Kaycee7:
Well well, we've got a serious customer here. Make I go our other shop go find better products 😁

Lol, I dey wait

OhBritannia:

There is this new show that just came out, it's called Agatha all along.
It's a magical witch series but only episodes 1 and 2 are out.
The series is the bomb.

If na MCU or DCU matter, count me out. No b only dem get d industry

Kaycee7:

- Carnival Row
- Tokyo Vice
- Mad Men
- Yellowstone
- Scavengers Reign

Thanks man, I've seen them all except scavengers reign and they all have strong fan following

Dem go come for me now but abeg shey una dey watch anything other than gbas gbos or shows without a huge following wey no b gbas gbos? Abeg if you know, list dem down..... anything apart from romcom without a huge following, the intimidation don too much over d last 8-9 pages

abduleez1:
Which kind nonsense play be dis??

Zendaya as Cleopatra?? Kukuma give us Gal Gadot. 😭😭

One of this project is gonna be cancelled and my bet is on Cleopatra

WriterNig:
🎥 The Killer (2024) = 3/10 ❌

Feminism is a mental illness, a disease 🤮

I'm really curious as to what you would have rated Xena or Salt if they were released today

NaijaMemes:



When faced with original ideas in movies, the same people will call it boring. Most original ideas now do better in series because of more time to do world-building.

How many Nigerians went to watch bladerunner and its sequel? Even when inception came out, I watched it in the UK and came to Nigeria. It was as if I was talking gibberish when I was hailing the movie- until six months to a year later when shalaye masters went to download it.


As new technology comes out, there will be more original ideas but they will be chased cautiously. No investor/producer/director wants a box office failure.

If a movie fails, these same shalaye masters will come and be laughing at the movie. Can you imagine the basterds? That same shalaye goat that is asking for original ideas was hyping Barbie non-stop while not realising that the Barbie movie was not an original idea (as it is not the first Barbie movie).

Say it louder. About 60-70% of movies with new stories flopped last year compared to existing IPs that were moderately successful, I was so mad when one of my favorites , The creator didn't even score but we swear we want new stories. Why won't Disney release toy story 100 or DreamWorks release Shrek 8 when audiences are flocking to go see those compared to "new stories"? Hollywood is barely scraping by even with existing IPs, investors are playing it safe with their money because d economy sef dey nack dem for head

oyaskii:


True...True...

Indie filmmakers used to have stories closer to almost 100% originality far from the madness of blockbusters but the allure has always been low, because at the end of the day, they still use money to produce and not getting that investment back is bad business.

A24 used to be a haven for indie filmmakers, but even they are moving away from making many arthouse flicks, in favor of commercial flicks, just to stay in business.

Even the streaming/VOD pipeline seemed like a huge break for arthouse flicks but blockbusters are running away from long cinematic runs, and releasing earlier on streaming platforms and competing with them.

The biggest film playing right now is Alien Romulus, this film has been going on since the 70s, meaning they have been recycling it for 45 years!, this year alone, we have had a Kong movie, a Kung Fu panda flick, A Ghost busters flick, A mad max flick etc...zero new ideas, just throw in some woke nonsense and agenda, and call it a day. Some of these franchises should have been retired by now. I know the aim for these prod companies is to make money and nostalgic bait is a safe net for them, but i totally detest the state of movies now.

I feel your pain but Hollywood aren't the only ones to blame when the audience aren't there to holly up their wood especially when new stories are released.

It was when A24 started slightly shifting gears that I knew sh1t has hit the fan because frankly they weren't making any money. It's sad to watch art be devoured by corporate greed but it's still a business in a capitalist world at the end of the day

oyaskii:


Hence my last paragraph. Thousands of idea have existed that it has become so difficult to flesh out an entirely new one, but there is a way to creatively "rebrand" existing ideas to make them somewhat new.


However, like you have alluded, these writers would rather play safe and dance around the same idea for ages, leading to more garbage media out these days than actual good ones.

I mean, our imagination are literally limitless, it can't be that hard.

Yep, you are right....... it's not that hard but it's not called the movie Business for nothing and new stories are always out but they don't take the spotlight the way existing IPs do. Audiences scream and beg for new stories but tends to disappear immediately they are out and the movie flops, the director pays for it in director jail. how on earth is this motivating for filmmakers?

Raalsalghul:


Just what I thought when I saw the film yesternight.

Infact, it's this movie that will make me go see The Talented Mr Ripley.

