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Negro_Ntns:
Alhj, dont mind the pygmies. . . if they want privacy they should go converge in Bashr's home. This is public domain. . . . .they have no privacy where I prowl.

Life una no get? Na wa oo!!!
Imagine any thread about yoruba wey no concern Igbo, the Igbo avoid but the Igbo thread wey no conern Yoruba, una come dey invade.
Na wa oo!!. Continue with your obsession, you'll die of high blood pressure seeing all these your hypertension over Igbo.

Everyday Soyinka increases my admiration of him

Such powerful and truthful words.

Less than 10 people replied. If you tell them the truth, they'll ignore it but if na tribal bashing this be, na 50 pages will see for NL.

The shame.

Did this even make it to the front page? Just checked, no it did not.

Any Igbo still residing up North, except those whom are stationed there by the government, whatever happens to you, na your own wahalla.
If you get injured, don't disturb ndi-Igbo. If one of your family members die due to your greed, don't disturb ndi-igbo. If you die, make sure you wrote a will telling your family members not to disturb ndi-Igbo. You are on your own.

If na true talk. No surprise there.
Nigerians chest beat over nothing, na poor nation una be.
Take am with pride.

I've spoken from an Igbo SS point of view on how things are over there but I noticed every word we, SS Igbo, says gets ignored and the word of non-Igbo from every region is heard. There will always be a point of confusion among SE and SS Igbo if one region refuses to listen to another region.  

To reference back to Odumchi story, I nod in agreement: Yes there are deniers from Ikwerre, just like there are deniers from Ika and deniers from other area of ND. It exists but not as high as the SE Igbo and non-Igbo claim it to be. Ever wonder to yourself why the few Ikwerre we know in the public eyes, have countlessly identified as Igbo.  If not for ak47mann reply, I wouldn't have known Julius Agwu was Ikwerre; for a while I thought he was a SE Igbo because of his uncontrollable pride of the Igbo identity. Even if an Ikwerre non-deniers comes on NL and speak on the behalf of his people, reference to you all how many are deniers and how many are not, I'll predict the future and say: every-word the person says would travel from one ear and leave the next.  Case in point Igboboy: Igboboy is an Ikwerre man from his maternal side and he's repeated the same thing I've said countless time based upon he’s interaction from his maternal sides family and Ikwerre he’s been around but una no hear am.

To eastofwest or whatever you call yourself
I don't like it when people spread lies about my people; neither do I appreciate it when bigots try to cause division between my people from our people.  Anyone whose been to Asaba would narrate to you the Igbo pride of Asabian is immense. Finding Igbo deniers among Asabaians is like finding a needle in a haystack; you are more likely to find an Igbo denier in SE than in Asaba. Lynxx, a musician I've met and spoken to and whom have also identified himself as Igbo repeatedly is whom you choose to make up lies about. Mscheww, tomorrow now story don change to Don jazzy denied Igbo.  

On the topic of the Edo thread
E be like say the Yoruba did not bother reading any of the replies on that thread because I'm noticing all the reference back to it by some bigots, all una saw was Igbo.  Na wa oo!!!
The OP of the Edo thread mentioned the need or the reason for the creation of that thread was the constant dragging of Edo to West by the Yoruba on NL whenever the concept of breaking up surfaces. The topic was rather and or would have been a cultural thread that should have debunked a myth and give incite to history, it did when the Benin were the replies but it turned political and tribal bashing when other groups joined. As if I was expecting a lesser outcome.  I rather say I learned a lot, historical, from the actual Edo people on NL. Too bad the monikers and fake accounts destroyed the maturity of Edo people by claiming them.
I just noticed many of una do not realize Edo is a state that composes of many ethnic groups beside Benin.  The Esan, Afemai/Emai, Ijaw, Urhobo/Isoko, etc are also part of Edo groups and the Esan, Afemai, Emai, Ijaw and to some extent Urhobo/Isoko do not feel any connection to SW but rather to SE and have voiced it thus justifiable to the creation of the thread. He unfortunately, added Benin into that group as well to debunk to Yoruba and Edo connection myth but instead of debunking a myth, all he did was create a myth to debunk a myth.
I like how the Benin's on NL denied both group without resulting into insult.
The maturity of Benin's on NL is something to awe upon.

dayokanu:
Co-signed.

