Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:24pm On Aug 25, 2008 |
hubreality: You cannot separate miracles from God's dynamic word. No one is disputing that.hubreality: Man's wisdom and the play of religion are void of Power. Very true hubreality: God's Word in the heart and mouth of a believer will always produce God desired results which are signs and wonders(Miracles) to mortals(Men). Might I add MIRACLES WHICH ARE GENUINE, not LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS which our Lord Jesus Christ warned us about. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 6:49am On Aug 25, 2008 |
fotodaddy: Leave the man alone and thank God say e never dupe you!! Please go over this rubbish you wrote here. Ask a sensible person to comment on it. I have nothing else to say to you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:09pm On Aug 24, 2008 |
fotodaddy: BUt na wah for una. If Chris Oyakhilome is a phony, which one concern you inside. You no know any 419 guys for your area?? Wetin you don do about am?? Mumu.
Leave the man alone and thank God say e never dupe you!!
And since you know the phonies from the legit, then I guess you are doing even better things than Jesus. Good luck to you 'christians' removing the spec from other people's eyes while a mighty log is jammed in yours!!!  Childish talk like this can only evoke sympathy. What a shame |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 6:44am On Aug 24, 2008 |
noetic: @ paulipopo
u have done very well in expressing your opinion and convictions. your opinion and position reflects an informed mind, knowledgble enough to ask sensitive questions. I commend your guts and intellect and your decision to limit your contributions to issues.
while i defer to call oyakhilome a fraud, because i m honestly not bothered, but my opinion cannot b far from urs. none of the self proclaiming christian zealots antagonising u have been able to intellectually or reasonably address the issues u raised, they are evoking sentiments, mediocricy, hypocrisy and the "say nothing about a man of GOd mentality" . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
i was once a frequent worshipper in one of his churches when i was in Lautech. the doctrines they prophesed contradicted my personal convictions. as we all know morality is the yardstick for religion. . . . . the rest is history.
but to lend credence to d issues u earlier stated, . . . . . . . the commercialisation of miracles and the gospel is the only evidence needed to know a fake prophet or pastor. let those who antagonise u ask them selves if oyakilomes version of the gospel and miracles is commercial or not? Thank you for your honest appraisal and may God strengthen you by his word. Amen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 7:35am On Aug 23, 2008 |
donnie: If u have been born agin and have experienced that same grace and power in signs and wonders u will not be able to speak against it. The Spirit wouldnt let you do so but if u insist and go ahead with your blasphemies it is impossible for anyone to restore you back because you delibrately denied Jesus and turned your back on the gospel and power of the Spirit which you have once tasted. You are beyond redemption. Another spirit takes over your life. That is the point of apostacy. Don't mix things up here. I am not denying the power of Jesus Christ but pointing out the phoniness of Chris Oyakhilome. donnie: "Just like the bible tells us. It is not possible for one who hs once recieved the Holy ghost and experinced the power of the gospel to be restored if he turns his back on the truth of the Gospel." This more aptly applies to you since your judgmental and hypocritical stance cannot possibly be inspired by the holy spirit. The Spirit certainly would not inspire you to conjure carnal arguments like you are doing since clearly the blasphemy you talk about is clearly a mirage you seem so eager to exhibit. You have no power to declare that I am beyond redemption, that is God's call, and the point of apostacy you talk about is already being shown in the manner you try to win an argument you cannot handle. Despite your animosities, I'll rather pray for you and hope the Holy spirit will direct our hearts in unison. Amen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 11:46pm On Aug 22, 2008 |
