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BitterTruth01:
All historical sources have pinpointed the founding of Ike-ife as being in the 1st millennium AD/CE. This is around 1000 AD. I.e 10 century CE not BCE

No where has Ile ife empire/kingdom ever been mentioned in the BC/BCE era.

I can cite numerous sources for you but I’ll refer you to study the works of two professors of Yoruba extraction. I specifically mention yoruba scholars so the issue of bias is eliminated.
These are the men. You can search for their books.

it's still older than Benin.
A kingdom is a town with a king. Ife has a king? Yes.

waternogetenemy:
Please let nobody waste their time with this slave.

They are waiting for the day the owners of the land will rise up to chase the occupiers away.

That day is fast approaching.

e go be like film for their eye.

Back to Ille Ife the movie.

He came to derail the thread. Best you ignore him. I am ignoring him already. Enjoy the rest of your thread.

Stoplying:
Look, I present you first hand knowledge, you present le "national geographic screenshot" ? Are we talking at the same intellectual level ?
I presented proof, you should do the same instead of hiding behind national geographic.

National geographic is more authentic than some 19th century map you posted from one Mr Bowen of unknown enterprise or company.

Intellectual level? when you are still struggling with comprehension. E.g Kingdom vs Empire.

Stoplying:
So where is proof of your claim that Ife was an older kingdom than Benin empire ? You just keep dancing around playing with words and never proving your claims.
We are not in the business of just saying what we want, proof needs to be provided.

It's in the National Geographic screenshots I posted. Have a good morning.

Stoplying:
Dude, so all you need to claim Ife was an empire is to just say it ?
Dude, we actually have proof that Rome was an empire, where is your proof that Ife was an empire ?

Read my post again. Where did I write that ife was an empire? I deliberately used the word kingdom. Nok is the oldest civilization in the Nigeria area if not the west Africa area, but it was not an empire.

BitterTruth01:
This is revisionism of history . Stop it .

I did not type the history myself nor did I pull the history out of my black arse. I got them from National Goographic. What is your own source?

Stoplying:
Yet another example of the logic of Nigerian self-claimed history professors.
Genius, in 1897, the Roman empire was no longer in existence.
What type of madness lakes you guys believe you know anything about history, even though you know that history is not thought in your schools ? What type of special kind of stupidity is in your heads ?

You have answered your own question. In your map by Mr Bowen, Ile Ife Kingdom/power had declined greatly. Just as Britain came later on, Benin was also an empire that came into existence later on.

waternogetenemy:
u know their are lies people tell that make them look very stupid.

Oba of Benin created Ile Ife Kingdom.


That must be in your dreams.


A man that admits his mother is from Edo but his father came from ille ife.

In addition. Ife is much older than Benin.

Stoplying:
Nigeria where history is not thaught but where strangely everybody believes himself to be a university professor in history 🤣
Below is a Precolonial map from the 18th century, it was drawn by Emanuel Bowen.
Benin empire is much older than Ife village and Anioma are part of Benin. I myself am an Anioma.
Reality is far for m your delusions.
Benin empire was a large country but many of you uneducated people (who believe themselves to be professors) always confuse the Precolonial country referred to as Benin kingdom with its capital city (Benin city).
You guys always mistake your feelings and fairytales for history. History is not a story you tell, it is s discovery you make by studying texts written hundreds of years ago which describe what was happening while the author was writing the text.

You guys seem to love Ife fairytales centered on the Oba of Benin, they are convenient for your own claims of ownership of land.

Map of the British Empire in 1897. That means the British Empire is older than the Roman Empire, since Roman Empire did not appear anywhere on the map.

macof:
Benin City is a reserve of rich traditions and high reverence for the traditional monarch (Oba of Benin), who once led a powerful Empire.
One of such traditions is the habit of
addressing the Oba of Benin by various
appellations instead of his actual names as sign of deep respect and awe. It is no wonder, therefore, that the Oba of Benin
is known by several appellations.

Such appellations are:
Ovbi' Umogun Oza
The Child of the Oba whose mother hailed from Oza

Ovbi' Ekpen N' Owa
The son of the home leopard

Ovbi' Adimila
The son of Adimila (Adimila is Adimula (Oduduwa)

Ikeji Orisa
Second in command to the gods

Agbaghe, N'Ovbi Olokun
Olokun's son, the cynosure of all mortals

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

Ovbi' Ada, Ovbi' Eben
The child of the owner of the Ada =
scimitar and Eben = royal sword, Edo
symbol of sovereignty.

Ovbi'Ekenekene ma deyo
The son of beauty that never fades.

