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PoliticsRe: Tax Reform: Oyedele Counters Northern Elders, Says Governors Cancelled Meetings by OneOnland: 4:02pm On Jan 06, 2025
ivandragon:
The bill should encompass resource derivation distribution.

If states know that they would get 60% of whatever resources are harnessed from the states, the governors will be more interested because the more resources they are able to access, the higher thier revenues. A state like Ondo would supply the whole Nigeria with bitumen and export too. All the gold and other solid minerals that the north keeps allowing to be mined by illegal people would stop because the masses and government would now have a higher stake.

How can you remove vat on unprocessed agricultural produce and gas. How would states with comparative advantage in those areas be interested in investing in it? Or is it all tomatoes that would be turned into paste or all yam into flour?

Also, With a proper derivation formula, there would also be no need to increase VAT to 15%, double what is currently paid. The way the economy is at this time, such an increase would not be okay.
VAT is on consumption not on production. A state producing agricultural produce can always get its VAT revenue from the processed goods sold in e.g. stores. Ondo wouldn't get any vat on bitumen, etc. going by that logic, percentage of the income tax on the bitumen extraction, yes, royalties on the bitumen extraction, yes, but no VAT per se.

VAT is on final goods consumed, not on goods produced. So, the issue would be on "how well does your state consume VATable goods?"

It is remitted by the retailer, and not the manufacturer. Unless this bill stipulates otherwise.
PoliticsRe: Tax Reform: Oyedele Counters Northern Elders, Says Governors Cancelled Meetings by OneOnland: 3:46pm On Jan 06, 2025
The North milks South-South's oil tax revenue, that is not enough, gets Lagos state's and River state's VAT, the FG says it's enough but like a leach, a leach would never leave the host easily without throwing tantrums and staging oppositions.

Please, what does the North ever give the South? Their gold, they say it's theirs only, but continue to want to eat from the South's pot and leave terrorism and banditry in their passing.

The tax reform bill, it has to pass!
PropertiesRe: Seven Injured As Three-Storey Building Collapses In Rivers by OneOnland: 2:41pm On Jan 06, 2025
free2ryhme:
The statement highlights a serious and recurring issue—building collapses caused by the dangerous mix of inferior materials, poor regulatory oversight, and reckless building practices. Using substandard materials to save costs is not just cutting corners; it’s gambling with human lives. When developers prioritize profit over safety, the consequences are often tragic: lost lives, injuries, and significant financial losses that far outweigh the supposed "savings."

Poor regulatory control is another critical factor. If developers can bypass necessary approvals and build without government oversight, it creates a culture where safety standards are ignored. This isn’t just a failure of the builders but also of the system meant to enforce compliance.

The lack of value placed on human lives is the most disheartening part. A building collapse is not an accident; it’s a result of deliberate choices made to compromise safety. It’s time for stricter enforcement of building codes, stiffer penalties for violators, and more robust inspection mechanisms. Lives should never be an afterthought. As the commissioner rightly warns, this is no longer acceptable—it’s time for accountability and action to prevent further tragedies.
STOP using AI!
Christianity EtcRe: First Sunday In 2025: Pastor E A Adeboye Attends Service In Agbada (Pictures) by OneOnland: 9:27am On Jan 05, 2025
amaridigital:
He's Yoruba. What's the big deal?
You have problem.

Happy Sunday!
Foreign AffairsRe: "French Troops To Leave Ivory Coast" - President Alassane Ouattara. by OneOnland: 3:14pm On Jan 03, 2025
Ringstonermasks:
Don't allow sentiments to overwhelm your reasoning.

because people are saying the withdrawal of Colonial masters denote Progress in Africa, this can never be true. For a fact, most of the achievements and Structures we have today are those laid down by our colonial masters. They architectural transformation were vaped from the the foundation that was made by the masters.


