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Sccarrr:
well other players in the MLS contributed more than him in terms of assists and goals

this thing is not hard na.

most of the top scorers barely assist.

Most of the players that assisted didn’t score many goals

Messi is the only player that competed with top scorers and also manage to assist as many as 11goals despite playing fewer games.


Goals plus assists, Messi dust all of them

Introvert123:
IS MESSI A SKILLFUL PLAYER?? I sincerely do not messi as a skillful player.you can't attribute a particular skill to lionel messi . Messi is a better dribbler than ronaldo as it stands but I would say cristiano is more skillful than messi . Cristiano uses more of skills than messi does in matches . My honest opinion regarding that .

You need to widen your horizon a little. Skills does not necessarily mean dribble. It’s about what you can do with the ball and as far as football is concerned, Messi ticks all the boxes of a complete footballer. It’s hard to mention what he cannot do except defending and he doesn’t score often with his head.

Dribbling(Messi, Neymar, Robben, Delima, Ronaldo(Man U days)

Free kick(Messi, Ronaldo, Nakamura, Juninho)

Pass accuracy ( Messi, KDB, Fab, Pirlo, Xavi, Modric)

Goal scoring(Messi, Ronaldo, Lewandowski, Suarez)
Assist(Ozil, Messi, KDB, Fab)

Creativity(KDB, Messi, Fab, Iniesta, Ozil and many others)

Speed(bale, Messi, Ronaldo, Walcott, Henry, Mbappe and Salah

Header(Ronaldo, Giroud, JT,

His passing ability is second to none
His dribbling is perfect
Best free kick take of his generation
He scores and assists
His creativity is top notch
Messi is one of the fastest player ever

This is why many including active and retired players and coaches regard Messi as the best ever cos when he’s not scoring, he will be assisting and creating chances for his team.

Messi is the only player that can win MOTM without a goal

Leave agenda one side, Messi is phenomenal no cap

Myrrhis:
Arsenal is officially a deadly football club.

why always Africa?

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzania/news/east-africa-news/arsenal-fan-killed-in-uganda-over-match-against-man-utd-4358

dreamworld:
Arsenal people are terrorist

it’s not a club thing.

Last year, they murdered an Arsenal fan after they defeated Man united.

https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzania/news/east-africa-news/arsenal-fan-killed-in-uganda-over-match-against-man-utd-4358

Numerouno94:
Those guys are daft. You must gat a low IQ to b a tapnaldo fan, just as u must b mumu to support APC government.

omo those guys don defy logic tire

Numerouno94:
I swear. The werey don edit all him comments because him dey fear wotowoto. But 4get say he nor fit edit the ones i quote.

🤩🤩

CaptainZubi:
Ademola lookman is even better than saka

okay

CodeTemplarr:
I am sure if stats do count, messi wont have more than 3 ballon d'or

Try de research before you type.

I’m sure you didn’t know Messi had the best individual stats in 2016, 2017 & 2018

If Balon D’or is based on stats, Messi would have defeated Ronaldo in 2016 & 2017 and also defeated Modric in 2018.

Messi had the best individual stats in 2018 yet he didnt make top 3 but Messi fans didn’t even make noise.

Numerouno94:
U will just kill urself over Messi issue. Don't go and oget a life. Mr my father is a billionaire.

🤩🤩

You de mind Al Yusuf fans 🤩🤩

Angelfrost:
Then it should have been issued as a back date the following year...!

There was simply no excuse for that.

That was the peak of the young man's career... His one time chance to get it.

If it had been Messi or Ronaldo who were in pole position to win it, do you think they would have dared to scrap it?!!

It was a robbery! Let's not sugarcoat it.

I don’t think it’s about Ronaldo or Messi here. French football made the announcement before most league resumed from the COVID break.

Although they had no valid reason to cancel cos all the major league resumed except for ligue 1.

The whole wahala started cos Messi won the 2021 edition and most people felt, it should have gone to Lewandowski to compensate him for 2020.

Angelfrost:
Lewandoski was robbed also...! Nothing new.

Ballon d'Or has been doing politics for years.

Lewandoski was no robbed.

He deserved 2020 unfortunately for him, the award was not issued because of Covid.

CaptainZubi:
Oga go and compare saka with madueke. He's no where close to Palmer. Even nkunku

Go and sleep

TheStrongest:
You guys just don't like Hazard, SIMPLE!!
Everyone knew Neymar was the 3rd best player then, I don't know ANY Chelsea fan that went against that view.

