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Leyqute:
That mentality is the development I’m talking about. The players felt they should’ve won the Leicester game and were disappointed with a point.

That’s development.

If it wins us the league this season, fine. If we don’t, I’m happy with the development seen. It will only be a matter of time before we lift the league if that development is sustained.

But I won’t sacrifice that development for a title run this season.

It's that mentality that guarantees titles they go hand in hand...If we win, it means we are developing just fine and even if we don't, we should be thereabout...

I'll be disappointed if Liverpool or City leave us 10-15 pts behind come May, 2021.

Trevor012:
Liverpool
Same defense with few Injuries ,same Midfield and same attack with better bench and same Coach.

Man City
Even more better defense now, only lost Silva in Midfield and same attack with same Coach.

Same defense? Wow!!! Allison, Trent Gomez, Van Dijk, Robertson? Speak the truth and it will set you free...

Manchester City same defense? Laporte? Same midfield? Fernandinho?
Same attack? Aguero?

Baba try dey watch matches, not just Manchester United matches, e go dey help you when you dey form opinion for here and elsewhere...

Leyqute:
No one is really a contender yet. Wait till Feb or March before bringing out these talks. The usual suspects - teams who have been up there in the last 2 seasons are Liverpool and City, and that’s because of their past exploits.

And Stop joking. No one sees Leicester as a contender. They’ll be lucky if they make top 4 sef.

Leicester has a question mark in front, it's a question...

February is not far off, we'll have this discussion again God willing...

Trevor012:
Not like Man City and Liverpool have Both crossed over 93points each over the last few seasons. Not like they have almost the same players and coaches as well.

Yes Aston Villa are contenders as well

Please drop the team that helped them achieve that feat and let's compare with the present reality...

handelex:
This is it, the current reality but we fans still live in the bubble of Ferguson's Era. We are still a powerful outside the pitch but on the pitch, we are not a powerhouse anymore, but we're slowly but surely getting back at it.

What's the current reality?

Let me tell you about the current reality...

Liverpool are without VVD, Gomez and lately Matip...Their only fit CB is an expert DM who will be partnered with a teenager...

City have Aguero that best forward out injured and their best CB has been injured for some time now...Age too is not on their side with Fernandinho and Aguero struggling...

Chelsea are struggling to find their feet with so many new players...

Arsenal are someway off a title challenge...

Spurs have Mou...

Manchester United have a team that have been together for quite some time and have all their players fit bar our player doctors...

Above is the current reality...Is it when our rivals have rediscovered their form or replace aging players that we will be ready to challenge?

When Chelsea won the league with Conte, they weren't favourites, they just kicked on as the season progressed after a win against Arsenal or is it Liverpool and from there, they treated every match like a final...If only our players will have the belive that we can and take every game by the scruff of the neck, we will win the league...

You need to see Bruno's reaction to Rashford's goal yesterday and right there you'd see a man who believes impossible is nothing...

Whilst at it, who are the contenders at this point?

Manchester City?
Liverpool?
Chelsea?
Leicester?
Tottenham?

Why will Liverpool and City be contenders after 15 games yet a team that is 2 points off the top and above City can't be classed as contenders?

You guys are towing the line of we are not contenders just to protect Ole...If it was any other manager, I can guarantee that most of you would be talking about the quality of players in our team...

KingAlabi:
What is your brand of beer

Them go look you like olein

But this is the pure truth

Why are you so unstable? After the game you acknowledged that we are now contenders for the title and not up to 24hrs after you are supporting a post that says we are asking for too much by saying we can win this season seeing how things have panned out thus far...Pick a struggle bro...

Leyqute:
This unexplainable urgency to win big is the reason we’ve fallen so deep since SAF left. The want for instant success is the reason Mourinho was appointed and look at where it brought us. If you dont have a good squad, if you haven’t built a team of challengers, changing managers anyhow is just time wasting. You can buy the new manager 13 players and things still won’t work. Look at Conte and Inter.

You people want a team that has been collecting an average of 66 points per season to suddenly become challengers.

The problem is that peeps don’t look at where we’ve been and compare it with where we are.

FYI, Man Utd hasn’t been a “big” team for the last half decade. We’ve only played UCL football 2-3 times and have been struggling locally. So all these talks about “we’re big, we should be challenging “, I don’t know where you guys get it from.

