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Billyonaire: May be you did NOT read me clearly, I wrote INTRA-PARTY issue and that is what it is. Please stay within the topical thread and NOT jump into other issues with INTENT of derailing this thread which you have lost totally in your arguments. Please!

Whether intra-party or not, does it not bother you that a progressively minded governor is being witch hunted simply because He refused to sing the songs of the god of the creek? Really does it not bother you? Like I have always mentioned on here, many of you who see evil and decided to turn your face always end up being the first victim.

Tell me one good reason other than Amaechi's refusal to tow GEJ's incompetence stance on governance that would warrant His being witch hunted?

Dedetwo: Your ever ramblings indicated you are a person who is afflicted with intellectual deficiency. I do not have to wait for somebody to inform me quit arguing with you until you can post the pronouncement of the so-called learned judge on the “state of federation of Nigeria”.

I can not respond to the greeting of good morning from you without a quick glance over my watch.

As every you are intellectually inept, lacking the mental capacity to engage in a research and academic adventure find things out for yourself. Always waiting to be spoon fed.

Billyonaire: Omo_Tier1, Please always try NOT to curse out when an issue is being discussed and discuss within the confine of the thread. You know clearly that this is an INTRA-PARTY issue and PDP has set rules and mode of conduct within the Party. Allow the PDP to carry out its internal democratic exercise as enshrined in the Constitution. Amaechi's allegations are real facts and undisputable, so there is no provision for common-sense discourse here.

This is the problem with you lots! You think this is an inter-party issue therefore, Nigerians who deserve better leadership should suffer perpetually because some greedy slowpoke have sworn to make the good ones amongst the people to abandon governance for them.

Need I remind you that you are dealing with a learned lawyer and if anything, EFCC would have gone after Amaechi long ago if these frivolous allegations were true.

I would excuse your ignorance on how Aircraft are purchased and How it is innately stupid for anyone to think an Aircraft can be registered in an individual's name. It tells you of the 'thick' of the clowns who think they can destabilize rivers state because they must become governor by death or by life even when as a minister, under His watch, millions of Nigerians have continued to fail woefully in every major secondary school SAT.

And you do not consider this an act of stupidity that can only be exhibited by a man who lacks the tenacity and sagacity to truly provide the people with vibrant and astute leadership

texaco1: dont mind that guy ,he is talking on issues he knows nothing about ,maybe he thinks this is cameron and labout party matter

Need I send you links to educate you about Nigeria's recent history? With certificate illitrates like you that dot the landscape, why won't a drunkard rule over the people

taharqa: Hey, hey: just keep ding your 'amalysis' on politics (if that's what whatever you are doing is called); STEER CLEAR of matters that you know nothing about. QUIT toying with FACTS and spurning bare-faced LIES. Abeg

Genetically modified ewe, clearly spell out what GEJ achieved with the SWF? Which rainy has He saved for that He is still hell bent on borrowing $9bn

If you have nothing to say, just keep quiet and do not attempt to show the world the social slack you are..

[quote author=Frank-C]not disputing any of Amaechi's achievements, how do you know these things? I thought you are in the UK? How do you know that the schools are being studied as models and please, tell us who is studying them.
Please, help me understand your interest in a PDP governor that takes a position against a PDP president and is about to get disciplined. You have been all over this thread typing epistles, please, bebold an declare what your interests are. You guys want to 'outsource' opposition to a PDP governor too?[/quote]I visit Nigeria as often and I do my best to see things for myself. When international groups begin to reference schools in Rivers of what they think Nigeria schools will have been like if the oil wealth were used to develop the country, then that should tell you alot about the standard of schools. I saw them myself and some of them are comparable and better than some state' polytechnics.

That is point you lots are missing, party affiliations means nothing when you have an achiever who a non-achiever has sworn to destroy for exposing His incompetence in governance. Amaechi's has demonstrated that focused leadership, yes He has His pitfalls, but individuals like Him deserved to be encouraged so that other with similarly good intentions can put themselves forward to lead the people.

Dedetwo: You are surely ill-educated and it shows. Because a certain judge allegedly made a pronouncement and a dingbat such as you believed such pronouncement is a constitutional amendment. If you believe this crap then you are a bigger fool than I thought.
I am not surprise that fellows such Fashola and many governors alike are addressed as lawyers talk less SAN.

Again, 1999 Nigerian Constitution via First Schedule Part I defined the “State of the Federation of Nigeria”. It went further on Part II via Concurrent Legislative List to talk about division of public revenue.

