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Ngozi123:
It has now been revealed that the Premier of the Western Region who died alongside Ironsi was deliberately assassinated due to his alleged involvement in that coup. It is said that he personally trained many of the main players in that coup. The coup plotists had intended to put Awolowo in power. He may not have had any direct involvement but may have been involved indirectly.

Igbo people have been carrying this blame for decades and have suffered because of it. It's an injustice of the highest order.

Please don't take Yoruba people serious.
That Fajuiyi lies have since been debunked.
They needed the lie to be able to form alliance with the North.
Because how else can they justify forming alliance with the North who killed a Western region military governor in Yorubaland?
They had to paint him as a Martyr who died because of an "Ibo man".
It's always the fault of Ibo man.😃

https://www.nairaland.com/8350184/curious-case-fajuiyithe-falsehood-role/1

hatchy:
Peter Mba is also working tirelessly for Enugu State.

Our only problem is the coven he chose to join. Therefore, we have joined our hands in prayers to caste the spirit of the witches and wizards coven in APC out of him. Let the spirit of his former party continue to possess him until he finishes his tenure.......

Ameeeeeeeen!!!!!

Some of you are willing slaves and irredeemable.
How exactly is Mbah working?
Same man that looted Enugu blind with Chimaroke?

OredoPikin2:
Obi will not contest
Jonathan is coming back
Obi is just a distraction so attention wont be on GEJ
Obi will be GEJ campaign director and watch everyone queue behind them.
you guys will be beaten so badly in this game u think u know how to play.

No Igbo man is going to vote for GEJ.
We would rather APC continue and sink the whole country than vote for GEJ.
GEJ have not repaid back the support Ndiigbo gave to him in 2010, 2011, and 2015, infact he subtly joined APC to thwart Obi in 2023.

If Obi doesn't run in 2027, Ndiigbo will focus on doing a clean up job in our states and let Tinubu coast to victory..
We will wait out Nigeria eventual death.
We will be fine.

Perfectbeing:
Tell me how Obi won the 2023 election when he didn't get any significant votes in core Northern States which have the major voting strength.
His votes was swallowed in Kano, Kaduna, Katsina, Kebbi etc.
Yes Obi won Lagos, but his margin was infinitesimally small. Less than 10k votes above Tinubu.
So how was that going to win him the election?

Also, as for the 1979 election, Awolowo won Lagos (the then capital) with over 82% votes.
So why will you say he had no path to victory?

PS;
I hope you're smart enough to understand my last screenshot?

But Tinubu is not from the North. It's obvious he rigged elections and numbers from the North.
The North had a candidate in the election in the person of Atiku.
The dynamics are not same with 1979!

Winning Lagos alone was never going to be enough when Shagari easily won the North and parts of SS.

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Perfectbeing:
So Ibos actually believe PitObi won the election in 2023?
How would that be possible? Where will Obi get the votes to offset the Northern numbers?
Madness.

Obi won Abuja and Lagos where the most civilised voters in Nigeria are domiciled and the most cosmopolitan parts of Nigeria.

Tell me exactly how you thought Awolowo won an election where Shagari was representing Arewa, Zik the Igbo and Awolowo the Yorubas.
Where would Awolowo have gotten to votes to offset the ones from the North?

How was Shagari rigged?
So Yorubas actually believed Awolowo won the election in 1979?
How would that be possible? Where will Awolowo get the votes to offset the Northern numbers?
Madness.

Junior66:
This your example makes no sense. The Portuguese and the Spanish were original the same people, it is just geographical separation that changed their languages slightly. A Spaniard that has never heard Portuguese language in his life before will understand much of it once he listens to it. They both understand themselves to a very large extent similar to the way Igbos and Ikweres understand each other. The only difference is that the Portuguese and Spaniards have the same origin.

Even these your Ikweres likely have the same origin with the Igbos. At least you can't prove that they don't.

I'm an Igala observer from Kogi State.

Spanish and Portuguese languages are pidgin Latin languages.
The indigenous people of Spain and Portuguese were colonized by the Romans, and since most of them are not educated and couldn't learn standard Roman language, the commoners formed their own versions of Roman language by infusing local words and nuances to official Roman language, a bit like Nigerians did with English language by infusing local words to English to form our Nigerian pidgin English.
You notice that Pidgin English spoken in Nigeria is not same as Sierra Leone or Liberia.

