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lovingJehovah:
Yes, I am a full timer and with all due respect, your aggression is unworthy. I didn't insult you or incite hatred toward Islam. All I did was ask you questions about the religion that you put your faith in and claim to be the only true religion above mine. You said that mine is man made. So, I am curious to get the answers from you. There must be reasons why yours is the religion from God as you said. I accept to be ignorant to Islam so edify me by answering my questions.
Listen, I know the art of pivoting so do not dodge my questions by using sentimental slurs.
We will have a private chat for sure but for the interest of having a closure on the issue that you raised on this thread, kindly respond to my questions.
I will repost them here to make it easy for you.
QUESTIONS

If your koran is truly a book from God and brought to Mohammed by angel Jibril (Gabriel), when does it say that the world would end?
What prophecies in the koran has achieved notable and accurate fulfilment?
Does the koran give historical names of notable people in history that scientists or archaeologists have been able to reconcile? If yes, give us reference please.
The Bible that you critic contains detail in history that we find useful and staggering. I will like to see such in the koran for example, do you believe in the hanging garden of Babylon? Do you believe that there was someone called sennacherib in history?
What does Jerusalem mean to Islam?
Compare Jerusalem and Mecca in Islam.
What is the koran, a book of the law, a history book, a book of God, a book of the angel or a book of the prophet?

In what language was the 10 commandments given to Musa written?
If it wasn't Arabic, why was the koran then written in Arabic?
What is the language of the Angels since angel Jibril spoke Arabic to Mohammed?
How logical is it to have a book written in a strange language, recited by adults who cannot understand that language, and yet claim that their faiths are in that book?
When was the Koran first translated?
In what language were you taught the koran?
Are you an Arab?
If you believe in Musa(Moses), what was the name that Musa called his God and in what language?
What historical trace links you to the God of Musa?
If Islam was so pure, why are all Islamic states failing?
If the God of Islam is true, why wasn't he able to defeat the God of the Jews?
In what way was Musa given the 10 Commandments and in what way did Mohammed receive his message?
Why the confusing method of communication? Could it have been different God's?
Allah is a title (God), what, then, is the true name of Allah? (Reconcile it with the name Musa called his God and provide evidence)
When was the first pronouncement of the word 'Allah'?
Before your mysterious visitation of Mohammed by the angel, what god did Mohammed worship? In what book did he find the law of his god? And what is that book called?
Why is Mohammed more popular than Musa or Ibrahim?
Why is Mohammed's book given superior consideration than Musa' book?
Why is sex and virginity the highest reward to Muslim heroes?
If you believe in Isa(Jesus) as a messenger as your koran says, where are the messages that he preached written?
If God could send Jibril to write a book, why then did he send so many messengers?
If your god is the truth, why do you face the east? Does he live in the Sun?
If you worship the same God as Musa, did he face the east to pray?
What relationship does the worship of God have with the moon?
Did Musa observe the moon?
If Islam is truly the best religion, why isn't Saudi Arabia your holy land taking in Muslim refugees?
Why did 3 Islamic states lose to Israel in the 60ies n 70ies?
Why have Muslims taken up guns and bombs when your prophet says sword?
Why are you socialising with the infidels on this thread, have you come with the motive to cut the neck?
Why are Muslims still puppets to the west?

lovingJehovah:
I am still waiting for your answers. Since you know how to run over the Bible and talk about its contradictions, kindly answer all my questions. I will add more here. Please, do not run away. Answer them one by one.

If your koran is truly a book from God and brought to Mohammed by angel Jibril (Gabriel), when does it say that the world would end?
What prophecies in the koran has achieved notable and accurate fulfilment?
Has any archaeologist used the koran to trace relics of past kingdoms in history?
Does the koran give historical names of notable people in history that scientists or archaeologists have been able to reconcile? If yes, give us reference please.
The Bible that you critic contains detail in history that we find useful and staggering. I will like to see such in the koran for example, do you believe in the hanging garden of Babylon? Do you believe that there was someone called sennacherib in history?
What does Jerusalem mean to Islam?
Compare Jerusalem and Mecca in Islam.
What is the koran, a book of the law, a history book, a book of God, a book of the angel or a book of the prophet?

lovingJehovah:
It is very odd and disrespectful for a Muslim to jump on a thread opened for Christians to cause a digression. You may open a thread and get Muslim scholars to debate with you on your religious subjects. You simply want to cause a confusion here and that is an Ishmaelite attitude.

jerflakes:
We're still saying the same thing

The OP asked whether those speaking bad of Jesus are cursed

The answer is No, he is here to serve us, to die for us

mexxmoney:
I understand where you're headed. You're pointing out the contradictions in the different accounts of certain events in the Bible. This discussion will not afford me the time and space to recount the full history of how the bible was written but let me be specific to the issue I believe you're raising i.e the contradictions. Some parts of the Bible are just a recounting of historical events the way the author saw it or heard about it. Some of the authors were present when it occurred while others were not and simply recorded what they heard from others. And these accounts were written by people separated by location and time(they were in different locations and there were huge time gaps between their different writings) hence it is not surprising that there could be slight variations in their recalling of the events that took place. But I want you to note this, these seeming contradictions only occur in retelling of historical events the way the authors remembered or heard about them, it never occurs in matters of doctrine and faith in the Bible.

