₦airaland Forum

bennynaza:
Religion has completely messed up our traditional system.

At some point, most of our kids would not even know that we Africans had cultures and modes of contacting divinity before the Arabs and Europeans came and raped our civilizations.

Exactly! Same with technology too! They will never know gaming technologies such as ayo olopon and others, neither will they ever know our war technologies such as bow and arrow with charms and cutlasses, neither will they ever know the joy of having the whole population including women, moving about in flimsy loin-clothes! Also they will never know the joy of a good horse as mode of transportation for the rich or legmousine for the poor, and they'll never experience music being made on bamboo fluxes and goatskin drums since all they'll know is recorded digital music! ETC ETC ETC
Lastly they'll learn to hate their father (you) for not living in a remote part of the jungle in order to stay away from the foreign 'deculturisation' and for also participating in it by using a foreign language to comment on foreign technology with even more foreign technology (internet and phones)!! I weep for the future of some people's descendants in advance!

Wow! This dude is fugly!!

iRyan:
Despise? whos despising you for what you believe in. Someone points something out to you and that means the person automatically despises you? Are you being serious here or was that just a lame attempt at attacking the straw man?

Are you seriously nomenclating yourself a straw man right now? Seriously?
Anyway, I never said you despise me: your spite makes no difference to my existence! Am only saying you and people like you think every religious fellow needs a dose of 'enlightenment' that'll free 'em from their 'mental slavery' and you have the duty to pour this dose down every available throat, but you know what, if Christ is slavery, then I'd choose Him every day over the freedom of philosophy! I studied philosophy in OAU and if that is my emancipation, then I want to increase the bounds that seals me into Christ! Kapische??

post=80972483:
To a New and better Nigeria we go.

No more impunity in our nation.

Stealing is NOW Corruption.

God bless Nigeria.

Last I heard, selling vulture meat suya is corruption too!

Weeellll!!!

iRyan:
Didn't he send Jonah to go convert them? Anyways that's not the point of my argument. My argument is that any deity whether Jesus or Zeus cannot exist without people believing in them. if you doubt what I am saying, go and study history and you'd understand what I am saying better. Humans have existed on this planet for thousands of years without any documentation of anybody named Jesus or Yaweh appearing in the sky and calling his people to repentance. The truth is deities dont go spreading their gospel themselves because they only exist with their followers. Yaweh cant show up in Sentinelese man's dream neither can Allah or Sango or Amadioha. They only show up the moment he starts believing in any one of them. Yaweh wants his followers to tell the world about him. Allah wants the same thing. What is keeping them from doing it themselves. Are they afraid of humans?
Greek mythologies weren't mythologies when they were first espoused by Greeks - they were real - at least to those that actually believed in them. I believe Christianity and other world religions will die a natural death and their deities will be seen as nothing more than mythologies in millenniums to come.

Am sure atheism won't show up to the sentinelese either and they'll go on believing in whatever they already do Mr Anthropologist/philosopher! Anyway, while the mythology as you choose to call it lives on, we who find fulfilment in it will believe it. And I give you a challenge, if you are a real atheist and not one of those fools who practice African religions under the guise of being scientists, why dont you at least try a bit of religion, Pentecostalism for instance, stay in it for at least a year. Listen to messages with an open mind with the goal of understanding the 'delusion' of its followers at least and find out for yourself instead of following the Marx's and Kant's of this world who by the way propounded theories that were proved to be impracticable at the end of the day!

iRyan:
I dont think you peopel are even understanding my point. Does he have to be preached to before he accepts Christ? Did he not know of Christ even before he become an apostle?
what i am saying do you know anyone who became a christian despite growing up in a society that has never ever heard of Christ? Answer this question sincerely

I don't, just like am sure you also dont know anyone who became an atheist without having come into contact with some foreign atheist or the other. We find peace wherever we can friend, and as an adult, I found mine in Christ! Find yours wherever you can and dont despise me for mine just like am not despising you for yours!

JastSiryin:
Bitter? No Distressed? Yes. Beacuse I can clearly see a big problem when I multiply your kind by the millions. No one ever sees your "glory" or effect, you're only just concerned about having the most "popular" belief just like every other religious folk. People like you are just ordinary in every sense of the word but like to think they're special.

Three questions
1. Would you rather multiply shekau and bin Laden's type by millions?
2. When has any Christian ever indicated his desire to battle statistics with other religions??
3. Are you actually distressed to see that most of your freethinker rolemodels eg sia, kanye, minaj, lil Wayne etc actually profess Christ?

Am almost sorry for you!

JastSiryin:
Oga pls shut up abeg. Nobody sent you all this ones. Him never use him mouth take comfirm am yet you don already dey famz. Keep your convictions to yourself, you're just coming off as being fanatical and pesky other than sensible. Na for all these ones dem dey see una mtcheew!

