KanwuliaExtra:


Amen!!!😃

Am glad you understood the message perfectly......😉

Funkyswagzz:
You are so biased with your analysis and you ended up not saying anything meaningful other than to praise tinubu. The topic is catchy but boring halfway down. Everyone has something to say about obi but they seize to acknowledge the fact that he got up to 6million votes something that has never been done before with his first try. Give the man some credit and get on with your life

Abi...don't mind them, everything na obi, na obi. Atiku do press Conference, nobody react, not even the mighty Ruben Abati. But when obi holds his own conference, "Obi is insulting Tinubu to reveal Is true Identity" Ruben Abati- "Obi is chasing political & media clout". Reno & Loretta Onichece is saying their own.

They should continue, they are deceiving themselves and Agbadorians, definitely not Sane and Right-thinking Nigerians.

Emekaonline:


But you can trust the same judiciary for awarding victory to failure obi against Ngige? What a shame!

What are you saying?
How can you declare someone winner for a primaries he did not attend?
What are you saying?
Is that normal to you. Does it sound right to you. Have you heard in other countries where they declare a person winner for primaries he did not attend?

favor914:
Oblivious Mumu.

Your father

Kilometres:
What happens if Tinubu loses?


The political space in Nigeria is for the strong-hearted. Make a slip, and you are barefaced on the floor. So hard would be the fall that standing up amounts to an elephant passing through the eye of a needle. The General Elections have been won and lost, but the rhythm of its after-effects has refused to fade into thin air. Two candidates who lost are laying claim to the throne already occupied by the winner. It presents a mystic case, and how it pans out is best left imagined.

I have been a strong admirer of President Bola Tinubu for inexplicable reasons. I have insinuated that he deserves scholarly work on leadership and strategy in political participation in Nigeria. He has earned his stripes. It must be accepted, and he must be respected.

He doesn’t have a duplicate in the political history of Nigeria. His style is unique and audacious. Underestimate him at your peril. He waits for you at the destination even before you commence the journey. These features culminated when he was sworn in as President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. This is the reality.

Atiku Abubakar of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) is a front-runner and the master drummer. He stands a chance because he was the first runner-up. He polled 6,984,520 votes. No doubt, it was a brilliant outing despite the challenge of losing five governors (G5). A move that would go down in history as a horrible political calculation.


What was he thinking? What made him think one was more significant than five? That was hallucination at its peak. I still have goosebumps whenever I think about the blunder. We are products of our choices, but we often blame it on others or some supernatural forces.

Peter Obi of the Labour Party (LP) is a cool guy and a businessman whose foray into politics was more dramatic than we have now. He claims to know what politics is about. For him, it is about plus and minus. He doesn’t think times and divides are essential—his learning curve.

Peter Obi doesn’t know how to drum, but he is the one dancing more. Funny, his dance steps do not flow with the rhythm. But a section of the crowd of jesters and irredentists are cheering him on.


He polled 6,101,533 votes to emerge 2nd runner-up. 2,693,193 votes behind President Bola Tinubu. What is his case? Assumptions and illogical conclusions. He persisted in an echo chamber of his own creation – he and his followers heard the continuous feedback of the lies they told themselves in an eternal loop. It is dangerous when you mistake assumptions for reality. It could lead to depression because you end up basking in a fleeting euphoria.

Certificate and identity crisis has gained momentum. Atiku Abubakar sojourned to the United States of America to ask for an academic transcript. It generated debates, and in the eventuality, nothing substantial came out. Some say it was a wild goose chase. They may be right. I do not see the sense in the endeavour. It was more an attempt to stay relevant than to prove a point.

I wasn’t surprised that Peter Obi, who seemed uninterested, became interested. His press conference spoke volumes. The question is, what happens if Tinubu loses? Who does the throne belong to? Very intriguing. It tells the story of confusion, whims, and caprices.

Do I see President Bola Tinubu losing the throne? Not a possibility. The argument is not adding. It needs to be clarified. But the handlers of Atiku Abubakar and Peter Obi would hear none of that. I don’t know what propels them. Maybe strange forces.


President Bola Tinubu is a chief. He is the “Asiwaju” of Lagos and the “Jagaban” of Borgu Emirate in Niger State. Asiwaju is “the one who leads.”. Jagaban is ” a leader of warriors”. How odd that he bears both titles. It implies that he is not a pushover.

He has been upstanding for the past 16 years. The issues currently making the rounds have been over-flogged. Atiku Abubakar knows this. But Peter Obi doesn’t because he is not contemporaries with President Bola Tinubu and Atiku Abubakar. He is dancing more, but he is not the drummer.

