firstly let me first give some kudos to this Chelsea players ...especially the younger ones also to the coach cos take it or leave it...this team as tried so far....but that been said one thing is becoming clearer match by match...."Chelsea's PROBLEM IS QUALITY"....believe me playing for derby or aston villa and shinning is much diff from playing in Chelsea...."the standard is higher"....most of Chelsea's player in attack are just too average sincerely and to be frank as much as they have tried to dob their best this season most of them wont make that starting line up again from next season...... I knw its hard playing against a team that sits deep but today Newcastle pinned us down from the flanks knowing that's where our major threat is ...but the middle was free ...but no player to take risks....mount was busy doing nting all day....in a big team one thing u should avoid soon much is attackers running into ur box 18 cos if they do...u are done for ...but today mount....odoi....William...Abraham all got a pick unto there but did nting...decision making is wat separate players from PLAYERS....lastly Chelsea had better hurry back loftus cheek ..we need a tall midfielder to booster us during set piece....jorginho can't contest a set piece to save his life ...and kante is short...u won't survive some small teams with just center backs and 1 or 2 other player during set piece....and lastly Abraham should pls sit the bench on Tuesday ..I don't knw wat lampard hates so much with BAT ...give him a game in EPL and see wat he does...

Ustec:

Nice one from afenifere,
But stop believing aboki's are illiterates, those educated guys up north are so sound that you will end up doffing your cap when you gets to know them.

there best student in the northern is a mere student in the south...show get size my brother

I will give it to south america....let's be sincere....forget Ronaldo and lewa....they are great but no team in the world that wana look fearful in the last 20years will build an attack without a south american....they possess the most raw kind of forward u can imagine.....and they just have this natural talent of football playing especially destroying with skills and slicky techniques...Europeans ave them to but ave more of technical types and nt the wicked and raw candidates ...imagine a team with....messi...Suarez....ronaldinho....neymar...Douglas Costa....coutinho....Pele....di maria....maradona...delima Ronaldo...the list goes on...this pple play football like its a toy

so because simeone won barca in the super cup his out there spewing rubbish....not remembering the number of times messi has single handedly destroyed his "unsuccessful" team....a team who has stuck together for so long with Diego by now should ave LA liga cup to there credit in a decade...but they will never achieve that.... y ...cos the football Diego is saying shit about won't allow them and same with Madrid...he should focus on dropping out Liverpool cos to me he has again reached his final bus stop again in UCL....make he stay there they rant while his mates a bagging trophies.....NONSENSE AND JNGREDIENT

messi can't fucking save there sorry ass every time....the coach isn't good enough

creolehunt:


Inasmuch as virtually all the players are shìt, I still lay the blame at the feet of Ole.

Do these players play like people who are being coached?

Have you ever seen our fullbacks contribute to attack?

Have you ever seen our midfielders play a looping through ball?

Have you seen them score from direct corners or long freekicks? Heck, they've missed 5 whooping penalties this season alone.

Does the team press?

Zero movement off the ball.

They basically rely on quick counters. This explains why they can't breakdown smaller teams as tgese teams are comfortable sitting back, hence no room for counters.

If you watched the Liverpool vs Everton game, you would agree that there are levels to coaching. Liverpool played that game with Origi, Lallana and Gomez as the only senior players. Yet they were mesmerizing.

Ole is clueless.

ave always said this to man utd fan....we can agree to an extent the team us good...but sincerely dey are nt tactically sound ....ole will believe his playing to his teams strength wen boasting about beaten big teams with counter attack ....now am it will be so shocking how much dose same big teams will beat shit out of him in the return legs cos one teamnis getting more obvious bug teams ave also been catching up with there counter attack secret...I got to understand DAT wen dey played arsenal...they held on to the ball closely and anytime set loose the ball there were already 3 players behind it so playing on break was so difficult for united....city also deploying same today...Liverpool might b a massacre cos they possess a better and solid back 4 ....united is a big club but they ve been playing under dog football in the last few years wen dey meet co big teams....sometimes they win but they are nt always DAT scintillating to watch...whose fault...ofcourse its the coach...Ole isn't a modern day minded coach....u can't expect to keep instructing ur players to run into space all the time...how about if there isn't any space created made available by the opponent.... where the Bleep is ur plan B?...