donnie: I have listened to this unbeliever called Paulipopo and his friends some of which i recognize to be against everything called Spirit or supernatural. Yet they claim to be christians and quote scripture. Brethren, beware of dogs. The mixed muiltitude. They came out of egypt but yet they still lung to go back there. They are comfortable with the natural, what they can see and touch that is why they call for evidence. They would have prefered it if the people prayed and prayed and prayed until God finally answered. But an instant miracle is out of the question. I pity u. And put it to you that u don't really believe in Jesus and His Word. Chances are that u either are not functioning in a church under a man of God or u are simply on an antichrist mission to steal, kill and destroy. But the wrath of God is against all manner of wickedness whether done in the body or outside. So christian or no christain, u will give account. The bible says the punishment of the transgressor and the sinner shall be together. Such hypocrisy, resentment and hatred coming from someone who claims to appreciate the spiritual and supernatural. What an odd mix of ignorance and spite. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 11:40pm On Aug 22, 2008 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 10:07pm On Aug 22, 2008 |
Africankel: Dearly beloved, Warm greetings to you in the matchless name of our Lord Jesus,
My Dear Paulipopo, We are not outbusting our emotions, but pointing out some wrong auttrances against the man of God and correcting them. I'm not here to exchange words with someone who's heart has been blinded to the truth,
I have carefuly observed and noticed that you are really not aurguing the genuity of mircales but the ability of God, I told you in my earlier posts that ANYBODY can lay hands on people and they will be healed, I have done it several times, It Works!, Jesus did many mighty works, yet he was criticised, Think of it, Judas ate with him, worked and walked with Him yet he betrayed him, Pastor Chris could not help but laugh after reading some of your posts,
Miracles don't have to be proven, thats why they're called miracles. (The intrusion of God in a natural situation), They don't need human reasoning! See you in Heaven.
God bless you! A very weak and unsound argument coming from you. But in any case I wish you the very best, hope to see you in heaven too and God bless you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:37pm On Aug 22, 2008 |
dudu-bobo: @Paulipopo, I see you have a grouse against Pastor Chris Oyakhilome.
Do you have any evidence that miracles performed at his gatherings are not veriafiable?
I understand, and agree with, your point about not just seeking miracles but actually seeking God. However, I don't agree that publicing anything done in God's name is against the word of God. We are actually to go and publish/spread it You are a liar to say I argued "that publicing anything done in God's name is against the word of God", I never said that you are the one trying to make it look like I have something against Chris Oyakhilome. Besides show me living proof not your claims or those of members of Christ embassy, but neutral and EVIDENTLY truthful signs, evidence, proof, sound and lie proof testimony. Those are the things that make a miracle verifiable. And your reverse psychology ploy is not working. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 7:33am On Aug 22, 2008 |
I have been compelled to write this because of the fanatical replies I have seen from the likes of bluesteps, baby5 and Africankel who without doubt are unteachable going by their emotional outbursts and pointless arguments.
Why should I publicly criticize Christian Oyakhilome? Because I have found him wanting in the way and manner he teaches and the motivation behind many of his programmes such as Atmosphere for miracles, Atmosphere for faith and one other whose name I cannot recall. His programmes are aired PUBLICLY TO MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. Keeping quiet under the guise of not JUDGING Men of Gold God is a lame excuse considering that silence about phoniness is tantamount to consenting to it.
For a start let us compare and contrast Genuine miracles with fake, stage managed miracles.
1. Genuine miracles are always verifiable.
The miracles Jesus christ performed always made people wonder what manner of man is this because his works were clearly and VERIFIABLY supernatural. He gave sight to a beggar who was born blind and this was easily verified by a whole community who knew the man from birth. Read Matt. 20: 29 - 34, Mark 10: 46 - 52 and Luke 18: 35 - 43
He heals a man with demons named legion (in some other translations mob). The demons were cast into a herd of pigs feeding by the hillside. The whole town saw that the pigs had all drowned and the man legion was in his right mind and the people asked jesus to leave their town because they were terribly afraid. Read Mathew 8: 28 - 34, mark 5: 1- 20 and Luke 8: 26 - 38.
Jesus feeds five thousand men excluding women and children with five loaves and 2 fish Read Mathew 14: 13 - 21, Mark 5: 30 - 44, Luke 9: 10 - 17 and John 6: 1 - 14.