Ovbi'Ekuaho N'Olo, Ovbi'Ekuabo N'Olo
The son of the rocky arm, the brave and
powerful

Ovbie Ikpinhianbo kpuru no Gb'oduma
The son of the short fingered man that
was still able to kill a lion

Nohien utete no gh'ughe s'omwan
The king on a hill, who sees more than
everybody

Ovbi'Oghonwan nei bun aro
The son of the fearless, who looks
without twinkling his eyes

Ovbi'ode, ode n'ohan ren mu' ete
The son of the warrior whose enemies
got frightened at the announcement of
the approach

Uku Akpolokpolo
The mighty that rules

Ovbi' Adolo no dolo uwa dolo utomwen
The son of the wise judge and peace
maker who combined wisdom and
wealth with long life

Ovbi' oven owie no gbaisi
The son of the morning sun that covers
everywhere

Ovbi' Akpogunla, ogie no y'igho b'owa
The child of the womb of Akpogunla - the
warrior who fought big wars and built a
house of cowries


Oba n'osa
A king that is god

Ovbi' otolo n'olomi; Ologberonmwon nei rie iruen, ebo, ayemwinre eminiminimini
The son of the water controller, the son
of beauty itself, the starter of things and
the person whose reign saw people with
many tongues


These appellation are in cognissance of
the greatness of the Omo n'oba ne edo,
the Oba of Benin.

Notable mentions:

The son of Adimila (Adimila is Adimula [Oduduwa])

Abieyuwa N'Ovbi Odua N'uhe
The son of the wealthy Odua of Uhe(Ife).

Igbos would look for trouble and start crying. They detailed what could have been a good thread by their own hands.

Pristine664:
Yorubas that live in the East are trying sha, the trauma is immense, they don't even go out to vote.

They must not be smart to move there Sha. Like, why would they move to a region where people from that region themselves are fleeing.

Okay our dilector

paxx:
I blame Yoruba muslims..

Peter Obi will be back in 2027 to beg for votes again. Thank God his religious war take has been translated to several languages all over Nigeria.

Beremx:
It's so unfortunate that it's the Yorubas who voted massively for Tinubu are the ones lamenting about the high cost of food.
They should get ready in 2027 not to vote with ethnic sentiments

Ibos and delusion are 5 and 6.

Tinubu got more vote in the North West than even the South West where he comes from.

Christistruth03:
I prefer them to continue just to be double sure they will also loose again in 2027
The Muslims in the North and SW are already out of bounds for them
The others who voted with them are already begging for forgiveness on the account of the
heavy Tribal insults and bashing they are daily receiving

Then North is majorly Muslim. That's a very huge voting block.

Only 7 more years for OP to cry and wail.

[quote author=Goodvibes007 post=126972224][/quote]Same stuff still happening till date. Yorubas are very liberal. I am glad the last election shook them to the core and they are leaning more conservative.

Some people from other region are still on twitter crying over GRV's loss. They tried to organize a protest and failed. This protest would have ensured burning of infrastructure and government properties.

This same people also felt Hope Uzodinma rigged the electionin Imo but have you seen then plan any protest for Owerri? But small thing in Lagos, they want to occupy the Lekki Toll Gate, organize provocative Twitter spaces and solicit for funds.

Open your eyes, you "I'm Yoruba buts"

Goodvibes007:
He is right. Nigeria needs to be broken down into several pieces. As a Yorubaman, I am more related to a Yoruba from Benin Republic or even a Yoruba as far away as Ghana, but I am being forced to share a nation with Someone from the Sahel or someone more related to the camerounians.

He even confirmed in a post that even though he would be accepted by his igbos in Nnewi, he won't be accepted by other Igbos outside Nnewi.

You are spot on. The Berlin conference and colonialism messed up Africa. It divided brothers and sisters in a very bleeped up way. The French, English or German can NEVER share a country, yet they want Africans like Nigerians to live together in harmony.

Gyakie below is a Ghanaian musician. The title of her song in Akan is the same as Yoruba. When "The Yorubas" was tending in TikTok, a lot of Benin Republic Yorubas joined their kith and kins in SW Nigeria to help trend the videos.

What.

Good. They can make use of private security companies. That's the standard world wide.

Ezmans:
spot where the oil well is located in lagos I will credit your account with 5 million naira now now

This one has never heard of Aje Oil field and Ogo Oil field. LMAO

I am happy with this thread. A lot of ignorant Nigerians are being educated.

Bhella5:
They should start their refolusun from IMO State we want to check sumthin.

That's not going to happen. They prefer other people's region to get destroyed.

Just imagine how they voted APC enmasse in Imo to re-elect Hope Uzondima, but they wanted to impose a GRV on Lagos. Hope Uzondima is not even half as good as Sanwo Olu.

The Kogi election result is a good indicator of how 2027 would go for LP.

LMAO. LP online party too dey rate themselves.