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blowjohn:
Club.

Am talking about club

PSG & Inter Miami na country?

didn’t you see his stats in PSG & Inter Miami or which other club you de talk?

Your narrative will not make any difference coz he didn’t win Copa America & World Cup with Barcelona.

Almiron:
Sorry about that boss. May God rest his soul and He will keep you guys safe. Pls accept my condolences.

Amen 🙏

Thank you my brother

blowjohn:
But Messi has only done well in Barcelona.

That's the issue.

Outside barca he hasn't shown that greatness

That’s not true!

Take a good look at his personal and team achievements outside Barcelona and without Iniesta and Xavi.

U20 World Cup winner
Olympic Gold medalist
Copa America Winner
World Cup Winner

2x Ligue one winner(PSG)
League Cup winner(Inter Miami)

MVP in 2005 U20 World Cup
Top Scorer U20 World Cup

Copa America Best Player (2021)
Copa America Top Scorer (2021)
Copa America Top Assist (2021)

Golden Ball 2014 World Cup
Golden Ball 2022 World Cup


PSG
75 appearances
32 goals
34 assists

Inter Miami
27 appearances
25 goals

You are probably carried away by lies peddled by Ronaldo fanboys.

Ask them to mention one international tournament Ronaldo won MVP.

ThierryJay:
OJ where have you been bro! You don japa abi

@topic. Another compatriot of Pendu has seen the light. Next thing na for Baba to unfollow straight.

No mind me bro. I still de naija. After losing my Kidbro🥲 the past few months has been tough for me and my family. I just de on a low.

To unfollow no de hard am but you kukuma trust Mourinho, e no send anybody.

Ramirezkhay:


I Dy always tell pipu this things!
Messi Dy train hard too but no be by camera and eye service!

Na why he be my goat 🐐

You no lie!

Messi na hard worker

People with in-depth knowledge of football knows Messi is in a class of his own.

Deco was attacked and bullied for saying this👇

“Argentina won the World Cup because they have Messi. For us, Portugal had the best generation of good players, but we don’t have Messi.” he said in an interview with Argentine outlet TR Sports.

Another fearless Portuguese and former Real Madrid head coach just confirmed Messi’s superiority.

Kelklein:
There is no where in the interview where he chose one over one tho... he simply said Messi was the best.

Both of these guys are really best material for me.. Ronaldo is like that student who 'jacks' overnight just to have an A and top everybody in math. I think he overdoes too much.. Messi is like that gifted student who doesn't even necessarily read but still tops everyone in class.

I would also go for Messi tho..🤔

The bolded, What do you understand by “he was the best in our generation?”

At this age and time, nobody should be using “Ronaldo works hard(er)” to score points.

Messi is industrious cos talent is not enough. It’s one thing to be talented but maximizing your talent to reach your full potential is a different thing entirely.

If it wasn’t for hard work, his career would have been like Neymar and Hazard.

To be regarded as an elite free kick taker, Messi must have invested so much time and energy in practice cos he wasn’t really good at it when he started.

And also, it requires hard work to maintain standard for many years.

Back to your student analogy, gifted student reads. The major difference is, they have deeper understanding of a topic/course.

tuzle:
reporting is not the same as it been a fifa event. Mbappe was supposed to play this year Olympics, but because the competition isn't recognized by fifa Madrid refused to release him for it unlike let say nations cup that even during the season they will have to release the players if they want to go.

I never said it’s a FIFA event but it’s fully recognized by the governing body.

The only thing you can say is elite players rarely participate because they are restricted by FIFA.

if FIFA does not recognize Olympic Men’s football, you won’t see it on their official website.

tuzle:
Olympics football shouldn't be counted because it isn't recognized by fifa

Not recognized by FIFA indeed.

