dey football. Yeah. IF no still dey national team too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 8:04am On Nov 16, 2020 |
EPL wen no care if you get champions League. You go must play EPL match. And they mostly use UCL performance to decide Ballon d'Or. You think say Ronaldo no think am well before he run? Baba say if I stay here this guy go give me gap o.  |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:57am On Nov 16, 2020 |
odizeey: Una dey shout Messi. Messi. Yes he would have played well but if he had come to the EPL when Ronaldo went to la Liga. Ronaldo for don win like 10 Ballon d'Or now.
Barcelona fits him. If Messi score 35 goals for EPL. E no go pass two times. Wetyn be 35. 30 sef. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 7:56am On Nov 16, 2020*. Modified: 2:09pm On Nov 16, 2020 |
Una dey shout Messi. Messi. Yes he would have played well but if he had come to the EPL when Ronaldo went to la Liga, Ronaldo for don win like 10 Ballon d'Or now.
Barcelona fits him. If Messi score 35 goals for EPL. E no go pass two times. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:02pm On Nov 15, 2020 |
KingAlabi: Rabiot is low key a good baller oh
WTF is doing wasting on the bench at Juventus
Modified: he is a confirm starter , I for say Rabiot dey ball. The guy good for game too. The guy Sabi. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 6:21am On Nov 15, 2020 |
thorrvik55: U say balling?? Shey na skipping them dey do for field? When Kante was subbed in a world cup final you did not show us whoscored o
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 10:01pm On Nov 14, 2020 |
Pogba no fit head ball well. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 9:56pm On Nov 14, 2020 |
Ngolo |