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just finished my MSc here in london, thinkin of relocatin to canada to work, could someone hint me on the job market in canada?

am also thinking of relocating to canada, could some tell me how life is generally in canada?

@elrazur

Try and stick to the issues

@elrazur

This is a clear case of character assassination, you are yet to come up with evidence to back up your claim. This is a clear case of denial, and it really beats my imagination. Judging by your comments you seem to be neither here nor there, and that my friend are the hallmarks of someone who doesnt really have "indepth" knowledge of the subject matter. You should strive to take your stands on issues whether its pro or against, it gives your critics an idea of your stands. However, I understand the fact that u may not be able to see my view point, everybody has different views on different issues.

If you mean I am calling it as it is, then yeah assassination I guess. Bottom line is that my observation about your thread and how it seem to be inside the territory of a conspiracy theorist is bang on target. I suppose you need me to post links of thread where you have twisted facts to back up and present an idea you back up? Haiti and the US responsibility comes to mind.


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Now back to your claim that the daily mail is not a credible source of information, what about the following

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monthly_report/sppi_monthly_co2_report_july.html

http://www.ireport.com%252Fdocs%252FDOC-380884&h=28183ff8fda674d5cbd01f0d5a6692ba&ref=share

and to your final comments, what do you think were the stands of china and india during the copahengen summit? I need you to answer this question!!!

Please, lets try and keep the debate civil. Character assassination is not in our best interest. I trust you will understand

Again hallmarks of someone who will twist issues at hand. My gripe is that your original statement in regards to how the Western world is behind this global warming and climate change malarkey is just inaccurate. Reason? I have stated that there are argument on both sides i.e to suggest it is man-made. I cited the greenhouse effects as one prominent example that appears to back this up. Then on the other hand, I stated that there are probably not enough data to paint a complete picture. These are statement of facts. To present one as a fact over the other is false. I think that is the point I have made to you and you seem to not understand this.

Also while your statements suggested that it is all a conspiracy by the western world, I merely asked you about other nations who are outputting all sort of Green house gases or are the most polluting such as China, India etc. These nation clearly do not fall into definition of "Western world" like you are suggesting. I noted this have gone unanswered and instead like most conspiracy theorist would do, you try to twist the point and ask me about Copenhagen [which is not what I am talking about].


Just to summarise it all. Your original statement is inaccurate. I already gave reasons as to why they are so.
Your constant dig at Western nations about what you perceived as some "master plan" tags you firmly as a conspiracy theorist.
Finally, when it comes to global warming and climate change, there are very good argument from both camps i.e those who think it is man made or just nature. None of these arguments are better than the other and there is no single proof that it is all a plan by the western world like you claimed.

Also while your statements suggested that it is all a conspiracy by the western world, I merely asked you about other nations who are outputting all sort of Green house gases or are the most polluting such as China, India etc. These nation clearly do not fall into definition of "Western world" like you are suggesting. I noted this have gone unanswered and instead like most conspiracy theorist would do, you try to twist the point and ask me about Copenhagen [which is not what I am talking about].

I never suggested china and india were western countries, check my previous post for clarification!!!, Its obvious you dont know the stands they took at the summit.

if you mean I am calling it as it is, then yeah assassination I guess. Bottom line is that my observation about your thread and how it seem to be inside the territory of a conspiracy theorist is bang on target. I suppose you need me to post links of thread where you have twisted facts to back up and present an idea you back up? Haiti and the US responsibility comes to mind

why would you result to character assassination? Its a cheap way to get attention, last time I checked issues are made to tackled and not the character of an individual. I have never attacked your character and dont intend to do so. We are civilised, lets act like one. Lets focus on the issue here

Just to summarise it all. Your original statement is inaccurate. I already gave reasons as to why they are so.
Your constant dig at Western nations about what you perceived as some "master plan" tags you firmly as a conspiracy theorist.
Finally, when it comes to global warming and climate change, there are very good argument from both camps i.e those who think it is man made or just nature. None of these arguments are better than the other and there is no single proof that it is all a plan by the western world like you claimed.

[quote][/quote]you really think so?

maybe you should watch this clip

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4860344067427439443&ei=VLB5S7eVCZnC-Qb62dDZBw&q=the+great+global+warming+swindle&hl=en#

The difference between us, is that I provide proof to back up my claim, but u simply attack my character!!!

