There is this language called Swahili,it is soothing to the ear, I crave for it, if there should be a central language among all africans, I would wish we go for that language
Thebadpolitican: Lol, am a uniben student myself and a graduate my friend you don't read that is the fact don't
Daluhe does not mean anything
Benin greet is a family name not a name of a location or village
I am from uselu and we greet Lani
And not Laniuselu.....
Nobody greet the name of the village in benin Apart from the said usen people who are trying to twist their greeting to support the ife claims for the palace
Same way they twisted the meaning of ogiemen( Duke of the sea) to ogiemien( we know only the oba and not nothing else)
If you dey uniben make we meet I leave around there you need much schooling
Apart from usen which other benin people greet the name of their village?
You cannot be a Uniben student and a graduate at the same time, you already expose your folly, you are gregyboy the Auchi student or graduate,you write like him, and worse still you directed me to your deadpost. Of all Binis here, gregyboy.
Delauhe means everything idiot, timestamp 09:57 -10-30, the Esogban made it clear where he came from
Some communities are homogeneous, and tend to greet alike. Usen is a family on its own, it is a small community, home and abroad should be about 60- 70 thousand, lesser than some families in Benin. The fact that they migrated together did not tell your 0 byte brain that they are a family
The people of Ehor aside their king also greet Alike. They greet Delaeho to show their homogeinity as a family. The people of Ehor also greet to show their village time stamp 9:45 to 9:55
Thebadpolitican: Lol, must the oba migrate are so obsessed with this oba migration of a thing ask yourself how many history have you heard where their kings migrated from a particular place, so oba of benin cannot be from bini without migrating from anywhere
All this are just a twist to make the false story look real talking about usen and uhe
After the bini people left the western region with anger, it was now a battle of historical supiority and tribal bashing
Oba eweka11 was the one who made the political treaty between the yoruba people and edo people for a political unification and he agreed he was a son of oduduwa After his death his son akenzua ascended the throne he wasn't pleased the way the yoruba in the western region treated we edos, and he sort to pull out from the region, when he succeeded he then started his own version of oduduwa coming from benin to spite the yorubas who were oppressing them in the western region And till date instead instead of the palace withdrawing from the false history they continued for the purpose of tribal bashing Now the present oba has taking a further step to make history more real for further tribal bashing by creating an event called "ugie oduduwa" something that was never celebrated before, this are just further plot to make the bini side of the false history look real The yorubas on their own side created a shrine called "orun oba ado" few years ago too to support their claims
To confuse people like ugbe who wouldnt read
Are you saying because the urhobo, esan and the rest Nigeria have it in their history that they witnessed the ogiso Era so there could be a truth in it, listening to yourself na
It's not just urhobo and esan that have it in the history of such false witness the rest Nigeria do too, because they can easily get the information from the net and apply it to their history there is nothing special in that my friend even the ijaws use the narrative too People who don't know their history to start with would use the ogiso false history to spite edo like what the ijaw are still doing
Ekaladeran history actually did exist but it was later twisted for the tribal bashing Ekaladeran history had nothing to do with the yorubas just the Benin only
Uhe was the village ekaladeran went to to seek for refuge when he left is fathers palace to be assainated the village later became what is now called ughoton Now ekaladeran was an enogie son not necessarily an oba son
The usen people claiming uhe today are just trying to twist the narrative with what the palace wants to make the naarstive on the bini side look real, because they are ones who are bilingual between yoruba and edo
It is simple why are the usen people bilingual geographically they are in the border between an edo town and a yoruba settlement
So it not necessarily because they migrated from ife, if you leave on the border between two tribe or two nations you all will definitely be bilingual in nature
This is Ugbe,I was banned in my other account, Auchi graduate is telling a Uniben graduate that he does not read. you that attended Auchi, I should not have replied you in the first place, we are not mate.
The Usen people also invented their family salutation right, "Delauhe" or they also got it from associating with other Edo groups around.You don't have a mind of your own, you are tossed to and fro like the wind.
