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CaptainPrice1:
They usually call Ibadan brown roof city, but many of them don't know that Ibadan is one among the fastest developing state in Nigeria. If you have money for real estate, It's advisable to go to Ibadan or Abeokuta. IMO! Aerodrome estate is the most expensive place in Ibadan.

I think Alalubosa GRA beats Aerodrome,sir.
Have personally been to the two.
Alalubosa has some of the choicest modern houses in Nigeria and it has the most expensive land after Lagos and Abuja.

AlphaLover:
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Guy you are just talking nonsense

Show us the facts let them show the numerous countless ones we read here and on LIB daily of yoruba incest

Mind you I am not from southeast but I just don't like hypocrisy

As regards ritual killing the yoruba are the undisputed Champions to argue shows foolishness

You mentioned one shrine okija we read from their mud region years ago but daily we see ritual killings from all over the southwest either boy friend is killing girlfriend or boy friend used wife for rituals or alfa caught with human parts so leave that one .. you can still argue other things like fraud which you will still fail yoruba are the most fraudulent tribe in this nation

Yahoo is your main business . Who brought yahoo to my state (Edo state) and Nigeria as a whole nor be una?

See oga go siddon

Even ritualism is smelling from your moniker,OSU man.
Great ritualism is daily perpetrated by Igbos in Igbos-only-certified baby factories all over Nigeria.The remains of the babies are eaten by professionals in the art of cannies.
Name any criminality and an Igbo face pops up even baby selling.

Rossintii:
Do the damn research yourself. You no get brain?

Nothing as such,sir.

Rossintii:
Are you saying he's lying or something?

You think all Nigerians are useless like you?

What is his name and the hospital,sir?

TAO11:
I know you just deactivated this account as you always do, but hold this in the meantime while I make time to get back to your criminal brother, Etinosa — aka, ayoola27.

Liar! No where does the above 1948 video documentary say that the Ooni of Ife is not a king but a priest. Neither was he introduced as priest.

You’re just simply being yourself — a fugly liar!!

Rather, the video states at timestamp 0:14 and I quote here below:

“The Ooni of Ife, spiritual leader of over three million Nigerian tribesmen, was one of the important arrivals”.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=989866004541431

And that is accurate because all Yoruba kings (that is, including the Benin monarch) are considered in, Yoruba religious belief, to be demi-deities — ikeji-õṣà.

Since the Ooni of Ife is the leader of all the monarchs of Yorubaland, this fact thus rightfully makes him the spiritual leader of all Yorubas (and Binis).

Notice that this 1948 meeting which held in Lancaster house and entitled “The African Conference in London” had the Ooni of Ife representing Nigeria in his capacity as leader of the south-west ‘tribes’ — which included the Binis among others.

This leader of the then south-west ‘tribes’ was not deemed to be the Alaafin Oyo, nor was it deemed to be the Omonoba n’Edo, but rather the Ooni Ife.

Note that he wasn’t yet honored as a British knight at the time. Neither was he yet a Governor at the time. He simply represented Nigeria in his capacity as a tribe leader — a tribe which included the Binis.


In addition to the above 1948 documentary, the attached pages below are from a 1903 publication entitled “Native Crowns”.

These attached pages from the paper shows the published summary of a proceeding in which the Ooni of Ife was clearly and rightfully identified as the leading monarch for all of Yorubaland.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915204_3bb91d9be2ea45c5afd3f41e88728f3e_jpeg_jpeg645a15f18177fc5fe10c58c7cc98cb9c
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915205_d21b9942ec6b49db8268dddb52125c5d_jpeg_jpeg5b7a9464bca8be76b7a6cbdd30d76898
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915206_ea1bb7bbeb514c029bf799998b655ca3_jpeg_jpeg94b9f98f3c978fcbb8823afc65a47cbc

~ The Editor, “Native Crowns,” Journal of the Royal African Society, April 1903, Vol. 2, No. 7, Oxford University Press.

I am pleased to always rubbish you all over Nairaland.

Cheers!

You defend and attack like a real Yoruba warrior and Yorubas have a lot of warriors I must say.
One of them was Ogedengbe that the Oba of Benin always trembled when he heard his footsteps... he always appeased Ogedengbe with different gifts.

lol

Ask him the name of the hospital and name of the man and he will begin to look at his feet..