No. You sir are the definition of a Conspiracy theorist. I suppose it is coincidence that your "enlightened" thread seem to have issues with Western world?

What do you call facts? Like I said, you post nothing but factions [a bit of fact mixed with massive lies]. The daily-mail is not the most non-biased source in the UK. Go and check out their head lines and news stories on immigration in the UK. They do nothing but misreport issues or approach it from a sensational point of journalism.

A chart is nothing but a diagram. Anyone can put that together to give credibility. Jeez.

I have told you before, no one really knows. Having said that, there are points on both sides to suggest it may be man-made or nature taking its course. To just starting claiming anything else is just absurd.

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and to your final statement

What do you would happen to developing countries(including nigeria) if the proposal at the copahengen summit is duly implemented?

Again, this have nothing to do with the western world. You really do not know how to debate or present your point I think. Your original point was that it is all a "plan" by western world to stop poorer nations etc from growing or something along those lines. Yet, you ignore people like China, India etc Surely this people are not western world or are they?

Look, it is all well and good for anyone to think something in their head, but it do not necessarily make it a fact or a good point to debate on in a public forum.

Here, drop your need to blame the western world from earthquake in haiti, down to Yar'dua's illness and perhaps you may be able to debate better and people take you serious? Just a thought. But I guess the thought of going against a widely held views is good fun for you.

@elrazur

This is a clear case of character assassination, you are yet to come up with evidence to back up your claim. This is a clear case of denial, and it really beats my imagination. Judging by your comments you seem to be neither here nor there, and that my friend are the hallmarks of someone who doesnt really have "indepth" knowledge of the subject matter. You should strive to take your stands on issues whether its pro or against, it gives your critics an idea of your stands. However, I understand the fact that u may not be able to see my view point, everybody has different views on different issues.

Now back to your claim that the daily mail is not a credible source of information, what about the following

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/monthly_report/sppi_monthly_co2_report_july.html

http://www.ireport.com%252Fdocs%252FDOC-380884&h=28183ff8fda674d5cbd01f0d5a6692ba&ref=share

Again, this have nothing to do with the western world. You really do not know how to debate or present your point I think. Your original point was that it is all a "plan" by western world to stop poorer nations etc from growing or something along those lines. Yet, you ignore people like China, India etc Surely this people are not western world or are they?

and to your final comments, what do you think were the stands of china and india during the copahengen summit? I need you to answer this question!!!

Please, lets try and keep the debate civil. Character assassination is not in our best interest. I trust you will understand

How does this remove the tag of a conspiracy theorist on you? Majority of your thread are about how the powers of the world are always up to no good and it makes you feel special to think you are a non-conformist with the view held by many isnt? If you ask me, those are hall marks of a classical conspiracy theorist. But, again, carry on. This place will be boring without your *Factions.


*A droplet of fact mixed thing 10 buckets of fiction.


In reply to your original post, I will suggest you read up on it again. The truth of the matter is no one really knows. There are evidence suggesting that it may be man-made and there appears to be evidence to the contrary. For example, the Green house effect is a very good example of how it may be possibly man-made [deforestation springs to mind]. Yet on the other hand, the lack of enough data since the birth of the planet will suggest that we really do not know if this is man-made or not. [other reasons are cited, but am keeping it simple]. In the mean time, if you want to feel special by going against all common sense, please don't let me get in the way.


How this have anything to do with the Western world or powers of the world is beyond me.

@elrazur
I think a conspiracy theorist is one who comes up with information without the facts to back it up. On the other hand, in addition to the information I provide on this forum, I always back it up with facts. For example in the link I provided http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html It showed that scientist in charge of CRU at the UN, did not have sufficent data to back up their claim that global warming is man-made.

Subsequently I provided a chart with showed that the climate has been cooling since the early 2000's. I dont why it is diffcult to comprehend despite that fact the proof is used to back up the claim.

and to your final statement

How this have anything to do with the Western world or powers of the world is beyond me

What do you would happen to developing countries(including nigeria) if the proposal at the copahengen summit is duly implemented?

lol

The fact that the US has not been too keen in the past to cut down on sources of greenhouse gases should show you that your theory of 'western nations' is pretty flawed.