That sums up the Obident ideology of hinging something on nothing. I dare not say this on any of the social media platforms. There is a web of venomous spiders that would encircle you in seconds—the mob mentality.


Atiku Abubakar is just having fun. He has exhausted his arsenal. The strategy now is to mislead as many as possible. Peter Obi leads the fray. Is Atiku Abubakar succeeding? The answer is yes. Peter Obi held a press conference that confirmed it. The question now is, what is the crux of Peter Obi? Elections were manipulated, or President Bola Tinubu forged certificates?

This is the motive of Atiku Abubakar. Maybe he is acting in a script. The man is also a veteran. He has earned his stripes. It is better to deal with him with a long spoon. I hope President Bola Tinubu knows this. This is not the time to take chances. It is a slippery floor—too many banana peels. I don’t see President Bola Tinubu losing. There is no case to answer. They are just wasting our time on sensations. The refusal to accept the reality is bland.

I hope with these few words of mine, I have been able to convince you and not confuse you.


Ocheja, a Military Historian and Doctoral Researcher, can be reached via jaocheja@gmail.com


https://www.thecable.ng/what-happens-if-tinubu-loses

We can't trust the supreme court to do the right thing irrespective of whether it favours OBIDIENTs or ATIKULATORs. A Judiciary that made somebody winner for a primaries he didn't participate in, shouldn't be trusted or expected to do the right thing.
With the Supreme Court, the wrong and only wrong things prevail.

garfield1:

Kindly leave my thread but know that atiku has lost at the apex court sir

Well.....you are 101% correct, however the damage has been done. It doesn't matter what the apex court says. They can use Technicalities to dismiss the case, but they can never dismiss the "Damage" it's as caused. They can't dismiss the opinions it has created.
The truth will always prevail, I just hope you witness it one day.

garfield1:


Oga,they said it can be done offsite and there is no record of those that make such requests so it is assumed that tinubu requested for it

Assumptions are the lowest forms of Knowledge.
Did you assume you graduated from a university?
Bros abeg.....shift, make I see road.

garfield1:


According to the us education system,off-site certs are not forgery

In Nigeria they are.

When will you answer my questions.
If you know you won't engage in intelligent conversations. Don't bother to quoting me again. And I won't bother to quoting you either.

Phantom233:
Tinubu himself pleaded that his Documents shouldn't be released because serious /irreversible harm will be done to him yet some fools Keep licking his ass just to earn a living. It's unfortunate We have alot of Intelligent fools in naija, all these damage control won't help... FBI records is loading

Don't mind them, they are very foolish. Even Tinubu is scared to come outside to talk about the matter, it's inconsequential morons where never chop 3 square-meals in 8 years are the ones now defending him. What a shame!

garfield1:


It was issued by vendors offsite

Where's written In our constitution that we accept certificates from Offsite Vendors?

You people keep implicating yourselves the more. This statement is self-Indicting. Better delete this comment immediately

garfield1:


Not true.they don't keep records of requests so they can't tell whether he requested or not

Lol.....be whining yourself. They never said that, what they said is; replacements are done by third party, provided they take permission from the school, so you are telling me that I can just go to the cafe and print a document from a 3rd party without letting the school know?. You people are creating a false narrative here. Even Harvard can never say they allow 3rd party to print their certificates without express permission from the school. Pls I asked you a question from the first comment. You haven't replied me.

garfield1:


Oga,they said replacement are done off-site not by them

That's can only be done by the express authority of the school. And they never recieved any request from Tinubu.

garfield1:
I have read the 127 page CSU deposition.the questions were asked by Atiku's lawyer Angela Liu.csu were represented by Hayes and tinubu by Vic Henderson.

On page 24,the registrar said the seals has changed severally between 1979 till date.( Therefore tinubu cert is consistent with CSU records)
He also stated that due to the xerox machine,documents can come out differently.

He also said that there is no original diploma on tinubu's file meaning tinubu picked it but there exist a re ordered,recreated copy which wasn't picked.
On page 29,he admitted that they can't completely get templates from 1979 anymore.

Liu showed him a copy of a replacement order form on page 32-34 and the registrar said those that need replacements fill it but they do not keep records of those that requested therefore cannot remember if tinubu requested or not.
On page 40,he refused to authenticate the degree copy submitted to inec because it wasn't before them but said their former counsel Jamal Orr certified it.
On page 57,he said diplomas are generally ceremonial in USA but transcripts are more relevant.