I need to go now, i'm really too late for my work.

You better go to work because you are just wasting your time as a landgrabber.

Landgrabbers like you and your likes will wail until eternity.
You can only wail on the internet.

Did you mean to quote me or him , he didn't post any map, i did.
Anyways, I can't bring dead people (the eye-witnesses) back to life, only God can.
Do you have any other stupid demand ?

Thank God, everyone knows their history and heritage.

Just as we know, our children, grand children and great grand children must also know.


Thief Oleeeeeeeeeeee, land grabbers.

Come and grab Lagos na.

Bring out the eye withneess that drew your trashy map. We will bring our eye withness that was present during the time the Yoruba people keep stopping the oba slaves from trading in Lagos.

nocomment4:
Nice science fiction guys. Your gbendegbe whatever was one great superhero.
Benin which later fought britian and had won every wars it had ever fought and had an organized society and was an empire, was somehow afraid of your super magical hero.

the british themselves claimed that Benin terrified everybody in the region. But I guess that yoruba super magical hero was so super magical.

Have you heard about Fon of Dahomey and what they did to the whites but Egba defeated them four times.

Which wars did Benin fight compared to the Oyo Empire?

gregyboy:
You're just a troll

I like this.It is for landgrabbers....

Thank God, everyone knows their history and heritage.

Just as we know, our children, grand children and great grand children must also know.


Thief Oleeeeeeeeeeee, land grabbers.

Come and grab Lagos na.

Bring out the eye withneess that drew your trashy map. We will bring our eye withness that was present during the time the Yoruba people keep stopping the oba slaves from trading in Lagos.


My take is that the only thing you landgrabbers can do is continually wail forever.

nocomment3:
Once again, french is not English. The two languages are not even built the same way. You can't translate word by word !
You translate sentences !

Stop debating what you don't know !

The most important thing.....

The only thing that is obvious here is that Lagos belongs to the Awori....Yorubas from Ife....but Benin came along and occupied the Island,becoming the ruler but not owning the land,reason they could not sell any land.
Later,the real owners, who are Yorubas,eventually took over their God given space which is Lagos.


And the Yorubas live happily ever after..

But some people continue to wail sadly ever after..

nocomment3:
Once again, french is not English. The two languages are not even built the same way. You can't translate word by word !
You translate sentences !

Stop debating what you don't know !

You are the one that should stop debating what is beyond your knowledge.

Designent in that context means designate.
Stop arguing blindly.

The only thing that is obvious here is that Lagos belongs to the Awori....Yorubas from Ife....but Benin came along and occupied the Island,becoming the ruler but not owning the land,reason they could not sell any land.
Later,the real owners, who are Yorubas,eventually took over their God given space which is Lagos.


And the Yorubas live happily ever after..

But some people continue to wail sadly ever after..

nocomment3:
Not just that, these guys have never taken any serious class about translation. Everybody who did knows translating sentences is different from translating words. And that words which look alike in different languages may not have the same litteral meanings in both languages. Even in French alone, the word they keep talking about has several meanings.

So 'designent' means 'refer'?

Please,let us see where designent has ever been translated to refer, sir.

nocomment3:
So you mean to say that the only thing being taught in France is french ? Or you are only being moronic as usual. The books I have been showing, what are they about ?

It is because you are a fake French teacher even you are not a learner because if you are,you wouldn't argue that 'designent' is not designate but refer..... what a balderdash!!

gregyboy:
Tao defeat who, lol yoruba clowns

Translating the French book,Tao has defeated his opponents.
Okay,what does 'designent' mean in English Language?

nocomment3:
..

lol

You are so childish.

I can generate a shelf full of French books from google and post it but I am not playing to the gallery.
Get serious and stop this 'clownish' attitude.

Get serious with learning French,then maybe you can debate Tao who seems to have the grasp of French more than you.

nocomment3:
One time that stupid to even thought she could debate maths with me ...
Now they want to debate french with me, they are literally illiterates in French. I read french books and write french books, I teach in France.

The same thing goes for history.

