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ivolt:
The real question is what would happen to you and your continent.
With millions of beggarly being fed by the devilish west every year and many taking
perilious journey to the land of evil ones, we will probably have bandits
on every street corner.

Once the coast is clear ,many african countries will adjust to new realities.we have everything to build a continent,we were only victims of continious colonization .

Bubblewitch:
What would happen to the West of Russia teams up with China and they decide to form their own world power. Well let’s continue observing Africa

Power has shifted and many african countries support russia ,sudan ,parts of libya,CAR,Mali,Bukina faso,Angola ,only Nigeria and kenya were talking rubbish.

This is not text book economics! Or imf and world bank shit.

ariesbull:
something is wrong with you guys

And you hate tinubu for nothing,tinubu inceased his own from 600million to 2b internally generated revenue,he handed over to fashola ,who increased it,fashola handed over to ambode ,he also increased,now sanwolu ,its now 40billion a month.,but obi left money for obiano ,obiano emptied it and soludo will start all over again, is that how they develop a state.

ariesbull:
and Yoruba that is topping the most indebted list is what

Something is wrong with you,somebody left 300million for you has cash and 100billion has debt,even a secondary school accounting student understand this simple thing.You are comparing southeest state with yours.All the money shared to Anambra as federal allocation comes from which part of Nigeria.

GalaticHorde:
the mistake you make is in seeing the southeastern vote against awolowo as a vote against the southwest when it simply is a policy repudiation vote

That followed a pattern till date,so you can reach a conclusion from historical facts.Tinubu has never been governor in eastern Nigeria ,he has only been a senator and governor in Lagos but the hatred from the easterners need to researched in schools.

GalaticHorde:
oga which history books did you read? British colonisation started from the coast then through river routes via the oil rivers courtesy of the royal Niger company, soldiers were exclusively from southern and middlebelt stock as the sokoto caliphate was at war with the royal Niger company, lord lugard himself went on this campaign and was in command when the walls of kano and rano were breached! Hausas were hardly part of that army oga, and when they became part of the army they were admitted in trickles, the colonial army was southern and middlebeltan and the officer corps largely southern, don't mistake the current Nigerian army with the British colonial army of Nigeria we had at independence, that army was professional, our current army is mediocre by comparison. I know shagari wasn't a soldier but one of his close relatives made it to general in the army, I think he was a couple of years ahead of buhari, he is late now, I have no arguments about barewa college but power staying in the north and the underdevelopment of Nigeria served British interests so they created barewa college so that the largely uneducated north would start producing people to go into the Nigerian civil service dominated by educated southerners and water down the effect of southern pan-africanists inimical to British post colonial interests,

Seems you have mixed it up, expeditions started before merchandising and colonization,the portuguese and the arabs came before the british.The northners were called mohammadians by the british people.They already had islam through the arabs before the british came,they met usman dan fodio ,who had conquered the north and installed emirs .Nigeria use to be 2 countries , nigeria river area which is the south and mohammadians which was the core north and the pagans who where in chibok and tiv areas.colonization was not sudden they started through a business ,Mr Goldie owned the royal Niger company He later sold nigeria ,he was the one that employed lugard.places were conqured in bits.

GalaticHorde:
it wasn't a spoiler game. At least not in 1979, Igbo's were recovering from the civil war and had little to no political aspirations at the center, but they had regional interests on easy conduct of business, as I wasn't alive then, i take my parents account of it, they called awolowo foolish in his declaration to ban imports, they said that before that statement Igbo's were neither for or against awolowo, how is that a betrayal of Yorubas if the candidate was a honest idiot who vowed to work against your interests by banning the import and trade in second hand goods?
If igbos voted for obasonjo against olu falae both yorubas and obasonjo against buhari where is the spoiling happening? But a Yoruba vote against GEJ without any policy issue affecting them negatively at stake is the real definition of spoiling, an act of malice and an act of hatred

Can you send the link to the speech awolowo made to ban imports of these items?Thanks,even if its true does that not make sense?used clothings!Nigeria already was ahead of many countries in all areas of textile production.