Also, the talk of JT being brought into the conversation was a testament to how difficult it was for players to get to that point then. Everyone knows JT was a better defender than Van Dijk, the likes of Vidic, Ramos, Pepe, Cole, etc were all better than Van Dijk. It was just a reference, and it wasn't only JT that was mentioned then.

I guess anything CHELSEA rile you up, sorry 😁😁.. It's not our fault we're the pride of London.

Palmer was better than all the other players you mentioned, last season. The only difference was trophy, which is a team something. Individual performance Palmer was ahead of ALL of them.

I understand you're a gunner, I don't expect you to agree..

So, let's just drop the back and forth here..

To you they were all better than Palmer, that's fine..
To the rest of the world Palmer was better, and that's fine too.

Why would anybody hate Hazard?

Well, maybe you are not among those that compared him to Neymar. It’s one argument I would never in a hurry. 2016 when I was serving in Jos, this argument came up severally……Chelsea fans kept on saying Hazard was better than Neymar. A number of them kept quiet after Neymar’s performance in remontada.

JT is one player I watched from beginning to the end of his career. In EPL it’s hard to compare any defender with him. VVD is a good player but quality wise, he’s not on JT’s level.

The only reasonable argument back then was Gerrard vs Lampard.

Don’t guess, am a full blooded Arsenal fan. Na assistant pride of London una be🤩🤩

You may not blv but I rate Palmer higher than Foden and I am not a big fan of Bellingham.

For Foden, I have a feeling he can’t function outside Pep’s system. I may be wrong but his performance with the NT over the years is validating my opinion abt him.

For Bellingham, I have watched him play severally and to be sincere, the guy is far from what the media is making us believe.

For Palmer, I wish he plays for Arsenal that’s how much I rate him.

Au revoir bro 🤝

TheStrongest:
And in all my argument I always included "last season".. We can't compare overall since Palmer just had his first full season last season. Saka has done more for both club and country.

My point has always been about last season.

I guess I missed that part cos I was having same discussion with the other guy

TheStrongest:
Kane is a number 9, and a great one too, He's obviously gonna have more goals than Palmer. In the playmaking role, Palmer dwarfs Kane..

You brought about stats, and I told you Palmer was better than the rest. And so far this season is still better than the rest. Why did you omit the rest and focus on just Kane??

Saying Chelsea fans compares their players with others is a FAT lie, we're not known for that. That is an Arsenal thing..

Chelsea fans are known to brag about their team, that is 100% true.

Also, whatever happens to Hazard's career is non of our business, for the time he was with us he was among the best 4 players in the world. If you're honest, you would attest to that. Saying he was the next big thing was not wrong, everyone with eyes could see that he was.

Lastly, Messi is nobody's mate, don't drag the GOAT into this conversation abeg..

Foden/Bellingham had better season and almost equal stats with Palmer. i told you its not NT performance that won him the award and even club performance Foden, Bellingham and Kane performed better and those names are also in the race for Balon D'or but you kept on saying he was the best. how come he was not shortlisted for Balon D'or?

Abt the bolded, Chelsea fans do this a whole lot. i don't know if you are active on twitter but once a Chelsea player starts shining, the next thing is to start a comparison.

Drogba vs Henry
James vs Arnold
The moment Salah began to shine, they began to compare him to Hazard.
VVD was nominated for Balon D'or, next thing they brought JT into the convo.
As soon as Palmer started balling, they began to drag Saka.

cant you people just adore your players and lets others be.

To be honest, nobody can dispute how good Hazard was but he wasn't the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi. The next best thing was Neymar not him. its Chelsea fans that were trying to push Neymar out of the convo.

I'm a huge fan of Messi....and for the record, its not a comparison but a prediction of what might happen if Palmer continues at this pace.

TheStrongest:
It was Arsenal fans that brought up that silly Sanchez vs Hazard comparison. Every right thinking human knows that Hazard was a better player than Sanchez.

Sanchez was a fantastic player, no doubt about that. But you can't compare both.

You're just pained and avoiding the truth. I don't even know who brought up the Saka vs Palmer argument yesterday, but because you don't want to agree that Palmer was a better player than Saka last season you had to include Foden and Bellingham in the argument, yet Palmer was better than these two..

Like Haaland said, "Stay Humble 😁"..

Like I said before, Hazard had a better team.

You had that argument with some other person not me.