2. Genuine miracles need not be advertised whereas fake and stage managed miracles must be COMMERCIALLY SOLD to gullible and faithless people for profiteering and vain glory. Jesus Christ always implored those he healed to go on and tell no one about it. The examples above showed how word of mouth of a genuine miracle which is also VERIFIABLE would attract a lot of attention whether you try to hide it or not.
Whereas Fake and Stage managed miracles will be advertised in print and electronic media and will always remain UNVERIFIABLE because they are not genuine and the need to give false hope to miracle seekers who of course will pay to attend crusades, revivals or (whatever other name there is) in form of collections, offerings, tithes, seed money etc.
3. Miracle seekers would rather seek a sign than keep God's commandments. Jesus said how evil are the people of this day they ask for a miracle but none will be given them except the miracle of Jonah (some translations use sign in place of miracle) Read Mathew 12: 38 - 42 and Luke 11: 29 - 32. Despite being a man of great works Jesus affirmed the evil in seeking miracles (signs and wonders) IN PLACE OF HIS WORD. Genuine Men of God are aware of this and they instead prefer to preach the good news for the salvation of souls and not Heretical messages of men's wisdom.
For more on false prophets PLEASE READ 2 peter chapter 2. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 6:30am On Aug 22, 2008 |
ecnevic: its very disappointing that someone will spend his precious time on his computer condemning a man of God. God did not send you to this earth to criticise but to make positive impart in the lifes of many. in what way have you imparted into the life of the people around you? please my dear, don;t say something that will bring curse to you. learn to live by the dictates of the Spirit of God and pray always for other people not criticising them. It is equally disappointing that people would not question the spurious works of so called men of God but instead will offer excuses for why they should not be Criticized. Test the spirits and ensure that they are from God is the admonishment from john, their fruits would reveal to us who they really are. Do not conclude that something is true or false until you have credible reasons to say so. |
Politics › Re: Ndi Okereke-Onyuike Arrested By EFCC Over Obama Xtravaganza! by paulipopo(m): 10:49pm On Aug 21, 2008 |
lepashandi: i have it on good authority that Ndidi Onyioke (onyuike) wants to fukc Obama - this is the fact. That is really mean of you. The poor woman ought to have known better, a venture like this is inimical to social projects here in Nigeria. I really wish she comes out of this unscathed. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:38pm On Aug 21, 2008 |
Africankel: Spiritually minded people spend time on things that will enhance the growth of their spirit, Fleshly minded people spend time on things that will enhance the growth of their sences. Sure they do and i hope you are one of them (spiritually minded). Africankel: To say the least, I have no suprise what so ever by the rising level of critics we see everyday critisizing successful Men of God like, Pastor Chris Oyakhilome, Pastor Youngi Cho, Pastor Benny Hinn, Pastor E. A. Adeboye, Pastor Matthew Ashimolowo, amongst others, How sad, that people up till this moment do not have regard for Men of God, I advise that if you know anybody criticising MOG, RUN AWAY FROM THEM, afterall, the bible says in Philippians 3:2 for us to "Beware of dogs,", But if you have sturborn faith, Pray for them. Actually people would regard men of God who do not mislead God's people, misconstrue his messages for selfish reasons or play tin god christianity. Africankel: Remember: even when Jesus was on earth, He was not recognised as the Son of God by many, The bible says "He couldnt do any mighty works in Nazareth"(His Village), That didnt change His status or Personality, No matter what you say or think about Pastor Chris Oyakhilome PhD,, it wouldnt change who or what he is, We have seen alot of Pastors critisize him openly and send him (Pastor Chris) Letters, I remember vividly when Pastor Benny Hinn was visitin Nigeria in 2006, Letters where Written and addressed to Pastor Chris by Your so called PFN, appologizing for their autherances and pleading that he release some of his workers to the Benni's Crusade, (I thought they knew it all), You see?, He was being critisized, yet they were attracted to him. Not my PFN, and the mighty works jesus christ performed were verifiable unlike the so-called miracles of christ embassy. Africankel: It'll be of immense help to you if you concentrate on your life and walk with God, and forget about what you thing the next man is doing that (You