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Cabble4:
You just gave one definition correctly. However, the dead of Jesus on the cross has nothing to do with the absence of Life. If not, how did He went to the Grave and do the works of the Father.
Besides, Real Life is the God kind of Life and not humanity kind of Life. God's kind of Life is what Jesus has and not the One an ordinary man born of a woman has. Human kind of Life is Dead. Real Life never experiences death[Math:22:32]. The dead of Jesus on the cross has the same meaning as Gen:2:21[Deep Sleep]. It is also seen in Math:27:52, Mark:5:9.
The absence of Mankind's kind of Life is not dead. Instead, it's the absence of the God kind of Life which is Dead. Those not having Jesus as Lord and saviour, don't have this Life and thus are dead.

speaking about real life, do you know that Jesus was born of human, breastfed, he was nailed to the turture stake and he bleeded blood, he possess flesh and bone making him human he wasn't a spirit when on earth human saw, felt him, normally he wasn't suppose to die bt for our sins to be forgiven he has to give his life in exchange for ours after 3 day he was resurrected by his Heavenly father, God

Bishopkingsley:
Cabble4

Told you that son in earth is different from when God gives birth to his own son

God only birth God

Nothing less than God

But when man birth their own son is different from them but not so with God

I can give you more explanation but I know you won't accept earthly explanation

Let see

Now your son if I ask him who are you to him he will say you are my father

If I ask your father he will call say your my son

If I ask your brother he will say that my brother now
only u is bearing the name
father, son and brother

where did you read that God birth God is Equal to God

Bishopkingsley:
Sons of God is different from son of God

the letter s is added because they were more than one, while Jesus the one and only begotten son he sent to die for us is Just one

Cabble4:
Sons of God and not SON of God. I doubt you are sober because only in a contrary state can one compare Jesus Christ with a Fallen Angel.

they are both sons of God, it just that Jesus and the faithful angel chooses the right path while satan and the wicked angels(demon) chooses the wrong path

Bishopkingsley:
paltielx
I command you to be reading the scripture by yourself rather than those who teach you at your church in a wrong way

u can,t command me to read the Bible is not by force is very Good if all should read. Only ask me to read it please, let me tell you i don miss reading the Bible each day. I wil like to encourage you to read it as well, reason on what u read not just taking what u learn from church, there's more in the Bible than what ur pastor teaches you

Cabble4:
Oh what an experience I have had today. Really? You use dictionary[canal thing] to interpret or define spiritual thing? I can now understand where you are coming from.
If you define dead as a state of lacking Life, how do you reconciled Math:22:32?

look back in your Bible, Jesus quoted the 'i am' in the verse, after the quotation, i didn't use i am anymore bt instead uses he referring to God his father. Also for one to be spiritually dead, it means one is blind to the truth, at that state he is still alive bt since he is totally ignorant to the truth in God's word, he seems dead. That dead is different from the one jesus died to free us from sin and eternal dead

Cabble4:
Here we come again. Using mankind's knowledge of Sonship to understand that of God.
Good luck to you. I have to retire now!

Did you see that even the spiriual Son of God who according to you are to be like God, left their heavenly position to sleep with women?

Bishopkingsley:
No no
because according to you the eternal dead is lifeless so what are you saying again..... How can he dis arm lifeless thing..

Rather this is what it means

That place it telling u by what he did on the cross by dieing he disarmed powers and authority .... He he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them

What is them... All the demons... triumphing over them he began to rule over them

The bible went ahead to say he became the head of all principality and powers

i didn't say eternal dead is lifeless, i said that Jesus was lifeless when he died, The bible doesn't mention any demon there, it was the authority of sin leading to dead that Jesus free us from

Bishopkingsley:
How many times will I explain how father is greater

It didn't make sense because ur son if you have one can't be equate to you

Cabble4:
Oh! Clinging to straw again. You have been claiming assertively that Jesus was Lifeless and yet you have no scripture to support your argument? This is really worrisome.

the wiktionary dictionary defines that as a state of lacking life, so by his dead as recorded at mark 15:37, even the army officer on seeing his circumstances of dead affirmed that he is God's son