GalaticHorde:
i don't know about that but if the southeast voted against him then the numbers do not add up in his favour

I think its morally okay,to support the region that supports you.After the civil war the west was the first to welcome easterners,accepted them rented there house to them gave them there property back.You use the hospitals,schools markets and because millionares.so is it not normal,that you will support such people politically,which will advance their region,and inturn further improve the life of the igbos that land every hour in places like lagos and ibadan. ,

GalaticHorde:
that is your take, my parents were alive then and can be adjudged politically neutral so I will go with their analysis, if igbos were told to believe all that you claimed when they know for a fact that Gowon was president then I guess the propaganda machine didn't start yesterday, but truth is all that couldn't be made to stick to awolowo as he was only in an advisory role in government, the executive positions were taken by northerners so a shagari presidency would have offended their sensitivities, i go with my parents analysis of awolowo being an honest idiot who alienated the southeast from him by his campaign utterances giving the opposition ammunition to use against him

Awolowo did all that for a purpose while he was a finance minister.Ojukuwu looted the central bamk in benin,so he changed the currency,what was bad in changing the currency to control the money in circulation and protect your countries currency during a war?
Awolowo went on inspection of the parts of eastern Nigeria during negotiation and saw people with kwashikor while the soliders and elites were very fat.What do you expect ,food that was meant for the people were diverted and captured by biafran soliders what do you expect him to do in a war.They stopped supplies.

20 pounds policy,after the war he told all igbos to go to the national bank of Nigeria,all igbos with deposits before the war,to write their names and amount they had in the bank.To the government suprise the names and amount written,was more that the whole deposit in all the nigerian banks at that time.people write tbeir names just to collect money.So awolowo decided to make sure it goes round by giving everyone a flat rate of 20 pounds.since then ,i have never heard the truth from any igbo person ,about what led to it.Only the wrong and emotional stories.

GalaticHorde:
the British used southerners and mainly northcentral minorities in the pre-independence Nigerian army because they postulated that the proliferation of intercenine warfare made the men from these areas good soldiers fodder, the officer corps came from educated southerners, the advent of the core north into the military only came after independence where unqualified dunces like the buharis and shagaris were taken in in a progrom driven by tafawa balewa for his northern agenda, i thought this was common history or don't they teach Nigerian history in schools anymore?

Shagari was not solider ,the british used hausa soliders to fight other ethnic nationslitord in history because the british always identify the martial tribe and the people that gave them.problems to conquer.The southereners were recruited into the army for admi istrative purposes,and not combat.Tbe people called the pag an tribe from the north were later recruited so as to have a balanced army.
They later created elite schools like that of Eton in england ,called Barewa college ,so has to groom and train the leaders of Nigeria,the school produced 4 heads of state.

GalaticHorde:
in 1979 the choice to vote shagari over awolowo was a business decision after awolowo openly addressed Igbo businessmen during campaign that he will ban most imports, igbos voted for obasonjo on two occasions, so your claim of a lack of Igbo support is only a half truth and factually incorrect! Not everything is about tribe, for more logical thinking folks, there are other issues that are more important like the economy, security, rule of law, democratic values e.t.c, that I harp on tribe this time is out of a sense of justice and fairness, if an igbo is ñot president in 2023 than I predict civil unrest and dissatisfaction in a region contiguous to mine and such unrest could easily spill into my region and then yours, the violence in the core north today once sounded far fetched years ago. And obasonjo winning the presidency despite losing his region just goes to show you that for all your perception of self worth as a region, you can't give Tinubu or any other southwesterner the presidency on your own

In politics ,you have to reach out to other nationalities,you have to beg,make friend and build trust.even afenifere supports igbo presidency,but i can tell you for free,the politicans do not know what they are doing.Allowing restructuring to take place and you can now contest ,it will not be attractive anymore.once its properly done. You dont have the numbers to win ,only rotimi amaechi can make an impact.he can gather some votes.

GalaticHorde:
in 1979 the choice to vote shagari over awolowo was a business decision after awolowo openly addressed Igbo businessmen during campaign that he will ban most imports, igbos voted for obasonjo on two occasions, so your claim of a lack of Igbo support is only a half truth and factually incorrect! Not everything is about tribe, for more logical thinking folks, there are other issues that are more important like the economy, security, rule of law, democratic values e.t.c, that I harp on tribe this time is out of a sense of justice and fairness, if an igbo is ñot president in 2023 than I predict civil unrest and dissatisfaction in a region contiguous to mine and such unrest could easily spill into my region and then yours, the violence in the core north today once sounded far fetched years ago. And obasonjo winning the presidency despite losing his region just goes to show you that for all your perception of self worth as a region, you can't give Tinubu or any other southwesterner the presidency on your own

If not for the igbos ,that always play the spolier game we would have reorganise this system in a very longtime.

allcomage:
And Obasanjo reached out from prison , penniless and won as president without sw votes?

Go onbthe inec website to see the election result for the election ,olu falae won in the southwest,He was alliance for democracy.

