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Seelurd:
OtemAtum, abeg mention me on 1st of Jan 2020, so I can ask for this Obaofusa official resignation as a man of god.

How have U been bro

Unfortunately, ObaOfUsa has deactivated his account

Forgive yourself and move on. God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah, Allah, etc. doesn't get offended, is not hurt or emotional concerning what you did or didn't do. Just forgive yourself and move on.

Raalsalghul:
Op, I'm a christian and I must clearly say that guy is not one of us.

It's not in our character to prophesy death to a fellow who doesn't agree with our views.

In as much as I believe in God, I also respect your disbelieve in him.

Apologies Mjbolt on his behalf and have a good day.

Peter prophesied death against Sapphira in the bible. Go and read your bible. It is christianly, I mean very christianly, to prophesy death. Acts 5: 7-10


7 About three hours later his wife came in, not knowing what had happened. 8 Peter asked her, “Tell me, is this the price you and Ananias got for the land?”

“Yes,” she said, “that is the price.”

9 Peter said to her, “How could you conspire to test the Spirit of the Lord? Listen! The feet of the men who buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out also.”

10 At that moment she fell down at his feet and died. Then the young men came in and, finding her dead, carried her out and buried her beside her husband. 11 Great fear seized the whole church and all who heard about these events.

wickedtuna:
Interesting. So if mainstream science refuses to acknowledge the existence of the spirit realm and then here comes another branch of it which acknowledges its existence, that which religion has took a stand for, would you then say science is simply walking in the shadows of religion ?

Science never said that there is no spiritual realm. They only said that there are no available facts for now. Religion just jumble things up and make everything complicated, for example, having thousands of different religions with no specific definition of what the spiritual realm looks like. Only science will eventually get there to give us the exact description, but it is a matter of time.

wickedtuna:
is science then validating the existence of the spiritual realm ?

We now have spirit science, but it's not a mainstream science for now.

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 2 months, 3 weeks and 4 days in his spiritual cage. Religion is losing its grip on humanity.

hefelove:
Lmaoooooooo bro y dont u paste the whole chapter for better understanding instead of just a verse to mislead people

But others are posting single verses and you didn't complain of not understanding o. Anyway, I understand this verse. Jehovah, being thirsty for blood, is commanding infanticides. Jehovah is dull.

efeteb:
What you quoted here is just a punishment for the enemies of Israel like you. Read from Psalm 137vs7 If you don't repent this will be your lot

Are those enemies human beings or animals? Why will God Almighty command such stuffs against humans?

Yahweh is truly stupid for commanding such gruesome acts against fellow humans.

lagoslandlord:
I'm curious to know, how do we authenticate this truth? And how do I get this book?

You'll get a copy of this eBook by December. Mail otem2016@gmail.com

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 2 months, 3 weeks and 3 days in his spiritual cage. Religion is losing its grip on humanity.

DPO2030:
Please my fellow nairalanders, cant we ignore this boy. You people can see that his age is contributing to his behavior.

Hmm. I'm a warner and a threat to the rules of many gods. Just keep your fingers crossed. You'll soon understand better.

CodeTemplar:
Where did I claim or imply that Christians were instructed to be lions to the devil was written in the bible? Please I am waiting.

I thought you guys live by the things written in the bible. Or how else could you know that Christians are supposed to be lions to the devil