Yorubas dont care if you are from ibadan and say you are not Yoruba, no one would fight youfor it.

Actually you would see many groups from Benin, Cuba, brazil, Sierra leone etc coming to say they are related to yoruba, Yorubas wont be going to claim them and actually fighting with them

But for Ibos its always like that.

Per your example. I have a friend whose whole family bear Ibo names like Chinyere, Ifeanyi, Nduka, Ugochukwu yet still tells me he is not Ibo that he is Ndokwa.

I have never heard any Ekiti, ilaje, Ijebu, Egba, Ijesha claim they are not Yoruba before

Huge difference

Actually No you do not. The Yoruba claim they claim they have connection with the Yoruba. You should reread the Benin thread, the Edo on NL identified that neither Yoruba nor Igbo have any connection with them, they share similar heritage, some similar words but the two main groups are not similar to them. Did you miss the actual Edo replies such as Physics, Gareth, etc on that thread? The only group whom kept speaking of the connection was Yoruba. Let stop lying to ourselves sometimes.
Cubans and Brazilians claim Yoruba identity because they are of Yoruba stock just like Dominican Republic, African-American, Jamaicans, and some Afro-Europeans claim Igbo heritage because they are of Igbo stock.

shymmex:
Word on the road is that Ikwerre don't want to associate themselves with Ibos because Ibos are LOSERS

You lost the war dammit

I don't blame them, I wouldn't if I was in their shoes - you lost the WAR

Stick to one account.
Shamelessly creating multiple accounts, una have time oo!!!

afam4eva:
It's funny how people who say that Edos who don't speak a drop of Yoruba are Yorubas but think that Ikwerres who speak Igbo, have Igbo names, eat Igbo food are not Igbos. Go and tell people like Julius Agwu, Tonto Dike, Duncan Mighty, Monalisa Chinda that they are not Igbo and be ready to receive an Oyedepo slap.

ROFL @ the bolded.

What he said is a repetition of what Yoruba on NL say on daily basis. 
No surprise there. I recently discovered the hate, jealousy, etc and I pray other Igbo notice the hate as well.
Shine una eyes well well, watch your back and know whom your enemies and friends are. Keep our friends close but keep your enemies, closer.
As for the apology, he should just shove it back to wherever he pulled it out from.
Your tribalism is already out and cannot be redrawn.

slam7000:
Enough of these nonsense,if they say that they aint igbos,so be it.its nobodys business,we have a lot to worry about and these shouldnt be our worries.this is becoming very embarrassing,when its not ikwerre,it,ll be [b]asaba [/b]and ogwashi uku people.then some silly story about igbos and jews.They said they are not igbos and they are not.end of story.

Slam7000
Na where you read this one oo!!
Who spoke of Asaba denying Igbo? Bring it out let me destroy that person for here.
Na wa oo!!! NL have resulted to lying about people just to bring in traffic.
May thunder and hell fire whomever is spreading lies about us.

manchy7531:
Manchy is a full blooded igboboi(FBI) from uzoagba ikeduru LGA imo state.so don't talk droppings about me being igbo or not.Will never be a wannabe.just thought that i should clarify all this ikwerre stories of them claiming not to be igbos.if it is true,to me it's a big shame denialing your identity.cos i see on the internet when people classify ikwerre as a ethnic group(like when describing the ethnic groups in rivers state,you see ijaw,calabari,ogoni,ikwerre). This keep me wondering why these set of people will chose to live in identity denial.

The thing is a thread like this is what’s causing the problem. Una over glorify it too much, I get you are wondering why some deny their Igbo identity is there but while you worry yourself about the deniers, you completely forget about the bigger percentage of the non-deniers.  It is like how in an effort to cause problems, the NL chameleon, Alj_harem, opened a thread about how Anioma denies being Igbo but disregarding the anioma doing such aren't the majority. Take what you hear on NL or online with a little grain of salt.
The Ikwerre that deny Igbo, I believe you should just let them pick or choose whatever as long as they don't think or believe their opinion is universal thus speaking for everyone and dragging everyone into their mold of believes.

ak47mann:
This site love tribalism is already on front page carry go  i hope you post cheque to all the bigots in the house,

I just noticed.   Na wa oo!!! this made it on the front page.