You are the worse of all to be most pitied! If you do not know, when a judge of a court of competent jurisdiction makes a point of law on a constitutional matter, in so far that point of law is not challenged at a higher and competent court of Appeal of Appellate jurisdiction, that point of law sets precedence and becomes the law guiding the interpretation of the constitution until such a time the National Assembly amends the constitution forthwith.

I repeat, your nosensical reasoning has be divulged by a competent court of jurisdiction, so I conclude, so I submit that you no wiser than the learned judges who not once but twice clearly made pronouncement affirming the rightness of what was carried out in Lagos State.

Billyonaire: The next time you visit Nigeria, you will be able to see those changes, right now, you are chatting from a remote country and there is no way I can go out there and do the job of video recording for you to see. You need to do that for yourself. That is outside the discourse of this thread so lets focus on the thread.

FYI, and you must have noticed from my comments on several threads, I am not stranger to Nigeria and I tour the country at will. I do not need a propagandist like yourself to show me doctored videos. We know and do visit to see those places that are witnessing good governance with hope of positive impact of democracy.

Billyonaire: I will chose to ignore the issue of Amaechi's popularity in Rivers State because his offenses are not related to the good people of Rivers State. Let's work with facts as pertains Amaechi's anti-party activities. His offenses are clear and visible and none is framed.

Governors Forum was, and should be Peer Review Mechanism until Amaechi turned it into Presidency Review Mechanism, so instead of Governors meeting to brainstorm on how to improve their respected states, Amaechi focussed on sharing of Oil Wealth to States and undermine the powers of the Presidency at every given occasion. Its like he wanted to take over the job of the Legislature and also act as opposition party when indeed he is a member of PDP. I do not think there is need to wait for 48hrs to suspend Amaechi. The PDP Chairman under the PDP Constitution is legally empowered to suspend ANY member. We need Amaechi to go join APC so we know he is an opposition, no one needs him in the PDP, he can equally go with his 'mammoth' supporters.

How do you improve your respective states when clearly you see what is due to you and another continues to steal from it and uses it to enrich His croonies? Amaechi is too wise to leave PDP. He will remain so and if this crisis continue, He will keep His calm and decimate the party's fortune from within. That is how smart people play politics and that was the grave mistake Atiku made.

As for suspension, there is no where in the constitution of the PDP the party chairman can suspend any individual nay an elected governor without a committee of the whole establishing gross anti-party activities against Him. Even those in the Presidency will be bewildered by the clannish and immature political posturing of the phantom PDP chairman.

[quote author=Frank-C]Can anyone just notice how 'Gov Amaechi of the killer party and useless PDP' has been credited of building the 'best primary, post primary and medical institutions in Nigeria through his focused and visionary leadership'. Can anyone also notice @Rhino and Omo_Tier just become Rivers indigenes and how Amaechi of PDP just become the best thing since sliced bread? I think i also noticed a tone that suggest that known ACN e-warriors wants GEJ to leave Amaechi alone so that he can continue his good works in Rivers State. These clowns really care soooo much about PDP that they want Amaechi to succeed, Amaechi of 'the killer party'. And anyone notice a similar tone as when Sylva story was developing? Anyway, Henry Orkar also became a hero when he stood against GEJ. Abati, NOI and Ribadu became demons when they took up appointment to serve under GEJ and Ribadu became a hero again when he disagreed with GEJ. I can assure you, Buhari can also become a devil if he dare support any of GEJ's policies...
These are the clowns presenting themselves as opposition. Henry Orkar and Sylva were hailed by these same clowns and today, they are caged and the cheering has moved on to Amaechi. When the cloud clears, they will still give him the Sylva treatment.

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it is only a foool that picks a fight with a sitting President. I thought Amaechi knew better. If 5% of federal might is deployed by Gulak against Amaechi, he is gone. Watch this space, if he continues his stuuupidity, he will be sacked from the PDP and run a lone cat in the jungles of SS surrounded by red eyed wolves both in the creeks and the plains who will want him totally finished for some of their own personal interest. You don't challenge a strong man to a fight in his backyard. Amaechi is challenging the President and he is not even pretending about it. How on earth is he regarded as a politician?[/quote]FYI, as someone who hails from an opposition controlled state, Amaechi's school models have always been used as a reference to our governor and no doubt, what Amaechi has put on ground in terms of school is a model every state should emulate IF THEY HAVE THE MONEY. Health wise, it is a fact that He has built some of the hospitals so many states wish they have.

Amaechi's strides in leadership despite His party affiliation has always endeared Him to many who have been opportuned to under study Him for some time. Yes, liek every politicians He has His short comings, but He has put on ground what will continue to sustain rivers state for some years to come. Just like the architect of modern cross river state did in His time.