Chapter Sixteen
1. Jean Buridan was a philosopher born in the 281,300th year of the homo sapiens era, which is also called the 1300 C.E. Now Buridan was of French origin.
2. Now when Buridan began to be exposed to knowledge, he loved the works of Aristotle so much. And he studied his work largely. He also loved the use of logic rather than religious assumptions and conclusions.
3. In those days, Buridan loved one of the statements of Aristotle which he made concerning the assertions of the sophists that the earth was stationary.
4. In the days of Aristotle, the sophists had said that the earth, being a sphere, must be stationary object, since all forces acting on it in all directions must be equal. Then Aristotle had said, this assumption is as stupid as saying that a man, being hungry and equally thirsty and then put in between food and drink, will remain where he is and starve to death.
5. Now Buridan had suggested that a man, being faced with two equal choice to make, will rather not make any and wait until circumstances had changed to favour one choice above the other.
6. Now the analogy which Buridan made, using the idea of Aristotle was called the Buridan's ass till these days and it was applied to rational decision-making among many philosophers.
7. Now there were pressure from all sides that Buridan should join a religious order, for this is the only way that could pave way for a scholar to achieve his goals. Now when Buridan had considered all the religious orders of those days, he did not agree to joining any of them.
8. Now Buridan had pursued a doctorate degree in Medicine, but he was denied, because he did not affiliate himself to any religious order. Then he was considered a non-philosopher or a pseudo-philosopher by his contemporaries because he had no doctorate degree.
9. Now Buridan said, I had rather sacrifice my academic degree for peace of mind and inner happiness.
10. For how can I pretend to believe in a religion when I know that it is not the truth of life?
11. I wonder how people could perform religious functions when they know at the back of their minds that what they are performing is not the truth of life.
12. For many scientists and philosophers these days are forced to make a religious choice against their own happiness and satisfaction.
13. But as for me, whatever is true and unsuspicious, that will I go for and make myself happy in such.
14. So Buridan refused to be affiliated with any religion, an act which was uncommon among the people in those days.
15. I do not practice religion because it works based on the principle of faith rather than logic. But the principle of true philosophy is logic and that will I follow.
16. Now many groups intimidated Buridan, asking that he considered studying theology for his own good, but he refused to heed their advice's.
17. Now when Clement the pope had called Buridan to his court, he said, O Buridan, tell me, why are you silent about the issue of religion?
18. You have neither made any public utterance about religion nor make any work on it. This is a rare case, for all philosophers dabble into religion also.
19. Now Buridan said, O great one, religion does not work based on the principle of logic and common sense. So I do not have any business discussing it.
20. They are claims which no man can make formulas out of. They are neither general nor uniform. They are neither measurable nor quantifiable.
21. Therefore I have no tool for which I can measure religion or prove its truth.
22. Now the pope said, your words strike me hard like a man being hit on the head with a shoe in his own house.
23. For how could you come to my court and say that religion cannot be quantified or measured?
24. Now I will offer you as an exchange for a favour from the king who has demanded a wise slave from me. Therefore, I shall offer you as such, for you have struck me too hard on the head that I cannot but let you get punished.
25. So Buridan was offered to the king of France named Jean, who was his namesake.
26. Now King Jean took in Buridan and made him his personal advisor, because he did not want anyone to know whom his advisor was, being the reason why he had asked the pope for a wise slave.
27. Now when Jean had interacted with Buridan, he knew that he was wiser than he had supposed. Then he said, why did the pope offer you as a slave to me?
28. Then Buridan said, I was brought to you because I do not engage in religion. I am just into the art of philosophy without any form of theology.
29. Now Jean said, even I am tired of religion, for it offers no answers or solutions to current issues.
30. For the death of my wife seven years ago through that disease called Black Death, has made me to question religion myself.
31. For I prayed hard to Jehovah my god to save her life, but she died, leaving me devastated.
32. Now Buridan, your coming into my court has brought me relief, for I have seen someone like myself who does not rely on religion to live his life.
33. Now Buridan lived silently in the court of the king. And a time came that the pope went to visit the king, saying, he whom I offered to you few years back, what has become of him?
34. Then Jean said, I have drowned him in a sea because he had a secret affair with one of my concubines.
35. Now Buridan remained in the court of the king, philosophising for him for the rest of his life.

Freeze007:
May I indulge you here, WAS THERE NO CHRIST in ACTUAL EXISTENCE

Thanks in advance!

The truth is bitter to swallow, otherwise it's not the truth. Christ as an actual entity does not exist, it christ as an idea exists?

gensteejay:
Kudos to you, Otem. Waiting for more updates.

Thanks

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 2 months, 3 weeks and 1 day in his spiritual cage. Religion is losing its grip on humanity.

CodeTemplar:
By being wise and not by rebellion to God. Also by testing every spirit. Also by asking God for direction. Also by the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Okay, but you haven't told me where in the bible christians were instructed to be a lion to the devil.

Fake tory

CodeTemplar:
The analogy of sheep and shepherd was used for Christians and Christ to indicate a submissive relationship and one of followership under the authority of Jesus. Same bible also uses analogy of Lion for Jesus and as followers/brethren/heirs/part of Jesus, there are situations where we need to act as lion. You don't say because Jesus is the shepherd and believers are sheep, believers should also act as sheep to devils. No. You act as a lion to the devil.

Where in the bible did it instruct Christians to act as lions to the devil? And how exactly should christians act to fake pastors everywhere?

I have brought the truth of the universe with me. Learn the truth and be free from mind slavery.

CodeTemplar:
POC, muslims burn bible but Christians don't have time for the reverse.

