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so she claims,even at that for the fact she decided to keep it doesnt stop it from been the boys seed

bournvita:
Are we reading the same story or what? Didn't they tell her to terminate the pregnancy?

well said,now please help me ask the girl if she had the consent of the father before she went to hide the child in uk?if am to go by what you said the girl should be arrested first for kidnapping her own child
and just for the record,it is not possible for a husband to rape his own wife,that can only happen in the imagination of the white men.the funny part is this same white men don't have laws that say wifes can rape her husbands,what a sick world you people leave in

soulglo:
YES!!!! YESS!!!!! YESSSS!!!! Onoja12 a father can kidnap his own child. A mother can also kidnap her child. No parent has the right to take away a child without the consent of the other. Only on NL will you hear that husbands cannot rape their wives and parents cannot kidnap their children. You have asked thus same question a couple of times already and I think you just want someone to tell you that every father has the right to take any child their sperm contributed in making. That's not how it works.

well said,now please help me ask the girl if she had the consent of the father before she went to hide the child in uk?if am to go by what you said the girl should be arrested first for kidnapping her own child

soulglo:
YES!!!! YESS!!!!! YESSSS!!!! Onoja12 a father can kidnap his own child. A mother can also kidnap her child. No parent has the right to take away a child without the consent of the other. Only on NL will you hear that husbands cannot rape their wives and parents cannot kidnap their children. You have asked thus same question a couple of times already and I think you just want someone to tell you that every father has the right to take any child their sperm contributed in making. That's not how it works.

what you are trying to tell me is that british government are in the habit of kidnapping people from Nigeria in connivance with some illegal policemen?

coogar:
where was the crime committed?
go on youtube & check the number of times criminals like this grandma have been arrested in nigeria on camera.....

nigerian police are not loyal to you, they are only loyal to their bellies. if they get paid, they would physically take the woman to the airport & hand her over to the british authorities.

Thank God you said in britain,for now,that child is in Nigeria so is the father,and contrary to what you dream of,Nigerian government officials would not assist the british in anyway on this matter,first the british have to prove that the child in question is there citizen,once they cannot establish that then no assistance,second the mother of the child isn't a british citizen either,so you do the maths

coogar:
in britain, yes!

Can a father steal his own child

coogar:
so you are saying any child can be stolen from her mother in the UK cos that child is not yet a citizen? you need to go out more....even if mother & child are illegal citizens, a crime was committed by granny. illegal immigrants have rights too & the law must protect them.

as for nigerian courts, i laugh in portugese. nigeria is the easiest place to get the baby. just motivate few mobile police unit & the child would be produced. do you know the number of criminals that foreign authorities have caught in nigeria with little or no effort?

the poverty in that country means that nothing is impossible. that child would be brought back without the case going to any court. for the nigerian police, it's all about money & met police would have plenty of cash to throw around to impress their superiors here.

like i said the mother is a born Nigerian,as for breaking the law,first the child is not yet a british citizen in other words the baby in question is still a Nigerian,so it does not apply,secondly you can't come to Nigeria to try a Nigerian,you first have to pass though the Nigerian courts

coogar:
how do you know the mother isn't a dual-citizen? even if she's not - the crime was committed on british soil. the grandma broke a law in britain....british law would prosecute her for that regardless of whatever is written in the nigerian constitution.

the child both father and mother are born Nigerians,which definitely makes nigerian law equally relevant

Mondisweets:
this child probably has UK papers, which makes English law pretty much relevant

a father can not abduct his child

carefreewannabe:
I didn't know child abduction was African culture.

I thought child abduction was Boko Haram's job.

you care about the woman but don't care about the man,that is what you are telling me.
secondly African psychology is different from the white man even a fool knows that

carefreewannabe:
Yeah, it is a BIG advantage to take the child away from the mother the child was used to. Big advantage.



http://www.healthyplace.com/abuse/articles/impact-of-parental-child-abduction/

that's what the girl should have agreed to before going to hide behind uk law

aderonila18:
If it's about the best interest of the child then he wouldn't have separated her from her mother . Children especially of that age need their mother. Why didn't he work on a co stodgy agreement where the child will stay with one parent during the school term and another during the holiday? That way the child will get the love and attention of both sides

am not like you,am not brain washed am pure breed,my passport if full,yet i cant stay outside Africa for more than 2 weeks but nothing can put me against African way of life

carefreewannabe:
You would fly out of Nigeria TONIGHT if you could.

morally a father collect his child,not because he wants to keep it for himself but to have her within reach to have her fathers love,that is my opinion,if not for personal selfishness this is suppose to be an advantage to he child.
i think you need to read what you sent me just the beginning alone says it all
There seems to be a presumption that all child custody matters in Nigeria will be decided in favor of the father. While it is true that under some customary law systems the father is privileged in custody matters this is not uniform or universal and does not apply to any statutory marriage under the Matrimonial Cause Act.

carefreewannabe:
I don't care on whose behalf she is acting. She committed a crime, LEGALLY AND MORALLY.

Now do your research on Nigerian custody laws.

Here is something to start with.

http://mzagams./2011/11/18/child-custody-in-nigeria/

wake up,even in that uk,they treat you like a black,a less of a human according to them,so wake up

carefreewannabe:
Whether they are black or white or green or purple doesn't matter.

talk is cheap,doesn't make it fact,my sister you are entitled to you own opinion but the way you are going,you definitely wouldn't be able to keep a family

carefreewannabe:
I have slowly the feeling that you are the useless, irresponsible son of the WICKED "grandmother" or you are else related to this wicked family.

