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charlesm91:
zlatan doesn’t have the numbers, trophies, career and records those two have so no way his name will be brought up despite the fact he’s won the league. I could say same for Coman in Bayern and Vidal in italy-they win wherever they go. Messi/Ronaldo are adjudged to be the best players in the world so the best way to rank them is to find what differentiates them uniquely. While Messi is brilliant and have no problem with people who chose him as the best, but repetitive becomes specialization and that’s what he is in Spain. No matter the setup, coaches and behind the scenes, he’s already specialized in the art of la liga having spent over 12 years playing there.
Ronaldo on the other hand by virtue of how his own career kicked off took a different approach. It’s easy to say he went to world class clubs, but we’ve seen world class players go to top clubs and flop or fail to live up to the desired expectations as a result of unexpected variables, Hazard being the latest example. Madrid was ridiculed in Europe when Ronaldo arrived despite the fact that Manutd at that time was the better team and had to wait 4 years to win ucl, he worked his way up the ranks at Manutd and decided to freestyle in Italy.
This is not to say should Messi move away from Barca he won’t succeed. Statistically he should, but statistics is merely hypothesis and there’s a scenario he fails too. His time with the Argentinian team also provides an alternate view. So in the end, all we have about Messi’s ability outside of Spain is just guesses. Also he’s scored more goals against epl team than people who played in epl isn’t an accurate judgement. There’s a difference playing with Barcelona against a team in England and playing against English team in an English based club. The adaptation, training methods, scheduling, etc. like i said before it’s not a given that Messi can’t do it. It’s highly possible he can.
So did Ronaldo fail in his goal in Italy? Perhaps so. Cos we expected more from him in the ucl given his past heroics, (at least he never did promise publicly to bring ucl to turin he merely promised to challenge giving his best). But on an individual level, he was successful.
Personally i feel Ronaldo should leave except he wants to see out his contract, he’s done well given the squad Juve has. Juve is in the process of rebuilding and a 36yr old Ronaldo shouldn’t be a part of that. Let me just try and enjoy football wherever he can by winning now rather than later.
I feel at the end Ronaldo will sit back and look at his career and be much more fulfilled given the collection and variety of trophies and records he achieved. And unless Messi wins at least a copa with Argentina, that stigma will always go with him and fans will have a life long task of defending him.
P.S. Messi is great but i prefer CR7. There’s no point arguing over

love ur analysis my man even if its lengthy....I enjoyed reading all through and m not saying all must like messi...
d point is dt all man win n lose bt cr7 boys always keep attacking messi failures in national team asif cr7 doesnt have his own fails....now its glaring dt tinz didnt go as planned in Italy even if he did his best individually bt his fans aint saying nothing about it BT instead asking messi to leave barca to please them..

HONESTFACT102:
the cigar he smoke still dey affect am.......signing out

lolz...he meant the best ever....abi u get any oda player u wan mention??
abi u thinking about calling ur best player dt is about leaving his new challenge to anoda easier challenge??

the one n only GOAT we gat..

obembet:
Please can your Messi do this; Champion in
England, Spain and Italy; Cup winner in England, Spain and Italy; Super Cup winner in England, Spain and Italy; Best Player in England, Spain and Italy; Best Scorer in England, Spain and Italy; Over 100 goals for a club in England, Spain and Italy.

Like for my goat abeg

mynd44

lolz...m surprised u are comparing them based on trophies won in different countries because zlatan had won the league in all top European clubs and u are saying nothing about him being the goat..
we all know dt if being the goat is all about trophies won, cr7 n messi wont be mentioned because alves av won more in different clubs and u aint talking about It..
being the GOAT is based on Individual performance n its better messi remains in spain n enjoys football, because assuming its messi dt seeked foe this "new challenge" in Italy only to dump a league winning Juve in to 4th position, I know you would surely create a lot of thread about "HOW MESSI FAILED IN ITALY"......hypocrites..

The one and only G. O. A. T.

the last line..... He said "winning in a country were nothing is easy to win"

He has proven himself....... King Cr7

lolz....nothing is easy to win and juve won the league for 9yrs consecutively n even sacking coaches like conte n sarri dt won dm double to show how d league means nothing to them...
the same country that mourimnho inter won ucl n all trophies with a squad dt spent less than wat juve spent in bringing cr7 dt couldn't even take Juve to the semi of ucl ony for him to leave after seeing dt next season would be hot...
maybe he is seeking for anoda new challenge in PSG dt d competition would be easier n he can pad stats with league goals....jus mayb

funny seeing cr7 fans now shifting d table n talking about his total achievement instead of him running after failing in Turin...
this is not the GOAT discussion bt am jus surprised about mr champions league planning to run from his "new challenge" without d UCL he promised, and also his fans are blind n aint talking about him leaving Italy without the "holy grial" dt made juve splashed such cash on him..
assuming its messi dt seeked for this same "new challenge" in Italy only to quit n leave a trophy laden team like Juve we used to know in 4th position, I know many cr7 fans dt would create a lot
of topics about "HOW MESSI FAILED IN ITALY".....funny hypocrites

kenzysmith:
Oga Milan is a very important club in Italy and champions league miss them even those outside Italy want Milan to be back is simply logic Atalanta has not lose a game in the league for 15 games at the bounce why yesterday ? Why will Napoli suddenly draw a crucial match I won't waste my time with u

u aint getting d point...it's better u say italian fa helped milan to ucl and napoli sold d game for juve to qualify...
ur point is dt the fa helped Juve by allowing milan beat Atlanta wich make no sense because its easier for Atalanta to beat Milan if they planned helping Juve than Napoli losing...
luck helped Juve n napoli was jus unlucky....leave dt crazy "CNT afford to lose cr7" becoz it holds no water, incase u dnt know, all top clubs in Italy were planning for juve to end in europa n dts why Milan won DT game easily...