Chelsea needs quality I won't stop saying it...especially in attack...we didn't create reasonable chances today en our attackers ain't top notch I always say also....I hope dey do the needful...we can't be crossing the ball every match and expect a constant victory

A well deserved victory by arsenal today...I thing Arteta is an upgrade from wat arsenal has been having in last few months....one major thing I noticed is there confidence playing out of the back....something that was hard to come by for string together months ago....that shifted the game in there favour...united of course came with there usual armory of nabbing the loose ball in the midfield or close to the box and killing on break...but arsenal rarely gave them such chance cos they gave out less possession and they hugged the ball and kept playing...."something city also does in beaten united in last two season"....and also they prevented loosing possessions in dangerous spots and covered up wen united are trying to break out....if arsenal can keep up this way they ave a chance crawling back into the top of the table

A bad result yet again for Chelsea.....the blues avent been to bad sometimes but there struggle on the ball in recent times shows one major thing "they lack enough quality in some roles".... particularly I will say in attack....Chelsea play the ball out of the middle so well but anytime they get around the box edges ..one thing that comes to mind is to whip the pass to the flanks for a cross...its good and can be productive ....but well all u look forward to in creating chances is DAT then u will run into trouble cos opponents will defend it soon well.....if u ask me y this is so. .I will say its cos Chelsea doesn't have decisive players in the attacking role...players that can take decision...and are potent with it....our attack is good but still inferior to the class we use to in Chelsea...forget the defence ...Chelsea has nice and decent players but they don't ave killers....that's one area they should quickly look at this month....a quality and dangerous player that could change the facet of the attack. ....with that this team will fly

I rarely comment on threads like this....even wen I love football with all my heart...but I ave to give my view ...particularly about pple saying guardiola can only succeed with big players....let me first start with this...EPL is more or less the toughest team in Europe and expect small teams to whoop ur ass sometimes even if u ave the best team in Europe....that been said ...let's b clear about something's.....there's always a skill requirement for every style of football u play and tactical plan u want to deploy ur team to play iconically.....let's look at our day to day life....u can't go and hire some set of bricklayers at the back of ur house to build u a 40storey sky scrapper...guardiola love his team playing shot triangular passes across the pitch... am nt a coach but with my experience in football I can tell to this young mans style of play is one of the most tedious to implement cos it requires a very high level of technicality not just from the coach but from the players too...am sorry most average day to day player can implement that style of play to the fullest....the emphasis is on midfield and u don't expect guardiola to go sign an average player for the task....to get a good result ..."YOU NEED GOOD MATERIALS"....if wat guardiola is doing is so easy then...tell me how many coach has the ball to deploy his style of ultra attacking and possession football in years....and also kindly tell mebhow many coaches succeeded exceedingly in Europe without a fat cheque book ....let's b realistic pls

Chelsea needs to come back in the second half and replicate wat they did against Tottenham in the second half....they ain't pushing the attacks enough and that's nt going to get dem a win..... en odoi should probably leave for pulisic...

OPTIMUSPRIME08:
Guardiola cant take pressures, any club he dominates and fails he looks for an exist route, he had done that from Barca losing out on Ucl mutiples times, he tried at Bayern could not succeed now at city even with his spending habits, I think rumors about his exist might actually be true, he will like to go back to Barca to see if he could win UCL with them once more.

...I tink u need to pls rephrase wat u mean by never succeed at man city ..a coach won the league back to back en u still believe he wasn't successful....