Teach French?
Kikikikikiki

Somebody that does not know the meaning of 'designent' in English o.
You are really a clown,sir.

nocomment3:
These Yoruba would debate everything, they would even debate your own name with you.
They will tell you: you are wrong about your name, this is your name. If you say no then they will call you a liar or a delusional person.

That is intellect. If you are a dunce and you don't know how to defend it,they will defeat you just like you are allowing Tao to defeat you in this debate..

nocomment3:
Do so, now !

Oh my!

You are not fit to argue with that Tao.He is too much for you intellectually, please.

You cannot know French language more than French dictionary because it is a researched work.

Designent means designate.

If you have any proof contrary,let us see it but in that context,it means desgnate.

gregyboy:
Are you mad, how would any Yoruba drag edo with us were the connection from come


Lagos is an edo land occupied by yoruba immigrants

Have you ever seen an Edo or Bini man sell land in Lagos before....as the owner of course?

nocomment3:
Random book on my desk

lol

This has really shown that you are a fake.

Do you want me to take pics of French books too?
Very childish.

nocomment3:
Look, you people are too absurd. You don't speak FRENCH ! You don't know what you are talking about !
have you ever taken any translation class ?
I have ! Your don't know how to translate sentences from french to english, I do !
There are several meanings in french for several words, often times the sentence in which the word is used gives its meaning.
Look I am tired of having to explain something which is obvious to a person who is illiterate in french, i write books in french !
You can't speak french !

You have no idea how to translate !

How do you know that I don't speak French?

It has shown now that you don't know anything about French Language.

nocomment3:
No actually this is french, not english, i happen to speak it, you don't.
You can't take words out of their context. And as I have already told you, here is the translation:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco and that is how the jebu refer to it."

Besides, the author doesn't witness any naming ceremony, so you guys need to stop being ridiculous. It is very simple.

Meanings of "désignent" in English French Dictionary : 1 result(s)

Category French English
General
1 General désignent [v.p./der.] designate
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Pronunciation of désignent



https://tureng.com/en/french-english/désignent

That word means designate, sir and I think Tao is right..

nocomment3:
Captain Horseley called it Eco and that is how the jebu refer to it.

Designent means designate,sir..

nocomment3:
Mr liar, quit pretending, you don't speak a word of french. stop playing expert in french language, you know nothing about french language and i speak it fluently. The translation still stands: "Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it"

i see you are back to your former business of writing extremely long essays full of lies. Obviously nobody is going to go through all that rubbsih except your gullible fans who won't even question anything you say.

I say it clearly, I don't have the energy nor the time to go through your extremely long post. The original text is less than five lines and so is its translation. But you managed to concoct a bunch of lies numbering more than 70 lines.

“le capitaine Horseley nous l’a appelée Eco*, et c’est ainsi que la désignent les Ijebus”.


Sorry sir,but did you learn French language in school at all?

'Designent' was translated to designate by Tao while you translated it to 'refer'...
Tao translation is correct and a lot of people reading this will know that you don't understand French language as does Tao.

We are enjoying these academical vituperations tremendously but you should up your analysis because Tao seem to be getting the upper hand.Kudos to both of you sha.

Good thread, I must say

TAO11:
(1) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants was confined to only one island.

In other words, these Bini immigrants settled NOT on all the islands in Lagos, neither did they settle on the mainland.


(2) Ulsheimer’s report (as cited above) states clearly that this settlement of the Bini immigrants (which is on the island) was a frontier settlement.

In other words, this Bini settlement lies on the border of (at least) two other settlements on that island.

(3) Ulsheimer’s report as cited above names this settlement of the Bini immigrants as ”Lago”.

In other words, “Lago” was just one settlement (wherein the Bini immigrants lived) among others’ settlements on that island.

(4) Ulsheimer’s report shows that as at the year 1603 when he (Ulsheirmer) visited the island, he already met the Bini immigrants already living on the island — within a fairly large fenced settlement.

In other words, Ulsheimer was not an eyewitness to how the Bini immigrants first penetrated into Lagos from Benin.

In other words, he has no information (eyewitness or even otherwise) regarding whether the Binis penetrated into the island (from Benin) by warfare.

Neither does he have any information on whether they acquired the settlement from the native people by means of some peaceful negotiation.