The withdrawal of colonial master only favours few, mostly those in Politics and Military. If the Colonial master had stayed longer, we would have been far better than South Africa by now. That's a fact. South Africa is like Little London. I couldn't even tell the difference apart.


Some of u here would say i av a slave mentality(Stockholm Syndrome), but that's not true. The narratives that our colonial masters came to oppress us were propagated by those that wanted power for themselves.



All those shouting Colonial this and that, cut ties this and that, control this and that, they are all like my elder sister, she(flexible personality) would support something with passion cos people are supporting it and would tilt to the other side if the majority around her are standing there...


Anyways, we are ur sure plugs for website creation and app. Turn ur site to app too
So it is building architecture that is your problem? Benin had the great wall of Benin and they built it themselves, and was highly functional to them. None of the West's walls come close.

History says that Igomigodo (now Benin) had issues sometime, and what they did, they invited Oranmiyan. Note, invited. That is what occurs when a people see someone else as better, more advanced, they are invited. The West were never invited, were not asked to come, but they imposed themselves, imposing foreign rules, foreign ideas, and exploiting, plundering and intentionally creating political turmoils.

You're not only suffering from stockholm syndrome, you're also suffering from lack-of-know-ownself syndrome.

Colonialism is bad in all guises, terrible in all guises, besides that the Western colonialism was for resources exploitation, it meant the imposition of foreign ideologies that conflict existing philosophies (a debar of continuous growth for the colonized).


And regarding architectures, let me school you a little. The Brits built roads indeed for vehicles to ply from Lokoja to Lagos, for transportation of exploited minerals that Lokoja people were used as slaves to farm and to mine out, only that route.
South Africa isn't entirely developed architecturally, see Soweto and the rest, but asides the route for transportations, where they wanted to settle at, the Dutch settlers (South Africa's weather was so soo warm, they didn't only come to plunder, take slaves but also chased away the original owners of the land, and were bringing their children, their big families to settle forever in the South Africa.) Wanted to do to South Africa what they did to Australia. In Australia, where and how many are the aboriginals left? SA was just lucky to have been in Africa and had larger publicity in comparison to like Australia.

So Mr Ringer, know thyself and cure thyself. Foreign rules and the worst of it by the West is all shades of utter evil with completely zero silver lining unless the affected only choose to overlook them.
PoliticsRe: Nigerian Military Neutralizes 10,937 Terrorists In 2024, Arrests 12,538 by OneOnland: 2:31pm On Jan 01, 2025
More, more. They need to do more.
TravelRe: New Year 2025 Celebrations From Around The World In Pictures by OneOnland: 8:45pm On Dec 31, 2024
Maj196:
Nothing special just another day... Bonne annee
EmperorCaesar:
Are you an Aussie or are you based in New Zealand?





As for the topic, how is this January 1 different from Dec 31.


If this wasnt a leap year, today would have been Jan 1 already and not even the day knows the difference

All the same, It feels nice to see more days
New year is not just any other day. It is the day or approximate day that the earth completed yet another revolution around the sun.

If anything, tomorrow should be a day dedicated to appreciating Gd for earth and for keeping its inhabitants.

New year is special day.
AgricultureRe: Travel Out Or Cocoa Farming by OneOnland: 7:11pm On Dec 29, 2024
Do both, but make sure that your investment in the cocoa farming is much more. Cash crops farming is like free money. Many families I know are with wealth as a result of it, so do both.

And if you may not be on ground, engage in partnership for a start.
Foreign AffairsRe: IDF Completes Raid On Northern Gaza Hospital, Arrests 240 Terror Suspects by OneOnland: 5:40am On Dec 29, 2024
Biodun556:
The hospitals are the clogs that will make Israel land grabbing and genocide difficult so they have to burn the patients including babies and arrest the hospitals staff by calling them suspects. That's the usual tactic.
Palestine had 5 million population in 2023, still has about 5 million population till date.