GalaticHorde:
in 1979 the choice to vote shagari over awolowo was a business decision after awolowo openly addressed Igbo businessmen during campaign that he will ban most imports, igbos voted for obasonjo on two occasions, so your claim of a lack of Igbo support is only a half truth and factually incorrect! Not everything is about tribe, for more logical thinking folks, there are other issues that are more important like the economy, security, rule of law, democratic values e.t.c, that I harp on tribe this time is out of a sense of justice and fairness, if an igbo is ñot president in 2023 than I predict civil unrest and dissatisfaction in a region contiguous to mine and such unrest could easily spill into my region and then yours, the violence in the core north today once sounded far fetched years ago. And obasonjo winning the presidency despite losing his region just goes to show you that for all your perception of self worth as a region, you can't give Tinubu or any other southwesterner the presidency on your own

Awolowo was the winner of the 1979 election but the courts were used to steal the elections from him ,using richard akinjide who was NPN lawyer.

GalaticHorde:
in 1979 the choice to vote shagari over awolowo was a business decision after awolowo openly addressed Igbo businessmen during campaign that he will ban most imports, igbos voted for obasonjo on two occasions, so your claim of a lack of Igbo support is only a half truth and factually incorrect! Not everything is about tribe, for more logical thinking folks, there are other issues that are more important like the economy, security, rule of law, democratic values e.t.c, that I harp on tribe this time is out of a sense of justice and fairness, if an igbo is ñot president in 2023 than I predict civil unrest and dissatisfaction in a region contiguous to mine and such unrest could easily spill into my region and then yours, the violence in the core north today once sounded far fetched years ago. And obasonjo winning the presidency despite losing his region just goes to show you that for all your perception of self worth as a region, you can't give Tinubu or any other southwesterner the presidency on your own

Igbos hate Awolowo that is a fact,they have been fed lies about him ,and igbos politicans use awolowo to gain politically by trying to tell the people ,he his their enemy.They believe he made them to loose the war ,because of food blockage,changing the currency during the war and 20 pound policy .They lie to them and even have books by igbo authors writing the same lies.so how can they vote awolowo.Igbos are very tribal and clanish,how can they leave alex ekueme and support another person.

allcomage:
And Obasanjo reached out from prison , penniless and won as president without sw votes?

Olu falae was the presidentail candidate that was supported by all yorubas.Obj never won any election in the southwest.He even begged all the governors in his 2nd term ,and he cheated them expect bola tinubu who never trusted him.He was supported by IBB and abudul salam.He used the power of the military ,not popular democracy.

GalaticHorde:
oga after eight years of obasonjo it wasn't à Hausa/Fulani military, it was a nigeria military, in fact until buhari became president it was never a Hausa/Fulani military so how you think they would have easily facilitated a coup in this internet age beats me.
On your second point everyone can do better in retrospect, that is the beauty of hindsight, having Said that, Jonathan took council seriously and tried to listen and please everyone most times against his better judgement and as a leader all that proved about him was that he actually and genuinely cared
You say in the whole south if things were right no one would have voted for buhari so pray tell, what exactly was wrong with the south? Apart from propaganda tabloids and their misdirecting headlines was there any calamity in the southwest? Southeast? Was militancy in the nigerdelta almost over? The only part of Nigeria that could make a genuine claim of things not being right was the northeast for obvious reasons yet they are not the ones claiming entitlement to the presidency

The nigerian military has always been loopsided and not a national army,the british organised it that was since the creation of Nigeria.so it remains that way.The southwest were never part of the GeJ government,all major appointments went to people of the southeast south south and the rst northerners,it was only when he wanted to do the 2nd term ,that he started to experiment and win approval by appointing people that could help him to win the elections.

4tomandchi:
Afonja pretending to be Igbo!!!

You people need to learn adoption instead of outright stealing .You can adopt legally,reduce bride price ,encourage early marriage,and invest in fertility.

Lies

More suprises await them.

PressMyButton:
I won't be surprised if Soludo ended up as a worse clown. How can any sensible person say it was a comedy an event whereby two mothers of the state were slapping and slut shaming each other. Soludo is a chain smoker with his burnt lips.

Can you tell obama that also,something is wrong with us

Kingozymandias:
It's not the turn of the Southsouth, it's the turn of the southeast.
The silence of the Southeast should worry everyone .. rightfully it's our turn to elad this great nation.. we are not more bedeviled with problems than any other tribe yet we are being denied our rightful shot at the fixing this nation .
Some people have asked me have we fixed the southeast ? I laugh because other regions have ruled yet they are still battling myriad problems so why are my people being denied our turn?