Christians don't have that in their religion, that's why they don't do that. Muslims are supposed to be violent like wolves, according to their religious tenets, but christians are supposed to be gullible and sheepish like sheep, according to their religious tenets.

CodeTemplar:
I heard there are muslims whose Jihad roles involves laying their hands on as many bible copy they can and burning it.

Well if you know any such group, kindly link me to them on a business level so I can be supplying them bibles at a good rate.

That's my support to their jihad against Christians.

Chai. See business o!
Anyway, I don't know any of them. And what's my business with two religious people burning their own books? Both Allah and Jehovah are currently in a spiritual cage and nothing can be done about the violence of their followers. But all these are pointers to the fact that religion is gradually losing its relevance, according to the will of nature.

Jehovah has spent 3 years, 2 months and 3 weeks in his spiritual cage. Religion is losing its grip on humanity.

searchng4love:
The logos burneth he...not the Rhema.

Both the logos and the rhemas are useless, especially in this our period of full enlightenment when Jehovah its god is currently subjected to his spiritual cage.

Chapter Eight
1. Averroes was a great philosopher born in Cordoba in Spain, in the year 281,126 of the homo sapiens era, which is the year 1126C.E.
2. Now in the days of Averroes, the works of Al-Ghazalli, a critic of pure philosophy prevailed in the Muslim communities.
3. Now Al-Ghazalli, who died only fifteen years before the birth of Averroes was a critic of pure philosophy. Rather, he supported Islamic philosophy which he found as the only true philosophy.
4. But Averroes, before acceding to the seat of the judge of Cordoba, had studied many philosophies and had found the works of Aristotle as the only one matching his own thoughts and philosophies.
5. For when Averroes had checked through the Quran and other Islamic texts privately, he found them lacking in morals, ethics and humanities.
6. And Averroes wrote some points against the Islamic philosophy in his papers, saying, why should the maker of the earth command jihad against other believers? Why should Mohammed the founder of Islam take a little girl and deflower her, then making her his wife against her wish?
7. Why should the creator of the earth be so like humans in reasonings and ability? Why is the quran not extraordinarily better than other philosophical books if it is actually written by God Almighty?
8. Why does Allah not address this issue of slavery which is at this moment seen as brutal and cruel by many wise ones, even among those whom we term kaffir?
9. Now after Averroes had written these texts, he kept them secret and resolved to follow and promote the teachings of Aristotle rather than the philosophies of Mohammed the founder of Islam.
10. Now Averroes attempted to bring philosophical reasonings to Islam, for he wanted his people to reason things out rather than foolishly following all the texts of Islam.
11. Now Averroes stood among the people and said, I am not against Islam, but I am against lack of reasoning by Islamic scholars.
12. Let all scholars of Islam be reasonable enough to be rational in their thoughts and let every unreasonable stories in the quran be rather treated as allegories.
13. I say this because the quran seem to have been corrupted, having passed from the hands of one caliph to another. From the hands of Abu Bakr to another and to the hands of Uthman and others after them.
14. And many unreasonable things had entered the quran by such.
15. Now the scholars in the school of Ashari attacked all forms of philosophies, saying that it is only the Islam philosophy that was right.
16. And they spoke against Averroes for trying to promote western philosophies and the ancient philosophies above Islamic philosophies
17. Then Averroes said, before quran was made, these philosophies had been made. How can you criticise them all and give credence to only the Islamic philosophies?
18. If we Muslims do not learn to recognise wisdom in other philosophies, we shall eventually end up not being wise enough to grow in knowledge with the rest of the world.
19. And we shall be held back by our own rituals and superstitions. It is simple enough to discard whatever islamic idea which do not resonate with logical reasonings.
20. But you followers of Al-Ghazali have refused to see reasons in other philosophies, how then shall you grow intellectually?
21. What does Al-Ghazali your role model hold against philosophers other than the fact that they are not Muslims?
22. Can we say that Aristotle, Socrates and many other great philosophers of old times are entirely false because they do not hold the belief of Islam?
23. This is of course foolishness, because Islam is not the only religion in the world, therefore its knowledge does not necessarily have to be generally accepted.
24. Now it is better that we recheck and modify the works of the quran whenever it seems that philosophical conclusions are in contradictions with them.
25. And also for the Christians, let them recheck and modify the works of the bible whenever they appear to contradict the conclusions reached by philosophers.
25. Now these sayings of Averroes angered and provoked both the Muslims and the Christians in many parts of the world.
26. And they had grudges with Averroes, thinking to lay their hands on him. But for the high position of Averroes, being a judge, it seemed difficult for them.
27. Now when Averroes had seen how the religious people reacted, he said further, philosophy is the best method of passing knowledge and understanding and not religion.
28. For philosophy creates room for questions and give possible answers after series of practicals, but religion only creates room for questions and does not have an answer to give, but jumps to conclusion instead.
29. Now around that time, Abu Yakub the caliph died and Abu Yusuf his son became the caliph. Now Abu Yakub the late caliph had believed very much in all the sayings of Averroes, which was the reason Averroes had been protected from attack earlier.
30. But Abu Yusuf his son surrendered to the pressures of different cabals to release Averroes to them to be tried, therefore he released him to his various accusers to be tried.
31. Then Averroes was tried and exiled to Lucena. They burnt all his works concerning Aristotle and other philosophers.
32. Now Averroes continued to philosophise in Lucena. Then a day came when Abu Yusuf disguised and went to see him.
33. Then he said, do not be afraid Ibn Rushd. I have come to restore you back to my court, because now I am strong enough.
34. My father had said before his death, Yusuf my son, do not let Averroes the qadi get hurt. Rather, reward him and learn from his wisdom. For he is a wise man with many secrets.
35. Now I have come to you to learn some secrets which are unspeakable.
36. Now Averroes said, for secrets I have many. For I have met the light and I have known what is true from what is ideated.
37. And I can say to you with authority that religion is ideated and natural knowledge are true. We cannot say it publicly now, but a time will come when it would be made public.
38. And what we see as God Almighty now shall be seen as even a little dot or a speck out of the unlimited magnificence of God Almighty.
39. But can we declare it now and go scot-free? No caliph, for the time to say it is not now.
40. So Abu Yusuf sent Averroes to Marrakesh and honoured him. Now Averroes died when he was 72 years old and was buried honorably.
41. Now till these days, many philosophers admired Averroes for appreciating philosophy and putting it ahead of even Islam in religion without having the fear of being killed by the violent ones in Islam.