I always find it funny when you constantly insist that you aren't a conspiracy theorist. The lies of one man does not mean that there is no genuine threat of global warming. And why the burning need to turn climategAte into the failings ofseveral nations, instead of the sins of a few scientists?

@texapette

A few scientist?

for your information 30,000 scientist sued both the IPCC and al gore over this issue

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,337710,00.html
http://www.puppetgov.com/2009/07/09/weather-channel-founder-and-over-30000-scientists-sue-al-gore-for-fraud/

maybe he will

so you two.  if the website says in plain words what this weapon does.  please explain. does it shoot thunderbolts?  create hail?  produce rainstorms? what?  or is it the same device the us military has been working on since Andrew to break up hurricanes.  

this is a perfect example of what i mean.  you see the word "weapon" and automatically assume Armageddon without any information of what the device is, what it does, what it is capable of doing.  is there a possibility this could be used again our enemy's - yes but then again so could a common spoon.


you sit here and claim the us wanted to take over Haiti so they destroyed it?  what purpose would that serve?  before the Haitian earthquake only 15% of the population had steady employment.  building a Levi factory there would have been far more cost efficient and would have allowed for better terms and relations and we wouldn't have to worry about the millions in aid we are going to be sending them over the next 5+ years to rebuild.  besides the fact that for weeks now people have been protesting and chanting for the UN to leave and the us to stay alone.  oh wait i forgot- news reports are part of your conspiracy.

don't even get me started on your other conspiracies.

@agathmari

I understand how u feel, its not easy to come to terms with such information, its simply unimaginable. You may be asking yourself why would the US invade a poor country like haiti?. Its simply not possible.

But my dear if you must know, the US has constantly interfered and some cases "invaded" in the past. Inshort since the inception of haiti's independence in the 1800's the US had on several occasion to control their[b] resources[/b].

Like I said it might be difficult for you to come to terms with such information, but lets be objective and face facts(not conspiracy theory).

Look at the historical evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/americas/features/article_1526436.php/United-States-has-a-long-history-in-Haiti-Feature

http://www.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/wwi/88275.htm

@blacksta
why dont you stick to the issue?

MIGUEL HELFT
The New York Times
Febuary 14, 2010
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

When Google introduced Buzz — its answer to Facebook and Twitter — it hoped to get the service off to a fast start. New users of Buzz, which was added to Gmail on Tuesday, found themselves with a ready-made network of friends automatically selected by the company based on the people that each user communicated with most frequently through Google’s e-mail and chat services.
But what Google viewed as an obvious shortcut stirred up a beehive of angry critics. Many users bristled at what they considered an invasion of privacy, and they faulted the company for failing to ask permission before sharing a person’s Buzz contacts with a broad audience. For the last three days, Google has faced a firestorm of criticism on blogs and Web sites, and it has already been forced to alter some features of the service.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/13/technology/internet/13google.html?em

@proo212

Climate change isnt man-made as we have been made to believe. The sun is the singular most important factor responsible for climate change, not CO2 or greenhouse gases which accounts for less than 20% of atmospheric gases

@ezeuche

I am still waiting for your proof that climate change is man-made?

@ezeuche

hmmm, here we go again!!!

Please could you explain how climate change is man-made?

A few months ago, I brought this information to this forum, declaring that "global warming" and "climate change" was not man-made, and it was being masterminded by western countries to prevent and restrict the growth of developing countries. I was labelled a conspiracy theorist and anti-western individual. But I guess the truth is beginning to surface.

There has been no global warming since 1995

Jonathan Petre
Mail Online
February 14, 201
A D V E R T I S E M E N T

The academic at the centre of the ‘Climategate’ affair, whose raw data is crucial to the theory of climate change, has admitted that he has trouble ‘keeping track’ of the information.
Colleagues say that the reason Professor Phil Jones has refused Freedom of Information requests is that he may have actually lost the relevant papers.
Professor Jones told the BBC yesterday there was truth in the observations of colleagues that he lacked organisational skills, that his office was swamped with piles of paper and that his record keeping is ‘not as good as it should be

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html

@mystikal
"intelligently", if only you knew better!!!

@cyberfreak
if only you knew!!

Karl max was once said "Religion is the opium of the masses" and I think to a large degree he may have been right!!!