And it was never about last season. I don’t know if it was you but someone said Palmer is a better player. I commented and said I don’t agree. Palmer is good but not better than Sakas plus he’s a midfielder while Saka is a pure winger. The person even went ahead to say if he prefers Neto to Saka

See the screenshot 👇

CaptainZubi:
Yet you're still making excuses despite the fact that hazard was an individually brilliant player.

Sanchez wasnt an individually brilliant player?

CaptainZubi:
So JT was not a better defender than van dijk? this guy no go purge me with laugh

read to understand not respond. talking abt the constant comparison

TheStrongest:
Oga you don't like Palmer, stop hiding behind "I like Palmer" to spew your biased take.

Regarding how I see Palmer, I have absolutely nothing to prove to you. Liking him does not stop me from saying the truth unlike you Chelsea fan that like to compare your players to others. if its not how James is better than Arnold, its Drogba vs Henry or Hazard vs Salah or JT vs VVD. one day we will hear Palmer is better than Messi just like you guys almost made us believe Hazard was the next best thing after Ronaldo and Messi

Palmer was a better player than Saka, Bellingham, and Foden last season.

why did you omit Harry Kane?

He lost the PFA award to Foden because of Chelsea's performance last season. You're mentioning goals and assist score for national team, how many goals and assist do you expect a bench player to have?

I see what you did. I mentioned Harry Kane, Foden and Bellingham. You omitted Harry Kane to make you point valid because you know Kane outperformed him.

His assist took them to the finals, his goal in the final leveled the game before Spain scored again.

Did others not contributed before the semis? Harry Kane scored 3, Bellingham 2, Saka Watkins & Palmer 1..... or others didn't count cos Palmer scored in the final?

In what statistics were these guys better than Palmer last season? He had a better goal contribution than all these players. What stats exactly were they better than Palmer?

If you agree or not is not my business, the awards are there to back my claim.

I rest my case.

So Palmer was better than Harry Kane with 46goals 12 assist last season?

CaptainZubi:
I burst into laughter when you said hazard was not better than sanchez quality wise

He wasn’t….. he just played for a better team at the time.

TheStrongest:
Palmer was a better player last season than everybody you mentioned.

And he was rewarded for his performance.. Winning England's player of the season is special, it means he is the best player in the squad for that season. The same squad that has Bellingham, Foden, and Saka.

You agree or not doesn't change anything. The award is there to backup my claim.

Vini will win the Balon D'or today, using personal stats as a yardstick, is he better than everybody on that Balon D'or top 20 list?

Are you kidding me right now?

Palmer better than Foden, Bellingham and Kane last season?

Palmer did not even make Balon D’or top 15 meanwhile Kane, Foden and Bellingham made the list.

Statistically, these guys were better than him.

What exactly did he play for the national team to win it?

How many goals and assists did he contribute in qualifiers?

In the main tournament, he scored once and assisted once.

I like Palmer but you guys really need to stop the sentiment game.

Stop trying to twist it. Vini will not just win for personal performance. He won UCL & La liga with outstanding performances. He scored 6 UCL goals…. Only Kane and Mbappe 8 had more

CaptainZubi:
We've seen this from arsenal fans over the years. Overhyping nonsense. That was how you all said sanchez was better than hazard. You even compared wilshere to lampard too . Or should we talk about how you were comparing Santi carzola to fabregas.? Or kocielny to John Terry. Lol arsenal fans can be so ridiculous

lying would not take you anywhere.

Who in his or her right senses would compare Kos to JT?

Or Wilshere to Lampard

Sanchez and Hazard is arguable. The difference is just the club they played for at the time. Both players had similar impacts on their respective clubs. Hazard had a better team. We can’t say the same for Sanchez. Quality wise Hazard is/was not better.

And no Arsenal fan would compare Fab & Cazorla.

Fab was our former player and as a matter of fact, we’ve not had any 10 better than him not even Ozil

Stop sounding as if Chelsea fans are not culpable of the same accusation.

Chelsea fans keep saying Hazard is better than Salah. When you bring stats, they get angry but you guys didn’t have a problem comparing Drogba to Henry.

AjisafeDayo:
Chelsea seldom finished in top 4 but they have always won the UCL. So why won't he want to leave for a club who is on the list of the clubs that have won the UCL not once

sorry but your opinion on this topic is shallow.

And If we go by your logic, Neymar would not have left Barcelona for PSG.

Robinho would not leave Real Madrid for Man City with no EPL or UCL

Makalele would not leave Real Madrid for Chelsea with no EPL or UCL

I can go on and on but let’s leave this for another day.