Is this name of your wicked mother or aunty?

Annette Ehiemere

the skin is black,both her father and mother are black,on paper the baby may be British but i can assure you by nature she is black and African

carefreewannabe:
Don't be ridiculous!

The child is a British resident.
Made, born and bred in Great Britain.

I am so looking forward to the day when they get her fat azz.

stop calling the grandmother,she is acting on behalf of her son,so its the father acting not his mother,the mother is just his tool.
as to your question its the boys child too and the girl denied him of his child for two years,and please tell me what part of Nigerian law says so
please note that Nigerians make law to keep family not to break them up

carefreewannabe:
And this is JUST one of the reasons why the WICKED grandmother had NO RIGHT to take the child away.
Was it her womb that carried the child or her sperm that impregnated the girl?

Can you now see how you are contradicting yourself?

And even in Nigeria, the father has LEGALLY no right to take the child as he was NOT married to the mother.
Do your research.

according to whose law,the responsibility you speak of is what the guy just assumed

carefreewannabe:
Yes, if a father acquires parental responsibility then the mother can't take the child away.

If the boy had married the girl, he would have had more rights.
He hasn't. He left and the girl stayed alone with the child. She carried the responsibility alone, thus she has more rights.

i can assure you we have 224 tribes in Nigeria not only igbo

cococandy:
Which elder? Did he pay her bride price?

You just dey talk ignorantly.
I don't know about your tribe. In igbo tribe,if you don't pay a woman's bride price,any child born of both of you belongs to the woman's family and will bear the girl's father's name.

So don't think I was agreeing with you when I said his village elders.
I meant people biased in his favor.

The boy's family from their name is igbo.

UK courts will be fairer to him than an unbiased gathering of igbo village elders.

Say what you know.

suit yourself

riskit33:
Mind you i'm a gorgeous damsel and not a 'brother', and you're yet to make any sensible point.

not in Nigeria and hell cant help you,only you cant bring a child to life,even with test tube you still need a man sperm,so you are both joint stake holder definitely not your sole own

carefreewannabe:
Not probably but definitely and not only in the UK but in 76 other countries that signed the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction, or Hague Abduction Convention.

I would make hell freeze if it was my child. Knowing that part of the family is located in the USA, a country that signed the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction, or Hague Abduction Convention, I would make their lives a living hell till the day I die.

Wicked family.

is he igbo?

cococandy:
Stop spreading falsehood.

Igbo customary courts will be harsher on him than UK courts. UK may even grant him visitation rights.

In igbo land,as long as they are not married,the child has no business with him.

QED!

simple because she thought there was noway the child can be taken out of uk,and yes she was hiding in the uk,the boys family simply use brain for am

carefreewannabe:
LEARN TO READ!

SHE DIDN'T HIDE.

SHE LET THE WICKED GRANDMA LIVE IN HER APARTMENT.

its your thought that is myopic, can a mother kidnap her child let me ask you?

semitunde:
Why do you keep repeating that a father can't kidnap his own child? That kind of thought is myopic. There are several instances where a seeming father can be said to have kidnapped his own child.

with the mothers consent as if she is God,did the mother consult with the father before hiding the child in uk,or that is not a crime

malkinburg:
Can u hear ur dum asssss. A man cannot kidnap his own child but his mother can abi A crime is a crime. She took the child without her mothers consent across the border.

May God forgive her devilish actions. If u know them personally u had better reach out to them and have them do right by God. He is watching.

probably in the uk,but definitely not in Nigeria

carefreewannabe:
And by doing so they committed a crime.

i don't have compassion for the woman,only the child.
and i do have sisters also do i have brothers and a child too
women need to learn that they are not more important than men,the world is balanced lets keep it that way

fireforfire:
abegii e don do. u too argue dis case like say u no get any compqssion for d woman sef.
haba u no get sisters?

now you understand,and that is why they had to bring the child to Nigeria by all means

carefreewannabe:
Like I said,

if a Nigerian comes to Britain, he has to obey British laws.
If a Briton comes to Nigeria, he has to obey Nigerian laws.

Good same question we don't need drones,does who need it should use it in there country,not coming to Africa creating wars and sickness,for wicked and selfish purposes

ISpiksDaTroof:
How do you know? Do I sound like I'm assuming or speaking authoritatively? Besides, When will you Learn to stand on your own feet, stop begging, and stop believing you're entitled to what belongs to others? If you need drones so bad build one with your stolen funds. Wasnt your President commissioning a laughable homemade one the other day which clowns like yourself heaped praises on? Why don't you make use of it?

actually in nigeria its the elder who would settle this matter because she is not married to the guy,so the court can't help.there is no where in N
Nigerian constitution that give the child to the mother

cococandy:
Even in Nigeria he won't win.
Not in a law court.
Unless he intends for the village elders to judge the case

And yes he kidnapped the child.

a crime in whose eyes,in the british eyes and laws yes i agree a crime may have been committed but in the nigerian eyes and law no crime has been committed because a father cant kidnap his own child.and yes she was hiding if not she would have allowed the child visit the father in nigeria

carefreewannabe:
The girl wasn't hiding, she invited the paternal grandmother to stay with them.

And a crime is a crime, no matter how you justify it.

i repeat a man can not kidnap his own child,secondly we all know that there is no way a nigerian would take a british citizen to court in britain over a child and win,so let us tell our self the truth

cococandy:
If the guy was concerned about the child's welfare,he wouldn't kidnap her.
He would take the lady to court and let them judge give a fair hearing.

All I see is a little boy controled by his mother.