hope this is not an excuse loading already before their defeat?
I also wish him to be fine n fit for dt game because city dnt care about who's starting, they go surely deliver.

only one GOAT in football...only goals surpassing cr7 goals n assist combined?
I still insist dt being the best isnt just about scoring goals because such can be replaced or forgotten easily..
for me, d edge messi have against cr7 is dt he is a proven playmaker which makes it easy for him to end a season with more goals n assist than others..
the real gold u can get in football is finding a playmaker dt scores goals n I dnt think they is any bcoz the ones I know are just about giving assist.

wish him well

obitwice:
Indeed this guy is the real G.O.A.T to be honest! I used to love Messi because he is magical and simply out of this world but since the departure of Xavi and Iniesta, Messi's lapses has been really obvious which is why he's where he is now. But Christiano, is on another level! 3 different super leagues and dominated all! All 3 top titles in the leagues won! Top scorer! The list is endless! What got me most is the dude saying that he doesn't chase records "records chase him" mehn! Hard work really pays! Ronaldo has even done better than the Brazilian Ronaldo that made that name famous! He's the REAL RONALDO FOR ME!

ur opinion bro but since xavi n iniesta left, messi have developed and reinvented his game n dts why you said he do struggle leading d team alone dis days than before when messi easily drags a bad barca team n win games alone bcox of brilliance of Xavi n.iniesta..
back then messi do most of the scoring n keeps enough time n focus for dt but now its more about starting d play, all attacks starts n involves him n dts why he easily ends up with more goals n assist than any Oda player..
for me I'll say he improved since they left n dts why its easy for him to win individual awards even without winning a trophy bcoz it isnt easy to see a such type of goal scoring playmaker in europe, if they is any...

nice words

hope its not fury, joshua n wilder paychecks dt causing this motivation??
jus calm down n snap it off ur head because boxing hard pass bricklayer work o..
strong jab wey dm gv my padi bayo for face during dt.gotv boxing competition last 3years still.de affect.am.reach.today..
if u joining for d.love of if, I wish u well BT boxing no.easy

that's loyalty and on d other hand, he knows its easy playing in Gabon whenever he likes dt playing for spain or france dt wont call him or even use him..
with his kinda form dis last season, no European country will select him for euros bcox of so many star players involved..
he feels.its better to be a whale in a small river like Gabon than being a small fish in a bigger ocean like spain or France

wht141:
No morata, no sergio... Omo this coach get mind ooo
Whatever he has in mind i hopes it works or he will surely get sacked after

Ramos av bin injured all through d season n havnt trained with Spanish team for more than 6 months n i still believe its a better idea playing laporte istead of ramos bcoz i dnt think it would make sense calling ramos n leaving d captain on d bench..
morata hardly gets game time n I dnt see any striker on dt list dt morata is currently better than when talking about form.

Spain have soo many quality players n he took the players getting game times and dt are on form..
he even selected 24 players instead of 26 saying they is no need calling a player dt isnt in form to train with those that are in form..

Pierocash:
why are you contradicting yourself.

You asked a question about my comment,as to why Africans aren't doing as great as the whites ,I answered you,and you still added to it by admitting that CR7 ,and Messi are using it.

So what is your point

lolz...cr7 n messi are using voodoo too?? abeg show me were d jazzman dey mk i follow up...
u are jus talking based on assumptions bro...abi na u de package the jazz for cr7 n messi??

today is just monday and f.p topics are dominated by 80% bad news and the rising insecurities in this country..
the worst is dt the president is saying or doing nothing about it and they all looks like a norm to an average Nigerian....how did we get here?

Pierocash:
don't digress the point,that isnt the point here.

I responded to a comment by letting him know that sorcery and witchcraft is practiced in western world just as it is in Africa .

Back to your point of Africans not winning world cup with all the juju.

That points the same fact that our African juju hasn't reached their own level. Is Lukaku an African? Or you think it is only Lukaku that uses it,it shows to tell you that there are many more of them into fetish practices too. Na who em own strong pass na em dey win

brosss abeg stop all these imaginations...lukaku using it changes nothing because it's d same with a normal man meeting a herbalist to Gv him get rich lucky ring n believes it will work..
I dnt want to drag dis matter long but no matter d kinda high juju or voodoo dt lukaku or any African player uses, THEY CAN NEVER REACH D LEVEL OF CR7 N MESSI....it jazz de work, mk dm reach mk we see..

now experienced..

well deserved....Enrique said placing him in the squad n not including him would bring reactions because ramos hardly trains with d national team for a year due to injury...
he choosed not to select him n he gat his reasons but replacing him was laporte made sense.
the main issue was him selecting 24 players instead of 26..