Salty suddenly zoning that has been used by every region to secure the slot has been jettisoned now it's the turn of my people and it Futher makes us feel disenfranchised and and marginalized.

Then tomorrow you turn around and wonder why sesssionists had such a willing ear in the people to listen?

You can't deny a people their rights and make them feel less and expect them to willingly want to stay in Nigeria .. that is wrong and tantamount to bullying.

Who in his or her right conscience can say it's not the turn of the Igbos ? Please who can in good honest faith say this ?

Why push a people so hard to the point just telling yourself they can do nothing ? Really ? A nation can never be built by brute force but by inter Corporations and unity. Let me tell you my fellow NIGERIANS , IPOB didn't have up to 10% of the Igbo people support forget those iliterate touts and their social media propaganda. But to deny my people our right this time around for whatever reason is telling the remaining 90% of us who rejected ipob that maybe just maybe those touts have a point.

Yes power isn't given ,yes I agree but as ever other region had it zoned to them and a consensus picked so should it be done for the Southeast

Great nation!

GalaticHorde:
i see you buy into conspiracy theories originated from the fumes of the dredges of drained and empty palmwine cups tapped from otta farm palm trees, so tell me, ibori would have staged a coup and the rest of Nigeria would have stood by idly?
Secondly, true Nigeria's politics has been ethnic and religious only to a certain extent and only in certain quaters, by and large before your support of buhari Nigerians have been united in opposition to buhari's religious extremism and fulanocentric parochialism, the victory of yaradua over buhari wasn't a Fulani against Fulani vote, the victory of good luck over buhari was a "the rest of us" (including the southwest) against a religious extremists core north vote, buhari's alleged victory in 2015 came after a massive rebranding of his image by the lagos-ibadan media about how he was a detribalised, irreligious patriot with stories of how his driver and cook are Igbo Christians, his first daughter is married to a Christian and courtesy of Obama's help propaganda was employed on a massive scale hitherto unheard of in nigerias electioneering, white was black, up was down, east was west and hitherto enlightened people started exhibiting stupidity of the highest order while the voices of reason were drowned in all the noise, fast forward 7yrs from then and we are all crying like some of us warned you all about.
And when you say a section of the country was dominant in Jonathan's government, oga step up with your full chest let's match facts with facts so I can prove to you that like the rest of tinubu's partisans you bought willy nilly into a lie and dirty propaganda without first pausing to reflect and think critically how it could be even probable talk less of possible, Jonathan had a cabinet of technocrats, ngozi okonjo iweala, Barth nnaji, the agric minister now the president of the Africa development bank, I have forgotten his name, these are guys headhunted for by mega corporations for their mouthwatering qualifications, not the nepotistic, lacklustre appointments of buhari like ngige, fashola, aregbesola and co
You bought into lies like $20billion is missing from the treasury, gen ihejirika is committing genocide against northerners, Jonathan is using bokoharam to decimate the population of the north and of recent diezani has a diamond bra worth millions of dollars, there is nothing Nigerian newspapers can not print and Nigerians like you believe making me doubt your claims to intelligence

Seems you think i am for somebody,i hope you still have the conversation that started this arguments in mind.its a known fact that igbos do not support yoruba political plans .And they have always voted and supported northerners.You wrote about obasonjo,he was not the real candidate and didnot win his ward ,state,southwest in that election.He was imposed by the owners of Nigeria,to compensate for abiola that was not handed the power.