The first step is to move in the right direction - and that’s claiming 80 points and above this season. It’s going to be an upgrade from last season. That’s the barest minimum , if we claim a title in the process, good. But title should not be the main main.

From there we can move on, upgrade and then become contenders every season.

At the beginning of the season the expectation was a top 4 finish given how the TW went but 2 months later you guys are demanding a title. Cool down nao.

At the start of the season, Liverpool and Citg were outright favorites but as the season has progressed, Liverpool and City have been hit by injuries to their best important players resulting in their inconsistent performances thus far. Do you expect us to see out rivals faltering yet stick to a top 4 finish when the possibility of winning the league is there? It's this review of the season that is making us believe we stand a chance if we maintain same level of consistency...

Talking about being a big team, in the period under consideration, we have won one FA Cup, UEL, Carling Cup and Community Shield and reached the final of the FA Cup as well as semi finals of major cup competition...The only thing missing is the EPL title and UCL...Is this Manchester United standard? Hell no but we've been thereabout...Do we have the quality to nount a serious challenge? I say YES in the affirmative...We have the right mix of experience and youth to blend...When you look at the investment in the squad and the quality of players we have, it'd be shocking if we don't see ourselves as strong contenders...

If we are not contenders now, is it next season when Liverpool are back to full fitness and City with a refreshed team that we will be contenders?

BARAJ92:
Will the company sack same manager, if their was drop in the profit level after reaching it peak? Ole wasn't appointed for immediate success. The norm for any top team in England is making the top four which was one of the reason why Wenger and Ferguson were never sacked. Once, it is impossible for Ole to make top 4, definitely he will be sack. Poch was sacked when it was getting almost impossible to get into top four same with Conte and Van Gaal. If Ole wins both the FA and Carling cup and fails to qualify for champions League, he will surely be sacked

Teams like most businesses review their targets as the months go buy. When Fergie joined, his target was to stabilize the team and gradually shoot for the top and he did just that and when we got to the top, his target changed from just finishing amongst the top 4 to winning the league or at worst the FA Cup or UCL and he didn't fail to do that consistently...

Ole and Manchester United need to win trophies as we are too big to settle for a top 4 finish. We set our own standard here. Arsenal and Chelsea might be okay with a top 4 finish but not us...

Go to any Liverpool fan page, even with VVD and Gomez injured, they still believe they'll win the league whereas some fans here think we shouldn't be classed as contenders even though we have been very lucky with injuries and have a large and technically gifted team...If two of our first team members are injured, I'm certain Ole will be excused for whatever bad performance we put up...

BARAJ92:
Since Klopp left Dortmund, how many leagues have they won or final have they reached.
Koeman might not be sacked based on the task he was given, He is managing a squad full of average and aging players. Koeman will only be sack, if he did not finish top three of LA Liga

Have we kicked on from that FA Cup, UEL and Carling cup win? The answer is no...We need to start believing we are good enough to win because we are...

You guys don't understand. It's like a struggling company posting negatives figures for a long stretch and after hiring a new manager, they continue posting loses but at a reduced rate, they'd definitely stick the the manager that shows such promise and after a few years, they begin posting profits, huge profits...

Do you think the board of directors of such companies will remember the past if the same business with the same manager pose loses again for 2 years? Nope, they'll look to higher another manager that will continue the positive trend. Check Poch with Spurs...

In the business world, Uber didn't record profits in first couple of years but their business model showed promises thus investors weren't deterred and now, they're doing well...If they begin posting losses again, investors will begin to ask questions that demand answers, no one cares about the days when they were struggling...

BARAJ92:
Have changing of Manager anyhow work for Man Utd in recent years? Look at Arsenal, everyone was complaining of Wenger as a top 4 merchant unknown to them that he was over achieving with the resources he has.
Man Utd successful years has always been with long term coach both under Matt Busby and Sir Alex Fergusson. Liverpool success came after sticking and believing in Klopp to take them to the promise land.

The era when clubs stick to one manager is long gone. Poch did very well with Spurs but when they started struggling he was kicked out...Also, see Mou at Chelsea and Conte afterwards...Klopp also left Dortmund when they were struggling irrespective of his earlier success with them.