Here’s FIFA official website reporting the event

https://www.fifa.com/en/articles/mens-olympic-football-tournament-paris-2024-dates-stadiums-cities-qualifiers-qualified-teams-format

Almiron:
I'm yet to see a proper website that report it as at yesterday, i saw the interview on Twitter... I will check later in the day.

okay bro

Almiron:
abi now my bro, say make I dey lock em down 😂

you no go create thread for us or you still de gather momentum 😂

tuzle:
which one is completed football. U have many world cup winners in team euro. Don't bring individual records here because we know people who score goals are mostly giving the individual awards and defender, deep lying midfielders and goal keepers would find it extremely hard winning this awards. If not what has Messi won that kroos hasn't?

This isn’t a worthy comparison but the fact is, Kroos has never won Olympics nor Euros. Messi won Olympic Gold medal and Copa America.

Almiron:
abi now my bro, say make I dey lock em down 😂

😂😂

Almiron:
I'm good my bro, how's your side?

just de my brother.

I see de how you de press their neck.

Good job bro👍👍

Almiron:
Ojeemah my bro, I sight you

My gee🫂

How are you doing bro?

Livelystone01:
I saw your first write up and ignored it because it was full of wrong stats.

I will respond to this. How come he never became the focal point since he left?

Ronaldo first 4 years in Madrid was not as good as people thought. The team became competitive after they added more people to the squad like Ozil, Di Maria, Bale, Modric and co.

He was being trashed by Barca until mourinho started adding players.

Perez understood that only Ronaldo couldn't do it so he invested in all areas. Ronaldo wouldn't have been in the comparison with Messi if he hadn't joined Madrid.

You guys should be logical for once.

don’t mind them jare.

After he left Madrid, he didn’t play one semi final till he left Europe.

He was in Juventus when Ajax, Lyon & Porto knocked Juventus out of UCL.

After he left Madrid, he never got close to winning top scorer award in UCL.

His fans even told us he can win UCL with 10 deadwoods.

When he couldn’t do it, they all began to blame other players and Pirlo, Juventus coach at the time.

Dougad:
All things being equal, it would have been 3:3
Extra time or pks would have given them a chance. As small as the chance was for them to go over, it still was better than nothing.

True

Dougad:
Explain one of the reasons why they lost to Madrid. Who missed an important penalty?

he lost the pk but Madrid outclassed them in the second leg. That pk wouldn’t have saved them tbh.

Dougad:
We're talking about the first season here.

Messi could have gotten benched all season and PSG would have won the league. No CAP.
He improved massively for the second but he was complete ass for the first.

i understand you bro. Also consider the fact that, it was his first career transfer in over 17years playing professional football.

Ekaka14:
Dortmund looking to be the dark horse in this campaign....
Their game is going perfectly to plan...they will defend this 1 goal and push to get a second if they can

the way they knocked ATM out got me scared. That team should not be underrated.

Dougad:
Messi 6 goals win them the league oo 🤣🤣🤣

Mbappe 20+ goals no count.

Now let's talk about the champions league.
PSG played in the finals and semis before Messi. Got kicked out ro16 for two seasons with Messi and are now playing a semi with him gone.

What do we call that?

playing Madrid & Bayern in round of 16 is different from playing Real Sociedad.

Dougad:
Factos

Them messi fools for Twitter be dey talk say na easy 40/50 goals a season.

Reality humble their stupid head

20goals, 20 assists in his second season does not count because he underperformed in the first?

ThierryJay:
Happy new year my guy.

Abi shey they want Messi to kill himself ni for an award he didn't even want

Haaland should just go and wash his head African style cos it seems he is an award-repellent at the moment. This is the first time a favorite has been clearly usurped. Fifa should have extended the deadline like they did for Pendu in 2013 to force Haaland's win.

Haaland needs baba’s touch😂😂

The bolded should have been the perfect solution.

ThierryJay:
Errmm BJ, just to let you know that it's your fave team players that gave Messi the win.

There was a tie with Haaland, and whoever had the higher captains votes was used to select the winner. 13 captains voted for Messi while Haaland recorded 11 captain votes.

Well, the tie breakers were Modric, Valverde and Mbappe himself. So direct your queries to them

cc: obonujoker, Ojeemah, Real Madrid won this award for Messi

😂😂😂😂

Happy New Year bro

ThierryJay:
Absolutely. I remember a lot of people here did not have clarity on the voting rules when the award opened and I even had to go and read through the Fifa brief to understand the criteria. Did they think many of those football captains have that patience?

