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I see fear everywhere because Obi will win. The political class and jobber will be jobless. Even Sanusi, Dangote, Elumelu, will vote Obi. The northern elites will vote Obi, Obasanjo will vote Obi. Obi will win 2023 election. Like it or not, live in denial or not, he is the most popular and accepted candidate. Linking him to IPOB wont change anything. Buhari was named as the chief negotiator for Boko Haram which is worse than IPOB stand on Obi.

Obi is the true unifier. Do not worry, when it happens, may God revert the curse so you see a better NIgeria.

Semi final or quaternary final is irrelevant. People grasping for irrelevant stuff

HighTableVoice:
If your statement is purely political and to advocate for a candidate I will rest my case as i will take it that your mind is already set. I noticed you included APC and PDP's presidential candidate in your comnent and not LP's or the other ones. Let me put it simply, I am not being bias, I am merely giving you my reasons for the candidate I am choosing to support.

As for buttons to press, it just simply means having the right information, right people to meet and right place to be. In a working country it's still the same, not all is rosy as you may be choosing to belief. Know your facts. Nigeria is a working country in progress, its government always wants to improve and they are open to any individual or organization that is helping them in reducing their problems. If you want a better Nigeria for you, yourself and people around you as a genuine patriot, keep that fact in mind

Because I put him in the class of Fashola, Ambode, Donald Duke, etc. They are not saints but they are good leaders

Aurielfinizu:
Latest news now..

Wike just decamp to LP..

Wike is not relevant. He will be irrelevant in politics quicker than he expects.

The fact that everyone keeps talking of Obi shows he is the candidate to beat. Them first say na social media, later no structure, now they are not committed. How do you measure committment? People donating houses, time and money is what? Lol.

Show me Tinubu's committed supporters let me check. Even the agberos cannot donate their money for Tinubu instead Tinubu has to pay them.

I think he should go and check dictionary for the definition of committment. APC and PDP already shitting in pants and campaign never start. Once campaign start, APC and PDP will collapse their structure just to be in the race

HighTableVoice:
To some extent I am quite adept to the meaning of Leadership as I do engage in the role myself with my businesses. And from another learned to the other, I retract my previous statement regarding your comment.

On Tinubu being corrupt, all of them enjoy the privilege of being in Governance. Hell, if you are earning over a million naira a month in Nigeria you are either corrupt or working for a corrupt organization that's my take. But corruption is defined, in hindsight whatever you think Tinubu should be Jailed for majority of his corruption as you put has benefited Lagos state and its residence. Think of Real Estate alone, and I mean Houses and apartments normal Nigerian working class can afford to buy with proper planning and execution, and this projects don't just erect themselves, from bank loan to developers, to contractors, labour, equipments and amenities needed for these projects, labour is from Lagos, Loans are mostly facilitated through Nigerian Banks, building Materials most and if not all procured inside Lagos Markets, Water, Sand, Stone, Irons, electrical works, Paints all this procured inside Lagos market and its people selling this because I am sure it is not free. The problem with Nigeria is not having, it is how we manage what we have. Tinubu has used government money to achieve government purpose in his own way, not disagreeing that he has benefited from it but I also do not see anything wrong with that. An average Nigerian should and could be earning more than a million per annum, it is just a matter of understanding the system and knowing which buttons to press.

My support for Tinubu is not based on sentiment, its just good business and very open to progress. He is a man of Progress by nature

The knowing which button to press is the problem right there. You do not need to press anybody in a working country, the opportunity is available to everyone. Please do you live in Lagos and have you attempted building houses outside Lagos? I will assume all you are saying is out of either bias or ignorance. Until we are all ready to call corruption what it is and not make excuse because it is our brother, we will never achieve our full potential as a nation. Tinubu is corrupt, Atiku is corrupt, Sowore is a blackmailer, Hop Uzodinma, Rochas are all criminals.

Let me paint a difference, Fashola is not a saint but do you really believe Tinubu is a better leader than Fashola? That is the difference. No politician is a saint, I mean politician all over the world but there is blatant corruption and let us just call it what it is.

I do not care who votes for Tinubu, I know he is not qualified to rule and he will not win by God's grace. We will keep campaigning to people to know that Nigeria cannot go to the dustbin hence do not vote a Tinubu.