think is wrong) Thank God i am already doing that and my life is indeed a blessing. Africankel: For example, While Jesus was on earth, His shadow never healed people, but the shadow of Peter did, Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever, Miracles are real!, I have laid hands on people and they got instantly healed, anybody can do it! Of course miracles are real but they are also verifiable don't forget that. Africankel: I almost forgot, you said he read a scripture out of context, Have you ever sat down to study your bible and notice what it says and what it doesnt?, Have you ever sourced for the original manuscripts?, Pastor Chris is too BIG to make such mistakes on TV, No! Get a copy of the "ORIGINAL HEBREW and GREEK" Translation of the bible, you will find out that you have not known half of what the bible talks about as giving in your KJV, I advised you to also get other "GOOD" English translations, with references, Pastor Chris messages are a TOTAL reflection of his life, Trace his history, I bet you, You'll be inspired to be like him, Ofcourse I have and that was why it was easy to spot the misapplication of scripture by him. Africankel: You said he does Jerry, Hahaha, quite funny, Liar someone else said that not me Africankel: Let me ask you a simple question, Did the Bible ask you to BRUSH YOUR TEETH? Where were you asked in the bible to take your daily bath?, The problem is that you have refused to see that Christianity is more than the physical looks, Christianity is STEPPING OUT OF THE NATURAL, Get it into your skull that Christians are not under any law, for the law of the Spirit of LIFE in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death, in other words, Christianity has distinguised him from those under the law (The Heathen) Actually you are the one drumming that up. Read my post well and see that you are simply trying to divert attention to trivialities. Africankel: Well, you cannot understand these things, because "the foolishness of God is wiser than the wisdom of men"(1 Corinthians 1:25), Surely men like you are also included. Africankel: Whather or not you like it, Pastor Chris is headed for the top, you cannot hear what we hear from him everyday and remain thesame, We are moving forward and making progress, we are getting greater by the day, No government can stop us!, because "Greater is He that is in us, than he that is in the world", (Blasting in Tongues Now) just like many others who do not listen to his messages. Africankel: I pray for you, that the eyes of your understanding be open, I pray that the rays be turned on in your spirit, The wisdom (Phronesis) of God works in you, it inundates your very esseince, You are walking in the knowledge of God's word, I pray that the love of God abound much more in you heart, such that you will see God in people, haterad is far from you, may God's grace rest upon you, may He not only bless you, but make you a blessing, You are the solution to the cry of many, men will speak good of you all the days of you life, you will never groan for your heart desires, it comes to you of a free caurse, Critisism is far from you, May you continually see the good in people, refuse to see the mistake of ANY man of God, The blessings of God that makes rich and adds no sorrow are yours in abundance, Amen. I also pray that the same things come to you. And may God bless you too. Amen. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:11pm On Aug 21, 2008 |
kamken: my dear you don't have to say the word condemn,attack or beef before one knows you are go through your post again though you have tried not to make it look so and please you didnt answer my questions.please do thank you and i wish you all the best in this our walk till christ comes. I wish you the same |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is Satan Really Such A Bad Person? by paulipopo(m): 11:17pm On Aug 20, 2008 |
Satan and Devil are not one and the same.
Satan is the bad guy who deceives man.
Devil is the evil one who rebels against God.
Well all I can say is that both evil and good are committed by man and as such he should be held liable for both. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:35pm On Aug 20, 2008 |
Bluesteps: @ paulipopo what did the bible refer to as fruit? u don't even know what u are saying. can u tell me one of the fruit of P.Chris that u have seen?whether Good or bad? Is miracle a Fruit? tell me Oga poster. Ignorance is a serious disease. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:23pm On Aug 20, 2008 |
Bluesteps: Is he rich because he is a pastor or a successful businessman? Not only poor frustrated fellows criticize the rich even rich, well enlightened and goal oriented people do. besides this has nothing to do with riches or success.