That's how Portuguese and Spanish language evolved.
Both are rooted in Roman colonialism.
The scenario is not same as Igbo and Ikwerre.

Criminalgoment:
Norsemen anye O,vikings Mikasa,I sight men with the Norsemen Barrett on that picture,you can also see egede there too,but not eiye,Eiye is not our identity, that is the only major frat you won't find in south east


Proudly a Norseman

IPOB and criminality are 5 and 6.
I'm not surprised you are a cultist.
Majority of IPOB people in Igboland are cultists and criminal elements too.
Iko unu ga-eju.

Pentagon007:
On this list the South West dominate with 32 names against South East with 24 names while in the Paralympic list, the south East dominate with 25 names out of a total of 48 names. By the way, we can check for other years too and I believe it will show clearly that South East is dominant.

You have time for him.
The only medal that matters, the Olympics gold medal..
Only an Igbo has won an individual gold medal for Nigeria.
That alone beats whatever anyone has done anywhere else, local or international.

What an Irony coming from a man who gatecrashed on SE turn to have a shot at the presidency after Buhari, knowing that his SW already had 8 full years of presidency with OBJ and 8 full years of VP with Osibanjo.

cn401:
Have you been to Enugu brother? Not to belittle what HE Otti is accomplishing. But none has surpassed HE Mbah's work ethic

Have you seen how much debt the thief called Mbah is stockpiling for Enugu state?

Enugu has always been beautiful, it has nothing to do with the crook Peter Mbah.

Those who sit on justice and equity while promoting injustice, will cry in the future, because there will never be peace without equity and your country will never amount to anything this way.

jaxin119:
Without reading the post I definitely know that Anambra will top the list. Back then when I was in Calabar, my Anambra friends returned home to write JAMB and WAEC and they all made excellent grades through malpractice. Unfortunately most of them graduated with poor grades from the university because of limited rooms for malpractice in the university.

You are just a hater, Anambra is millions of light years away from your Cross River in academics and any other aspect of human endeavours.
That's why Anambra has Chinua Achebe, Chimamanda Adichie, etc all world class academic giants and your Cross River has none.

Pickieox:
Two chaps had 370

I was about posting this.

Obaofaba:
Yoruba amaka!!!

Silent achievements is their core values.

Nigeria is blessed to have them.

You are already blowing the trumpet, yet saying "silent achievers" what an Irony.
A people who constantly claim to be "the most educated" and scream same from rooftops are claiming to be "silent" at same time.
Maybe "silent" has a different meaning in Yoruba language from the English meaning.
Yoruba and silence are two words that can never meet.

stanluiz:
https://punchng.com/2027-im-not-returning-to-villa-ill-campaign-with-remi-tinubu-patience-jonathan/

Cc. Pazienza, coldie. This is a woman that was begging us in Enugu during 2011 presidential election to vote for her husband by saying that SE and SS are one, now the fat pig is doing U- turn.

We are just watching and observing. That nonsense that happens In 2011 won't repeat itself anymore.

By now Ndiigbo should have learnt our lessons. Afflictions will never arise a second time.
That's why I was laughing at the plan to have GEJ run again with a Northern VP.
I bet the reasoning behind such stupid thoughts is that they assume Igbos to be a fo.oolish people. They expect a GEJ who never lifted a finger to pay back support he got from SE when Obi contested, to vote for GEJ again.
These people really don't rate us, they probably think we are mentally challenged.

aljharem:
I am happy with this. I have told bini people they will lose everything with this their anti-yoruba ways only.

Bini is and has always been yoruba that is why we Lagos Island people accepted them.

Now this imaginary empire they are claiming will be their downfall eventually

How can one lose what was never theirs?
And by th way, who told you that Igbanke is a property to be won or lost?

waternogatenemy:
Igbanke people should also change their name back to Igboakiri.


They are the people who answer Igbo in their name before it was changed after the civil war, time to return it back.

Igbanke was never at any point called Igbo akiri, how many times will you guys be corrected on this?

Coldie:
I laugh at ur post, I don’t want to talk much, I would repeat to every igbo out there concerning the igbanke matter, stand down.

A word is enough for the wise.

A lot of u fighting for igbanke are not well travelled, or are just based in the east or have limited exposure.

I know that igbanke situation and ikwerre situation is very similar, if u like put ur head on the line for them.