IDF is tooooo moral by any human standard. You all Islamic terrorists should often bow and lick the boots of any IDF officer and lower cadre officer that you see.
Foreign AffairsRe: IDF Completes Raid On Northern Gaza Hospital, Arrests 240 Terror Suspects by OneOnland: 5:35am On Dec 29, 2024
Strength to the IDF! Victory to Israel at all times!
Foreign AffairsRe: Niger’s President, Abdourahmane Tchiani Criticised Over Attack On Nigeria by OneOnland: 5:52pm On Dec 28, 2024
“Nigeria is a nation that has its own capacity to protect its citizens… We are well capable and able to safeguard our country, and we’re doing it in this administration,” he affirmed.
Sarcastically, the above is soooo accurate. Nigeria is working. Security is astonishing.

Anyways, enough of these stories of verbal attacks and counter-attacks. Northern Nigeria, Niger, Chad, the sahel West Africa in short and terrorists are family members, they should sort themselves out.

The earlier the Northern politicians and fellow Islamic politicians pro-terrorism better put their childishness, finding fun and comedy in terrorism and put their personal interests asides to pursue development of themselves, their legacy and large generations unborn, the earlier they would put an end to the terrorism that they started and kindle by themselves.
Foreign AffairsRe: Houthis Target Israel's Ben Gurion Airport In Overnight Ballistic Missile Attack by OneOnland: 5:45pm On Dec 28, 2024
malali:
oneonland where have you been, i have seen botragelad and elusive001 more active than you...lol.
No one hates Israel. Give Palestinians their land, build a demilitarized zone between Israel and Palestine. Same way we have between north Korea and south Korea. Problem solved. But Israel wants Palestinians to live as their slaves. Its not a Muslim war. Thats the narrative shared by the Jews to drag in Christians. This war is between Arabs and Jews.
You terrorists sympathizers love to shift your goalposts. It's sickening.

So if it is demilitarized zone like North and South Korea that Palestine wants, why did Hamas use their funds to build tunnels leading to Israel and to Egypt instead rather than building the said demilitarized zone? Or demilitarized zone means underground tunnels for ratty terrorists again? huh

Also, Israel with the rest of the world, EU and co then agreed and drew out two-state solution for the State of Israel and the fake Palestine, but they and the co of Muslims/Arabs were fighting the lack of existence of Israel is what they seek not two-state solution.

Even to this day, Muslims/Arabs/terrorists sympathizers chant "from river to the sea, they want to continue coveting Israeli lands", so you were saying what again?

Hamas went into Israel and murdered young and old 1200+ Israelis, kidnapped and committed rape on women, you lots jubilated, celebrated and revelled over it, and murking "no one can kill an ideology". So, what happened to your said demilitarization zone then?

You're a Muslim, and deception is your unholy way. I'm not surprised.
Foreign AffairsRe: Houthis Target Israel's Ben Gurion Airport In Overnight Ballistic Missile Attack by OneOnland: 4:14pm On Dec 28, 2024
malali:
Israel Army is great in propaganda, why are they fighting the same war every 10 years for over a hundred years now ?
It's simple, you Muslims say Israel is your mortal enemy, the life of one Jew, the path of 10,000 of you to paradise. You say it is an ideology. Israel is for peace, hadn't taken war on the root-cause of terrorism, which is Islam and the koran, and which would mean all Muslims (nothing like moderate) would either have to die or renounce their religion forever.

Israel decides not to take war to the root-cause of the terrorists/Arab problem, and treats the symptoms instead. So, often and often, since your ideologies don't die, having to destroy the terrorists and terrorists' military capabilities just seem be it, every "10 years for over hundred years".