I don't knw y pple keep calling for sarri"s head....if in this modern day u can't playbin a team that displace possession and attacking football and u wait all the time for one player to give u the final pass then u are still far behind....Ronaldo is wonderful no doubt...but apart from looking for that final pass wat else are u adding to the team...are u pushing the team with ur display?....with all the bad comment about there playing style...dybala is still the best asset they ve got in the team and his flying...y?...(cos his an all round player)... and those are the kind of players that would thrive under a coach who plays possession football....u can ave a bad day in football.... but even at that we should still always see ur quality wen u ave the ball on ur feet...do we see that in Ronaldo this days?...No...

No am nt impressed ,like I am nt one bit....Chelsea is beginning to hit an iceberg with there style of football....find I understand villa played with so many players in and in front of the box ...but there are situations wen our attackers decision making was nt good enough....we created so much chances but couldn't bury most...had it been villa were lucky with the ball lobbed into our box ...they could ave left with a point Atleast....so other times our players do find themselves in a situation were dey can take peecisive low shots on goal....but dey still decide to pass to the man wide...."must every balls be crossed"....a good win ...but Chelsea needs to work ...James is good going forward but u can't just stroll forward leaving opponents attacks strolling into ur area en u trying to track back wen its almost too late...every department need to improve really ...

lampard may need to make some quick change in the chelseas attack cos as I see it ...teams are beginning to catch up with chelsea ...fast shifting of attack side to side...meanwhile a good way to win this game maib if thing doesn't change till 65mins is to pull out mount from his no10 position and put pulisic....thereby bring odoi in to stretch the defence and cause havos....Chelsea need to tear this villa team apart cos to be sincere they are really good going forward and another goal might run us into trouble....

eni4real:

If Rakitic win the "World best Playmaker", I will say Yes he deserves the Ballon d'or
Also, if Rakitic win the "World cup golden ball" , I will say Yes he deserves the Ballon d'or!!!

Modric teach Ronaldo one lesson: he should go back to his Playmaking self again... "Football is not about being a mere goal scorer"..

Modric:" I dedicate this award to many great players who play away from goal who had great years in the past but could not win it, Schneider, Xavi, Iniesta etc.. This award shows that sometimes football is not all about scoring goals"

. well said bro...u can't just stay upfront en expect to get final balls and do nting in the game build up....Ronaldo focused on only one thing en the other aspect his just so average if nt below average....if he had benn great in other aspects maib he won't be sitting the bench in juve by now cos he will still have a weapon in which few can better him in...but ones baba is nt scoring then he vanishes from the game and doesn't ave much impact...even his dribbling skills ain't there anymore...his shooting precision has been poor...wat does that tel us....in tells us one thing " CR7 is nt really has talented naturally has most of us thinks "...all wat he achieved was as a result of spending hours practicing and working hard on his scoring ability...other aspect of the game he never looked into....the training paid OFF for years and that's y he will always be since as a legend too...but the fact is sometimes u won't score and its ur input in games that will bring the goal for ur team...does he have such input... I bet its a NO!!!

chiellini should just shut the hell up and face his juve Carrier...I don't ave any problem with people saying VVD should ave won....fine he was good last season and even if he had won he deserved it. en same is messi...messi was head and shoulder ahead of every attacker in Europe last season....either of the two is qualified for the award ...but messi won cos one of them must win and not the two and it was obvious the voters preferred messi with votes...but someone coming here to say Ronaldo deserves the award just sounds annoying even sadio mane was far better than CR7 last....will we pls just leave sentiment and accept Ronaldo doesn't deserve to b in the film this season....either VVD and Messi deserves it en messi happened to win ...his stats are there for all to see....an outstanding one!!

LesbianBoy:
Nice one that CR7 didn't come for the award to witness this show of shame.

