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DesChyko:
Interesting.

If Messi won FIFA The Best in 2022 for his exploits at the World Cup 2022, for what reason did he win 2023, especially as Inter Miami weren't the best team, not he the best performer out of the US in 2023 and the World Cup was not under the year in review.

This is ridiculous. It's probably a good thing all the three finalists including him boycotted the event.

His World Cup victory is still within 2023 FIFA calendar.

Won Ligue with PSG…. He contributed 20 goals and 20 assist for PSG last season.

Won League Cup with Inter Miami (their first ever trophy) struck 11goals and assisted 5 in 14 games.

Beverlyjean:
Can someone tell me what Messi did in 2023... this has vindicated those that have been saying some of his awards are undeserving... or they decided to give him for what he did 2 yrs ago... but the Argentine coach wasn't nominated for coach of the year , if its about the world cup

In 2022, Messi won Balon D’or while Lewandoski was awarded FIFA Best.

Y’all hailed criticized and slandered French Football Magazine and hailed FIFA for doing the right thing.

Several articles were written to criticize Messi and Balon D’or organizers.

At some point, you guys even said FIFA Best is more prestigious cos it’s not voted by journalists but coaches and national team captains.

National team coaches & captains have just voted Messi to win another FIFA Best yet you are still trying to change the narrative.

tuzle:
u are 100% right. This award is meant to be for Performance of 2023 o but they still gave Messi over haaland just imagine. What did Messi do better than almost half of mancity squad in 2023?

Messi was voted by coaches, players, Journalists and fans.

You don’t know better than all these people.

Plus there are criteria(s) for this every award. If Messi does not meet those criteria(s), he will not even be nominated.

Nobody cried or criticized FIFA in 2018 when Messi had the best individual stats….yet Messi did not even make top 3 that year.

Beverlyjean:
Can someone tell me what Messi did in 2023... this has vindicated those that have been saying some of his awards are undeserving... or they decided to give him for what he did 2 yrs ago... but the Argentine coach wasn't nominated for coach of the year , if its about the world cup

did his coach win the league or any other trophy like Messi did with PSG & Inter Miami?

Messi won ligue just like Haaland EPL with Man City.

Messi also won League Cup with Inter Miami just like Haaland won FA cup with Man City.

World Cup is not the sole reason Messi won but it placed Messi ahead of other candidates.

Aside all these, Messi contributed 40goals in PSG last season. 20 goals & 20 assists

Lets not try to twist logic here.

Jokerman:
Pessi is so hypocritical and puerile

so you believe this news too😳

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/alejandro-garnacho-brother-insists-man-utd-star-never-unfollowed-lionel-messi-rio-ferdinand-incorrect-cristiano-ronaldo/blt052689e73342a5e0

SyrusdeHansome:
If na Ronaldo showcase dat kind behaviour na wetin u for comment be dis? Double-faced hypocrite!

No let hatred blind you. Na fake news!

https://www.goal.com/en-ng/lists/alejandro-garnacho-brother-insists-man-utd-star-never-unfollowed-lionel-messi-rio-ferdinand-incorrect-cristiano-ronaldo/blt052689e73342a5e0

TheSuperX:
Mbappe might be younger but he's matured than Penaldo.

Messi may not be his idol but honor should be give to whoever deserves it and that is exactly what Mbappe has done. Unlike Ronaldo who would hide behind his sister’s account to criticize Messi or go comment or like a post slandering Messi. He has proven to be a petty person overtime.

ThierryJay:
Shey na only EPL pundits dey vote World best or Ballon Dor or even operate renowned sports tabloid? How are you even thinking

You are just farting your subjective opinion all over this thread. Will Messi or other Barca players give you an answer based on Henry's time before joining Barca? How would you even know their response? Through yet more subjective drivel??

You think football started in 2006? when some of us have been following the sport avidly more than a decade earlier? 

Your claim about Etoo is ten kobo a dime which anyone can make. But the harder part is to infuse sense into it which is sadly lacking in your submissions. Imagine calling Eto'o Barca's main man in 2006 when it was obviously Dinho. By 2007 Messi had become Barca's main man.

Henry is more decorated than Eto'o both collectively and individually. He scored more beautiful goals than Eto and was rated higher than Eto'o in ALL global sports tabloid lists of the best ever. So, sorry an uninformed fan's opinion don't count.

It's obviously a waste of precious time continuing this discourse with you. You can continue to bray afterwards but I will no longer respond.

knock out

ThierryJay:
You dey mind am. Just spewing opinionated stuff as assertions without any valid backing.

from their comments, you would know they didn’t watch prime Henry. They started watching ball from 05 when Henry was almost past his prime.

JayJayShow:
Bro, honnestly speaking how can u believe Henry was better than Eto'o ? It seems like we didn't watch the same football.

Most of you didn’t watch 2000-2006 Henry. You probably saw 2005-2010 Eto’o at a time Henry was about hanging his boot in football.