Israel Army doesn't propaganda. In fact, they understate themselves.
Foreign AffairsRe: Houthis Target Israel's Ben Gurion Airport In Overnight Ballistic Missile Attack by OneOnland: 4:00pm On Dec 28, 2024
malali:
Bunker buster bombs cost 100 million dollars each. And there is zero guarantee there is anyone in the bunker and there are 100 of thousands of bunkers. The whole Israel economy cannot buy enough bunker bombs to blast all the bunkers in Yemen. Some wars don't make sense
Not bunker buster, perhaps "mountain rumbler"?
Foreign AffairsRe: Houthis Target Israel's Ben Gurion Airport In Overnight Ballistic Missile Attack by OneOnland:
malali:
They have already done multiple joint Invasions, USA,UK,France...it didn't work. The Houthis just come out of the mountains when the coast is clear, fire their ballistic missiles then the disappear back into the mountains. How can you fight someone like that ?
Disappear into the mountains? Cool. They'd use cheap bomb made of dynamites to crack and destroy the mountains, and all the terrorists under it and their prostitutes, dead, destroyed from rubble, and the stones of the mountains would even be more helpful in escalating the bombing. And should they be hiding inside the caves or underground the mountains, even better, "stuck underground they'd be".

If what you said is true, I can say, Israel and US has got easy luck with this indeed. Dynamite-powdered bomb, and the rocks of the mountains would do the rest for them. All thanks to Father Nature.

Or they could go stone-age and use sling. Even lower cost.
PoliticsRe: Ooni’s Ex-Queen, Naomi Silekunola On Hunger Strike In Agodi Prison, Says Mother by OneOnland: 7:46am On Dec 28, 2024
otipoju:
The mistake they made was to announce on radio that food was going to be shared somewhere....in this harsh times.

Negligence is a tort so her arrest is in order. But one good day she suppose don dey bail. Na mother of the child of a royal prince.

Even western governments protect their family members.

Ooni no get levels at all. He is seen everywhere at parties so he no too get value to apply royal pressure in times like this.

Pata Pata dem go arrest her foundation manager to take the fall.
She'd be let go of by the court eventually. And you're correct, she's supposed to be bailable, even without the royalty's interference.
PoliticsRe: Ooni’s Ex-Queen, Naomi Silekunola On Hunger Strike In Agodi Prison, Says Mother by OneOnland: 7:43am On Dec 28, 2024
Besides arraigning the Queen, can the said mothers that threw their children/wards over the fence also be arraigned?
CelebritiesRe: Software Engineer Questions Vdm’s ₦180M Hack Claim (video) by OneOnland: 8:31pm On Dec 27, 2024
frankputer:
Ok,
Nothing is impossible in the world of computing.
However

With my Over 20 Years programming experience.

If you know the rigorous process of authorizing a transaction,
U will know it is technically not possible without his programmer’s hand in it,
He has the SHA2 secrete KEY(both public live secrete keys) for authentication and authorization.
More so, there must be a transaction processing cap.
And transaction limits.
that amount is hug to go through without checks, and it’s also traceable.
He can follow the transaction trails using all the successful transaction session ID’s
There must be a check mechanism for most top tire
Aggregate Service Providers over multiple transactions.
So it’s technically not possible,
But let him prove us wrong.
Note
Nothing is impossible in the world of computing.
That's not even possible, cause that'd mean the hacker hacked the bank targeting his account, and that'd be a bank vulnerability issue, not his website.

And hacking a bank? Please, who are the team of hackers?

If money was stolen from him indeed, his password was stolen, maybe in a hack and his auth device/token device, etc. was taken control of or plainly stolen.
CelebritiesRe: Software Engineer Questions Vdm’s ₦180M Hack Claim (video) by OneOnland: 8:20pm On Dec 27, 2024
His logon access to the banking infrastructure could have been hijacked, but his bank account through a webapp was definitely not hacked.

"Hacked" is just like the go-to word on any cybersecurity issue, but not every cybersecurity exploit is a hack. He could have been tricked for the malicious actor to gain control of his device/auth devices and spoofed his password or something, but definitely wasn't a hack on his bank account, but perhaps, hack on other stuff.
Foreign AffairsRe: WHO Chief Says He Was At Yemen Airport When It Was Hit By Israeli Airstrikes by OneOnland: 8:05pm On Dec 27, 2024
Wallade:
I read your statement in bold letters again and I am wondering if you are truly not sentimental.