I said this months before the movie came out, it was definitely inspired by "The talented Mr Ripley" or like I said, it's "The talented Mr Ripley" of this generation. Instead of watching that, watch Netflix's Ripley instead, it's really good and much more closer to the books as it wasn't rushed like the movie

NaijaMemes:



I just checked. Between wolf of Wall Street and Suicide Squad, she was in many flops. Interesting.....her career was not as straightforward as many think it is

Madam was almost close to being called a box office poison which is unfair because she works extremely hard but it is what it is

Kaycee7:
The season 2 finale would have made a fantastic season 4 or season 5 finale if they'd been allowed to fully flesh out that plotline.

Exactly, infact most episodes in season 2 could've been fleshed out into different seasons. It's giving me sense8 all over again. It's funny how both series tackle almost the same subject matter then just fall off after their second season due to cancellation

Illusioneffect:

You must be a fan of Andrew tate

Wait a minute!!!! Did you like the show because I will be shocked if you did?

Pantheon S1-S2

AMC's first foray into 2D animation had a beautiful premise that gave room for conversations and debates about humanity and it's experience, I'm shocked it slipped right under me because shows like these are my jam but as usual everything changed when capitalism sneered it's head.

The story needed at least a 5 season arc to breathe but it was cancelled after the first hence why the writers crammed all the plot points in the miraculous second season, it was rushed in a manner that the writers didn't even care about plot holes anymore but at least it was given a solid end despite being a flaky story

I'm not even an anime fan but the way lot of y'all downgrade anime in this forum just to uplift western entertainment is really ironic because it's something that I see more and more of in this thread. Even the west are trading those their own shows for those "anime" that you see as less than, just check the viewership and it's demographic. There's space for all forms of media entertainment to thrive including shows from free streaming services like YouTube. How will you know when you hit a diamond in the rough if you don't explore other varieties of entertainment?

Baddestguyp don collect insults upon insults and for what? For sharing shows that he likes just because it's a different art form or language? Make una dey check una casual racism steeped in white supremacy. If it's not from the west, then it's useless to most of y'all

NaijaMemes:






Yet another example of "hyping the hype" shalaye.

Twisters 2024 is not exactly a financial success. Twisters needed to make a minimum of $400 million. It made only $338 million, approximately.

Twisters was only a hit in America. Globally, it didnt make up to $100 million.

Typical shalaye masters of Nairaland will be hyping a movie because many websites are hyping it.

Lol, na everybody be man/woman of the hour for abduleez1 eyes even when Margot Robbie was having flops back to back before Barbie saved her from being labelled "box office poison", she was still woman of the hour. It's really funny how people think "starpower" in this day and age is working when most of the time, the marketing is the main star

Illusioneffect:

It isn't a political lane - but the showrunner said it himself it was meant to annoy right wing voters🤷🏽‍♂️ so bro chose being political over actual story😂 - glad it worked for him

The show was meant to piss off right wingers since season 1, if they even followed the comics, it would've been worse and every show or movie have a political edge to it, it's much more blatant now because of the cultural divide and how politics run our lives. The reason I don't like to bring it to the subject because it muddles up the Convo and it's sort of hypocritical saying "no political messaging in art" when that itself is a form of political messaging

Illusioneffect:

It's not, through mass hysteria on rotten tomatoes and X, there have been different clips on the Boys choosing gore and offending right wingers over substance and story - if millions of folks tell me not to watch something THAT I'VE ALREADY PREDICTED WOULD BE ASS! why would I need to watch it and waste 7 + hours when I could be watching something else 🤷🏽‍♂️

I knew it, I knew this story was taking a political lane and that was what I was trying to avoid but that tells me all I need to know. Again, comparing apples to oranges....... watching clips to watching the entire series is a flawed argument but ok

Illusioneffect:
I sincerely don't know anything about that 🤷🏽‍♂️ and can't comment on it. As a cinema goer, I still rely on movie critics to watch a movie- I can always tell when there's personal bias towards a film- like alien: romulus- critical drinker slightly hated the movie but I still went to watch it🤷🏽‍♂️ and it was my thing - he never said don't watch this film

Ok, good for you

NaijaMemes:


The Drinker is quite funny at times when he bashes Disney.

I confess that I still watch him for laughs. But for serious critiques or critics, I watch the following-

1. Heavy Spoilers
2. Brain plot

I literally said the same thing, he does have some valid criticisms when he talks about movies and "the message" but overall, he's a "hell nah" for me

NaijaMemes:
Ah. The Critical Drinker debate!!

The guy has some good points about the wokeness of Hollywood. However, he can be wildly biased. If I want to laugh at Disney or a woke film, I will watch his reviews. Outside that he has a lot of trash opinions.