Then tinubu lawyer Henderson started questioning him.at page 77,he stated that he can only speculate about what happened before he started working at CSU and isn't sure.
At page 100,he admitted that replacements are done off-site not in the university. On page 102 he admitted that differences in dates of birth of tinubu and the F in the Daley college transcript is likely human error based on his experience esp ast at 1979,things were typed manually.
Atiku lawyer at page 122 tried to ask about inec again and the registrar said he won't comment on that.he also stated that he didn't play any role in tinubu's certification and schooling and therefore cannot comment accurately on them.
Atiku lawyer asked him if he is familiar with forged documents and if he can mention notable forgers.tinubu lawyers objected and she didn't pursue that forgery part.i think this is where atiku lost it...

In summary,no forgery was established.forgery is criminal in nature and must be proven beyond reasonable doubt and atiku lawyer failed to do so.she could have gotten the registrar to admit that tinubu cert is forged but failed.she could have gotten the registrar to find out the list of off-site vendors and which one tinubu cert could be traced to but she failed to.once there is doubt or speculations or uncertainty in criminal evidences,it will be resolved in favour of the defendants.tinubu has totally won this.



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Lol.....the Issuing Body is CSU, and they said the Document submitted by Tinubu to INEC didn't come from them. That's Forgery already, altering documents and submitting documents not issued from the Issuing body or Institutional authority is "FORGERY"

So what's else are you looking for?
What are you trying to justify?
Does Nigeria submit 3rd party documents for elected post?
Did you submit 3rd Party documents to get a job?

JagabanB:

Sitting here now I can't remember who made the post but if u did, ur post is not telling us that u bought a broom from Ajah for #500, ur post is telling us that Broom in Nigeria is #500.
That's what I am trying to counter.
Did u buy the broom #500?
I can't argue because I know it's possible and it's ur fellow Nîgeriàns ripping u not because broom is worth #500.
This evening I saw a young man making a post about how a bucket of orange in benue costs #250 and only one orange costs #100 in PH.
That's the people in PH ripping them.

In Lagos, oranges are also sold for 100 naira. I just commented on the post, I didn't make the post.
I don't know where you stay, what I know is, there are now selling brooms in Lagos for 500 naira.

JagabanB:

When I said "una no d pity unasef" I meant how can u sell a broom, a broom to ur fellow citizen for #500?
People who buy that broom will blame polîticians whereas in so many parts of the country, these brooms don't have buyers.
"Una no d pity unasef?" That's my statement, people will use it for political talk whereas the sellers are ripping the buyers and the buyers will make politics out of it.

I am not talking about politics. I am just stating what I bought a month ago. Secondly, if 100 sellers are selling the broom at 500, you don't have option than to buy it.

JagabanB:

Ajah does not represent Nigèria, there are many many places u will go in this same Nigèria and get broom for free.

Bros......I never told you I represent Nigeria. I just told you I bought something from Ajah.

JagabanB:

Another Iamentation post by Obi boys.
Broom that they sell for #100 is now #500 in the East.
Una no d pity unasef?

Bros.....it's true. I bought a Broom last month at Ajah for 500, na with beg ooo

GOTVee:
Even though I'm a born again Christian, we Christians condemn the brutality of Isreal against Gaza. We nigerian Christians stand with Palestinians.

Bros....you say wetin?

It's obvious you don't read your bible. Everything that's happening in Israel CUM Gaza has been predicted long before you were born, or Hama or whatever existed. So you just need to watch with your ears and listen with your eyes. Something small isn't happening anything soon.

plaindealer:
How do you even forge what is noma; and perfectly legal?

Even if what PBAT submitted to INEC was written on toilet paper, so be it, if the issue is if he graduated or not, then ask CSU which INEC did already so who cares.

Even the tribunal did not pay attention to the INEC certificate nonsense, they still affirm his victory and the SC will do the same thing because unless you can prove that he did not graduate, you are chasing your own shadow.

What did you just say?
Toilet paper? God why do I share the same oxygen with people like you? Why God?. Why?

muykem:
The court only needs two questions and answers.
1. Qualification
Did Tinubu attend CSU and quality to contest. YES. The school registrar confirmed it under oath.

2. Forgery
Did Tinubu forged school certificate gave to INEC. NO. the school didn't disown the certificate under the oath.

Every other things are Irrelevant to this case as far as this case is concerned. Supreme Court will not allow new evidence on the matter since there is no fresh fact.

Why are you always giving false information like this?
The school said: we didn't issue the INEC certificate to him. Even reno confirmed it. Why do you delight in giving false information.