Now you added insanity to your situation. You are simply pathetic: Justifying Israelis acts of terrorism and genocide on nairaland like the Israelites recognize or care about you.

Fool!
Justifying Israelis acts of ...
No dearest, I'm educating you on the state of things.
on nairaland like the Israelites recognize or care about you.
Yeah, like, who gives a hoot? You're delusional.
Fool!
I'm not gonna exchange words with you, ok? Get help!
PoliticsRe: Herdsmen Will Pay Dearly For Christmas Day Attack In Benue - Gov. Hyacinth Alia by OneOnland: 3:08pm On Dec 27, 2024
Ok, let them pay.
Foreign AffairsRe: WHO Chief Says He Was At Yemen Airport When It Was Hit By Israeli Airstrikes by OneOnland: 2:47pm On Dec 27, 2024
Wallade:
You need to relocate to Israel ASAP since you are sentimental towards Israel.

You said killing of 50,000 people is "only". Does life of a human matter to you? Do you even see those women and children bombed and killed as wrong?

What is your definition of genocide? How did you know that Israel does not want to eliminate the entire Palestinian population, especially in Gaza?
I'm not sentimental towards Israel. I was helping you out by telling you that if Israel was genocidal and has genocidal interests, the population of Palestine was 5 million in 2023, till this date, still about 5 million. If Israel was genocidal, they would have reduced the population through death of the populace reducing it to only 50,000 persons. Israel has the resources and potential manpower to do that, but chose not to despite the spites by Muslims and terrorists sympathizers all over the world, and the constant bombing of civilians and civilian structures in Israel by the terrorists.

I'm not sentimental towards any nation or cause, read my post. Israel is and ever remains beautiful. Sanity also says Israel is often always correct. Evidence and reality reveals that the IDF is most moral amongst peers even when no one was watching.

Re-read my post without your own insanity, ok?
Foreign AffairsRe: WHO Chief Says He Was At Yemen Airport When It Was Hit By Israeli Airstrikes by OneOnland: 9:56am On Dec 27, 2024
Wallade:
Israel can simply be described as a terrorist nation. They are executing genocide against the Palestinians.

Their war and agenda against Syria and Lebanon is suspicious. They are fighting USA's proxy war against Iran.

Shame on Israel!
Palestine has about 5 million population. If Israel was genocidal as you falsely conjure up, only 50,000 people are supposed to be left in the area.

Israel has the chance to commit such genocide but they are not doing such. They could just do that and damn the consequences, but they don't and never have interest to. Israel is such beautiful country, IDF is such moral force.
Foreign AffairsRe: WHO Chief Says He Was At Yemen Airport When It Was Hit By Israeli Airstrikes by OneOnland: 9:51am On Dec 27, 2024
EnEnPeecee:
angry

The WHO should clear ROAD fast fast because the job must be done. Yemen must be leveled like Gaza and Lebanon. The Islamic madness from these terrorists must stop.

IDF more bullets to your barrel's and guns. Kill them all and send them to their blood drinking and demonic allah in kaaba
No don't let them level Yemen. Yemenis have suffered so much in the hands of Saudi Arabia, their sufferings shouldn't be compounded. Beautifully, Israel would target the Houthi terrorists and their environs, and precisely target the Houthi terrorists, and leave the Muslim Yemenis who are yet to sign up for terrorism be.
PoliticsRe: Tope Fasua: Weak Naira Is Good, Many People Can’t Travel Again – Tinubu’s Aide by OneOnland: 7:34pm On Dec 26, 2024
"Weak Naira Is Good, Many People Can’t Travel Again". Funny people. If people cannot travel again, that means everyone in the travelling economic chain has been rendered jobless.