HighTableVoice:
Excuse me, not comparing Tinubu to any other but using him as a reference point for prosperity and deligency. Dangote is in commerce, Tinubu is in governance, when it is a crime to prosper for what you dedicate your life to, you should also let me know. A whole lot of people have been in his position and haven't been able to seize the opportunities that comes with that post, to increase, sustain and secure proper order in all forms.

Government money you say, No! Money I will rather say and people have the right to use their positions in life into leveraging the betterment of their sole self and their state if and when possible or able and Tinubu has done both. Hypocritical sentiments and trying to be pios is out of the question. Nigeria is poor, a failed state, so far and so forth, but it has never denied any of its citizens benefiting from its economy. You can only say you do not know how.

I do not understand why learned Nigerians are not taking everything into account and still butressing the politics, mind sets and narrative of by gone days.

And as for you reffering to my comment as being nonsense, that is just plainly rude and uncivilized

A non-sense statement is not rude, it is simply non-sense. Ireferred to your statement and not you because I know we are exchanging point. No one goes to governance to enrich himself. I think where you should start from is understanding what governance is then you will conclude that in a sane clime, Tinubu is supposed to be serving jail time. Nigeria is a failed state, also try to understand what a failed state is. Please point out what Tinubu policies bettered the lives of Lagosians and please do not start quoting Fashola and Ambode's projects or Mobolaji Johnson's housing project.

Tinubu can only be a reference of corruption, bad governance and democratic dictatorship. I recommend reading ledearship books, maybe then you'll understand what leadership really means since you siad tha was Tinubu's achievement. (I can recommend for you if you want).
I am pretty sure, you'll after conclude that Tinubu is a bad candidate for our dear country.

bewla:
How long did it take you to no the line brt will run on was commission and start by Tinubu administration and the first set of bus was in ojota long before fashola come to Power

Tinubu did not start BRT. It was done by Fashola. Name what Tinubu did, I can help you with one but you guys are still struggling to name Tinubu's achievement that he wants to replicate in Nigeria.

Only agberos and ... was Tinubu's achievement in Lagos. He did not even do roads. I am patiently waiting

bewla:
Ok let start brt was is first projet lawma , Kai, neighbors hood watch, lasma, jigi bola , health centers for medical assistant, creation of LCDA , till that many housing estate

Lol, neighborhood watch started in 2016, LCDA is not a project, it was to get more federal allocation which OBJ did not buy into, housing estates were built by Mobolaji Johnson, BRT was done by Fashola, LAWMA started in 1977 and was rebranded.

Oga I am still waiting for one Tinubu's project or achievement. It does not exist

Abbeypp:
You are very correct....lets just wait and see how everything will turn out

No he is very wrong. No one truly cares about tribe in a working Nigeria. Tribe only becomes an issue during election, after that, no else cares about it. So do not deceive yourself, everything in politics is about individual interest and not tribe.

HighTableVoice:
Prosperity with Government money? No. Prosperity with Opportunity I will call it. Tinubu saw the potentials within the Nigeria system, he made prospects and he's prospering from it, that is not a crime. Dangote did, Otedola also, The Adelekes, Innoson, Igbenidion and even Peter Obi and Atiku, the other presidential candidates themselves in their own ways. How is that a wrong thing to do

To give a recent example, the whole Agbado issue some people keeps clamouring about, what is wrong with it, since when is Grains as a commodity not an opportunity. In my opinion it is a very good business innovation that a lot of people can benefit from. When a King says he wants to build to a bridge, uninformed people question why, informed people question what they can supply.
Take the idea of millions of Nigerians employed directly or indirectly in the Nigerian security system, besides the most obvious which is security, but issue of feeding them with Agbado also come to mind, take into account that food needs lands, lands needs seeds, seeds needs fertilizers, fertility needs care, produce needs transportation, transportation needs means, maintenance, human resources, and lots, and this is just one, and you as a Nigerian can be of service and benefit from this in any aspects or even more.