Bishopkingsley:
You say.... Jesus ramson sacrifice has done for the entire human race,

What has race, Ransome sacrifice got to do with... Powers and authority he dis armed

That place it telling u by what he did on the cross by dieing he disarmed powers and authorit

he is disarming the eternal dead that all human race would have fall into had it been that he did not die. Bt now we have the hope of resurrection if we exercise faith in that ransom sacrife of his as he was sent forth by his father

Cabble4:
He he! You are just beating about the bush. Holding straws to walk.
First, you claim Jesus was Lifeless. I requested for a scripture which you are yet to give.
Before then, you use Mankind's son ship to compare with the Trinity.
As if that was not enough, you went ahead to equate Adam, Fallen Angels with Jesus.

Please just where are you?

Back to this submission, don't use one scripture to build a doctrine OK. In the mouth of 2 to 3 witness, a truth is established.
You quoted Job:14:28 alone and build a doctrine out of it leaving the real conversation from verse 19 that gave rise to this.
There are a plethora of scriptures revealing them as One and no less of each other which have been quoted to you above. However, you just chose to plant yourself to a particular scripture you no absolute nothing about to build a doctrine.

you were suppose to define dead let's continue, instead of all this or should i define it for you?

Bishopkingsley:
Colossians two
14
having canceled the written code, with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us; he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
15
And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.

He disarmed the powers that and authorities by his death on the cross...

Devils power and authority he took it

I show you where he said he has power to resurrect him self

What are you going to believe on this Jesus

Before u will believe

So the kingdom of Devil was on the turture stake, that Bible portion is explaining what Jesus ramson sacrifice has done for the entire human race, he died so that our sins can be forgiven and we can live for ever if we exercise faith in that ransom sacrife

Cabble4:
Just give Me one scripture that say, Jesus was Lifeless please.

until you explain to me what you know as dead, when he died on the turture stake, the account says he expired

Cabble4:
And again, I reiterate, Jesus is the "I AM". Whether you believe it or not doesn't change the truth. It only keeps you in the dark. Only the truth you know will set you free.

Jesus himself says that the father is Greater than he is, bt you are stil equating him with God almighty, you have a long way to go. U most acept bible truth to save yourself

Cabble4:
The "I AM" can never be Lifeless please. Which bible do you use?

His father the I AM can never be lifeless bt his son that he sent can and was

Bishopkingsley:
You see why I told you that you don't know Bible

When Jesus died he was not lifeless

Rather he went to the devil kingdom and render them useless

He held those who put people in captive he capture them himself

He dealt with Satan and all his demon

And collected every thing they took from Adam


When I tell u that you don't know Bible it not a joke

That was why he rose up and declare all power has been given unto me... Glory to God we have a beautiful God Jesus

he said all power has been given him, who gave him the power

Cabble4:
Certain comments are so annoying to the ear. There has and there will never come a time when Jesus will be Lifeless. If that ever happens[which practically impossible], there will be no Existence. All things were made through Him and without nothing is made.

Jesus can be lifeless as it happened back then in isreal. His father and God is Who can never be lifeless. What do you understand as dead

Bishopkingsley:
You see why I told you that you don't know Bible

When Jesus died he was not lifeless

Rather he went to the devil kingdom and render them useless

He held those who put people in captive he capture them himself

He dealt with Satan and all his demon

And collected every thing they took from Adam


When I tell u that you don't know Bible it not a joke

where did u read that in the Bible that jesus went to the kingdom of devil during dead. The fact that jesus is the resurrection doesn't mean that he resurrected himself, jesus never said that instead Acts 2:24 says that God resurrected, at that dead Jesus was conscious of nothing, he was lifeless ecclesiates 9:5

Bishopkingsley:
John ten

31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him.

32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?

Look at it they wanted to stone Jesus because he said he is God son

Yet they said because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

He did not say he was God here he just said he was son of God and they know son of God equal to God

At that place they claim that a physical man not spirit was making himself God, Also it was a false accusation because Jesus never equal himself to God

Bishopkingsley:
But I already told you that the Son always give the father praise because he is the same with the father

Now look at when he defines who he is

Look he said

John 11:25 ►
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;


He is saying am resurrection

What is resurrection

Resurrection is the concept of coming back to life after death.