People need to travel, monies need to change hands, that is economy, many people need to be included, that is employment. This government is a funny one.
PoliticsRe: Again, Niger Junta Leader Accuses France Of Arming BokoHaram, Funding Terrorism by OneOnland: 7:15pm On Dec 26, 2024
kingbee90:
angry
Yet Amoda Ogunlere aka Bulaba has been dancing "Skelewu" with French president Macron lately.
I have always known that France has a hand in the backwardness of Central African Republic, Niger republic, Cameroon, Dr. Congo etc.

Na wah!
Of course they do. Even in Nigeria here in federal ministries, do you know how much they "whisper" into the ears of the officials, and never a useful whisper, but one to ensure backwardness always and to serve their own economic interests, data collection interests, etc. often solely to the detriment of the country's people, with zero benefits, and perhaps some fancy perks/huge monies to the officials involved.

And that's only the ministries.
PoliticsRe: Again, Niger Junta Leader Accuses France Of Arming BokoHaram, Funding Terrorism by OneOnland:
Botragelad:
Deal with the bloody Terrorists and stop blaming the west already! 🤷🏼
And how will they deal with the terrorists? Terrorism in Nigeria and the bulk of West Africa isn't about weapons or even difficult intelligence gathering (as "everyone" knows the foot terrorists and their hideouts), but about structure of governance and society, and openly, the West, the former colonialists, the Europeans who jump at any opportunity that could destabilize anywhere they have exploitative economic interest in in Africa. Would encourage terrorism, militancy, any form of destabilization tactics, and their coy NGO's are ever up to the tasks, their supposed diplomats and even corporates. It's open stuff.

In order of ever-fuelling terrorism in the bulk of West Africa:
1000 index - the West (as they ever receive or convince or talk away the minds of people in government in the countries and it often works, reason the leaders are called puppets) and also on side with their foot soldiers, fund and encourage the terrorism;
400 index - the wealthy ones among the Muslims, in Nigeria, e.g. Northern elites who love the terrorism, sponsor them even and it's their way of acting lord-like over the poor ones by having a control of terrorists that do their violence biddings, and also corruption from military budgets;
100 index - Iran, Turkey and other Middle East Islamic countries. Their influence is lower and their monies and weapons are even in lower supply compared to other sources.


So, should the super ambitious military leader even want to destroy the terrorists, given the ever-presence of the above, they are like seeds, they'd spring back up as poverty, bribery of Imams and huge population continuously makes person A become a terrorist and kill his own friend, or become a bandit and kidnap his own inlaw.


Final bottom line: the West has a big dipped hand. France is a West!


Edited: And their solution to it is unity. That if Niger says that France is an enemy, Nigeria also says France is an enemy, Congo says France is an enemy and so on. The Europeans united in evil of exploitation of other continents, subsequently had their EU ever united in the progress of Europe and subjugation of the supposed third worlds. The Africans should have their own north star of unification.

African. countries are small in terms of resources and ability to semi-independence should sanctions, but as Yoruba's say, if tiny spiders join hands together, they'd lift the elephant. An Africa where a sovereign country's leader, Gaddafi is murdered by the US and Europe, and the rest Africa and even Islamic coalition countries do not look away is achieveable but by unity of strength and purpose, otherwise, "forever puppets of the West".
PoliticsRe: Oyo State Sharia Court Inauguration Suspended by OneOnland: 6:36am On Dec 26, 2024
TheNiceGuy:
It got nothing to do with non Muslim and those who are making the loudest noise are the Muslims by names in Yorubaland, the olobeeyo musulumi.
These people can't even read Quran not to talk of knowing the meaning.

They're criminals, the adulterers and fornicators, they drink alcohol, eat human flesh and drink human blood, use human being for sacrifice. Their fear is that Shari'ah will stop them from all these sinful barbaric acts, that's why they're scared and hellbent in going against it.

To them, Shari'ah is death sentence.