They claim to be of ika, a group that for decades have been saying they are bini and not igbo. Me personally know what I have done concerning this matter. U say we are begging people, how exactly does my post mean beg?

Me and u who is begging?

Is it me that’s stating history as it is or u that’s begging a group that has said they are not igbos to be igbo?

Igbanke kings came out and said they are Igbos, they changed the servitude and slavery Enogie for noble Igbo titles of Obi and Eze.
That's enough justification to stand by them.
Igbo Unification is a far greater and noble cause than Peter Obi political ambitions.

You want to give away Igbanke to Bini in order to ensure they vote for Obi, that's a stupeed move, you don't cede your people to slavery on altar of uncertain political support, the Bini have no agreement whatsoever with you that they will support Obi coming elections, you are only setting yourself up for failure with such move. Tomorrow when APC rig there with the basic organic support they have in Edo , you start crying "betrayal" as usual, you don't learn.

Politics is a game of numbers, those who balkanized Igboland post civil war are not stupid, they know what they did and continue doing.
To rise again we must focus on the foundation, the foundation is Igbo reunification, it will give us the spring to do better in national politics.

Igbanke will be brought back to the fold, Bini can keep their votes, Peter political ambitions is a battle I'm willing to sacrifice on the altar of Igbo unification.

Streetinvestor2:
The problem is that these people you mentioned are never voted by majority of our people
The other corrupt side always help them get to the governor position to use them to just get the 25% they need in future. I can say that with all baldness for my state imo.
Then for the game you said.It is always possible to hold the north for an agreement. The SW is always snake with double face.It is always impossible to hold them to any agreement. The past history of nigeria has always shown it.

We need to start having that double face too.
The North or any one else must and should never be guaranteed of our votes.
Our votes must remain uncertain until last minute.
No fanatic support for anyone.

Streetinvestor2:
The problem is that these people you mentioned are never voted by majority of our people
The other corrupt side always help them get to the governor position to use them to just get the 25% they need in future. I can say that with all baldness for my state imo

We can stop them if we bring the energy we bring to FG elections to governor elections.
I know many "useless" Igbos of Imo origin who campaigned and voted for Uzodimma re election in Imo, one of them is even a lecturer, a Ph.D holder, we were close friends in the University, same with the thief Peter Mbah.
These people had organic votes from our people upon which they built their rigging machinery.
It's self denial to claim that they were imposed on us by outsiders..
Our people played a role. I know Nkanu friends who out of parochial sentiments voted for Mbah even when they knew he is a thief that helped Chimaroke launder the state money.
We can and should do better going forward.

Streetinvestor2:
You too get sense.This has been my advocacy. The SW has played this game all this yrs.They portray igbos as bad while aligning with north for economic and political gain.
The only option as it stands now is igbos not to get deceived again that anything happening in 2027 is for southern gain.It will be for SW gain simply. The SE should align with north in 2027 and have proper agreement if possible written for what it is in it for SE and beyond. Obi most not even contest. Let play the politics as they have been playing it.The north can have the president while we have major economic gain for SE.What is SE gaining with SW as president beside SW dominance in all government sector and additional monopoly to lagos so that we will keep increasing thr agr.The 2031 election to SE should not be te rubbish about southern president. It should be about our economic and political interest and development. The last southern president was gej which we championed was never seen as sacrifice.
I repeat the SE should align with north in 2027. and forget that scam they claim southern president or unity.The north remains our best partner in everything beside religion difference and intolerance. That we can live with as a people who travel over all the world

I think we should keep our cards close to our chests.
Not be quick to throw support to the North, because if you do so, SW will panick and the North will use us to get favourable negotiations from Tinubu second tenure and leave us in the lurch while they wait their turn in 2031.
All the talks from the North about Alliance with SE for all I care is their way of trying to exert pressure on Tinubu to give them positions.
As long as Tinubu don't see us truly throwing support for the North, he will call off their bluffs and maintain his Yorubacentric government.
But if we rush and throw our support to the North, we only make ourselves pawns in the Northern chest game with the SW, Tinubu will respond by handing the North favourable posts in his second tenure and they will shield their swords, they will use us to settle their difference and wait for 2031.


The right way is to not throw support to North, keep our cards to our chests, just stay ambivalent , No support for any of them, let them battle it with Tinubu, let's see who is coming out on top first, just keep playing a long game, once a winner emerges close to the finish line, you rush and congratulate him and close ranks with him to crush the loser.


