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proxillin:
they said they want to come and fight the israelis..without israelis pulling any trigger..boooom

2000 people are dead from a natural disaster and this is all you have to say?
Lol

SUPERPACK:
Too many brain washed people in one thread, farts on the thread and rush out.

Why do you think Buhari called Nigerian youths lazy?

nihilistjnr:
Maybe you can answer the question then if you also have a university certificate.

It's a yes or no question.

🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
The denial phase is over na twisting and turning time we dey😂😂😂

nihilistjnr:
He's not wrong.

Let me ask you this. You went to university and I'm sure you have a certificate.

If you scribbled in biro all over your certificate and drew a dïck and balls all over it, does that invalidate the information written on it?

So you can redesign your degree certificate like you want🤣🤣🤣.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Always twisting and turning like maradona😂😂

GloriousGbola:
Forgery of certificates must be big business

when you're a dumb unexposed, barely educated proudly ignorant village bum - you will remain so even when exposed to information

it is what it is

3rd party vendor printing replacement is also why there’s difference in university logo and differences in signatures.
And please where exactly in the deposition was the claim about 3rd party vendor made?
Upload the screenshot here and if you can’t do that, tell us the page in the deposition where CSU made the claim about the 3rd party vendor printing tinubu replacement.
Why is this difficult for you to do?
Oloshi oloriburuku.

[quote author=liveLongNprospa post=126213124]So wait.
So I can do what this man is saying in this video because it's a ceremonial certificate

Even the presenter shock! 😂😂😂

APC is a criminal curse!!! 🤮 pic.twitter.com/Esh7EpMQwV

— Ose Anenih, CPM (@ose_anenih) October 5, 2023

shameless people.
‘You can even design it the way you want,it’s on google,you can google it’
Saying rubbish and nonsense on air with such brazen confidence.

Amigoss:
It's actually straight forward for anybody who wants to stay on the side of truth. It simply means it's a forged certificate.

It’s incredible how much relentless these people are when it comes to twisting,turning and changing of narratives.
Dem full this thread too.
Awon oloriburuku oshi.

Amigoss:
Leave thrash for lawma,where is third paty vendor located in the deposition as claimed by CSU...

There was never anything like 3rd party vendor printing replacement diplomas in the deposition. The propaganda was started by agbado camp to control media narratives as soon as they saw they were losing in court.
CSU never made such ridiculous claim. If there is they should show us screenshot, where it is contained in the deposition or the page it is in the deposition so we can go and look for it. Even rationalizing it the claim is stupidly ridiculous.
Agbado are shameless and filthy animals and criminals.

GloriousGbola:
it is understandable - you are a backwater tout after all

you are the kind of dunce who would easily be deceived by glossy letterheaded paper and not bother to follow up

i am sure you have multiple diplomas from business centers that you carry around proudly as credentials

it is what it is

You’re a foool. Not surprising because on this sub forum you are quite notorious for your brainlessness.
Show us where in the deposition 3rd party vendor claim was made? Bring evidence or a screenshot anywhere in the deposition where such claim was made.
You fking idiott with no principle.

The 3rd party vendor claim is even ridiculous and insensible. Firstly what Tinubu has been saying since is that He applied for replacement from CSU now to twist narratives they suddenly started 3rd party vendor.
Even if 3rd party exists,the student can not reasonability deal with them on his own,it wil be through the issuing University. I doubt they will print replacement behind the back of the school.
Talk more of the forged logos,forged signatures...
Agbado people always think everyone is as stupidd as they are.

joseph1832:
how is it a lie?

It is. There no where in the deposition where CSU made such a claim about 3rd party vendors printing replacement.
The whole 3rd party vendor spin was started by the agbado camp to control media narratives.
If there is anything like 3rd party vendor in the deposition they should show us and the page it’s is contained in the deposition.
No claim like that was made by the school.

GloriousGbola:
https://www.google.com/search?q=diploma+printing

diploma printing is an industry

it is because we are in a third world country where destruction or theft of your academic credentials is still a big deal ; probably deliberately because Nigerian tertiary institutions are unable to think out of the box as far as revenue generation is concerned.

the civilized world has long moved away the use of hard copy credentials for anything other than adorning your office/study

You’re a liar. Not surprising since you be agbadorian.
There’s nothing like third party vendor in the deposition it was framed by bulanbas to twist narratives,the school never made such ridiculous claim.
If there’s anything like 3rd party vendor in the deposition please show us and the page it is.
You shameless foool. The same you want to die on top of the mesoma girl with her jamb issues but as per say you no kuku get principles you wan follow tinubu to grave.

nihilistjnr:
Like I said, goodluck making the argument that Tinubu forged his certificate, when:

1. The details listed on the certificate have been verified to be correct
2. The school itself has said it is common practice for 3rd party vendors to produce replacenent certificates on their behalf
3. The school itself doesn't even certify certificates anyway. They certify transcripts.