The only thing you seem to be good at is insulting people when you have been proven wrong.I have just posted a link to the united States Air Force website where it clearly states that they have a weather weapons system. Is that a conspiracy theory too?

Why are you in denial, the US AIR FORCE is telling you in plain simple English what they are capable of but you still want to remain blind, or are you saying the US Air force are liars too ? Or are the US Air force webmasters conspiracy theorists

@shoot2kill

I think its a case of choice, some people choose to be in "denial" even when evidence is brought to the doorstep, they will still deny and label you a "conspiracy theorist". I dont blame them one bit because they refuse to accept the fact that a weapon of such gravity can truly exist, to them its simply not possible. This is not a case of ignorance any longer, but a case of "denial".

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident".

@cyberfreak

exactly,I bet some people still think NWO is another conspiracy theory. lol

Right, did you not say you are NOT a conspiracy theorist? You haven no single proof what so ever that it is man made, yet you appear to be hell bent on posting information that is suggesting the US have a hand and it may have been man-made as per the earthquake [by your persistent linking of the HARPP to the incident]

Again refer back to my original post.

Sorry, I won't keep repeating myself and do not want to keep going round in circles. If you think the US are "probably" responsible or point blank saying it is the US, then that is your view point and at least not the FACT, so yeah we will leave it as that.

@elrazur
A wise man once said, when the head is off there is nothing anyone can do!!! I maintain the fact that I am not a conspiracy theorist. I have provided you with resources(refer to my previous post) as a proof of the existence of such a weapon capable of inflicting damage on a grand scale. You dismiss it as not being sufficient enough. Well, thats your view. I can only show u the door but I cant force you to enter.

H.A.A.R.P(earthquake weapon) does exist and there is a possibility that it may have been used on haiti(no conspiracy theory). To prove the existence of such a deadly weapon there is even a[b] patent[/b] for it in the US. Since you refused to read the book I recommended for you, below is an excerpt from the book written by two scientist who worked on the H.A.A.R.P project

Excerpt

"Thus, this invention provides the ability to put unprecedented amounts of power in the Earth's atmosphere at strategic locations and to maintain the power injection level particularly if random pulsing is employed, in a manner far more precise and better controlled than heretofore accomplished by the prior art, particularly by detonation of nuclear devices of various yields at various altitudes, "

", it is possible not only to interfere with third party communications but to take advantage of one or more such beams to carry out a communications network even though the rest of the world's communications are disrupted. Put another way, what is used to disrupt another's communications can be employed by one knowledgeable of this invention as a communication network at the same time."

", large regions of the atmosphere could be lifted to an unexpectedly high altitude so that missiles encounter unexpected and unplanned drag forces with resultant destruction."

"Weather modification is possible by, for example, altering upper atmosphere wind patterns by constructing one or more plumes of atmospheric particles which will act as a lens or focusing device.

, molecular modifications of the atmosphere can take place so that positive environmental effects can be achieved. Besides actually changing the molecular composition of an atmospheric region, a particular molecule or molecules can be chosen for increased presence. For example, ozone, nitrogen, etc., concentrations in the atmosphere could be artificially increased."

Begich found eleven other APTI Patents. They told how to make "Nuclear-sized Explosions without Radiation," Power-beaming systems, over-the-horizon radar, detection systems for missiles carrying nuclear warheads, electromagnetic pulses previously produced by thermonuclear weapons and other Star-Wars tricks. This cluster of patents underlay the HAARP weapon system.

Related research by Begich and Manning uncovered bizarre schemes. For example, Air Force documents revealed that a system had been developed for manipulating and disturbing human mental processes through pulsed radio-frequency radiation (the stuff of HAARP) over large geographical areas. The most telling material about this technology came from writings of Zbigniew Brzezinski (former National Security Advisory to U.S. President Carter) and J.F. MacDonald (science advisor to U.S. President Johnson and a professor of Geophysics at UCLA), as they wrote about use of power-beaming transmitters for geophysical and environmental warfare. The documents showed how these effects might be caused, and the negative effects on human heath and thinking.

The mental-disruption possibilities for HAARP are the most disturbing. More than 40 pages of the book, with dozens of footnotes, chronicle the work of Harvard professors, military planners and scientists as they plan and test this use of the electromagnetic technology. For example, one of the papers describing this use was from the International Red Cross in Geneva. It even gave the frequency ranges where these effects could occur -- the same ranges which HAARP is capable of broadcasting.