Hyperchi:
Ayo StFU, I also watched it he was struggling to defend him oga. APC has make old men lie and it now normal thing, Nigeria tin. Simple question they Ask him, let me put it to u to answer, If the school certificate u submit for a Job is not the same As the one the school normally issue what will u call that?.
Coz I see some zombie coming here to say third party, as if they will not follow the school format and guildlines in printing. They go just go Ajegunle go print anyhow come.
And if u need the link, go to channels site and watch it.

Bros....don't mind them. Even in Nigeria, we don't do 3rd party vendor rubbish. In Harvard, do you hear they do 3rd party certificates?. It's just a poly to deceive theirselves. So they are telling me I can go to a cafe, print from a 3rd party person, and claim it's the degree from the institution?

Etiyeokwe:
Since a Third Party can issue replacement certificates, I have been trying to hear the name of the Third Party that issued President Tinubu's CSU replacement certificate.

Before a Third Party can issue an Institution's replacement certificate, it must have links with that Institution.

There's nothing like 3rd party issuing replacement certificates. Have you heard Harvard or University of Kentucky issuing 3rd party replacement certificates?. Even in Nigeria, we don't issue 3rd party certificates, it's a clear case of forgery. No need of salty-coating it.

Racoon:


https:///renoomokri/status/1710242833851170859?t=Y5q3lRV2PMSInPTOpOj1tQ&s=08

They never denied his credentials. What they said, both in their affidavit and the deposition that followed is that they could not attest to the diploma tendered by Bola Tinubu to the Independent National Electoral Commission, not because Bola Tinubu did not graduate from their university, but because a third party vendor issued it, and certificates are more of "a Nigerian thing".


We don't accept 3rd party certificates in Nigeria. Your degrees must come from the institution, anything different is called forgery. If you alter a document, it's forgery. You people keep implicating Tinubu the more.

ayokellany:
I do not understand why anyone will lie so shamelessly. Chicago State University expressly stated they have authorised vendor that issue their certificate.

You despicable soul should desist from lying shamelessly.

Go and read the testimony and stop all this nonsense.

favor914:
What is a certificate without the qualification? Did he graduate from the school, Yes or No?

Una Mumu Too much for Nigeria. Tufiakpa.

God.....why do I share oxygen with this animated animalistic criminally-minded animal?

Submitting documents that are not issued from the institution you went to is forgery. I won't reply you again.

ayokellany:
Chicago State University made it categorically clear that Tinubu indeed graduated from it institution but can not authentic the document Tinubu submitted to INEC.

It went further to state that vendors can also issue Chicago State University certificate which I believe is the only leeway away to Bola Ahmed Tinubu.

As a Tinubu supporter it should be clear that Tinubu need to state clearly the vendor he got the certificate he presented to INEC from failure to do so Atiku should press further n prove no CSU vendor issued Tinubu the certificate he submitted.

Once it is established in court that no vendor provided Bola Tinubu with the certificate he submitted to INEC he should without further delay resign to avoid further disgrace.

Well....csu has said third party vendors don't have any business with csu. Secondly, Nigeria doesn't accept 3rd party certificates for elective posts in Nigeria

GUNITGuy:

Like I said the court can't determine wether a certificate is fake or real it's the school and if they validate the Certs there's nothing you can do ...
The Nigerian Judiciary can't tell Original from fake from a US school get that and get real you are just dreaming expecting supreme court to cancel an election because of alleged fake cert from a third party not from the issuer of the certificate .....Wake up and think

I won't reply you again.
The school said the document is not from them. If I graduated from UNILAG and submitted a fake degree, does that not make me guilty of forgery?
Do you understand what's forgery?
Bros.....please don't wake up, continue sleeping.

GUNITGuy:

Inec doesn't validate wether a certificate is fake or original it is the School you came out from neither do courts determine wether it is valid ....Please use your brain

Check the constitution and stop saying rubbish. If you lie under oath, it's a crime, if you commit forgery. It's a crime.

8stargeneral:
said it was done by outside vendors...that means na road side dey arrange the certificate for am...it's for the school...that's to say it's fake

Exactly

GUNITGuy:

They've finally claim him has their student please use your thinking caps ..
He can't be charged for Forgery a School ascept has theirs stop beating a dead horse it can't run

It doesn't Matter, if you submit a falsified document to Inec, you are committing a crime. Please put on your thinking cap.

tinsel:
Op, you are mischievous. You failed to add where they said they don't have it because he had picked it up.

Why didn't he submit it to INEC.?

Why does he have to submit a document not issued from CSU?

They have said, the INEC certificate is not from them, that alone has equated to forgery, we don't allow 3rd party documents for elective posts in Nigeria.