The guy wasnt talking about wealth. He said influential.Now i even get what your problem is. I think you are more bothered about the fact that he is a rich pastor than any other thing. You just dey beef the guy. Bros take am easy. for your info. P.Chris is not just a pastor he is a Business man. And are u trying to say u are rich? because u obviously not. the rich that criticise the rich are not rich but beautifully wraped poor people. The rich folks have no time to spend on funny and useless issues as such. If God doesnt like the way P.Chris church is growing it would have crumbled a long time ago. Besides we have seen and heard of false prophets where are they today? u know how many years Christ embassy has been in existence? Guy they are waxing stronger. I advice u join the train Cheers You were either absent minded when you read his comments or you are simply mud slinging. What do you think he meant by are you loaded? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 12:38am On Aug 20, 2008 |
kamken: @poster well anyone can express his or her view but we should be careful about what we say,the issue is not whether pastor or not even to ourselves as christian,but what i have realised is that people that attacks are the ones that their christian life is nothing to write home about because even when you are standing you pray for people to come to the knowledge of God,you wont condemn and if i may ask are you born again? and please which church do you attend please is not about church i just want to know. For heaven's sake remain within the grasp of the topic. I did not condemn him and the duty of praying for our pastors lie with each and every one of us. Thank you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:16pm On Aug 19, 2008 |
bobokanis: This guy Pastor Chris should be an influential person. You don't talk about failures, you only talk about success. Anyway @ poster, only poor frustrated fellows wrongly criticize the rich. Are you loaded? Is he rich because he is a pastor or a successful businessman? Not only poor frustrated fellows criticize the rich even rich, well enlightened and goal oriented people do. besides this has nothing to do with riches or success. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 6:44am On Aug 19, 2008 |
layinka55: I want to think you are a believer who is conversant with the word of GOD. Remember the scripture teaches that 'Do not judge your fellow man as the same measure that you have used shall also be used to judge you in return.Let me also draw your attention to what the Apostles came to tell Our Lord Jesus Christ, 'Master, those people on the other side who are not part of us cast out demons in your name' and he replied, 'He that is not against us is surely for us'. As pastor Chris uses the name of GOD, let him be, for the Bible says that not everyone that calls me would enter the kingdom. Let GOD be the judge of that.GOD says my thoughts are not your thoughts, man sees outwardly but GOD inwardly!!! But the bible also says that by their fruits you shall know them. I have not condemned the man have I? so the so called measure with which you judge others does not apply to your argument. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 9:22pm On Aug 18, 2008 |
baby5: u need to get a life, your sittin here on the comupter tellin us pastor is a phoney, well i for one don't believe it, becuse its a complete lie with no truth in it, sure everyones allowed there own opinion, but really come on, what have u ever done to change the world, my guess nothing. think of how many people got there healing living normal lives, think of people who used to beg for afew coins are now millioners, and You your still here with your computer complaining, becuse he is a better person, who cares about the world, next time think about it before u say anything. A reasonable comment does the world alot of good, unfortunately your case is that of a kettle calling a pot black. Your guess is really wrong I have in my little way contributed to development of the world, but as for you I am not so sure. If my post is a complete lie at least offer a shread of evidence that i am lying. Please indicate that his messages reflect truth and not the sanctimonious displays you are used to. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 12:25pm On Aug 18, 2008 |
dudu-bobo: @poster, you did not tell us exactly what he preached that was heretical. If he quoted scripture out of context once, is that enough reason to call him a phoney? (people make mistakes) To be a phoney implies being False, unreal, ignorant of what you profess, unnatural. It would amount to misguided enthusiasm for the truth if I have to outline every mistake oyakhilome makes but the bottom line is a message misconstrued for spiritual or doctrinal reasons is heresy which is exactly what he preached last sunday to millions of viewers. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 12:19pm On Aug 18, 2008 |
Bluesteps: @ Poster
First of alll I have a Question for you. Have you met Chris Oyahilome one on one? You know you can't pass judgement on someone u hardly know or havent talked with one on one. So i strongly disagree with you. No I have not done all that. But for someone who knows his left from his right you can't tell me my left is my right and vice versa without me knowing you are either trying to fool me or just don't know what you are saying. |
Christianity Etc › Chris Oyakhilome Is A Phoney by paulipopo(op): 10:05pm On Aug 17, 2008 |
Make no mistake in interpreting my post as an attack on Chris Oyakhilome it is not, rather it is a true description of the man so many people adore but fail to realise the phoney acts he puts up. Christ embassy is all about Chris Oyakhilome and not jesus christ like he falsely claims and I would explain why shortly.