They're menace to Islam
No!

To them, there is already law, constitution of the country that is comprehensive and has already dictated those. Killing other humans for whatever purpose has already been dictated by the constitution and the Nigerian Police, even Amotekun, Civil Defence, all enforce that. Since there is the constitution, it like a devil of confusion that would then seek to introduce another body of law for same purpose, creating parallel justice system, a precursor to unnecessary instability.

Why are hellbent on shariah known to have destroyed northern Nigeria, known to have destroyed Afghanistan?

How about you channel your energy to the upliftment of the Nigerian constitution rather than seeking parallelism known for destruction?
PoliticsRe: Oyo State Sharia Court Inauguration Suspended by OneOnland: 6:22am On Dec 26, 2024
There should just be law, particularly in the Southwest that religion should stick to religion only, and under no circumstance creep into law, commerce, banking, politics, health, core education or any other aspects of society.

Religion means the mode of worship of God, god or gods and its attendant practices and observations. Under no circumstance should any religion go out of religion to dictate to any other aspect of society, as the constitution is supreme and only supreme to dictate laws, international standards of banking have made provisions for banking, and so on and so forth.

Religion = religion, limit itself to religion only, and its activities limited to their for-worship-buildings (except in times of e.g., publicity, temporary short time-based external settings).
PoliticsRe: Sharia Court Unveiling In Oyo Postponed by OneOnland: 11:59pm On Dec 24, 2024
It shouldn't only be postponed but thwarted completely.

SW and its environs is what it is, open-minded, hospitality, peace-first as a result of obedience to the principles of Oduduwa, iwa omoluabi, that some foreign violence and senseless brain-reducing laws be not introduced in anyway to it.

Whatever muslims are there amongst the Yoruba should practise their religion and limit it to religion and religion only, not to law or commerce or politics, or any such. Limit to religion and religion only. As much as any other religions.

Yoruba successfully had traditionalists with over 400 gods (analogically religions) living in religious peace, and that's by following the principles of Oduduwa, of well-behaviour.

Under no circumstance, regardless of whatever huge bribe or threat to life should any Yoruba tow the path that may lead to unnecessary disagreements, strife or instability among Yorubas.

Yoruba ('all of us') should often be first, and honoring/obedience to Oduduwa, the father of Yoruba should often be the Gdly path.
Christianity EtcRe: How Is Jesus God If He Does Not Know The Hour? by OneOnland: 7:23pm On Dec 24, 2024
From what I've understood from christians, jesus is god and could often use father, son due to this: there is god the father and that is he, god the father came to earth in human flesh, and that is god the son, jesus.

Roughly meaning that jesus is god, the earthly human flesh he.

Now as jesus, the earthly man, god the human form, thus the son, was crucified, dead, buried and resurrected, ascending back unto heaven then left for his disciples yet another representation of he, holy spirit (a spirit now, not god being god, and not god in the form of man) to jesus the son's disciples and followers.

So, going by that, jesus is god on earth, holy spirit is spirit of god, thus it is god the father, the son and the holy spirit, the trinity.

That is what Christians say, and essentially the reason for the trinity by the holy Catholic church.


Now, to your main illustration that he jesus doesn't know the hour, that's easily understandable to the sense that he as an earthly human may not be able to say or conditioned himself to be able to say, but as he goes back to heaven as he, the father, he would then come back again to earth to enact the said judgements as a 'thief in the night'.

So, even without the Catholics' giving, from the new testament itself, it would oft easily be deductible that jesus' claims just thus means god's representation on earth.

It is finished!

To believe that is to be christian, to not believe that is to be anti-christian. Choose what's good for ya.
Jobs/VacanciesRe: Recruitment Of 3,927 Customs Officers 2025 by OneOnland: 8:25pm On Dec 23, 2024
Cindypresh:
Where's the link abi dem don select already??


Wuruwuru is their trademark
What do you want to do with the link?

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