Seun i hail thee

When reading the OP topic, all I read are nothing but stereotypes Africans have for African-Americans and knowing how people fake it so much on this forum, I can tell the OP is as African-American as I am.

ak47mann:
All these wanabe igbo half baked people should answer their real name igbo name is not for show  

GBAM!!!!!!!!!!.
I'm not sure if the OP is Igbo or not, na him kno, but na true talk you come dey speak
All the pretending is becoming too much that it is starting to look pathetic.
I actually just saw someone with an igbo name for account but yet insulting Igbo.  Do you notice all the Igbo pretenders always claim to be from Anambra when asked.
Then we have those claiming SS and do you notice, all the pretenders always claim to be either from PH or Warri and once in a awhile Edo comes into the mix.
Originality no dey for these one oo
Na wa oo!!!

otokx:
The Ikwerres actually have no problem at all but its some idle Igbo people that want to force their identity on we peoples of the Niger Delta. Why they cannot leave us alone baffles me?

All these pretending on NL  na wa o!! for una.

@OP
Depending on the Ikwerres you speak to. Some see themselves as Igbo, while others do not. Monalisa chindua, Ducan Mighty and Tonto Dike are of Ikwerre stock and all three identify themselves as Igbo; online on NL there's two ikwerre i've seen so far and that is Igboboy and I think Ezeuche is also ikwerre but i'm not sure and they identify themselves as Igbo. They probably have family members whom will agree with them and at the same time disagree with them. The thing is Igbo denial in SS is there but in a limited amount but people over glorify it online thus making it appear as a huge problem when it is not. In SS, the problem is viewed as no problem at all and SE should imitate that belief. Let the few deny as much as they want as long as they don't drag everyone else into.

MarcAnthon:
Wow! It was most definitely a saner society then. Some of those pictures remind me of pictures I have seen of present day Nairobi. . . so cute.

I used to feel sad that present day Nigeria does not compare to what the US was 50 years ago, little did I know that in some ways we don't even compare to what we were 50 years ago. It's such a shame. And there's only one reason for this : endemic bad leadership

Nairobi
I feel you just insulted Nairobi.

MeGaStReEt:
what went wrong?

The Europeans left that's what went wrong then Nigerian politicians/the indigenous took over and corruption invaded.

PapaBrowne:
errm . . . no! I didn't miss the point.
I know its all politics. And I stated my views early enough.
But my reference here is to the undertones by both parties and they depict a prostration and a validation of superiority of the EDO heritage.
A neutral reader will come up with the conclusion that the group being discussed is perceived as seniors by the discussing groups.

you got all that from these thread.
Well everyone chest-beat once in a while on NL so you are entitled to do so too but know it is nothing but a fiction reality.

ekt_bear:
And let the record stand that the above picture is misleading.

Those fighting to assert themselves over Edo in this thread are Igbo, not Yoruba. . . there is no symmetry between our positions.

We have claimed a historical connection, but are not saying that this is necessarily any reason to be joined at the hip.

In fact I've advocated the right to self-determination, autonomy and making your own path.

Compare this with the remarks of others. . .