Your essentially arguing that if I write my name and degree in biro on a foolscap sheet, it's a forgery, because it wasn't printed by my university.

That's just silly.

Number 2 is a lie though.from the agbado camp cos the university never made such claim which frankly is a ridiculous and shameful idea.

raumdeuter:
So you think CSU is sitting down waiting for headless mob to respond to and dont have their days job? They only responded when a Judge mandated them to

CSU has said it and vindicated Tinubu, Now you can take a flight to CSU and argue with them

Tinubu is not only funding them, he actually founded the school

APC boys never think through these spins. They all just go with the same thing like zombies without giving it individual critical thinking

A clear case of perjury.
The 3rd party twist by tinubu supporters is so funny. The man said specifically he demanded replacement of his lost diploma to CSU. Suddenly there is now a third party vendor in the mix🤣.
Nothing will happen to Tinubu though which in itself is an indictment of how broken our country is.

So there was no 1997 replacement, the 1997 was a clerical error as alleged by Tinubu’s lawyer. The furore has actually been on the authenticity of the 1979 diploma.
And most importantly Tinubu did not ask the university for any replacement,infact Tinubu has never collected the originals of his diploma,the original is still with the university 😳
Wow.
Tinubu a man of many controversies.

Iamgrey5:
Where in the deposition was this stated.

The question was asked was framed to ask if the certificate was issued in 1979 and the register said no.

He was even confused by the question at a point.

You should read more and stop creating scenarios.
No certificate was issued in 1997. Tinubu lawyer said the ‘1997’ on the so called replacement was a clerical error.
I don’t even think you guys are following at all just regurgitating propaganda as you deemed fit from both sides.

seunmsg:
You are a complete olodo just like David Odesnsin. The 1979 Diploma will normally be different from the one issued as a replacement in 1997. The one submitted by Tinubu was a replacement copy issued in 1997 and not the copy issued in 1979. Stop trying to mix the issue together. David is simply playing with your infantile brain. Read the testimony of the University registrar and stop confusing yourself. He explained everything.

Except you yourself don’t know that no certificate was issued in 1997.
Read more.

seunmsg:
Atiku is a born loser. He has been losing since 1993 and he will keep losing. He’s never ever going to become the president of Nigeria. Not even for a day.

Bola Tinubu is a born winner. He won in Lagos as a governor and performed exceptionally well. He won the APC primary against the entrenched cabal of the Buhari presidency. He won the general election against opposition from IPOB, CBN, CAN, Endsars, PDP, LP, Obingoos, AriseTv and social media noisemakers led by David Odensin.

He was sworn in and became president against the wishes and desire of a gang of haters who wanted a military intervention because their candidates lost.

Now, he has snatched victory from Atiku even in far away Chicago. Whatever you do in this life, don’t be on the opposing side of a born winner like Bola Tinubu. He will keep crushing you with victories. Instead of hating on him, ask for his kind of grace.

A poor fool is calling a wealthy man ‘looser’🤣🤣

Until the transcript of the deposition is made public propagandas will keep flying from both sides.

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Now, I am confused again [/color]

That’s actually the case but you know propaganda was flying from both sides.
That Tinubu went to and finished from CSU is not what Atiku is contesting but the fact that the certificate presented to INEC by Tinubu is a forged one.
It’s why one of Atiku chief prayer to the court is a sample of a CSU diploma of that of 1979.
Tinubu said the certificate he presented to INEC was a replacement because he has lost the originals. He said the replacement was gotten in 1997.
Atiku also prayed to the court to ask CSU to present in court a sample of a 1997 replacement diploma.

Also the person alleged to have sign the replacement diploma in 1997 didn’t join the university until 1998 so therefore couldn’t have sign the replacement in 1997.

nihilistjnr:
What I read here in the bolded suggests that it is/was common practice for replacement diplomas to be handled by 3rd party vendors.


“Between 1979 and when I assumed duties, CSU must have had at least 6 Registrars. I never spoke to Ms. Davies. Some policies have changed over the years. When there is a replacement Diploma, it is done by outside vendors. I don’t know who created Exhibit # 6.
The institution decided that my name should not be typed on the ‘To whom it may concern’ letter because of the sheer volume of requests I was getting.