GodsMopol:
I don't know who Issa is, but if that Issa is Jesus, you are wrong

Lemme ask, in Quran 2:34-35, a phrase termed "We" was used, can you explain who the "We" is referring to, noting that v34 used the Word, we command the Angels to Worship Man, so it can never be referring to Angels, so cage yourself

lovingJehovah:
The Bible does not cause any confusion. The confusion stems from the Devil. There are many heretics teaching falsehood about God and they have spread the falsehood around the world for centuries.
John 17:3 Jesus himself referred to his father as the ONLY TRUE GOD.
Let me put it this way. if I meet you in person and you tell me about your family. In your words, you confess to me that your father is the man of the house. Then, I go about telling people that you are also the man of the house because you are a male child. That would be disrespectful to your father if he gets to hear such stories spread about in the city because he birthed and provides for you. He gave you authority over his property and business. That does not equal you to your father. You remain a son and not a coequal.
The truth is, Jesus in John 20:17 told everyone who has access to read or hear the Bible's message that Jehovah is his father and God. He proceeded by saying that the same God (that he called God to anyone who reads and hears the words that he spoke) is his(Jesus') God in turn. Fast-forward about 2000 years after, people are spreading falsehood that Jesus lied to us. That he(Jesus) is the man that he(Jesus) called his God while he was with them. that is it the same person and also a coequal. Is it logical for someone to be your God and at the same time be your father and your coequal? It would have been an expensive prank to play.
God is not a God of confusion. The idea is they are trying too hard to co-equalise God and Jesus. I guarantee you that it doesn't end there. If you fall for that, remember that another entity is on the line to be co-equaled. We are only talking about God and Jesus here and you can imagine the controversy and outright rejection of Jesus' words by people who claim that Jesus is their God. There is a dogma of the godhead and as soon as they whoosh you by co-equaling God and Jesus, the holy spirit becomes another God that must be added to complete that doctrine.
This is very unbiblical. The Bible clearly states in 1 Corinthians 8:6 that there are other gods but "to us" there is only one God, Jehovah, and one Lord, Jesus. You may wonder, when the Bible says "to us", do these people arguing to deify Jesus fall under "to us" or not?
Jehovah is THE ONLY TRUE GOD - Jesus words in John 17:3
Jesus is our Lord and mediator - 1 Corinthians 8:6; 1 Timothy 2:5

keenness:
Jesus was sent by the most High God to the Whole word. First, you must know that he was sent by God to every creature,

keenness:
" and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved son, in whom i am well pleased; hear him."Mathew 17:5b. Secondly, you must know that God created all man- " so God created man in His own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created He them"

keenness:
Genesis 1:27. The purpose of Jesus' coming to earth is to fulfill the will of God, which is that ALL MEN SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE AND BELIEVE IN HIS SON JESUS CHRIST. For God so love the WORLD ( everybody) that He gave His begotten son, that WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH in him should NOT PERISH, but have everlasting life. John 3:16. verse 17 says " For God sent not His son into the World to condem the world but that the world through him might be saved.

keenness:
Now you see from the above bible passages that it is ONLY JESUS that was sent by God to save the world from the power of sin and everlasting condemnation. Jesus confirmed this by himself in some bible passages:
in John 14:6, Jesus said I am the way, the truth and the life: NO MAN COME TO THE FATHER BUT BY ME. He said this with power and authority and not secretly. Jesus is the only way to God because he is the Only son and he is sent by God to the whole world not some set of people or race not even to a religion but to everyone that believe in Him.

keenness:
The bible passage you quoted was carnally mis-intepreted, Mathew 10: 5-6 " These twelve JESUS SENT forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the gentiles, and into any of the samaritans enter ye not: but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." This was a special assignment given by Jesus to his disciples while he was on earth and not him been sent. He was only given out a special task to his disciples and gave the restrictions to where they should go at that time. When he was glorified i.e resurrected he gave them power to fully go into all the world and preach the gospel to all nation. Act 1:8 " But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be WITNESSES unto me both in Jerusalem and in Judea and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth." Now u see him sending them to Samaria he initially commanded them not to go to. That assignment was for a special purpose. Mark 16:15 also says" And he said unto them go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. "Jesus came for the whole world. If Jesus Christ has not come for all, i would not have known him and believed on him, i mean i would not have been saved because by natural descent he is an Israelite and i am a Nigerian -a gentile. Listen to this: Jesus is preached everywhere and in every tongue and many in the whole univers are believing on him irrespective of nationalty. I invite you to believe in Jesus because there is no salvation anywhere but in him and him alone. God bless you.