TheStrongest:
It happened because of the clueless coach.. Shey Palmer went on to win the National Team best player..

A player that comes from bench o

Firstly, it’s England Player of the Year not National Team Best Player and Palmer’s emergence was not based on NT performance. If it’s based on NT performance, do you really think Palmer would have won it?

Secondly, If the players that voted considered overall stats and trophies, Kane or Bellingham would have won it.

Kane had abt 45goals and 10 assists for club and country.

Bellingham had about 27goals and 15 assists for club and country. He also won UCL & La liga.

Foden had similar stats with Bellingham. He also won EPL.

And What’s even special about winning England Player of the Year? Saka won it twice and several players have won it.

Palmer is a very good player with a brighter future but your last sentence was unreasonable.

CaptainZubi:
The whole world knows Palmer is a better player than saka bro. Palmer is easily top 7 in the world right now. I'll prefer a Pedro neto in my team to a saka sef.

Palmer is a good player but not in anyway better than Saka… plus Palmer is a midfielder while Saka is a pure winger.

Putting Neto in the same sentence with Saka is disrespectful. At the moment, you don’t have any winger (Sancho, Felix, Mudryk, Neto,& Madueke) in Saka’s class.

Can you boldly say Neto is better than Martinelli or Trossard?

Numerouno94:
I swear if i b Pendu fan i go cry wit this ur comment.

Messi at the moment is inter miami's top scorer. Chai!! Baba 10much abeg.

Bro long time. No vex for me abeg. Was out of reach for a long time.

🤩🤩🤩

I de learn from you and prof

The bolded, hope you’re doing good?

Gentew:
Chelsea survived same red card that was given to Arsenal’s Saliba yesterday. I now totally believe there is a conspiracy against Arsenal.

rules are only applicable against Arsenal. Know this and have peace

NaijaReppin:
Ref give Arsenal Red card for the same thing yesterday, but only give Chelsea yellow card. Na wa

he made the call👇

Leo is a very wicked man. Fear quiet people!

Leo just quiet de watch the glory hunter de brag abt his achievements and even calling himself the goat of football. We never knew Leo don hatch one deadly plan to permanently seal the lips of the pompous tapin merchant🤩

To end the debate, baba first collect Copa and Balon D’or 2021.

2022 baba used World Cup cause chaos in the camp of the enemies🤩

Since his move to MLS in 2023, he just de torture him boy with trophies and award sote Lord Luxembourg con tell us say him no de compete again🤩🤩

2024 baba still collect Copa America with Argentina

MARCA hit the nail on the coffin with this accolade.

MLS in the bag✅

Now I de hear say Justin Timberlake wan feature Penaldo for remix of CRY ME A RIVER🤣🤣🤣

ThierryJay:
I no doubt am cos Alhaji wey petty enough to respond to Cassano leaving him out of top 5 greatest players. The old bitterleaf went to google Cassano's trophies and texted him his supposedly meagre record.

Wailing go plenty for their camp tonight over this betrayal from a renowned Madrid tabloid. Im sure Marca management go don dey collect gbasgbos from his proxies.

His family must also mourn with him mandatorily but I don't trust that his son Cristiano jnr sha cos that one looks like a closet Messi fan.

You sha wicked like Leo🤩

Leo just quiet de watch the camel lord brag abt his achievements and even calling himself the goat of football. We never knew Leo don hatch one deadly plan to permanently seal the lips of the pompous tapin merchant🤩

To end the debate, baba first collect Copa and Balon D’or 2021.

2022 baba used World Cup cause chaos in the camp of the enemies🤩

Since his move to MLS in 2023, he just de torture him boy with trophies and award sote Lord Luxembourg con tell us say him no de compete again🤩🤩

MARCA don hit the nail on the coffin with this accolade.

I hear say Justin Timberlake wan feature Penaldo for remix of CRY ME A RIVER🤣🤣🤣

Almiron:
lol bro. How your side my bro

bro, I de fine oh… how have you been?

ThierryJay:
100% OJ. The near end could not have been written better if Messi's career were a fiction.

Meanwhile, somewhere in the desert it's raining uncontrollable tears as a result of this news. I hear even Youtube was not spared

😂😂

At the mention of his name, every knee must bow and confess that La Pulga Atomica is not just the greatest to ever kick the round leather game but he is the God of football.

Shey you no hear say yellow and blue don cancel training to commiserate with one of their players. The punch from marca don break him joint🤩🤩