Billyonaire: Yes oh my brother. Have you not read in that Holy Book that Satan took instruction from God to torture Job ? It is what it is oh. We will be here and we are watching how a State Governor ignores his duty to keep wrestling the Presidency on Sovereign Wealth Funds and Foreign Reserve. He wanted the SWF shared amongst state governors so they can buy more jets with State funds and register in private names. Amaechi also refused to update the planes records. None of these accusations are framed. These are facts!

Tell me, what has GEJ achieved with the so called SWF? Is GEJ not planning of borrowing $9bn.. I mean $9bn allegedly to fund the budget? If by the constitution the States are not servant the federal government, should they not be allowed to decide how they spend their money and save it likewise? Why should the Federal government be deducting at source what is meant for the states and at the end the whole money varnishes like a nail varnishing polish

EKONGKING: my relatives in cross river receive 28 hrs of free power. i dont know what u r talking about

hehe, thats another way of saying, the MOON is the LIGHT SOURCE

Billyonaire: The problem you have is using emotions on issues. What PDP Chairman does is inline with PDP Constitution. We are waiting for Amaechi and his House of Assembly members to form a new faction of PDP and go to court, and the court will rule against them, making them political persona non grata. Before then he will lose in Governors Forum. The handwriting is on the wall. Right now, the best for him to do, is kneel down and beg for forgiveness, and I mean it when I say, Kneel Down and beg PDP.

Need I remind you of the Igbinedion, Anenih and Ogemudia factions of PDP in Edo State? Who had the last laugh? What is not Igbinedion whose son broaden the base of the opposition, created the divide in PDP and made them never to know peace. Today PDP is History as far as Edo State is concerned.

Only a political neophyte will under estimate the power of a grass root governor who is very popular amongst the ordinary man on the street. Clearly, feelers from every corner of Rivers state since GEJ's began His childish pursuit of Amaechi's shadows clearly shows you how strong Amaechi's base is in Rivers.

Ask yourself, whose will be the ultimate looser? GEJ who History will remember they way many remember Obasanjo and His madness during the third term imbroglio or Amaechi with His evident infrstructural development towering every part of Rivers State?

texaco1: then he should have contested under another party and if he thinks he is popular let him decamp to another party and let the people of rivers state go and stop proceedings when he is about to be impeached

Contest under another party for which elections? As for the Presidency, all Presidential aspirant to date apart from GEJ have left their options wild open. Any party that offers a very good chance of muscling out GEJ from Aso rock will be their haven.

Amaechi's popularity in Rivers to any grass root person can only be under estimated by a political neophyte.

eGuerrilla: To be honest @Omo_Tier1, harbouring such expectations is akin to squeezing blood from a stone.
In spite of what some would have us believe on these boards, I am afraid Mr President's antecedents provide no indication he is capable of good governance or determined leadership.

MY brother that is what pains me the most! Nigerians are wallowing in abject poverty, hoping that for once, a man who claimed to be learned, told them HE was one of them would truly live up that their expectation. That all seems to be a dream never to come true. It is painful indeed.

I visited Nigeria during the elections, and I remember when I queued up to vote, the lady behind me gladly asked, who are you voting for? I hope say na the man whey no get shoes you go vote for? The police officer also tried to intimidate me by asking who I was voting for? If only I could see the faces of those two individuals today!

texaco1: my guy this is nigeria , no gov and i repeat no gov will support ameachi against the president , he will avoided like a leper believe me , he will be left all alone . who tells u the northern heirachy is against gej ?my brother just wait and see , havent u noticed that obj is no longer talking |?

Honesty better to wallow in ignorant and realize so than live in fool's paradise and claim to be wise. There is no doubt that the epic battle that awaits GEJ come 2014 will be from the north! Any close watcher or active participant in Nigeria political landscape knows clearly that it is only the rallying cries of Nigerians that will save GEJ from the onslaught, low and behold, He has turned Himself against the masses with His anti-people policies.