No man has the power to judge his fellow man but as christians we are required to test the spirits, instruct the ignorant about faith and warn other christians of the antics of preachers who disguise their love for worldly riches with aura of religious authority.
For a start Chris oyakhilome founded christ embassy as a campus fellowship in Ambrose Alli University, while I do not know how he ran things down there (although his followers are always at his beck and call) I can talk about things down here in lagos when in 1998 some so called christ embassy envangelists offered free VCD players for people to join their campus fellowship in unilag my cousin was among those who fell for the bait but has since retraced his steps.
For me to call a so-called man of God a phoney I must either be telling the truth or lying. If I am telling the truth (which is what I am doing) my conscience will be at ease plus my God would find no fault in it.
If I am lying (which is not what I am doing) I will incur the wrath of God for slandering his faithful servant. Once again make no mistake, I am not calumnising the man but merely stating facts about him.
For any person to be phoney, he must be false or unreal especially with the use of words. I must say Chris Oyakhilome knows just how to use words to suit his lifestyle or illustrate half-truths that suit his purpose. Listening to Chris oyakhilome is very refreshing because of his logical approach to explaining lessons of life but the effect of his message is exactly what contradicts his inspiring messages. The effect is plainly outlandish, sentimental and superficial just as it is with heresies and propaganda both of which are instruments of phoneys.
Listening to him speak on his atmosphere for faith programme on super screen today the 17th of August, where he quoted a verse from Habakkuk (1:5) out of context (in other to dissuade viewers from believing publications reported against his church in South Africa with the man on the wheel chair story) I just knew it that this man's televangelism is about himself and his reputation. The verse he quoted relative to the whole chapter did not show any relevance to his message nor did it justify his efforts to mislead his viewers. Chris Oyakhilome is thus preaching a false message since it is erroneous, misleading and manipulative. This style is typical in many of his messages I rest my case at this point but be warned the man is a phoney. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Christ Contradict Himself? by paulipopo(op): 10:33pm On Aug 08, 2008 |
DeepZone: People sha! How can God contradict Himself? Unbelievable!! I did not say God contradicted himself. My QUESTION is DID JESUS CHRIST CONTRADICT HIMSELF? Answer with a simple yes or no but of course provide a very sound argument to buttress your point(s). People sha! When will they learn to answer simple questions or make meaningful comments? Unbelievable!! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Christ Contradict Himself? by paulipopo(op): 10:18pm On Aug 07, 2008 |
ursolution: Dear friend, Jesus did not at all contradict himself in any of His statements in the scriptures. If you really want to know the meaning of His words don't read the scriptures like you are reading a newspaper or other books. God inspired apostle paul in one of his letters to the corinthians and he said ''The letter kills but it is the spirit that gives life". The Holy spirit is the one that intepretes the word of God as the bible says He searches the deep things of God and reveals them to us. Another thing about the word of God is that it may be instructing you on things concerning your own life.The scriptures is useful for correction, reproof and instruction in righteousness (2Tim3:16). In a nutshell whenever you read any thing in the word of God, look at the situations that surrounds it, then look into your own life. If you can't still connote a meaning to it, then get back to the owner of the scripture. By the way are you born again? olabowale: I am very surprised at your lame reply. How would you describe reading a newspaper? I know interpreting scriptures require faith and wisdom but this is not my intention. I asked if Jesus was contradicting himself because clearly the scriptures I read, illustrated a contradiction.