Third party vendors don’t issue out diplomas. How can anyone even believe that?
Even academically the term third part vendor is ‘ambiguous’
What the fck does third party vendor means? And who are they?

izzou:
[color=royalblue]I don confuse with this case.

I thought the aim was to prove Tinubu was not a student of CSU (I mean the one in Aso rock).

If the case now is that he submitted a fake, that is not CSU's business anymore. [/color]

No what Atiku has been contesting from the start is the authenticity of the diploma Tinubu submitted to INEC.

Itsrm:
They all have their political leanings.

The only one I consider to be "neutral" is daily trust.

That’s true. Daily Trust are very good but even buhari era were clearly pro north and protective of buhari as well.

Itsrm:
This was the first thing I noticed as well. The registrar was not quoted. Would have been better to hear it as he said and not PG interpretation of what he said

It’s only the punch I take serious and I will gladly wait till they report anything on this. But posting PM news known for 7th grade fake news merchants is so funny 😆

Shameless people. Dem be vidic,dem fit defend anything 🤣🤣
Laisee messi always twisting and turning like orogun🤣🤣
Unaa no dey tire nii🤣🤣

He posted pm news but avoided the Gazette 🤣🤣😂

raumdeuter:
Ask anyone to quote the specific words of the CSU rep that denied Tinubus certificate

Agbado you go explain tayaaa no evidence 🤣🤣
Apari Dey bin wan make we take PM news serious😂😂

raumdeuter:
Caleb Westberg, the registrar of Chicago State University said the school was bombarded daily with many enquiries about its former student, President Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

Giving the oral deposition ordered by Judge Maldonado to support the documents on President Bola Tinubu given to Atiku Abubakar, Westberg said the school receives between five and 30 enquiries daily about Tinubu.

However, he said at no time did the school notify Tinubu about the flood of enquiries, ostensibly from Nigeria.

“We believe Bola Tinubu who attended CSU is the same person who is the president of Nigeria today”, Westberg said during the deposition done on Tuesday in the office of Atiku’s lawyer, Angela Liu, at West Wacker Drive in Chicago.

Five other lawyers from the firm Dechert LLP joined in the deposition. President Tinubu was represented by Victor P.Henderson and Oluwole Afolabi, who joined the session by zoom from New York.

Michael Hayes appeared for Chicago State University.

Pressed further by the battery of lawyers representing Atiku on why he believes the person who is the president of Nigeria is the same person who attended CSU, Westberg said Bola Tinubu is an unusual name in the US.


He matched the Records in the file against the information provided by the student or on behalf of the student.

On the controversy over whether the student the school admitted in 1977 ffrom South West College was a man on woman, Westberg said Tinubu applied to the university as a male and a letter of admission was issued to a male.

On the certificates tendered in the documents given to Atiku, the registrar restated that the university only has Diplomas that students didn’t pick up in its possession.


“The university does not typically keep Diplomas.I have the Diploma that was made available to Mr. Enahoro-Ebah in our possession because Mr. Tinubu did not pick it up.

“I do not have the Diploma that was submitted to INEC in our possession because he had picked it up.’

“Why would Mr. Tinubu request a Diploma and not pick it up or ask that it be sent to him?”, one of Atiku’s lawyers asked.

Westberg replied: “You would have to ask him, that is Bola Tinubu”.


Here are other things Westberg deposed to: “I’m not aware of any instance where CSU had been requested to certify a document.Mr. Wole Afolabi who was acting for President Tinubu insisted that the documents must be certified. Mr. Wole Afolabi is President Tinubu’s lawyer. Mr. Afolabi and Mr. Orr communicated by email.

“I don’t recall seeing the emails. I don’t know if Jason Carter approved of the certification. Apart from Jason Carter I do not know anyone else who was involved in the process.

“I went into Mr. Tinubu’s student’s file and produced the documents to Mr. Orr. I didn’t know that the documents would be certified. I don’t get involved in legal matters.

“Mr. Tinubu requested that the documents be released to Mr. Afolabi for ‘legal proceedings’ The signature on the consent form is similar to the signature we have on record for Mr. Tinubu.

“All of the certified documents came from CSU’s files. Nothing was handed over to us by Mr. Afolabi except for the FERPA form. CSU had never certified documents for anyone before. It must have been made because there was more of a Nigerian thing.

“The documents were released in pursuance of a FERPA request. I believe Mr. Afolabi requested that the documents be certified. I’m not aware if the stamp affixed by Mr. Orr to the documents was an official document. It is not part of CSU practice.