And very true on your point that a good leader doesnt insist on leading without a strong trusted followership, this if in Tinubu's case you can very much read between the lines, just because you do not follow him doesn't means he doesn't have strong followership and supporters. The most attacked Presidential Candidate, Party and VP nominee, yet he is still standing strong

Oga just be true to yourself. What business did Tinubu start with his own money or loan from a bank? He did not see any opportunity. Stealing from government coffers is not opportunity, it is a crime and let us stop celebrating criminality for a better NIgeria. You cannot compare Tinubu wealth and Dangote's wealth. Simple question, which of Tinubu's business is not getting more than half of its revenue from government contracts? Which one please even the media houses are for government propaganda. Please take out sentiment and be factual to stop justifying criminality.

Don't worry you will be recruited in the Nigerian army and feed on agbado and corn. Abeg no annoy me with your non sense talk. If you guys cannot reason very far or only justify non sense that is glaring to the blind, I cannot help you. In a world where people are talking of technology, you are coming to justify agbado.

Only two people support Tinubu, I can bet on it, those that benefitted directly from his loot or power and those that are tribalistic. I can place a bet on this anyday anytime. No ordinary Nigerian will support a Tinubu. Not now, not tomorrow and not yesterday.

HighTableVoice:
Looter? Perhaps you can explain further because I do not know when prosperity has been a crime.

Prosperity with government money? Well that is a crime. What was his networth before politics and then what is his networth now then how did he arrive at his Prosperity?

Please take away sentiment and be factual.

A good leader doesn't insist on leading, his followers want him leading. Let the three candidates decide not to contest, who do you think people will insist on him contesting? For sure not Tinubu

HighTableVoice:
Leadership is leadership my brother, the context you may percieve differently, nevertheless that it is what it is. Leadership, order, economic growth, individual growth & wellbeing, inclusiveness, wealth creation and its security, philanthropy etc, without the right figure head people can't benefit or even attain this in a state, country, family or business. It is unagreeable to assume or even assert that Tinubu's leadership of Lagos has been all for naught in all aspects of speaking.
As for NURTW, majority are not Agberos in a manner of speaking in my own opinion, I know family men who cater for their family with the industry.

Unfortunately all the things you linked to leadership are things Tinubu lacks. He only has the qualities of a looter. Go and verify

HighTableVoice:
Leadership

What ledearship na? For agberos?? For what?? I am still waiting for Tinubu's achievement as governor.

bewla:
Ok fashola was to be credited abi

Obi 20 years plan what happens next after him


Let's give credit to who deserves it



TINUBU may not be saint he may be greedy which we all are but he has transform Lagos
Let join him to do it all over Nigeria


Then next obi then next maybe you or my son one day who nos

Tinubu deserves no credit for another man's achievement. Or will he claim Buhari flaws since he also brought in Buhari to power as he claim. Let us be consistent.
I am still waiting for someone to tell me exactly what Tinubu did in his 8 years as governor besides empowering agbero. Just one thing (mind you I know one but it is intangible and i will not mention it but if you do I will agree on that). Please just one thing

Just to remind you all that Lagos development blue print was drawn up by Mobolaji Johnson's administration.

condralbedez:
In this brouhaha where is the so called city boy,or is Shettima the new presidential flag bearer of APC Tinubu has started avoiding the masses now,if he wins what will happen

Thank God he will not win. Our country will not be handed over to a drug baron and a terrorist sponsor

bewla:
Giving this be honest what will you rate the first and the second picture

You actually mean after Fashola. Tinubu has nothing to show

dre11:
https://www.thecable.ng/sources-wike-meets-tinubu-in-france-horse-trading-to-work-against-atiku/amp

The cable that cannot transmit fact is a defected cable.

Throwback:
So Peter Obi is still stuck in this stage of the outreach?

If I was in the crowd, I will ask him questions about his statement made at the NBA conference yesterday.



If not connection, how did you become Labour Party presidential candidate without even a 1month membership of the long existing party?

Was it your entitlement to be a Presidential candidate that you could not accept defeat in PDP, so you ran out at the 11th hour to go secure it elsewhere without prior work for that party?

If Character is being discussed, would you be remembered positively or negatively as that political prostitute who promised never to leave APGA and that leaving APGA would mean leaving politics?

What is your Capacity with your poor academic record and your inability to grow the economy of Anambra state?

If Commitment was paramount, would you depart APGA and also depart PDP that gave you a national platform in 2019?