So Messi wins it even with what van dijk did yet CR7 was defeated by an average Modric last year


Scammmmmmmmmmmmmm

wat did VVD do cos the team he plays in is one of the most compact team in the world even now....dey ave the set of most hardworking midfielders and right/left back....

cRobo:
All votes based on sentiment in favour for Messi

Ronaldo still remain the best

Messi is a one team man can't excel beyond Barcelona

Also good for VVD for talking trash of Rinaldo that he wasn't a rival to him, stardom gotten to his head, unimaginable disrespect for Ronaldo

can u pls give another excuse...I don tire for this one

if VVD wins I won't be surprised...he was phenomenal for Liverpool last season ...and was a rock at the defence.... also if messi wins then it's also well deserved and one of the things I don't wana hear pls tonight if Leo wins is for some pple to come around and start saying he doesn't deserve it....if an attacker should be leading in
Goals
Chances created
Assist
Dribbles
all over Europe in a season with the numerous talent we ave plying there trade all over the continent and presently his even among the top in most of the stat sen u come here to tell me such person doesnt deserve balloon d" or ..then am sorry I can't help u.....messi keeps making even doubter see how much his way ahead every other football...would ave mentioned CR7 but am sorry his nt qualified for this..am sure he won't attend the event as usual...

can't really say much on Chelsea loss today....dey really look like dey hit a block with there play and need to only go back and get it right ....also fatigue was also a factor...like I said earlier....odoi should ave started that match ...Pedro only started the match to make the numbers complete... very awful attacker en Giroud really failed to make any point....Chelsea switched off but will be fine...

Chelsea doesnt play really well at home...the reason for this am still yet to figure out....if we will be rotating squared dem we have to be doing so with common sense....Pedro shouldn't be anyway be starting games over odoi...No...dats ridiculous...en will bro Giroud pls make use of his head in the second half......that James boy keep wipping in good crosses with no reasonable header for it..we ave placed ourselves in a tight corner cos now we ave to score nting less than two goals in the second half cos of westham keep knocking which I knw dey will den dey will get a goal for ...

this young lad has played virtually every Chelsea game....and he has really proved himself atleast...I don't buy the idea of lampard playing him in virtually all games ...he will get knocks and might affect is consistency and progress...all the same batsuayi will stand him for him...bat is a little diff and more combatic....he will play the game of his life tomorrow and I see him getting nting less than a goal if nt two

I must say tonight is one of Chelsea most disappointing performances this season so far....there are so few things I learnt from this game
1)....Chelsea still lacks quality....take it or leave it...Chelsea doesn't really have a game changer and a top quality that can purnish a team on the slightest opportunity
2) Chelsea's creates chance wen playing a 4-3-2-2 and looks blunt upfont in a 4-3-3..." dey need mount upfront to create a link" no orther player fits in naturally in that role at the moment...Chelsea in a 4-3-3...just passes the ball around and looks blunt En lacks creativity....meanwhile 4-3-3 is the best bet against a rubost midfield team...a serious training session should be done to improve the level of creativity in the formation
3).....Jorginho doesn't influence the midfield ahainst opponents .....and his lack of ability to run and dribble or play out of tight spaces in the midfield is one of the reason y he will end up sitting the bench next season wen Chelsea going into market...u can just pass the ball sideways and backward every time with passes or noting in ur bag to break down opponent... that's nt good enough to play in a big team
4) Kepa is nt improving in Chelsea....the first go was a shame and to think he made so many dangerous errors passing out shows how much he hasn't improved even wen the team is...I hope Chelsea signs a keeper to compete with him

A good news for Juve....Ronaldo sure is a big positive coming back...but there was something u guyz are leaving out here...I watched juves last match en dey exude this strange fluency and attractive play in Ronaldo"s abscence ..they look so free flowing.... by the way I must say "dybala" is the best player that team has and probably the best player in serie A at the moment....the guy is sooo good....