I remember his foolish take on the first black panther movie.....

Like it's getting redundant at this point because I don't even listen to critics in the first place and if I did, drinker will be the last one

Illusioneffect:

It is totally possible to criticise something you haven't seen. It's like saying 'I can't criticise Cuties because I haven't seen it, that's bollocks to me! You don't have to watch child porn before you criticise it. If people had told him already what's going on in the show, he has every right to criticise without watching

Ok buddy, I'm so over this topic because I told you from the very beginning, I don't like or listen to critics so I don't see the need for these back and forth banter and seriously your comparison with cuties is dumb (sorry not sorry), we literally had a visual poster for cuties that kept everyone in an uproar whereas the boys had just a trailer and nothing so again, comparing apples to oranges

Illusioneffect:
You are the one handpicking my points 😂
I watch his podcasts and his after hours sometimes and I don't need to watch every of his video to make my point. Bashing a series doesn't mean he hates it. He could say he hates a particular part of the series but he never said the series was bad overall

So you are gonna skip over the manipulation of.......you know what? Nevermind, let's just agree to disagree

Illusioneffect:

This is not true. I even believe he's more authentic than most movie critics because you already know what to get from his reviews. Take a look at HoTD - he made a video before it premiered that it had the potential to suck! but after watching the first season, he changed his mind- also, he has been a hater of Disney star wars projects and Disney overall- it'll do him well if he bashed every Disney and Star Wars project that comes out but he never does - he gave a good review for shows like Andor, Mandalorian s1 and S2, which to everyone's POV were good shows, even Disney movies like Deadpool and Wolverine and others - he wasn't bias🤷🏽‍♂️ unlike some reviewers like Reel Rejects and Cinepals who watched the Acolyte in pain and never gave a bad review even tho it showed in their edit and face that it was bad because they didn't want to offend the overlords. He has always kept it real🤷🏽‍♂️ - to himself.

I guess you didn't bother to check out the other examples I gave of his shadiness but I digress. Even if you are right about HOTD which you aren't but you may not know that because many of his fans don't watch his drinkers after or whatever it's called podcast, he bashed the series there again with his buddies. The others examples I gave have already labelled him as one who has bias because there's no way I'm trusting him to properly review a movie after his manipulation of movie scenes to bring in comments, that alone has already ruined any credibility that he has as a critic

Illusioneffect:
In terms of the boys - he has already said right from s3 - he won't be watching the boys s4 - the video wasn't a review of the boys s4 - it was just a discussion about its merit and counterpoints, he never said it was a review

A discussion about the merits and counterpoints for a season you haven't seen is wild

Illusioneffect:

You’re definitely right - in a sense.
Unfortunately, farming for views is what almost every YouTuber does - he's no different - movie YouTubers pick the most talked about topic and form their own opinion about it - that is his job! What makes him different is because he talks about not only movies and pop culture relevant topics on movies but trailers too- even Jeremy Jahns does that sometimes🤷🏽‍♂️ you say all this like he only talks negative about movies which is totally false! He has said multiple times that Hollywood hasn't been making good movies and he makes videos of how dumb some movies are - and he's not wrong- he has his style of reviewing movies and that's not wrong - he doesn't need to change his style because people say he's rage-baiting since it works for him. He never said you shouldn't form your own opinion- it's still his opinion and you're free to use the information you got anyway you want.

Of course that's the job of every YouTuber, they are selling a product but you do it in an authentic way. I have said he does give valid criticisms but as a critic, you should be neutral which he's far from because he knows his audience and he knows what they want to hear especially if such movies are used as ammunitions for the culture war, he doesn't even have to watch it like he did with the new season of the boys, he just joins the internet bandwagon to bash something he hasn't even seen or goes as far to manipulate the movie scenes so as to make the writer's job look incompetent as in the case of glass onion, now anyone who looked at his review won't even bother to watch that movie not knowing "drinker" manipulated the scenes to make the movie look stupid in the review...... Now is that a movie critic to you or someone who just wants to give his audience what they crave? Something to talk crap about

Illusioneffect:
If you really think YouTubers don't have a bias when forming an opinion about movies- you're totally wrong- some Movie critics hate a movie just because of a subject matter being discussed - like Sound of Freedom that was bombed with bad reviews from critics just because they don't like the guy in the movie and subject matter. Drinker has his personal bias - of course! But don't think every other critic doesn't. It doesn't make him different