If Liverpool go a season without winning a trophy now, Klopp will come under scrutiny and I am quite certain Pool won't take it easy should they go 2 seasons without a trophy.

After Van Gaals Fa cup winning season to the season we won the league cup and UEL, we should have kicked on demanding for silverware from every manager lest his job is under threat...I tell you, if it was Poch and not Ole who was appointed, nobody will give him the benefit of the doubt this long...

Koeman will most likely be fired by Barcelona should they end the season trophyless...You have to set standards...

Odunharry:
Tuanzebe is trying yes but i will pick Bailey with either of Magwaya or Lindelof

Of course, Bailly is the first choice...

CapitalCee:
And uf we repeat this form for the next 20 games we will have 82 points after 35 games. I swear 85 points is enough to win the league this season.

I went to several Liverpool fan pages, Oh God! They are damn scared of us.

Gradually, we will all be on the same page where will believe once more that we have a team capable to reaching the top and staying there...

Trevor012:
Look at this pretender. We can all see through your fake pretence. Carry on

Lol...You must be new here...We have had reasons to argue, sometimes very heated arguments but in all, we know too well that it's for the good of the team that's why you have find arguments here go south unlike the 'pant fc' thread...

FFS, they're fans who still supported Mourinho here even when it was obvious he had lost the plot but then, we saw it as their opinion and moved on...If the team starts dropping points and playing poorly, we will complain and since you can't replace all the players, the best bet to rejig a faltering team is to change the manager...It doesn't mean I or anyone hates him...I know you will prolly not get what I'm on about but I just had to...

afrodoc2:
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Will the statue wear pant?

Hehehe the way you take dey hit on this 'no pant' guru, I doubt if them go fit sing her praises here again...

You just dey capitalize on that point since. As e be now, any Chelsea fan wey look me anyhow go hear about Marina, the pantless negotiator...

Trevor012:
Oleouters are dying inside

You're fighting a battle in your head, one that only you is involved...You'll be fine...

Odunharry:
Abeg remove Tuanzebe fess. E get why.

As a CB, bar the poor performance vs Istanbul Basaksehir wherein the whole team was poor, he has been solid, need I remind you of how he made Neymar and Mbappe look ordinary?

Expert17:
I was about typing this, we have to stop playing Lindelof and Maguire together

When they play together we hardly press high up the pitch for fear of being caught on the counter since they lack pace...

eph12:
Nope
As it stands we both have a game in hand. So even if we won that match, we'll both be on same points with a game in hand

Just checked, you are right.

Hopefully Newcastle do the lord's work tomorrow and we win vs Aston Villa on Friday...

Villa are a tough nut to crack...

KingAlabi:
Since our defeat to arsenal, we are undefeated in the league in 10 games, winning 8 and drawing 2, explain what consistency means again?

It's for reasons like this and the inconsistency of rivals that makes some of us think we are contenders...But unfortunately, some of you still don't think we are contenders...

Unless Ole is mad, one of Bailly/Tuanzebe must always partner Maguire/Lindelof...

In our best defensive performance of the season, Tuanzebe and Lindelof did well against PSG...I don't fancy two ball playing CBs, we need some form of grit and pace which Tuanzebe and Bailly offers. I reckon Tuanzebe and Bailly might also workout as Tuanzebe is quite comfortable on the ball...

Leyqute:
I freaking dislike Nuno Espírito Santo for his tactics. Man used 5 midfielders today and 3 defenders.

Choked everywhere up. Negative mofo!

He was right to play for a point especially as he has a lean squad no thanks to injuries...In their bench, they had like 5 teenagers and with the stress of playing 2 matches in 3 days, you can understand his decision...

I acknowledge they're usually very compact.

Odunharry:
We d be level on points with pool. They will be ahead using gd

We have a game in hand remember...

elrony:
If only Rashford scored 70% of his clear cut chances.

But then, I no be Davido Hairmark

Make our defense dey try help out like today...

If only we held on against Leicester City, we'd be topping the table...

Win even when you don't play well, that's how champs do...

Yes!!!

Come on you reds...

Martial, your fada...

Rashford has been awful tonight...

melodyogonna:
He does?

I think so...