LOL   I can tell you right now, as someone laughing at the conversation going on this thread by both group, your assumption is as inaccurate as saying the sky is pink and the picture is not misleading whatsoever but rather an accurate description.  Upon reflection, the Yoruba claiming Edo are higher than the Igbo claiming edo, did you miss the comment I replied to? The Yoruba posters from what I'm getting are in an endless loop of saying Edo is our brother, we come from the same people, we share the oba name, edo has claimed Yoruba, among other things and in respect, all those comments were written after Gareth, physics, etc. replied which upon reading their answers should have ceased such replies on both sides. The context of that line of replies surpasses the context of the line of replies by the Igbo on this thread. I remember one kept arguing with an edo that edo came from Yoruba because the word Benin is supposedly an iteksiri word, and then there are those that opened monikers claiming to be Edo just to claim Edo is their brother then we have the one that attacked Beaf for posting a graph that supports the belief that Edo connection is closer to SS than Yoruba even though it is what the Edo posters claimed, etc. When we compare and contrast the people replying among the two groups, despite an Igbo opening this thread, the account of Igbo replying on this thread are less than 10 people of the Igbo on this forum as oppose to the Yoruba group.  Apart from the OP, Onlytruth, ACM10, Nri and odumchi, almost all the Igbo on this forum disregarded the thread. Knowing how odumchi replies, there is a higher chance he came into the conversation due to his love for history thus the reason when I read his replies, I don't laugh because I know if not for his love for history, he wouldn't be here. Nri is another person that though he is replying, he's replies has nothing to do with the thread but rather lashing out at Benin. The picture is as misleading as saying a cat licks itself in an effort to bath itself.

“We have claimed a historical connection" is going to be the excuse to justify the desperation I saw on this thread then the same analogy has to be applied to Igbo cause both sides are speaking of history connection.

IMO, the opening on the thread is for a good reason, it just the OP started it out with a myth in effort to destroy another myth thus destroying the thread before it even began. I understand the frustration behind the opening of thread, he did after all mention his motivation for the thread was Jason constantly pulling Edo towards SW thus the reason behind it is justifiable because Jason also does that to delta state which is rather irritating. The delta I grew up in wouldn't follow that path thus rather than speaking for all of us, he should just speak for his people that is if he’s actually is a delta.  Just like Delta, Edo also has different ethnic group residing within itself; among these groups, there are some whom have nothing in common with SW and wouldn't want to join or be path of SW when Nigeria breaks up and I think that was the motivation behind the opening of this thread/

For the SE/SS connection argument
I just noticed the great deal of people constantly trying to firmly draw a wedge between the SE and SS connection are neither SE nor SS.  If the SS Igbo can co-exist, even intermarry, with other groups in SS without any problem, what makes it less likely the same wouldn’t happen with SE Igbo.   Anyway, shouldn’t the matter be left to people from that region rather than others, not part of our region, butting heads into it

Na wa oo!! This is the internet after all and it does allow others to voice their opinion thus carry-on just stop wishing badluck and division to SS

Damn, 17 replies already in just 10 mins of I writing this. The moderators must be happy because this thread has the potential to reach 100 pages in less than 3 days

NRI PRIEST:
I am waiting for all you Great Benin defenders; Bring it on lets see who has substance!! I haved lived in Benin and I know their insecurities! People give these bunch more credits than they deserve thats why a Benin person will start developing superiority complex!! Who born their mama
And for those wey say "bad belle",bad belle for what exactly? Please explain to me! What does Benin have that might have caused me to hate on them?? For your info;I am an Anambra Igbo kpomkwem! We dont envy nor jealous ppl rather we find a way to beat them at their own backyard!! Ask the IGNORANT OBA EREDIAUWA The man is scared of the Igbos!!

ha, insult upon injury.
What did an Edo man do you?
As an Anambra man, there's a high chance you have an Edo ancestry so there is a high chance you are insulting your great great great great grandfather.

ekwy nwa:
which goodwill and who is trying to hijack what

I'm assuming goodwill as peace, unity, etc wey dey for SS.

As for the hijacking, ask him.

But I am seeing people trying desperately to cause division, destroy the peace and create sadness onto SS especially on these forum.
To summarize it: people wishing badluck onto SS and it is usually not individuals from the east.
You should pay attention carefully whenever SS is brought up and you'll see what I mean.

tpia@:
^Who is fighting over edo?

Igbo and Yoruba. Which posters full for here? Is it Hausa and Fulani?

tpia@:
Myself?

Kindly go through the thread one more time and note my contributions.

Una does not necessary mean you, it means everyone battling on here so stop thinking highly of yourself.

tpia@:
Being nl, of course posters like the one who just posted, would rather develop a swollen head thinking he's all that, than listen to the saner voices on the thread who pointed out nobody cares who anybody wants to associate with.

I'm sure the op is laughing his butt off at those who took his bait.