@Deepzone, etc: Why are you avoiding a thread that is tailored for a potentially hearty discussion? I am waiting and don't disappoint me. I don't understand please expatiate. italo: my dear brother, the Bible is not a story book or a text book, you can not understand the Bible without the Grace of God. B4 u read d Bible, believe it, pray 2 God 2 open your eyes. Remember the Lord, Jesus Christ said, Father, i thank you for hiding these things from the wise and revealing them to mere children. these tells u that it is not reading the Bible that makes you understand it but your mindset. your mind must be set as that of a child who believes everything the parent says. besides coming back to the part of the bible that you read,
IS ABRAHAM A MAN? of course not. think. Still the same old song. Unable to stick to the issue at hand. A_K_O: Is that in your bible? 
Please tell me it isn't in your bible
What is the basis of this assumption? The bible in Matt. 11:11 didnt state any characteristics of the least in the kngdom so which are you profering? I genuinly want to learn. The bible doesn't have to state anything other than that Abraham is a member of the Kingdom of heaven. The assumption is very sound since Abraham could be greater than the least in the kingdom of heaven like any other while still being a probability that he is. |
Christianity Etc › Did Jesus Christ Contradict Himself? by paulipopo(op): 7:42am On Aug 03, 2008 |
I posted a topic sometime in may titled seeming contradiction in the Bible in which I raised the question was Jesus Christ contradicting himself?
what prompted my asking the question was that Jesus Christ once said of all men born of a woman there is none as great as John the Baptist and yet the least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than him. Then Jesus Christ also told another parable about Lazarus and a certain rich man in which Lazarus was described as being in the bossom of Abraham in heaven. Having said this John the baptist is therefore greater than Abraham who was born of a woman but Abraham who let's assume is the least in the kingdom of heaven is also greater than John the Baptist.
This was my observation. There were only two replies to that post and the one that attempted to answer the question gave a totally out of the point answer when he said Abraham is not a member of the kingdom of heaven since Kingdom means Government and the government in heaven comprises God the father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit.
A kingdom is a territory controlled or ruled by a king whereas a government is an institution that preserves the wellbeing of people within a defined territory. Therefore Abraham is a member of the Kingdom of heaven which implies one of the following:
1. Jesus Christ was Contradicting himself 2. He was trying to puzzle his disciples or 3. There is some unexplained answer to the question |
Jokes Etc › Re: Nigerian Jokes by paulipopo(m): 9:36pm On May 16, 2008 |
Teacher: Dele what is your favorite flower?
Dele: Chrysantomanus
Teacher: Spell it please
Dele: Actually I think I like roses better. |
Romance › Re: Can Someone Please Tell Me If I Am A Player? by paulipopo(op): 9:46pm On May 15, 2008 |
Thank you all for your replies. I love you all. yea I am now convinced that I am not a player. God bless |
Romance › Re: Can Someone Please Tell Me If I Am A Player? by paulipopo(op): 11:03pm On May 14, 2008 |
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I said no insults please. You are free to criticize my style but the shior thing is unacceptable to me. By the way sly and paulipopo are two different people.
You are definitely not paying attention. I want to get your opinion on whether or not I am a player? I haven't called myself a player. If you can't answer any of my questions then just sharapp and let others have their say. |
Jokes Etc › Re: The Funniest F/m Nairalander by paulipopo(m): 9:56pm On May 14, 2008 |
for me i would say the funniest female nairalander is almondjoy and the male would be totolover |
Romance › Re: Can Someone Please Tell Me If I Am A Player? by paulipopo(op): 9:32pm On May 14, 2008 |
but you already know the definition of a player it seems and have even written a definition so you should be able to work out whether you are one or not Tongue
How has that helped me? |