D1official:
Itz so dis-heartening hw people who re nt part of us think dey knw beta.
Bro by his grace m nt just a theoretical Xtian, I hv seen multiple sicknesses vanish into thin air in seconds just to mention a few, I hv seen over tangible manifestations of d power of God, nt to talk of d peace, joy ND oda goodies it comes with.
Or u think m a believer of fear, running away frm hell? Lolz.
M nt here to debate anything with u, Christ never called us to.
He simply asked us to preach the truth, d truth needs no compulsion, it's either u believe it or u don't, still it changes nothing abt d truth.
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
First step to knowing God, is first accepting U knw nothing.
D gr8tst enemy of atheists ND unbelievers, is d same issues d devil had PRIDE!!!.
God bless u bro ND I pray u understand.

D1official:
Broda d spiritual realm is higher Dan it's physical counterpart, u can never use the physical realm to understand D spiritual bt rather d spiritual to understand D physical.
ND for dat to happen u must accept Christ Jesus wholeheartedly for his spirit which is d revelation of d word(Rhema)to Kom into u for proper revelation.
Dat is y God is d ultimate, he can't b scammed, if u aren't sincere in accepting Christ forgt it.
No matter what we explain to u as an unbeliever u can never have a revelation, cos d spirit aren't in you, so d first step is accepting Christ or keep on bn carnally logical.
1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I pray these helps, God bless u sir.

D1official:
Broda d spiritual realm is higher Dan it's physical counterpart, u can never use the physical realm to understand D spiritual bt rather d spiritual to understand D physical.
ND for dat to happen u must accept Christ Jesus wholeheartedly for his spirit which is d revelation of d word(Rhema)to Kom into u for proper revelation.
Dat is y God is d ultimate, he can't b scammed, if u aren't sincere in accepting Christ forgt it.
No matter what we explain to u as an unbeliever u can never have a revelation, cos d spirit aren't in you, so d first step is accepting Christ or keep on bn carnally logical.
1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
1 Corinthians 2:12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.

1 Corinthians 2:13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
I pray these helps, God bless u sir.

keenness:
Praise God! By the Grace of God, i will send you a message. And to all reader of this post, i must tell you with all conviction that the only way to truely know God is by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour and never by reasoning, reasoning will only get you in a void where you are in total darkness and confused. But if you accept Jesus, u will receive the power and divine wisdom needed to know God and believe Him without wavering. Jesus make God clear to your heart. God bless our generation.

keenness:
Praise God! By the Grace of God, i will send you a message. And to all reader of this post, i must tell you with all conviction that the only way to truely know God is by accepting Jesus as your personal Lord and saviour and never by reasoning, reasoning will only get you in a void where you are in total darkness and confused. But if you accept Jesus, u will receive the power and divine wisdom needed to know God and believe Him without wavering. Jesus make God clear to your heart. God bless our generation.

keenness:
Its well bro. The bible is not a logical book, it is completely spiritual. Your brain could only comprehend the literal meaning of the bible verses, the interpretation of the above bible passages is beyond the comprehension of your brain. It takes the Spirit of God to understand the word of God just as you can not understand and see God through your natural senses ( Now u see the problem). Give your life to Jesus and the mystry would be revealed to you. I would have love to explained it to u but i doubt if you've got the Spiritual capacity to understand it, God can not lie.
God bless you.

An2elect2:
Jesus didn't complain but was burdened by what was to befall Him. He told his disciples he would rebuild the temple in 3days. Not only was he prepared to die, it was His plan from the beginning. Even the means to his death were ordained by Him.

when he prayed at Gethsemane, he wasn't complaining but submitting to the Father's will . And nopy, the cup didnt pass over him.

Matthew 26:39
Going a little farther, he fell with his face
to the ground and prayed, "My Father, if it
is possible, may this cup be taken from
me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.

Baawaa:
Bible is not for polluted mind,

Baawaa:
Bible is not for polluted mind,

Nutase:
You are so ignorant and lazy not to put the sentence into context before drawing a conclusion.

Repentent in Gen 6:6 in the context of the full sentence means regret.
In Num 23:9 the word repent means to change.

Next time learn to read with an open mind and go and re-enrol in an English class to understand that one word can have numerous meanings based on the context in which it is used.

MightySparrow:
Yes.

patrickkkk:
If God said d sky was blue and u looked up into d sky to c it red. What does that mean? Does it mean he lied? The question u should ask yourself is what makes d sky red that u don't know of? God sets the standard for us to follow, he sees what we can't see when he expresses itself. GOD CAN NOT LIE!!!!

An2elect2:
Great question. Jesus had become sin on the cross (ie our sin was inputted in Christ.)
and because God could not behold sin and always forsakes Sinners, He did to Jesus what He would have done to all those Christ died for : Which is forsake and punish them for their sins.

Jesus' role was vicarious. He was the substitute, (bearing all their sins instead of them) for all those who would be saved by grace.

olamkas:
Good day house.
It's been a long time I visit here.
Good to tell you guys that my plantains at 7 months have started fruiting.