Henry is rated behind R9 in the conversation for greatest striker. Eto’o no de top 5.

mayor1814:
Keep creating ur own happiness in fool paradise. Making a mess of yourself in public space. All the so called socios u have been shouting, u will never see any recognized pundit, sport journal, a.i. chat gpt, google, etc rate Samuel Eto in top 10 greatest strikers ever. U will never see him in top 20 greatest players of all time. Everyone cannot be sentimental like u.


Like I said, I'm a football enthusiast. I'm not sentimental or attached to any club, player or leagues. I see what u offer as a player. I see reality on the pitch. That way I enjoy football better. I see things clearly.

Na my brother wen de ICU be my problem now if not, I would have schooled him.

[quote author=dadabashua1 post=126970671][/quote]maybe na YouTube videos of Eto e watch for him to think Eto was on Henry's level.

Etoodinho910:
Eto'o was better based on overall stats in their carreer, big games, stats in their prime, records, trophies being instrumental and of course technical abilities. Henry can have golden boots but he didn't score more than Eto'o, winning the golden boot with 25 and 30 goals doesn't make you a better striker than Eto'o.

Eto’o was never and has never been a match for Henry.

If you truly watch both players, you will not come up with something like this except Ofcos you are writing based on sentiment.

If you compare their prime Eto’o stand no chance.
European golden boot(0)
Eto’o (0)
Henry(2)

UCL top scorer
Eto’o (0)
Henry (0)

EPL/La liga top scorer
Eto (2)
Henry (4)

FIFA/Balon D’or nomination
Eto(1)
Henry (2)

List Eto’o record. Let me drop Henry’s

Henry was top scorer for France in 1998 World Cup and Euro2000

Or you want us to discuss how Henry led Arsenal invincibles?

By instrumental to trophies, Eto scoring in UCL final makes him a better player?

Is Di Maria better than Messi cos he scored in finals?

Cos other than that, I don’t understand what you mean by instrumental cos Henry still remain the only player in EPL to deliver 24goals and 20assists. A feat Eto can only dream. If this is not being instrumental, then I wonder what instrumental means to you.

For every Eto’s achievement, Ronaldinho was the man behind their success

2006 UCL victory, Ronaldinho was their Best player not Eto.

2009, Messi was Barcelona and UEFA best player

2010 with inter Milan, Milito topped goal chart and was also voted inter Milan and UEFA Best

If you did watch Henry the way you claim to have watched Eto, you go know say technically na only De Lima beat Henry. Henry that had speed, can make good use of his head, can also dribble defenders, free kick and all

Infact, Eto’o score free kick during him playing days? Henry scored 12.

Winning golden boot with 25-30goals makes Henry better cos of his consistency in doing it. Is winning 4 EPL top scorer a joke to you?

The golden boots Eto won in Spain, how many goals did he score? 25 & 26 respectively.

If Henry had that Barcelona team during his prime, we would not be having this conversation.

Despite playing with better players and for a better team, Eto no fit win one UCL top scorer or European Golden boot. You de compare am with Henry that

Even Suarez that played in Ronaldo and Messi’s era manage to win 2

"Leo Messi deserves it. In terms of individual performances at a tournament, I've never seen a footballer play as consistently as this guy. You have to bear in mind that he's never played for clubs that I like, which proves that I'm serious."

Toni Kroos

"It wouldn’t be logical to not give the Ballon d’Or to the best player in history in the year that he won the World Cup."

Eden Hazard

"If you ask me who I think will win, I will say Messi will win it thanks to his World Cup triumph. It still has an impact."

Norway boss Stale Solbakken

“It was rigged for Messi”

Penaldians😂😂

wunmi590:
Not too many people watched him when he was playing, some kids only know him while he was a coach and went back to watch his old clips..

Nah small piking plenty dey watch football now, come dey argue with their elders, mostly on nairaland 😆

You anre right. na those kids argue pass on this forum.

some people can’t relate

ThierryJay:

😂😂😂😂😂

If you didn’t enjoy watching Zizou during his playing days, then you no love football.

Zidane was class

2BabaNairaland:
We know what we know.


I pray for you, may your glory should not be dashed to someone else.

what you know is not true in this case.

At the bolded, no bother yourself cos blackmail doesn’t work on me.

You and I do not know better than those that voted. The best we can do is give our opinion.

Your judgement is based on sentiment cos you don’t have any prove to back up your claim of robbery.

Nobody don complain to us say, they change his/her vote from Haaland to Messi.

And it’s actually because of people like you that, French football magazine made sure a list showing country by country vote was released to show transparency.

2BabaNairaland:
I can't believe you.

2022/2023 was his time. He was robbed, that is a fact.

nobody robbed him. They both deserve it. It’s just unfortunate that he didn’t win.

You guys should stop pushing false narrative. It doesn’t make sense.

World Cup aside, Messi had a good season with PSG. 20goals + 20 assists plus 7 World Cup goals and 3 or 4 assists.

Won ligue one just like Haaland won EPL
Won World Cup just like Haaland won UCL
Won League cup with Inter Miami just like Haaland won FA
Won trophee de champions

Danmisra:
The want to justify their corrupt act

Kelvin Debruyne did not say this.

Germany- Messi
England- Messi
Spain- Messi
Netherlands- Messi
Belgium- Messi
Croatia- Messi
Brazil- Messi

Top footballing nations voted Messi except France.