Atiku's fishing fails as Chicago State University finds diplomas matching Tinubu's

“Mr. Orr later departed from CSU after these documents were certified.I don’t know if his departure was connected to the certification of the documents; but I don’t think it was.


“Mr. Tinubu’s counsel did not prepare any affidavit for me. He didn’t draft anything for me. My statement that Mr. Bola Tinubu graduated from CSU was based on the transcripts in our possession.

“I have never met Bola Tinubu. I have never seen him. He did not visit our campus. He does not donate money to the school.

“In the US, Diplomas are considered merely ceremonial documents. In some other countries, it may be considered more. In the US, more reliance is placed on transcripts and not on Diplomas.

“I did not rely on information from public records to come to the conclusion that President Bola Tinubu is the person who attended CSU. I am not aware that the FBI contacted CSU on whether Bola Tinubu attended CSU.

“Between 1979 and when I assumed duties, CSU must have had at least 6 Registrars. I never spoke to Ms. Davies. Some policies have changed over the years. When there is a replacement Diploma, it is done by outside vendors. I don’t know who created Exhibit # 6.
The institution decided that my name should not be typed on the ‘To whom it may concern’ letter because of the sheer volume of requests I was getting.

“Before CSU, I was at UC, Berkeley and UC, Irving. I’m sure people make mistakes in data entry from time to time. Before this lawsuit I didn’t know anyone called Bola.

“It was possible that someone assumes Bola to be a female and therefore marked the SouthWest Transcript as such.


“I am familiar with the affidavit filed by OLAJIDE Adeniji. I don’t recall his gender.I don’t know if Atiku Abubakar is male or female but I heard is a male. I can’t tell by his name.

“I checked the record and confirmed that OLAJIDE Adeniji and Bola Tinubu were at CSU at the same time. The person said he ran in a closely- contested race against Bola Tinubu for the leadership of the Accounting Student Union.

“I see that he said the same person he ran against is now the president of Nigeria. The Bola Tinubu who attended Southwest College took Accounting courses. The Bola Tinubu who attended CSU also took Accounting courses. I see the address indicated for Bola Tinubu. It’s not far from CSU. I looked at the whole record in making the determination that the Bola Tinubu who is the president of Nigeria today is the same person who attended CSU.

“The entries’1952’ and ‘1954’ could have been made in error. The person who attended Southwest College is the person who attended CSU. The courses taken by Bola Tinubu at Southwest and CSU are consistent.

“Right after the entry ‘F’, the SSN entered indicated in the Southwest transcript is the same as the one that was indicated in CSU records. That is one of the indications that we use to identify students. A Social Security is a unique identifier.

“I recognize Southwest College as a feeder school for CSU. Bola Tinubu graduated with Honours. It’s a GPA distinction. It is awarded to high performing students. Accounting is a rigorous Major. He graduated with Honours. Yes, certain students are more motivated than others.

“The students who are more motivated go on to accomplish greater things in life. I’ve seen that. As far as I know, he’s the president of Nigeria.

“There were materials in Mr. Tinubu’s records that show that he was a male. I see the application to CSU. Mr. Tinubu identified himself as a male. His letter of admission identified him as a male. It says: ‘Dear Mr. Tinubu’

“We know Mr. Tinubu’s Social Security number. It’s contained in his records.

“I see the entry on APC’s website wherein President Bola Tinubu was said to have been born in Lagos on March 29, 1952. I don’t have a copy of the Diploma that was submitted to INEC so I can’t comment on it.

“I am not aware of the fact that in the form that he submitted to INEC he claimed a different nationality or date of birth.

“Yes, our records show that he was born on March 29th. One has ‘1954’ while the other shows ‘1952’ From time to time, people do make mistakes when making such entries”.

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2023/10/03/chicago-state-university-registrar-we-get-30-enquiries-a-day-on-tinubu-confirms-graduation/

It’s now got so bad that news from pm news,reputable for being fake news merchants is now being being posted here.
Bottom barrel thing🤣🤣

adioolayi:
Nigeria's media houses have been divided... especially those online ones like People's Gazette and PM News..

For your own sanity..

Read news from Punch....they maybe slow in realising breaking news...they hardly dish out unsubstantiated news.

Very true sir.

Cruise777:



Atiku knows deep down what he is fighting for


INTELS Logistics, Mikano Energy, Power Distribution Company

🤣🤣
How can a reasonable person even believe this nonsense?🤣🤣
Atiku is rich and is already an old man. He will never be poor again in his life.
But what about you?
A senseless church rat😂😂