ROFL.
Sorry for laughing at the una here.
Of what I read from page 1-23, despite the so called claim of nobody cares, they are still fighting over Edo. 24 pages and counting, by tomorrow it might reach 35 pages but yet una do not care.
Insulting, putting eachother down, connecting history, comparing language, comparing songs, comparing outfits, comparing dance style, disregarding what edo are saying, etc but at the same time claiming I do not care. Oxymoron don't you think?
It is desperation and i said it like I see it.  
Pele oo!! for laughing at una misery but when I see desperation I laugh.

one more thing, I'm not Edo so what swollen head am I getting? No be my people una are fighting for and my people are fighting too and I'm laughing at the ones fighting as well. Abeg if have nothing to contribute, waka go.

So
Have you ever been to SE or SS where Igbo dey (other groups in SS do to but since the topic is on Igbo, I'll talk of them), they don't respect North either so feeling is mutual.

I smell another chest-beating thread from SW.

Thus moving on and I advice every Igbo to do the same.

Let them chest-beat without anything backing it up in peace

jason123:
I'm back!
WTF are y'all saying? especially the PDP paid agent called Papabrown. And who is the idio.t called Nri priest who dares insult the Oba? Well, I don't blame you all, after all, this is the internet! Keep deceiving yourselves! Lolz!

As for the Igbos here, the ONLY PERSON THAT SUPPORTED YOUR CLAIM WAS Papabrown, NO ONE ELSE! Alj Harem even spoke Bini to the facke guy, he could not reply.

I repeat, this is the internet. You'll can claim and counter claim. . .
How in the world can people say these two are not close but:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlvSJ2dc8nY[/flash]

But are close to this:

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If anything, the Obi of Onisha got his title from the Benin influence. Moreover, I have never in my life heard anything similar in Igbo culture to the Bini except from the Oba (tradition wise). The Yorubas still bear Oba in Togo so what the bleep are you guys on about?!

I repeat, this is the internet so have fun!

The real Edos on this thread, disregarding all those fake accounts people/monikers but the real Edos such as Gareth, Physics, etc did not accept any of the myth . This is getting pathetic, fighting over people that wants nothing to do with una.  jeez una have selective reading
To summarize what Gareth said, which in my opinion was the best answer, is that apart from few words with similar meaning, Edo is neither close or similar to Yoruba or Igbo
Physics somewhat mirrored the same statement excluding the Esan comment
Edo.girl narrated the same, that is if she is Edo, for awhile I've been suspecting that girl or boy.
There was one more Edo person here who said the same thing.

IMO this is getting pathetic.  
They've denied you both and una are still fighting over them. God forbid
I'm speaking of Yoruba and Igbo.  23 pages and the only people trying desperately to connect History, language, etc to Bini are either Yoruba or Igbo and the real people the topic is about, despite giving una their answers, are barely or rather are not commenting and their answers are disregarded.   One of the edo had to fight with one yoruba about edo history   Then  there are some whom are selectively picking which ever one they want while some are creating monikers claiming Edo just to support their side and some, though already claimed to be from another ethnic group are claiming edo here just to support their side

These thread is comical relief; it shows how desperate some Nigerians can get just to claim people that want nothing to do with them; like na by force on both side

The description of this thread
https://us.123rf.com/400wm/400/400/lenm/lenm1010/lenm101000061/7897455-parents-fighting-over-child-custody.jpg
Custody battle

Thanks for bringing this back up

Do anyone know the name of the so called kinsmen cause I am still waiting for it

usherroyal:
I agreed with calabar, apart from abuja and[b] lagos. [/b]If you take of imo state. What about kwara, Ilorin to be precise. So beautiful and peaceful. Try and visit there one day.

You are joking right? Have you even been to Lagos?

damola1:
If any country ceases to exist, the world will move on.

You misread me. I meant without Nigeria, the impact on the world would probably be around 0-1% thus nobody would not miss us or even care if its non-existent as oppose to nation such as North American nations, China/Japan, European nations excluding East Europe, Isreal, and to some extent some South American cease to exist today, yes the world will move on but it will have an impact on the world immensely.