Rather than clap for a liar and desperate politician, ask him questions and see how he will begin to slow down on the fancy talk that is belied by his own contrary actions.

So Mr Peter Obi, the 2023 election is going to be about the things you say it shouldn't be about, and you are most guilty of it being so because you are the epitome of tribe, religion, connection, and entitlement?

You are the Igbo candidate who must never be campaigned against by other Igbo politicians, you are the religious crusader that has attended all the Churches you never attended even as a Governor, your Labour Party ticket is borne out of connection and entitlement.

Sir, you are a patholigical liar and hypocrite.

Shior!

Envy is not a crime but it kills fast. As e dey sweet us, e go dey pain you

Zydote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuTct-QgojI
Even Peter Obi applauded His economic plans




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2022/08/follow-man-wey-know-road-shettima-tells-nigerians-at-2022-nba-conference/amp/

Lol, he clapped for everyone's economic plan even Atiku's plan. Politics without bitterness or hate. We will run an inclusive government not agbado and ewa.

The interesting part was the last statement in his speech. He nailed Tinubu and Atiku to the gutters.

iwaeda:
His plan still the most feasible

you mean selling the whole of nigeria to himself?

He has no plan, paper documents he cannot defend and always needing clarification from the owners of the document

diplomat058:
OK. It's a good Asíwájú did not attend. Just Shettima alone is enough to handle the intellectual prerequisites of attendance and presentation, and he SMASHED it as expected.

Bola is the INCOMING GCFR!

Wetin he smash. People did not even understand what he was saying. Next time he should come with a translator

iwaeda:
https://dailytrust.com/nba-conference-atiku-clarifies-comment-on-federal-universities

You know you have no plan when all your statements need clarification.

Someone that cannot address NBA conference? Abeg make we hear word

colorsofrainbow:
I love Tinubu,that's why I'm still looking for Labour party's structure upandan

You will not find structure until we get to Aso rock then when you ask how it happened, God will open your eyes then. For now you must remain blind and without knowledge of the OBIdient movement

Jesusloveyou:
but idiotic pigs of biafra terrorist are happy about the fake news.

You need mental evaluation

Pandev:
I laugh in Swahili

money for money? Structure for structure? Which structure? The one that couldn't produce up to 500 people in Imo state for the so called 1 million march?
Have you seen the crowd pulled by Kwankaso in Nasarawa? The same Nasarawa you pulled less than 300 people and started making noise that north central in the bag. Check your bag, e be like say e dey leak

Where is the picture of kwankwaso rally? Is he still contesting cos i haven't heard if him. Lol. E go shock all of una. God is working.

vicdom:
Now it's 3-4 horse race; if Atiku gets majority of votes from the north and gets 25% from ss and se, he will win ooo.
As it's now, Atiku is more focused in the North because he knows that there's where his block votes will come from, the reason he's calling Wike's bluff. I knew that something was giving Atiku confidence all these while, the reason he's not even bothered about the south. A desperate politician like him that's supposed to even bow down just to win his election, he's not even bothered about Wike. The northerners actually know how to play politics, the reason they are uniting around Atiku this time.

Where does he want to see 25% in South? Call the states. Even in the north, he's not popular

Lol. Tinubu dey find sympathy. What is the meaning of almost lynched. Almost lynched that police could get there in time to save him. If they wanted to lynch him, he would not be alive again.

Everything about APC is propaganda

Ayosman1:
Yoruba people think they are wiser than other tribe in the south. Power was with Jonathan a southerner, you people coalided with the North, to call Jonathan all manner of names, now you people are stylishly shouting Power must return to south, because of your selfish interest. Power must remain in the North, after all the last PDP president was from the south. Atiku is ur next president, because North East and south East have a valid point to agitate for the presidency

Atiku cannot rule Nigeria. Go write it down. He can and will never rule Nigeria. He won't win in the south and no one wins election with only one region.

SyrusdeHansome:
What will u call those southerners that supported PMB instead of GEJ? U can't force ur candidate on other pple.

Because they were blinded and manipulated. But now they should be wiser. I'm not forcing my candidate on anyone, I'm only saying power should move to the south

Another Buhari in the making. Already putting his Northern brothers in key position. Any southerner voting for Atiku has foolishness of the highest order