In as much as i hate saying this but I still ave to say it..."CHELSEA TRIED" this two words are words we probably won't b saying about them in games like this from next season...cos by dem dey will have no excuse cos transfer ban will b off en they will buy higher quality player to mix up with this lads...the major diff DAT showed today BTW city and Chelsea is "QUALITY" city has the best quality in EPL en they paraded them even wen dey ave injury crisis......Chelsea should b lucky they weren't turn apart tonight... this Chelsea team has much prospect en if beaten small teams is all they can achieve this season...there top4 will b secured...a nice game ones again tonight

am a Chelsea fan and sincerely I tink city will be on the riot tonight...they loose today they kiss EPL goodbye....they ave a far better quality to cause Chelsea problems and I tink deg will...a draw will really be a good result for Chelsea

Arsenal were really poor today...to think emery played Ozil...aub... lacazet....pepe all in one team at a point and dey still couldn't do much shows how much inept there creativity has gone ....unai isn't really the man I must say...if nt for Southamptons ball wastage ...arsenal would ave lost by like 4 or 5 goals. ..pepe is a good player who can take pple on so well...but wats the point of ur skills wen its nt productive...his nt a good ball passée and lack good goal scoring ability...such won't make u last long in a top team....he has to grow up..dribbles alone doesn't do it

I won't come here and start judging the young lady and the guy ....most pple will come here and say derogatory stuffs about them ...but the truth is most of us do worse with our partners in our private corners....en engage in much nasty act than this two ...the only fault is this ones were foolish enough to record themselves... wat they stand to gain from is personally known to dem....there foolishness ruined there carrier...and YES!!...of course they should be expelled from the school...this isn't about hypocracy or whatever...schools are meant yo shapen students to be a better person an u falling short to the standard should go with a stern purnishment....moreso the school is owned by a popular Christian body en form of stain should be eradicated...

You am nt really a sentimental fan of any of the players but I trg to be plain about wats on ground ...this controversies will keep going on en can continue for hours but let me tell u this everyone.....this argument will nt b this intense again in the next 2 to 3 years....ask me why.... cos one of the two would ave won more trophies and must ave outshined the other totally and there won't be need for any debate....Ronaldo got it wrong going to Juve....he won't compete with messi am sorry over there....he will keep doing well only in Portugal even when I don't see Portugal winning euro or world cup ....the messi am seeing on the other hand still has 2 to 3 active years to play a devastating football and score goals considering his height stature and versatility in play.....Ronaldo had issues and left Madrid...en if care isnt taking his "all eyes must be on me" attitude would make that re occur in Juv....finally do I see any other player challenging messi"s prowess as we keep seeing ...no I don't...nt even mbappe...so time will tell guyz...they won't be in the same level like they are as we speak in 3 years...maib den who is better will be too obvious for some pple to disbelieve ...may God spare our lives till then

Someone with a standard knowledge of how football works will knw that Ronaldo on the norms should score more than messi....considering the kind of football both plays....Ronaldo is goal obsessed en u won't find him in some spots on the pitch...he doesn't press the ball even wen his team is out of possession...he stays upfront to do the judgement and that's it....the second useful thing is that he ones in a while drops into his teams box to head out freekicks...messi on the other hand is far different... u will even rarely see him in the box "no"... his the only player ave seen in my humble years of watching football that can pick the ball anywhere on the pitch and destroy...no one is close ...presently I don't see any better ball passer than him in Europe....no better dribble ...no better precisive shooter and free kick taker..." nt even Ronaldo am sorry " the comparison of both is a waste of time cos 70% of us knws this fact...but we just wanna b defensive cos probably of Ronaldo's social style en personal interest "I love this about him too mind u" but I say the truth in soccer...wen hazard was in england...Kane was a better goal scorers than him but even a mad man knows hazard is a killer all round than Kane ...that's another logic example...en to think even considering this factor messi still gets close to Ronaldo that much in number of goals...then I must say Messi is just an extra ordinary talent....I don't see us seeing such crazily gifted being in years....