Try and consolidate our home base, sack thieves like Peter Mbah, Uzodimma, and incompetent fellows like Nwifuru from governor positions in our region.
The energy we expend on Presidential elections, let's bring it to play in our governorship elections, get Igbo nationalist, pragmatic, altruistic and competent hands to power in our states.

Zik played similar politics in 1979 and 1983.
We must do same again.

No support for any non Igbo group or person, just keep our block votes for ourselves, then wait for the winner at the finish line and quickly close ranks with him, no antagonism, no drive whatsoever to cry over the winner being a bad choice for Nigerian progress,just play a long game plan, let Nigeria continue going down, the rest don't care, so why should we care?
Something like this.

DMerciful:
The reason Nigeria has not totally fallen bellow disrepair is because of the tendency of Igbos to insist on justice and fairness.

When free, fair and credible elections come to Nigeria, Igbos will have the upper hand

Nnaa, Nigeria will never evolve to have credible elections, not even the west want that for Nigeria, just as the rest of Nigerians don't want it as well.

It will do us good to work with what is available than on fantasies ( credible elections).

Agbegbaorogboye:
You still don't get it do you
APC presently controls 2 out of 5 states in SE. Obi's LP controls only 1. If you're not fanatical enough to deliver all your states to your own kinsman why do you accuse others of not being fanatical enough for you?
The SS states gave Obi a win despite the fact that his party did not control any state there. Why do you now accuse them of not being fanatical enough?

LP controlled no state in SE, yet Obi got 90% plus votes in SE, why couldn't APC and co rig in SE?
It's simple, you need foundational support to rig.

If the same condition existed in SS states, then Obi would get 90% plus votes there like GEJ got in SE.

As for your write up about APC controlling states in SE, what does that have to do with our discussion here, if anything they buttress my point.

Thank you.

Shattuck:
this is where you are wrong when you talk about ancestral land hope you don't mean 50-100 years occupation, esan, etsako those are people who have ancestral land, the local govt they occupy is one of the ancient towns in Benin, I don't know much about the present issue on ground but to say igbanke land is ancestral means you know little about the issue on ground.

You are talking nonsense.
Igbanke are in their ancestral land.
You better mind yourselves.
Your Oba will not be spared if you continue this provocative expansionist action in 2025.

Let Igbanke people be, they are not in your Bini land, they are just sharing a state with you by virtue of state land demarcation.

stanluiz:
So you are suggesting that we should be voting for Apc In presidential election starting from 2027 ?

Nigeria can't be saved and no Nigerian group is interested in saving Nigeria, Ndiigbo should wake up

Ndiigbo should do whatever it takes to place us back in National politics, I mean whatever! I don't care.
This way we are in a strong political position to negotiate our escape from this failed British colonial estate.

That's my point. The Greeks fought against Troy for years outside the walls of Troy, and even with all their mighty men of valour in place, they couldn't harm Troy.
Not until they found a way to get themselves into Troy by building the Trojan horse.
We have numbers, we mustn't be the president, but if we are open enough to play the Machiavellian politics, we can get things done by playing our cards ruthlessly with no regard for the future or betterment of Nigeria,only thing that should matter to us in this phase is our interests, not wrong or right! Just our interests.
This is how the rest of the country have been playing their own politics, it's about time we learned too.

Antivirus92:
for me, there are better things for us to discuss than Nigerian politics. Our lagging behind in the Nigerian politics is not only because of how we play politics but on the lack of support from other regions. The north are still looking for that igboman they can trust, which maybe Jesus Christ when he comes down from heaven since they couldn't pick any reliable person of igbo origin since time immemorial.

Let's focus on our business, education, development and expansion.

They can keep their politics for all I care

The last sentence is a statement of a man incapable of strategizing.
A defeatist mentality..
I myself I am anti Nigeria and pro Igbo independence.
But if at this point you haven't realised that to retrieve Igboland out of Nigeria successfully, we have to find a way around national politics, then you are not rational.

No Nigerian group like each other. Ijaw is fighting Itsekiri, Ijaw are dragging Gelegele with Bini, Yorubas have issues with North currently, within North there are issues too.
So saying no one supports you is funny, no one owe you support.
A wise people strategize and find ways to get things done.
A finished people remain static, refusing to adapt to a changing environment while pointing fingers at everything else.
You can't ignore politics, especially in a centralised setting like Nigeria.
Your enemies will wake up one day and enact a policy that will wipe away all the stupid economic benefits you think you amassed in a blink of an eye, if you make noise, soldiers will be deployed in your zone..
Some of you are so out of touch with reality, it's mind boggling.