GalaticHorde:
i see you buy into conspiracy theories originated from the fumes of the dredges of drained and empty palmwine cups tapped from otta farm palm trees, so tell me, ibori would have staged a coup and the rest of Nigeria would have stood by idly?
Secondly, true Nigeria's politics has been ethnic and religious only to a certain extent and only in certain quaters, by and large before your support of buhari Nigerians have been united in opposition to buhari's religious extremism and fulanocentric parochialism, the victory of yaradua over buhari wasn't a Fulani against Fulani vote, the victory of good luck over buhari was a "the rest of us" (including the southwest) against a religious extremists core north vote, buhari's alleged victory in 2015 came after a massive rebranding of his image by the lagos-ibadan media about how he was a detribalised, irreligious patriot with stories of how his driver and cook are Igbo Christians, his first daughter is married to a Christian and courtesy of Obama's help propaganda was employed on a massive scale hitherto unheard of in nigerias electioneering, white was black, up was down, east was west and hitherto enlightened people started exhibiting stupidity of the highest order while the voices of reason were drowned in all the noise, fast forward 7yrs from then and we are all crying like some of us warned you all about.
And when you say a section of the country was dominant in Jonathan's government, oga step up with your full chest let's match facts with facts so I can prove to you that like the rest of tinubu's partisans you bought willy nilly into a lie and dirty propaganda without first pausing to reflect and think critically how it could be even probable talk less of possible, Jonathan had a cabinet of technocrats, ngozi okonjo iweala, Barth nnaji, the agric minister now the president of the Africa development bank, I have forgotten his name, these are guys headhunted for by mega corporations for their mouthwatering qualifications, not the nepotistic, lacklustre appointments of buhari like ngige, fashola, aregbesola and co
You bought into lies like $20billion is missing from the treasury, gen ihejirika is committing genocide against northerners, Jonathan is using bokoharam to decimate the population of the north and of recent diezani has a diamond bra worth millions of dollars, there is nothing Nigerian newspapers can not print and Nigerians like you believe making me doubt your claims to intelligence

I never bought into any of such ,i know propaganda when i see one ,ibori wont have staged a coup ,but the hausa fulani military,who think they should always hold onto power.I believe GEJ followed instructions of advisers and could have done better than he did ,he would have united and reach deals with all the people that matter ,in the whole of the south.if things were right,you would not have add a Buhari.
Selfish advisers misled him,you cant keep some politicans out and try to ruin there career while empowering others in the same domain.if he had done the right things by now ,we will have a weak and unattrative center,with more powers in the states or regions.He refused to implement the recommendation of the confab .

GalaticHorde:
gej's presidency has nothing to do with southwesterners or any other pressure group contrary to your belief, it was inevitable after yaradua's death became public and anything contrary to that would've shut down government and governance for good as no one will consent to brazen unconstituitionality unbacked by military force in which case western powers will impose sanctions, it was a lose lose scenario for would be northern power grabbers so stop patting yourselves on the back as if whatever you did was responsible for GEJ's constitutional ascension to the presidency! And what happened after he formed the government is a matter of perspective, if you are looking at it from the perspective of reward for services rendered like a typical nigerian politician, know two things, GEJ wasn't a typical Nigerian politician, he still had conscience so he ruled as his conscience demanded with comprises with many quaters, secondly, no services were rendered and your southwestern sense of entitlement was grossly misplaced as it would be again next year, what you don't understand is the deep seated hatred for tinubu and his guts in thinking that there are three regions in Nigeria that are pushovers that he could ride roughshod over to satisfy his ambitions, we go shock am, the hate for tinubu is real, living in his Lagos bubble surrounded by the ilks of mc oluomo he will fail to realise this to his detriment

You are not sincere ,he stood no chance and ibori was going to take is place ,or a coup would have taken place.if we should follow your own thoughts,they would have simply done the right thing and there wont have been any need for protest.

Secondly,Nigeria politics is ethnic based and even religion also impacts the politics.All what you have written ,was if things were normal ,only when GeJ writes his memeos,then you will know it was not easy for him.

lastly,government was monopolized ,we all complain that a section of the country are dominant in every sector of government.,then you now have the opportunity and started to repeat the same thing.It caused him the 2nd term ,because he was not dealing with the right people.

mrvitalis:
Igr is poor because we want it to be poor because it boast local economy

Thats not true ,you depend of the allocation from the federal ,but i admire soludo.and i have known him when pat utomi introduced him so i have followed and listened to him many times and watched him on patitos gang.

[quote author=mrvitalis post=111242589]Igbos ,like iseral , Japanese and Germans don't need investors we are investing by ourselves thank

The IGR is poor ,i hope you know ,he wants to grow the internally generated revenue of the state .That is wgy they have a digital expert to capture leakages.

mrvitalis:
Can you afford it ?

Which kind of question is that ?Anambra is a state in Nigeria ,people buy federal government bonds almost every month,so what will be special about Anambra?.That is the way you can attract investors ,because land is an issue ,documentation ,etc. But the real estate can make returns for investors if you have new areas like banana ,apple ,oranage islands in Lagos.

mrvitalis:
Sure after you show us yoruba investments in Anambra

If yorubas contribute 50% of what Igbos contribute to Lagos to any Igbo state we would vote them governor ...Igbos no send at all

If you sell investment bond ,people will buy it,your people are not friendly with land assets.

You are trying ,its possible she does not have full information about your finances.or she has friends who discuss tales by moonlight stories.