Common sense should dictate to GEJ that Amaechi has absolutely nothing loose in the childish game and GEJ's image is being tarnish and ridiculed locally and majorly internationally day after day!

texaco1: make ur points and dont think u are the smartest here , tinubu belongs to a different party that was the only reason he could escape obj whip , all his assembly men were members of his party , and despite all that obj refused to released 17 billion to him even after the supreme court said he should do do , ibori never crossed obj path when obj was the president pls get ur facts right
once he loses his party support and structure that is the end of him that is why every gov tries to control his state party structure ,daniel had to push obj men out of the party structure to get his way in the party ,the party is the base support of any gov, ask ladoja they will tell you

Looses which party support? THE PEOPLE OF RIVERS STATE is the base support of Amaechi not any useless party. Same goes with Oshiomhole. The day Amaechi decides to use state machineries to weaken PDP in Rivers State and strengthen the opposition, that day you would realize that the governor of a state that delivers to His people what they desire cannot be intimidated by whittled 'gods' of the creek.

texaco1: make ur points and dont think u are the smartest here , tinubu belongs to a different party that was the only reason he could escape obj whip , all his assembly men were members of his party , and despite all that obj refused to released 17 billion to him even after the supreme court said he should do do , ibori never crossed obj path when obj was the president pls get ur facts right

Please go back and study your country's recent history. You know little about the country you call your own. No wonder a Lebanese man can come into the country and make you lots slave in your own land.

Ask any body from Delta, S/He will educate you rightly Ibori's proxy war with Obasanjo during the resource control saga. Your reasoning on tinubu's epic struggle against Obasanjo shows you are ignorant of history.

eGuerrilla: He is involved alright.

There are objectives to be attained, and Amaechi's expected demise already has an in-tray called "collateral damages".

Okupe's interview...


As you rightly pointed out though, this latest battle-front may ultimately prove to be one too many for his beleaguered Presidency.

My brother, I am sure GEJ has forgotten the spirit of vengence Nigeria showed Obasanjo during His aborted attempt to force Himself on Nigerians for a third time.

If He is any wise, He would be focused at ensuring Nigerians witness good governance, determined leadership that seeks to bring simles and succor to their faces, no, instead He is chasing shadows.

Billyonaire: Governor Amaechi will cease to be a member of the PDP within 48hrs because of anti-party activities. And he has explaining to do as to why a State Government Plane is registered under private name. This is an attempted Fraud as he intends to change name from "Bank of Utah" to his name in future. The PDP constitution empowers the State Chairman to suspend any member of the Party and the suspension will take immediate effect. As soon as Amaechi is suspended, he will automatically cease to function as Governor Forum Chairman as he will by law not be a member of PDP and without a party.

When a handshake crosses the elbow, no be joke again. Amaechi chose the wrong fight and needs to be taught lessons, that without the Gods and Government, a man is nothing. Let him go and ask Chimaroke Nnamani, about the aftermath of abuse of power, let him ask Ibori how he is fairing in prison, let him ask Alams and even Dimipreye. Has he forgotten Henry Okah ? He can equally ask Tunde Bakare why he ended the sermon on the mounts. Hhhahahahaha I love PDP. Amaechi is too small. GEJ does not even need to give instruction, people who wanna impress GEJ will mess Amaechi up. He who kneels before the MOG and humbles himself, are defended by even the angels and daemons.

Tunde Bakare end which sermon? Whom the demons wants to kill, they say will first make insane. I have said it, and I will repeat it, GEJ will be the first President of this democratic dispensation to be jailed. Mark these words.

Thank God I do not live in a country where 16hrs of electricity daily is celebrated. Such a being will be referred to the Ward K of the nearest NHS general hospital.

Dedetwo: If I may follow your skewed stream of thought that State Governments are by extant of the constitution the creation of the nation and by virtue of the national house assembly resolution, any state governor can be removed.

I do not know which Nigerian constitution you seemed to read. However, the 1999 Nigerian constitution informed that Nigeria has three tier of governments that is the national, state and local government.

It is unfortunate Nigeria still remains a jungle where idiotic state governors such as Oshiomhole of Edo State have the effrontery to usurper powers not arrogated to them by the constitution.

The federal government must try to make budgets of the Local Governments independent of State Government so these moronic governors should stop behaving as if Local Government is under them.

Stop displaying your stupidity in a public forum. During the creation of LCDA in Lagos, your nonsensical reasoning was tested in the courts of law all the way to appeal courts and the learned judges categorically denounced it and made it so clear that Nigeria does not have three federating units as your shallow mind incorrectly phantomed. Please kindly go educate yourself on Nigeria's recent History and stop displaying your ignorance on here.

Ngwakwe: Why are you boiling and so disturbed. Your insult and that of your ilk on Mr President hold no water.

You perceived his humility for weakness and speak evil of him continually as if he caused all the backwardness in Nigeria.

You praise war criminal Obasanjo irrespective of his failures and speak ill of GEJ who is besieged by corrupt cabals made up of past military officers and their front men who are invariably destabilising his regime through covert operations.

Show me where I praised Obasanjo, other than the fact that I have repeatedly said that despite of His several short comings, His Presidency was the best Nigeria ever witness to date due to the massive restructuring and repositioning and economic reforms He initiated for which several of you are still beneficiaries till date.