Hence why I say I don't listen to movie critics, if I did, I would've ignored the "saw" franchise and trade that for the "twilight" franchise instead. We are humans and as a result are emotional so I expect the same thing from critics when they are judging a movie but some tend to fair despite their emotions, drinker on the other hand isn't, he has an audience and he knows what they want to hear

Illusioneffect:
T
How do you know he’s a rage-baiter if you don’t watch his videos 👀

I did use to watch his videos just to laugh at how he criticizes them, he does have some valid criticisms that makes sense compared to nerdrotic who I don't even want to get into but there are some that will tell you he's just farming for views and they are all filled with recipes of rage-bait from manipulation of movie scenes to fit his narrative like he did with glass onion to him choosing specific blockbusters or trending movies to discuss on which are mostly Disney content because hating on Disney gives you views now to his personal biases on the culture war and how it impacts movies forgetting we've gone down this route before. Don't even get me started on him criticizing movies that haven't been made yet or the ones whose trailer have been released like he did with prey (he had to release another video to say he was wrong only to criticize the movie again in his "drinkers after hours" video cast with his "team". How about how he also doesn't understand some movie or series scenes? the way he analyzes scenes in his "after hours" podcast is just steeped in his personal bias and somewhat dumb that he misses certain plot points as we see in the case of his "the last of us" and "one piece" reviews not to even talk about him screaming about movies and "the message" which is a good thing but he's so against the message that he's beginning to turn into what he actually hates because a movie didn't appeal to his own message. What's even more laughable is that he reviews movies that he didn't even see like his review of the new season of the boys had me gagging, a season he specifically said he didn't even watch, even his own audience trolled him in the comments

There are lots of examples that I can give but don't want to derail this thread any further, I don't listen to movie reviews especially the ones on YouTube because most are a cesspool for toxicity, I watch and I form my own opinion

kendrick9:
Yeah but I think She delivered her best acting performance deserving of an Oscar nomination in A simple Favor.
That's easily her best I have seen so far anyway.
Good movie too... A sequel is coming out next year.

A simple favor was basically "gone girl" if she had a frenemy, It was a solid performance. I personally don't like Blake but even I won't lie she wasn't good in it, it's her second best performance after gossip girl, it's the only movie with her as the lead that I can't wait for the sequel

The inheritance

A completely obvious knock-off of Ready or not but I'm not mad, it's pretty decent but doesn't beat Bruges previous horror com "Juan of the dead"

Illusioneffect:

Because someone speaks his mind on a particular topic- in an entertaining and hyperbolic m way doesn’t make him a rage baiter - not everyone is Stuckmann

His delivery is hyperbolic especially when he first started but his commentary isn't and like I said he's a ragebaiter because that's what gives him views. Moreover, I don't even listen to stuckmann or any other movie critic, I'd rather watch a movie and form my own opinion

pu7pl3:


Many couples will take their spouse's side in public and criticise them privately

Sure but from the looks of things, they both stirred the pot even when it was empty

Illusioneffect:

I almost bought a ticket to watch the trash. I hope she got paid tons for the embarrassment. From playing an Oscar nominated movie to this trash is unhinged.
Better still, watch this review, it's more entertaining than the film itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK2RrYH1fXc

The movie is bad for sure but I'd rather eat shit for eternity than listen to what that toxic rage baiter have to say

abduleez1:


Yeah, I noticed it's not really a rom-com and just tagged it that way after seeing the trailer and not knowing where to categorise it.

Why would you expect the husband not to support her?? 👀

I don't think or even remember if I have watched Blake Lively as an actor. And I don't even have her in my consciousness to see any of her product, except probably this one.
If she's the one with Reynolds in Green Lantern flop movie, that's probably her only project I remember watching.

I was dragged by a special someone to go see it but I also took as a win because I remember when the book was trending on socials so I wanted to see what the buzz was about and the movie is really good with Justin's decent direction, just wish they had another actress to emote those feelings seeing as the movie is about domestic violence

pu7pl3:


Why wont her husband support her?

I mean your spouse could slightly nudge you into a right direction when you are being shady (you can research the drama on/off set on your own), I'm just saying because mine does and so do I but I guess relationships between people are subjective regardless of the type of ship it is

abduleez1:
Seems rom-coms are having a renaissance...🤔

This is not a rom-com, the way "Bland Blake" (watch the movie, her acting is bad bad bad) is marketing the film as such is such a disservice to the story (thank goodness for the backlash) coupled with the amount of drama that unfolded on set, people are beginning to her as the real gossip girl, it's why she was so good in the role because she was literally playing herself in the series and worse, her husband is supporting her