Pierocash:
you know nothing.

Didn't you watch a match where a Brazilian footballer had to confront an opposition player on the pitch of play ,accusing the player of planting voodoo at the back of the post.

Haven't you heard of European players accusing each other of using voodoo?

What of Lukaku accused of same in Manchester United. Even of recent Ibrahimovic accused same Lukaku in Milan of same thing.

Why do you think a player doing healthily well in one club will move to another club and be plagued with inexplicable injury,what do you think is the cause?

Nigerians have this ignorant mentality that spiritual practices don't exist in western world,fat lie.

They practice sorcery ,and witchcraft in Europe just as it is practised in Africa.

Don't let CNN deceive you

mr professor....so with all our juju and vodoo that dominate almost all poor African countries, where were the juju men n herbalist when d whites came to colonize us n force religion on us??
whats the result of our potent jazz n juju in African football dt only Cameroon av reached d semis since world cup started..
or ar u telling me dt its too difficult for a smaller country dt av no hope I winning world cup invest more in juju to win it?

TarOrfeeek:
They want to win the match.

Match way Amadioha carry Enyimba straight win


You want to cut Amadioha bet slip abi?

make d amadioha Carry naija straight win against Spain or France for world cup semi and make u go borrow n stake naija to win since e sure for amadioha..
my guy, such dnt work in football, d easiest u can do is inflicting the opponent key players with sickness or injuries n dts still not dt easy

still dnt believe this juju thing in football because if it really exists, Africans would dominate world cup n ballon d or awards..
made me remember dt story of an African team going to the world cup with some herbalist n still left without a point..
voodoo is all in our heads n may exist bt not in football...if city play dis eyimba in aba n even if them plant all the juju in d whole of aba, city go flog them both halves because they dnt bliev in it..

temitope27:
If not that Ibrahimovic didn't play some match due to covid-19, injury and suspension, ac millan would av won the title, Ibrahimovic is truly a football god

sure but cut him some slack because ibra is 39 n i haven't seen any player at such age playing n leading attack in a top club in Europe..
I dnt even think cr7 n messi would still be thinking about playing in UCL at such age bcoz they maybe on retirement plan in a small club in their country at dt age..

kenzysmith:
To me IBRAdacabra is the real king came to Milan met then struggling pick them from 12 to Europa, this season took them to uefa champions league . IBRA has my respect he did something messi and Rinaldo might not do the whole of Milan should accord IBRA has their king

no need to argue much...IBRA is d one and only god and king of Milan...lukaku jus won a title n his making noise..
IBRA won league titles with both clubs in Milan n he deserves the crown more than lukaku..
lukaku should give ibra more respect..

seems like a joke to me bcoz lukaku is about to start what he can't finish..
IBRA won the title in both clubs in Milan n deserve to be called the king of Milan.
lukaku jus won a league title n making noise when IBRA have won league title in all top leagues in Europe meaning anything lukaku av done IBRA have already done it better..
am expecting an epic reply from IBRA soon...I remember bk then in mls when asked about how he feels about vela winning player of the year in mls, ibra said " when I was in his age n on the peak of my career, I won trophies in all top countries in Europe and vela should be ashamed dt during his peak he is in mls competing with a 38yr old legend"..

Manaty2nice:
[Baba... Which Bank Account You dey Use... We Are On This Asper This Matter... We meuvvvvv... quote author=paulolee post=102005484]I have something more than GOLD...seriously I pity anybody dts living his life to make a woman happy..
baba jus flex urs to the fullest n make urself happy before u reason ur family too..
if getting married is all about making a woman happy, i would stay single n flex my life a happy man

boss na gtb o...mk i dm my details, u wan show ur gee love??

Bigdik70inch2:
Well.......u might be partially right but then I still don't think Madrid is way better than present PSG...........

Madrid is issa shadow of itself jux past glory nothing more.............

Infact.......i don't see madrid making it to semi final for the next 3 season ...........considering the ages of their players.........
Benzema.... 33yrs
Modric......35yrs
Ramos..... 35yrs
Isco.....29
Casemiro....29
Carvajal......29
Nacho.....31
Hazard...... 30
Too much tired legs bro......

yea bro...m on same news live on air n mbappe jus confirmed dt he would sign a new 5 year improved deal with paris because he loves the "project" and would like to continue the "project"....we all know dt d project means more cash..
maybe he would join madrid in his late twenties or early thirties like harzard..

I like gtb the more bt hate first bank, access n eco bcox they are frustrating..

was keeping one crush n very loyal n faithful to her playing the simp role perfectly till I entered n started flexing nairaland...
now I gat no bea again but many female friends thinking dt am their serious gee...
thanks seun...thanks nairalanders and the person dt propounded dt redpills skul of though..

to exam center with love..the gee no wan hear story o..