It is foolhardy to claim GEJ is besieged by corrupt cabals. Fashola, Oshiomhole operate under the same forces of retrogression but they are smart enoguh to standard their ground and deliver to the people what truly belongs to them. What is stopping the drunkard from doing the same? Is any individual now bigger than the state?

Why won't you blame military men and phantom covert operations. A lazy man they say always complain the cutlass is too big for His hands

texaco1: so u believe that ameachi can take on the president and commander in chief of the federal armed forces of Nigeria abi ?
no be ur fault , i blame gej he has been too soft in dealing with gov and in using the powers at his disposal maybe he needs to use ameachi as an example

You must be a kid when Tinubu dealth with Obasanjo. Need I remind you that during the days of Ibori, as much as He was loathed for His massive looting of Delta state resources, when He raised up the issue of resource control, Obasanjo tried to shut Him in by making it difficult for Him to access the state allocation and History will tell you who had the last laugh.

texaco1: my guy forget NO GOVERNOR CAN WITHSTAND THE PRESIDENCY

Again, I say ask Obasanjo. The presidency is only as power as those behind it. Those who have their weight behind Amaechi far out weigh those that have their weight behind GEJ.

FYI, Amaechi is a learned and intelligent man who would have done His home work and rightly so, He would have expected this irrational response from the drunkard with a misplace priority.

Tell me, Has Nigeria not got more trouble at every corner you turn to that GEJ will be looking to create one in Rivers? Do you know the fireworks, when it begins to flare in Rivers State will decimate Nigeria's purse? Need I point out the effort of Amaechi in bringing peace to the once restive River's state when He became the governor in His first term?

gramci: Its not your fault, its normal for frustrated folks

For all I care, I said stay clear, I do not have time for social slacks.

gramci: Calling your president a drunkard won't help your cause, a foool can easily resort to gutter language

FYI, the column in the UK Guardian newspaper couple of weeks ago did not fall short of questioning the mental balance of GEJ. So I did not set the president. When a sheep begin to romance a goat, the sheep should not wonder why she's being call a goat. Get some snese up stairs.

Dedetwo: You should have posited this poser when it was alleged that governor of Rivers State sacked certain elected Local Government Chairmen in Rivers State. It is very silly most Nigerians tend to show irrelevant smart azz when the political pendulum swung against their political interest.

Party state chairperson can suspended any member of the party from the state in question regardless of the elective position.

If you have not been told, Local Government are by extant of the constitution the creation of the state and by virtue of the state house assembly resolution, any council chairman can be removed. Oshiomhole did this in Edo State and it was tried and tested in the court of law and the affect corrupt local government chairman was sent home to kiss the dust of poverty.

It is pertinent to say that the House of Assembly passed a resolution to that effect. If aggrieved, the affected individual can take their case to court.

It does not take much to reduce PDP in Rivers to a pack of miscreant, and rightly so, like it happened in Edo State, Amaechi can choose to create a parallel faction of PDP in Rivers State and when the time is right, deliver the state to an opposition with an Astute candidate who can continue to take the state forward from where He leaves it. At least today, River state can boast of one of the best primary and secondary schools in Nigeria as well as medical institutions courtesy of Amaechi's visionary leadership

solopumpy227: President Jonathan harrasment of Amaechi will continue, all Amaechi needs to do is to remain steadfast and hold his guards firmer.

The President plays politics like a childish coward and seems not to have any value or virtue to excell in healthy competions.

From all permuations President Jonathan is, inevitably, going down and the likes of Amaechi may emerge as later heroes in the unfolding epic battle for the soul of Nigeria.

My brother, it is a no brainer that the hand writing is all over the wall with the voices that is emanating from several quarters in the last few weeks. Rather than the President and His advisers to read the writing on the wall, like Nebuchadnezzar, He has decided to dance to the tune of death. Time never fails to disappoint and when the night cries shes pregnant, the morning dawn remain patient to wait for what she will deliver.

When you allow a man who's allege thesis cannot be verified and vouched for by any astute professor to become the President of a country, the office of the president become worthless.Nigeria is too big and precious a nation to be left in the hands of a drunkard.

What have Amaechi have done in Rivers State in terms of investment, if reincarnation was possible, it will take GEJ 7 times of reincarnation to achieve half of it. Rather than focus His energies at improving the worsening living standard in the country, He is busy chasing shadows.

I repeat, when the real fire works start come 2014, even MOSSAD will not save His head. He is beating the drum of war when the town crier is calling peace. Nigerians are watching..