Pivadra 7:21-22

21. Let them also see Jesus and his teachings as allegories now, for that is exactly what they are. For we know that there is no one who literally died for the sins of the whole world, but we have only the allegories which speak concerning the wishes of the minds of many people to see sin come to an end in the world.
22. Science is true knowledge, but religion is an ideated knowledge. So it is best to teach religion and the christian knowledge as an idealogy rather than as fact.

jom28gy:
how do you view the happens in the world, and the likely solution to how things are going negatively?

The happenings in the world are meant to be both negative and positive. You've got to do your positive stuffs to balance up the negative ones. Happenings on earth as a whole has never been better or worse than what you're seeing presently and it well never be better or worse in the future. We just have to live our own lives happily, fulfill our mission and move on to the next reality of life.

ikechukwu21:
Until the day you can comfortably tell me how bones are formed in the belly of a woman with child or the mechanisms that were involved in your own growth from a baby until adult good, then I'd take it that you're too small to be holding a phone talk more about typing this trash here. Until you know how things work, it wud be nice for you to shut up. Thanks

One thing you don't know is that biology is a part of God Almighty and God Almighty, the creator of Jehovah your god made materials from tepexes. Even Jehovah your god was formed by tepexes. Go and read the book of Universal History to see how Jehovah your god and many other gods of religion discovered that they were all made from tepexes, which is the origin of humanlike and organic materials.


MCC 1:1-6, 14
1. God, formless, nameless, shapeless, limitless, is a great source of energy.
2. the energy of God is not created and no one can destroy it.
3. It is there when nothing else exists.
4. It occupied no space, for space did not exist.
5. This great ENERGY by the great force in itself disintegrated into space and time and into everything that is in existence, but only one of their kinds. And there existed a space which is unlimited. And an unlimited spectra was formed. And this is called time.
6. And there was light, darkness, water, tepex, an element, an image as of a giant Homo, an image as of a great animal, an image as of a star, an image as of a sphere, an image as of a great tree and many other things, all being single.


Also try to read MCC 1:14 on how Jehovah your god was created:


MCC 1: 14
14 . Now the names of some of these beings (created by God Almighty) are Knoliud, Miklas, Urim, Chimides, Chaleb, Eartum who is also called Atum, Largas, who is also called Allah, ..., Yahweh, Wanyioyi,... Abassi, Nzame, Nyame;