MENELIIK: I laugh in Swahili, Kingdom is lower than an Empire in all ramifications, also anybody can put any information on Wikipedia, just like it puts Kwara in South West which is not true. Benin republic is pronounced "Bene" and not Benin just like Niger republic is not the same Niger state in Nigeria. War conquests and dominance was reported about Oyo empire, Benin only had cultural influence some of the tribes around her and that Benin conquer Lagos, please stop it, this is not beer parlour discussion
go and read, the Binis had more war of conquest than OYo by a mile and her empire lasted far more than OYo and as can be seen from that excerpt above Lagos paid tribute to Benin. Your tears and emotions will not save you
MENELIIK: [s]Oga, enough of your revisionist history, Oyo empire was never a confederacy because it controlled all the units under it until the decline in its power which is common to most empires like Mali, Ghana and Songhai. To have called anybody Oba confirmed the fact that Oranmiyan, the first Alaafin of Oyo established Benin Kindgom. Intermarriages is why Yoruba is having Omowumi and Itsekiri is having Omawumi, please try another logic, you are free to believe whatever you want to but the issue Oba Yewande or Osewande to Akintoye is too pedestrian. Yoruba owns the word "Oba" and anybody using it has a link with the Yorubas[/s].
Itsekiri and Olukumi are yoruba or yoruboid groups, They have Yoruba name because they are Yorubas not because of OYo kingdom. the only reason you have Yorubas in delta state,is the same reason you have Aniocha, Ika ,Ukwuani, and Oshimili which are Igboid groups, the same reason you have Usen in Edo state a yoruboid group is the reason you have Igbanke an Igboid group. They are big tribes and they are seen everywhere. Did Igbos evolve an empire No.
And also the interpretation of the name was flawed, it is an Edo name.Osewende- it means My God does not fail.
After having more than 35 Esan and Bini mothers, The Edo blood in him compare to the Yoruba is 90 to 10, he is just as Edo as I an aborigine, or even more Edo than Obaseki who his patriarch migrated just 300 years ago. What he has that can be refered to as Yoruba is his paternal ancestor Oranyan of over 800 years ago and the Oba title that stuck.
The Oba is part and parcel of the Bini race, He is the very fulcrum that drives our existence, the pillar and the representation for what Bini stand for. A man who his ancestor migrated 8hundred years ago to Benin cannot be said to be a foreigner by those who were not alive as at the time he migrated here. We received other migrations too recent ones even, from stock who are very proud of the Bini ethnicity, the Oba himself Identifies as Bini not yoruba very proud Bini at that. That is what Hubbard meant when he said, “the Oba was not only the civil head of the state; he was also the religious base as well. He was in fact, regarded as a divine person who in himself summed up the whole of the race…
The argument was not about if the ruling house was not Yoruba by ancestry, the argument was that Lagos was under Benin empire and Benin collected tribute from her as a Overlord as we have seen from that excerpt.
"The products of the blacksmith guilds were also means by which the Oba determined the loyalty or otherwise of a vassal states to Benin kingdom. They were also the means by which the Oba legitimized the rulers in the vassal states. The “emblem of authority” or “staff of office” sent by Oba Osemwende (c.1816) to king Akintoye of Lagos in the course of the 1850s symbolized the Oba’s hegemony over Lagos and the legitimization of the Akintoye’s reign over his people. The acceptance of this emblem implied the King of Lagos’ recognition of the over-lordship of the Oba of Benin; with the obligation of annual tributes to Benin (A.F.C. Ryder, 1977, p.14)."
MENELIIK: [s]There was no other empire in pre colonial southern Nigeria other than Oyo, Benin was a kingdom and never expanded to any Lagos. You can't find any Benin name in any of the six Yoruba states but there people with Yoruba names in Edo and Delta[/s].
The fact that there are yoruba names in Edo and delta have nothing to do with OYo kingdom. It is because Yoruba is a big tribe and nothing else, and the other tribes you see some of them with Yoruba names it is as a result of intermarriage, proximity to yoruba land or the fact they grew up there. And yes Lagos was under Benin empire. OYo was a confederacy, not really an empire in the actual sense
"The products of the blacksmith guilds were also means by which the Oba determined the loyalty or otherwise of a vassal states to Benin kingdom. They were also the means by which the Oba legitimized the rulers in the vassal states. The “emblem of authority” or “staff of office” sent by Oba Osemwende (c.1816) to king Akintoye of Lagos in the course of the 1850s symbolized the Oba’s hegemony over Lagos and the legitimization of the Akintoye’s reign over his people. The acceptance of this emblem implied the King of Lagos’ recognition of the over-lordship of the Oba of Benin; with the obligation of annual tributes to Benin (A.F.C. Ryder, 1977, p.14)."