(5) Regardless of how they originally acquired their settlement (by conquest or by peaceful negotiation with the natives) the settlement — as at the time of Ulsheimer’s visit — was already the exclusive property of the Binis.

(6) The only writings which came to make the first statements on the manner of acquisition of their settlement are writings from the year 1878, 1914, 1929, and 1952.

(7) The 1878, 1914, and 1929 writings are known by historians as the Lagos account — and these three all agree that the Binis acquired their settlement on the Island by means of a peaceful negotiation with the native owners, the Aworis.

[See attached for an excerpt from the 1929 recollection of the Lagos account].

(8 ) It wasn’t until the year 1952 (decades after the Lagos account have been published by British colonial authorities) that a Benin Chief by the name J. U. Egharevba came up with his reactive account that the Binis acquired the Lagos settlement by warfare.

(9) It is clear who was narrating an account unconditionally, and who woke up decades later (without any prior evidence) to react that it wasn’t so.

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I just love the way you have destroyed the lies of the Benin migrants in Lagos step by step.Kudos bro.

gregyboy:
Wtf ogiso(sky kings) nigga please, ogiso is a benin myth, oba has always been ruling Benin


Ogiso never existed they were ancient benin mytg told to make the Royal stool divine


Go and enlighten yourself on my profile if you dont mind


Here is a screenshot from a European author who specialty is on Benin history he is a researcher too,
He knows the truth benin-ife was made up during the amalgamation period

Are you for real?

You have been posting this excerpt but it does not counter any fact.
The first Benin Oba was Oranmiyan,a Yoruba man.His son was Eweka,the great.

gregyboy:
That raiding is a lie and cannot be proven, stop spreading it, how did we know the raiding really happened because they said it in a book


Provide a book dating from 1800 to 1914 to backup your claims, because the books we find these days are tribally stired

Why don't you bring something to counter him instead of this outburst?
The Yorubas have brought forward a lot of facts to back up their claim,why can't you also bring facts?

gregyboy:
Did ever say they are not Yoruba, you are too forward bro

I am not even here to argue with you on your opinion but history has shown that Yorubas especially Ife people founded Benin....Ile Ibinu,which is a Yoruba word for land of annoyance.....because Igodomigodo ruled by Ogisos was a village and long gone.
We should not be doing this if the last Oba of Benin has not tried to rewrite history.
Yorubas and Binis have always had something in common..

TAO11:
First of all, the last time I schooled you on the “Ooni” topic, you were caught pants down lying about why your Obas visit Ile-Ife when they’re newly enthroned.

You claimed your Oba Akenzua II’s visit to Ife was to greet the then Governor of Western Region — the Ooni.

However, I disgraced you by demonstrating that the Ooni wouldn’t be made Governor until three decades later.

And how did you react to the disgrace? The same thing you do when in shame. You deactivated your account and fled in shame.

Moreover, I have already debunked your reta.rded unsubstantiated claim into silence on this same page. Thanks for helping me bring it to this current page.

See my comment below:


Moreover, the attachments below published in the year 1903 shows that the Ooni of Ife had always been the head of all Yoruba monarchs since time immemorial.
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915204_3bb91d9be2ea45c5afd3f41e88728f3e_jpeg_jpeg645a15f18177fc5fe10c58c7cc98cb9c
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915205_d21b9942ec6b49db8268dddb52125c5d_jpeg_jpeg5b7a9464bca8be76b7a6cbdd30d76898
www.nairaland.com/attachments/12915206_ea1bb7bbeb514c029bf799998b655ca3_jpeg_jpeg94b9f98f3c978fcbb8823afc65a47cbc

Having debunked that, I like to add that: The oldest known written evidence of “Oba” for your a Benin monarch is in the 1860s.

Whereas, we have seen an 1845 usage of “Oba” for Yoruba monarchs. LMAO!

The link below debunks the lies of the Benin lying machines and exposes the fact that the word “Oba” was borrowed by the Binis from the Yorubas.


https://www.nairaland.com/6234931/why-ikwerres-not-igbo-logic/15#96513655

Cc: orisa37

I am enjoying this.You are a gem.
I hope this is Are...I remember when there were still Ilekeh etc.