Am sure you are deeply pained to suddenly discover that those American artistes who you used to see as the frontrunners of freethinking are finding peace in Jesus whom you hate as the embodiment of everything you hate, as a white man's invention (even though it was about a hundred years after his death before any white man ever heard about him preached!), and as one not ever to be considered in order to be a freethinker! If this were about islam, Muslims would have encouraged you to keep hating, but as christians, we can only encourage you to try this peace that Nicki minaj is talking about!

iRyan:
I disagree. Societal programming and upbringing has everything to do with his conviction. Had he been born into a different culture where Jesus isnt preached the story would be different.
Early men lived for thousands of years without your father arresting anyone of them. Before Christianity, our ancestors weren't getting arrested. Why? Jesus wasn't existing in their realities. The Sentinelese people too have never been arrested. So it seems your father only arrests people that grew up in societies where hes known. doesn't that tell you something?

A Sentinelese man will never wake up from sleep to tell his people that a man named Jesus appeared to him in his dream. however bring him into civilization, he may start to have visions or dreams of Jesus or Allah.
its all in our minds. we are the ones creating our realities ourselves but sadly most of our realities were created for us by our parents and the society

Christ was not preached to Apostle Paul either yet he became one of the greatest ever leaders of the church. In fact, he was like the Jewish jihadist, a Jewish Osama when he was converted! And before you say we have the same religion cause we use the same old testament, pls attempt to read the book of acts, after all a rational atheist got to know why he refuses what he refuses!

kareemkamil:
What is bon again Christian, Christian sabi deceiving there self, una go all routine in hell fire.

You mean the way your leader upon whom y'all wish peace currently is, because why wish peace for someone who came to show the way to peace??

Yeah, this is what I call an edifying message. The Word of Christ is truth because they are the Word of God; the divine purpose of God revealed by the appearing of Christ(2 Timothy 1:9-10) and settled in the risen Christ who is Lord of all things to the Church (Ephesians 1 vs 20-23). The Word is Life and Light(John 1 vs 4-5); it is the God ordained means of Life which we receive when we believe with our hearts and confess with our mouth the Lord Jesus Christ (John 3 vs14-18). God bless you bruv. Interesting15 please take note!!

As a Christian, am not and cannot support sin because I have the seed of God in me (1 John 3:8-9), but I am highly concerned by the obsession of this Sunday Akanni Moshood aka Interesting15 with sex, virginity and intact anything sexual. To me, he is a potential sexual offender/rapist if he is not already one. His Christian dissertations-instead of edifying the Body of Christ-tend to scandalize and horrify. One never gets any spiritual benefit except from the quoted Biblical verses! I'll advice him to go and get spirit-filled, as well as get spirit-taught before trying to teach others!

Rekhina:
Am ur goddess worship me ...goddess rekhinatu

In your wet dreams...

What makes me happy is that there is finally going to be major changes in Nigeria. No more Hausa Fulani bullshit! Very interesting days ahead!!!

zeromeridian:
this people have started realising that the only and true ally they have is the SE/SS
God bless Mazi Nnamdi Kanu
very soon Yoruba Christians will realize the truth

We already do, and I'd like to use this medium to apologize to all Igbo's on nairaland who've tasted my derision because of ipob issue, I may not like Mazi Kanu as a person, but nevertheless he was right and is indeed a great man!

Rekhina:
I double dare you harvey go and retrace their statement from their honourable mouths , Na only igala go handle you wella ,Not to talk of honourable lions in Tiv Axis.. one more thing harveyTaraba state is South Not Even Middlebelt

The truth is that even as far back as 2012 when I lived in Abuja, middle belt people hated being referred to as north. How much more now when their ancestral land are being ravaged by the Fulani? The irony is most so called northerners in the army except for the officers are from the middle belt, so if push comes to grind, they may start doing to their officers what hausas did to Igbo officers in 1966!

Rekhina:
allah should guard your mouth as you curse an islamic female sheik wallowing in arab hamlet

I percieve that This Rekhina is neither a woman nor Muslim which is gross!

Deepthoughts:
So you are just supporting the government to proscribing any body just because such body is insistence on a right,why do we have laws n the court then?, this issue of IMN is all just a smoke screen to achieve a hidden pre-planned agenda, which is the desire by the sunni Muslim majority to crush the minority shi'ite in all their territories,the crisis in yemen, Syria n even Iraq all centres around this sectarian Islamic struggle, buhari can decieve the uninformed only,Nnamdi kanu calls for secession was wrong n no government will accept that without a fight, personally I wished kanu had agitated for political n economic restructuring of the country which would have gain more acceptance,at least that was one area the whole of the south n middle belt were on the same page but the opportunity has been lost,if the government wish to proscribe any body,the government should go to court n state her reasons n let the court allow such body to defend herself,were such body refuses or failed the court can then pass her judgement,what is happening now is very questionable n dubious, buhari has succeeded in pocketing all the arms of government n using them in pursuing his assume self righteous agenda but this is very dangerous fort the country going forward.