France voted Haaland cos he seem to be the only candidate that could’ve stopped Messi.

Ronaldo de cry but Portugal reduced Haaland chance by voting for Bernardo that stood no chance

Jokerman:
From a world cup winning coach 😂

He said, it is ”difficult” not that Messi isn’t better. He spoilt it by adding Mbappe’s name.

AImiron:
oh really, what a miserable soul, na their likes Dey support penado . Me I no sabi him, you know say dem plenty wey dey mention me. If one moniker repeat mentions I go scan through their profile. I don ignore am sha…. The mentions won’t keep coming I gotta give these penadogs bloody nose. Hope you’re having a good day brother .

The guy na psycho.

Yes, it’s going well. Hope you de alright too?

AImiron:
You’re just another dvmbfck, this is Nairaland a public forum, but cos na your fav you turn motivational speaker. This is a faceless forum no need to boast about myself. I’m just here to cause ppl like you unending pain.

It’s obvious from your post that Nigeria is showing you premium shege, sorry poor boy, I’m not responsible for misfortunes in life but I will like to add more for you. Good things will always elude you till the end of your miserable life.

I was right afterwards just a simple click on your profile your yansh open. Instead of you to look for ways to fix your life offline, you Dey Nairaland Dey drag with made ppl, lil boy no one’s coming to save you, nah hunger and the problem go kee you

You’re already experiencing hell on earth 😂😂

You get time de answer that werey?

Na that guy make me stop to help/support people on NL

E use him brother for prison lie de collect money from people. One guy expose am, naso e begin insult me and the guy……continuously de mention our names on any thread e comment or create with him old moniker

Ade1177:
Modric didn't win world cup

And was not the best player in the world cup

France had better players in the 2018 world cup

Modric won Because Ronaldo shot himself in the leg by leaving Madrid the way he did

He should have waited till after

No way Rondaldo would be in Madrid in that awesome 2018 season after the 3rd champions league in a row and that over head bicycle kick

And modric win it

Modric won Because they added his real madrid performance in la liga and champions league TOGETHER with the world cup

Modric was World Cup golden ball winner

Ugaboy:
Di Maria won the World Cup, yet it seems like nobody acknowledges his achievement now. With Messi, everyone is bringing up various arguments and conditions to justify his deserving of recognition.

Take a look at Erling Haaland's success in the English Premier League (EPL). Not even Mo Salah was able to achieve such a remarkable record. Haaland aims to break all of Ronaldo's goal and trophy records in a single season.

If you support Messi's victory, it's only fair to support * as well. It's important to use common sense even when you have hair on your head.

Scoring in finals alone does not make Di Maria a match or better than Messi except you want to tell me nothing else matter apart from scoring in finals.

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored a screamer against Mexico to give them hope of qualification?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored the opener in the round of 16 against Australia?

Where was Di Maria when Alvarez scored Messi’s defence splitting pass against Netherlands in quarter final?

Where was Di Maria when Messi scored from the spot and humiliated Gvardiol to create the third goal for Alvarez against Croatia in the semis?

Where was Di Maria in Copa America before the final?

Where was Di Maria in Olympics before the final?

forgiveness:
Ballon'dOr is an European title not for the best in the world. FIFA award is for the best in the world.

so who won the last FIFA best?

Same MESSI

DataAlchemist:
What are you saying?? why didn't pep won the treble then before the arrival of haaland?? and mind you, city didn't make haaland, the young boy has always been a prolific striker right from his days in salzburg, or was kdb and silva with him in dortmund What else does a striker needs to prove how good he is if not goals?? Is lewandowski and benzema a good dribbler??

scoring 57goals in a season while winning almost all trophies is not enough to win the balon d or?? aside winning worldcup what was messi contribution last season??

The bolded, Just like Haaland, Messi won 3 trophies(World cup, Ligue one and Trophee de champions).

Messi contributed 40 G/A at PSG last season. 21goal & 20 assists.

Messi’s 12goals for Inter Miami helped them win the first trophy in their history

Scored goals for Argentina including 7at the World Cup.

He won WC Golden ball, broke numerous records at the World Cup including scoring at every stage at the World Cup and also becoming the highest goal scorer in European leagues 496.

For me, both players deserve to win the award. Haaland is just unfortunate that Messi won the World Cup in the same year, he had a superb performance.

Jokerman:
So why did SerieA give Kwara best player over Osihmen.??

Italians and racism.

Salah finished ahead of Saka & Odegaard that were nominated for PFA awards last season.

Can you now see there’s no formula to getting nomination and winning this award?

Most goals in a calendar year 91
Most European golden boot 6
Most trophies 44
European league top scorer 496
Consecutive games scored in la liga 21
First and only player to score in every stage of the World Cup

Focusmind:
Haalland deserved that award more. Winning the world Cup should not just be the only yardstick. Someone that one a domestic treble and champions league should be in a poll position to win the Balloon award.

and you forgot Messi did not just win the World Cup, he also won ligue one and trophee de champions?

Plus 42goals & 26 assists