They should have kept it simple.

exactly!

I had no idea abt the voting rules.

FIFA goofed. The award should be withdrawn or cancelled.

This one is not fair to Haaland. This could have compensated him for losing Balon D’or to Messi.

ThierryJay:
Personally, I did not expect Messi to win it. Obviously the World cup win still somehow had a major role to play and that blame rests on FIFA.

FIFA putting the voting commencement period in December must have confused several voters that the World cup was still a factor. Many of these footballers are not as arithmetically accurate as some of we fans and the WC sentiments played in. Voting period should have been clearly stated as Jan - Dec 2023.

This is the only Messi award that I'd clearly say another player deserves which is Haaland. I'm sure even Messi did not expect it and that may have influenced his absence.

Like I said the joke is on FIFA and doesn't take anything away from Messi's previous successes. Messi is the GOAT but he wasnt the best player of 2023.

Samehere!

The date confused me too!

Imagine what it would have done to eligible voters

Beverlyjean:
U see ur bias ... who 4kin cares about inter miami that finished almost bottom of the table ... since when did American league become a criteria ....so u wanna compare premiership with that dead ligue1 ... even Napoli winning serie A is way more prestigious.... halaand won pfa ...Messi dintvwin best player in France

Apologies for my initial comment. I didn’t even know 19th December was clearly written on that document.

Happy New Year

DesChyko:
Well, I just gave you the document guiding this award's criteria and the World Cup year wasn't inclusive of the dates marked out for this award.

My remark on the non-existent standby FIFA Calendar is that the dates given for Men's POTY 2022 is 8/1/2021 to 12/18/2022 (15 months +). For Men's POTY 2023 is 12/19/2022 to 8/20/2023 (exactly 8 months). The disparity nullifies anything about a regularised calendar claim in this case.

That being said, the World Cup edition was strictly 2022. Instead of trying to make sense of the obvious gaffe, It makes more sense rather, to blame the participants, who probably didn't understand or bother with the rules anyway 🫤

You are correct💯 I didn’t even know 19th December was clearly written on that document. My apologies.

This document shows Messi is not a worthy recipient. Therefore, the award should be withdrawn and given to Haaland with immediate effect.

DesChyko:
The dates are clearly documented and defined as 'performance on the pitch from 12/19 to 8/20.

There is no such thing as this FIFA Calendar you're inventing in this case. 🫤

unless you don’t know. FIFA & French Football Magazine have different calendars

Balon D’or is judged by season performance.

FIFA award is based on what you achieved between the time under review.

Benzema didn’t win 2022 FIFA award for this reason.

I am not inventing anything. FIFA and French football made it public sometime ago because more people are getting confused abt this award.

I will share it as soon as I see it. A thread was even created on NL

DesChyko:
Nope. The end date of FIFA The Best 2022 was December 18.

World Cup ended on the 18th of Dec 2022. If they had played World Cup during the summer, it would have been different but new FIFA calendar starts in December every year.

The coaches and captains that voted know this

obonujoker:
What did Messi do over Haaland last year?

Messi won WC
Haaland won UCL

Messi won Ligue 1
Haaland won EPL

Messi won League Cup
Haaland won FA Cup

Messi won Golden Ball
Haaland won UEFA Best

Haaland won European Golden Boot too

Can you now see both players had similar achievements?

You blame French Football for allowing Journalists to vote. Now national team coaches and captains have voted, you still de complain.

I don’t even care abt this award. I wanted Haaland to win but no be us de decide am bro.

obonujoker:
See Ojeemah supporting corruption 😂😂😂🤣

I'm still wanting for these guys too...😂

Theirryjay
Almiron
Numerouno94
And other uefalona fans

So why didn't Martinez win best goal keeper, but Ederson of man city won it...

what did Martinez do with Aston Villa last season/year?

The award is not just because Messi won the World Cup.