Some one that say they are resurrection

Your common sense did not tell you he is God since only God can give that commandment

According to u

Yes he is the resurrection, that what the popular John 3:16 says, that GOD so much love the world and sent his ONLY begotten son so that who so ever exercise Faith in him will not perish by have everlasting life. I was say that at his dead he was lifeless and knew nothing that happened, during that time another being his father who sent him to die resurrected him back to him back to life

Cabble4:
How mankind understands son is different from the way God's implication of a Son. Most of the natural things we have on earth are only pointers to divinity and not the Actual thing. Mankind's profile of a son is so limited that and as such using it to understand that of God is a very bad job. You can't, I reiterate, you just can't use your knowledge of sonship of mankind to understand that with God.
Again, it's not appropriate putting up argument when the truth is very glare. When the truth is presented to you convincingly, it doesn't make sense still hitting on the subject.

If you speaks about sonship, do you remember that Adam was God's son who disobey him, do also remember that the Bible described the disobey Angel that came to the earth to have sexual relationship with women as God's son

Bishopkingsley:
Wrong my brother

It like he telling you your Brain or spirit is different from you

that's what you think, the Bible never mentions that those three are one

Bishopkingsley:
Jesus asked them a question because many people were saying Joseph was Jesus father and some say he is prophet under the question

Peter said he is God son

Ask any Isreal those days they knew that God son is equal to God

It in the Bible too

The Isrealite never view God as his son, they were instructed at Deuteronomy 6:4 that they should listen, the Lord their is ONE God. Follow it in your Bible, this is Bible truth

Bishopkingsley:
God is saying I have the ability to be father and son and spirit

At the same time

So why are you angry at how God is

God show to us he can be in heaven and be on earth at the same time

Why are you thinking that God can not do it when you know God is everywhere

Sorry am far from being angry an just trying to show you the Bible truth that God and Jesus are different being

Bishopkingsley:
God resurrected Jesus yes

But I already told you Jesus is God so what your point

John 10:18
No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.

John 11:25 ►
Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die;

His father has commanded him, or has given him that authority before he say that, he always says that he does nothing of his own initiative but what the father commands is what he will do

Bishopkingsley:
Jesus asked them a question because many people were saying Joseph was Jesus father and some say he is prophet under the question

Peter said he is God son

Ask any Isreal those days they knew that God son is equal to God

It in the Bible too

Son and Father can never be the same, if you have a son, are you and your Son the same

Bishopkingsley:
I gave you many prayers place to Jesus instead of u to accept you talk around the corner saying that the writer is telling Jesus to come

The writer pray to Jesus to come and even added amen yet you want to twist it

I said they are speaking that way because all prayers to God are directed through Jesus

Bishopkingsley:
God resurrected Jesus yes

But I already told you Jesus is God so what your point

Once in the Bible people were confused who Jesus was however Peter his apostle clarify it at Mathew 16:16 that he is the Christ, the son of the living God. Confirm from your Bible

Lol Buhari is indeed dealing with them in a language they understand, this one Kanu was talking as if he is Demi God. We should all pray that God should give us solution to our problem as a nation, the more we make trouble the more our economy will continue to sink the more the prices of commodity will continue skyrocket the more we'll continue to suffer and the more we'll continue to blame our leader. May God's will take place

Call of duty to the Nigerian Army

Bishopkingsley:
the New Testament does not prohibit prayer being directed to Jesus (or to the Spirit). In fact there are a number of examples of people praying directly to Jesus.


In Acts, as Stephen is being killed he prays, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit” (Acts 7:59).


The penultimate verse in the Bible is a prayer to Jesus: “Amen. Come, Lord Jesus” (Rev 22:20).


The apostle Paul himself prayed to “the Lord” on occasion (see 2 Cor 12:8, a title Paul frequently applied to Jesus).

Yes this is because all our prayers are directed to God through Jesus, this was the privilege Good gave him after he accomplished his will of dying as a ransom for all humans, Jesus will never pray to himself but to God who is greater than him. Rev you quoted John the writer is tell Jesus to come quick we normally use to tell him to come