Elusive001:
This man go and rest.

You have absolutely no say where igbos are. We don't play politics. We don't support corruption, dishonesty, evil, etc. It will never be. We will never oga.

We vote our conscience. Instead of us to support evil, we abstain. We don't and we won't support evil, corruption, etc.

We cannot be like others.

Bla bla bla bla bla!

Zero wisdom.
Just open mouth waaa!

No Ako, no Uche.

Natural selection is built on adaptation. If Ndiigbo don't adapt, it will get uglier for us.
People like you with empty chest beating Messianic complex are a bane for the Igbo.

You don't support this you don't support that, so who were the Otimkpu that supported PDP to plunder Abia state from 1999-2023? Who were those singing radio jingles for OUK, Ikpeazu and T.A Orji? They are not Igbos right?
Who are those that helped the Supreme court governor, a man with past history of being involved in fraud business, win re election in Imo, those who campaigned for him all over 27 LGAs of Imo and helped him rig himself back? They are Yorubas?

Peter Mbah helped Chimaroke launder Enugu money between 1999-2003, until EFCC caught them and forced them to part with some of the money.
That Peter Mbah is a thief that stole from the state is no secret, he doesn't even have an NYSC certificate.
But guess who campaigned and voted for him? Fellow Igbos!
Oh he rigged? Maybe, but he had organic supporters thousands of them upon which the rigging was carried out. So you can spare us the talk of being saints and voting for purity, these and that.
You guys take yourselves too seriously. You don't even see or hear how hollow you sound with these self gravitating righteous praises.


You foolishly give yourself a toga of self righteous, make a clown of yourselves in national politics trying to play saints and then turn around and start crying and accusing others of betraying you like you had any agreement forehand with them?

Lol!

Elusive001:
Bros, go and rest. No one in his right senses will vote for Buhari or Tulumbu. We don't want t status quo.

We are not brought up to support corruption, incompetence, etc.

No matter how hungry a lion is, it does not eat grass. Igbos DO NOT support anything or anyone bad or evil. It is in our DNA bros. We are not like your people. Anything does not go for us.

We don't follow herd mentality.

Go and learn about the Igboman.

You are an emotional person, only a fool keep doing same thing and expect different results.
You are not going to save Nigeria, because the rest of the country are not interested in saving the country.
If you continue playing this sentimental politics you will continue to fall behind, I can assure you.
A wise people will reassess and readapt their mentality and methods to fit their environment.
A foolish people will keep forcing their environment to adapt to their fixed mentality.

You and you ilks in Igboland are looking like the later and to be sincere, you wall in the majority which is why the group is going to suffer for a long time.
You know nature is harsh. Life Lessons will be repeated as long as possible with each session harsher than the previous until you learn the lesson, then you can make progress.
This will be the case for Ndiigbo.

I wish you all the best.

Agbegbaorogboye:
But you accused Rivers people of not being fanatical enough
You accused Cross River of not giving Obi a wide enough margin ditto Edo
All the while you couldn't help GEJ to retain his seat
I don't understand why you think others should go beyond what you claim you did for them

We gave GEJ 90% plus vote, we were so fanatical about our support for him that it was impossible to rig him out in SE.
We knew he was the better candidate for the country and we went out of our to support him full throttle. Whether our votes were enough for him to win is immaterial, the most important thing was that we delivered 90% plus for him.

When it was Obi on the ballot, everyone who is sincere knows he was the best candidate available, but did he get the same support we gave to GEJ from minority zones?
Nope!

You know why? Because they don't play right or wrong politics, they play politics of interests.
Bayelsa voted APC, Rivers went to APC( you can claim it was rigged all you want, but that wouldn't happen if APC didn't have a baseline support there), Akwaibom voted PDP, Akpabio job was to make sure Obi doesn't win the state and he delivered. You know why it happened? Because the people have their own interests to protect.

So yeah. Ndiigbo will have to learn to play same politics going forward. The era of free Igbo votes based on right or wrong should be in the past, you could still be right but once your victory doesn't put us in strong position, we shouldn't be seen supporting you.
That's the game the rest of Nigeria have been playing and it's about time Ndiigbo play along too.