Bros, I respect your insight. You got it all perfectly right. What Nigeria needs is restructuring and I believe the current herdsmen crises is finally opening our eyes to this truth.

azikiweironsi:
Just shut it. Don't you have elders in your house?
People like you would be the first person to rush to the social media again to begin to count how many terrorist groups you have in Nigeria just as you're doing now.

This your question is wrong. You should have asked him if he has stupid elders in his house because modernization has made it obvious that there are stupid and wise elders!

Biritiko:
Ok, Akpu warrior

Yeah, and soon to be northern women refugee score! I solemnly promise to whip the living daylights out of their refugee asses! Pls DM me to secure placement for your sisters as a nairaland favor!

MrHeff:
abi ode leleyi. Shey mo jo awon omo akotileta ni iwaju e? Ododo oro ni mo so fun e pe agbara buratai ko le ka terrorist group meji, ko tumo si pe eyan je awon ajokuta ma mu omi.

bros, una won kill person with laughter for here, kilode? Una don vex reach peak!

wis3:
shiite sympathzers criticizing the FG can accomodate zakzaky's followers. We don't want them in the north.

No, we southerners would rather accommodate your women only in the coming ISWAP vs boko haram vs Shiite vs foreign bandits vs maybe al shabaab multiple jihads that'll rock the north very soon. Since you northerners love jihads, you can expect Fulani herdsmen who we'll chase back to the north after we deamalgamate Nigeria once the jihads start. I'll advice southern men to sharpen up on their sexual quotient and their border protection skills ahead of that time!

wordcat:
Peace peace peace Nigeria always want peace and peace is always far from Nigeria.

Why
Because there's no justice

No, its because we already have the religion of peace, so we can't expect more peace!

fiizznation:
Sorry but please who are the 'Sunnis' ?

The sect our beloved president, his herdsmen, ISWAP, and al Qaeda belong to!

jcmaiah:
Good development. When time comes IPOB and Shi'ite collabo will be inevitable. Then FG will see real terror

Let them not collaboration abeg. Let Shiites cause the northern downfall, the south can take care of itself.

Biritiko:
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What you don’t understand is that the armed forces have been restraining from attacking these guys because they see them as civilians.
But now that they have the “terrorist” tag .
Dem go hear am from Buratai boys .
So, continue blabbing all over the place with your nonsense rants.
It shall never be well with all the terrorists and their sympathisers

I hope you have beautiful sisters if you are a northerner, because only beautiful northerners will be allowed into the south when the multiple jihad groups (ISWAP, boko, Fulani and Shi'a) are fighting for territory in the north and the south is gone. We southerners will enjoy more variety of what we already enjoy in fura de nunu and groundnut sellers. We look forward patiently to the northern doomsday which we are grateful that PMB is helping to bring to reality!

Uteghe:
Why did FG wait this long? BTW,I keep wondering why the Shiites treatment was not meted IPOB. FG destroyed Shiites base but left IPOB's headquarters in Afara standing.

Your irrationality is legendary, I would have said stupidity but we are not allowed to call names on nairaland. To me sha, let Iran quickly supply these people with weapons so that the north can become much more interesting and have a Syria like environment, while we select the most exotic of their women as refugees in the south after we break off. We will then chase the Fulani back into the north, making four terrorist groups; ISWAP, boko haram, Fulani and Shi'a. They think jihad is the way abi? Let them enjoy multiple jihads at once and taste what Libya is currently feeding. After all they contested against Jonathan's decision to proscribe boko haram as a terrorist group, thereby encouraging terrorism, so let them enjoy greater levels of terrorism, shikena!

GodisGood4321:
Now to a serious matter.

Pls I need a girl for a serious relationship/marriage. 

The girl should be:

Caring, loving and beautiful. 

Contributive and submissive.

From a well to do background.

Not above 31yrs.

Thanks.

Bros, dont go and find something useful to do with your life, be looking for submissive contributor from a rich family upandan. You think girls like that won't have married by age 22 and will not stoop because of desperation at the age of 29, 30 31 in this world where useless slay slaves dey all over the place??

Emrixx:
These people should be proscribed as a terrorist Organization and let the military take care of them

I would have said my mind about your comment, but your dp shows you are actually pretty, not one of those plywood shaped feminists that are trying to take over nairaland. And talking about pretty, pls let's just DM; love not war, comprende??

senatepresido:
Islam is the bane of humanity

I'll be content if its the bane of united Nigeria. Let the Shiites become harmed and go on a rampage, killing and raping and pillaging the north just like the Fulani are trying to do in the south. At that stage, the south can very easily break away, allow the north to enjoy double nay triple trouble(Shiites, boko and foreign bandits) since Muslim states always love a good jihad(ref. Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, etc)! When they've exhausted their men and we have gotten their most delectable women into southern refugee camps and as cheap labour, we southerners can then join an African union army to stabilize things and then take the glory for contributing some money (not too much) for their reconciliation (after their lives have become like Liberia's or south Sudan's)! All in all, give or take ten years, am looking forward to seeing some of those light skinned northern girls doing necessary slavery in the south!!!