The following statement was made more than twenty-five years ago in a book by Brzezinski which he wrote while a professor at Columbia University:

"Political strategists are tempted to exploit research on the brain and human behavior. Geophysicist Gordon J.F. MacDonald, a specialist in problems of warfare, says accurately-timed, artificially-excited electronic strokes could lead to a pattern of oscillations that produce relatively high power levels over certain regions of the earth , in this way one could develop a system that would seriously impair the brain performance of very large populations in selected regions over an extended period"

" , no matter how deeply disturbing the thought of using the environment to manipulate behavior for national advantages, to some, the technology permitting such use will very probably develop within the next few decades."

In 1966, MacDonald was a member of the President's Science Advisory Committee and later a member of the President's Council on Environmental Quality. He published papers on the use of environmental control technologies for military purposes. The most profound comment he made as a geophysicist was, "the key to geophysical warfare is the identification of environmental instabilities to which the addition of a small amount of energy would release vastly greater amounts of energy." While yesterday's geophysicists predicted today's advances, are HAARP program managers delivering on the vision?

The geophysicists recognized that adding energy to the environmental soup could have large effects. However, humankind has already added substantial amounts of electromagnetic energy into our environment without understanding what might constitute critical mass. The book by Begich and Manning raises questions:

* Have these additions been without effect, or is there a cumulative amount beyond which irreparable damage can be done?
* Is HAARP another step in a journey from which we cannot turn back?
* Are we about to embark on another energy experiment which unleashes another set of demons from Pandora's box?

As early as 1970, Zbigniew Brzezinski predicted a "more controlled and directed society" would gradually appear, linked to technology. This society would be dominated by an elite group which impresses voters by allegedly superior scientific know-how. Angels Don't Play This HAARP further quotes Brzezinski:

"Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Technical and scientific momentum would then feed on the situation it exploits," Brzezinski predicted.

His forecasts proved accurate. Today, a number of new tools for the "elite" are emerging, and the temptation to use them increases steadily. The policies to permit the tools to be used are already in place. How could the United States be changed, bit by bit, into the predicted highly-controlled technosociety? Among the "steppingstones" Brzezinski expected were persisting social crises and use of the mass media to gain the public's confidence.

In another document prepared by the government, the U.S. Air Force claims: "The potential applications of artificial electromagnetic fields are wide-ranging and can be used in many military or quasi-military situations, Some of these potential uses include dealing with terrorist groups, crowd control, controlling breaches of security at military installations, and antipersonnel techniques in tactical warfare. In all of these cases the EM (electromagnetic) systems would be used to produce mild to severe physiological disruption or perceptual distortion or disorientation. In addition, the ability of individuals to function could be degraded to such a point that they would be combat ineffective. Another advantage of electromagnetic systems is that they can provide coverage over large areas with a single system. They are silent and countermeasures to them may be difficult to develop, One last area where electromagnetic radiation may prove of some value is in enhancing abilities of individuals for anomalous phenomena."

Do these comments point to uses already somewhat developed? The author of the government report refers to an earlier Air Force document about the uses of radio frequency radiation in combat situations. (Here Begich and Manning note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world.)

The United States Congressional record deals with the use of HAARP for penetrating the earth with signals bounced off of the ionosphere. These signals are used to look inside the planet to a depth of many kilometers in order to locate underground munitions, minerals and tunnels. The U.S. Senate set aside $15 million dollars in 1996 to develop this ability alone -- earth-penetrating-tomography. The problem is that the frequency needed for earth-penetrating radiation is within the frequency range most cited for disruption of human mental functions. It may also have profound effects on migration patterns of fish and wild animals which rely on an undisturbed energy field to find their routes.

As if electromagnetic pulses in the sky and mental disruption were not enough, T. Eastlund bragged that the super-powerful ionospheric heater could control weather.

Begich and Manning brought to light government documents indicating that the military has weather-control technology. When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres. If one government experiments with the world's weather patterns, what is done in one place will impact everyone else on the planet. Angels Don't Play This HAARP explains a principle behind some of Nikola Tesla's inventions -- resonance -- which affect planetary systems.

Right. On this particular issues, I think most people will prefer we stick to facts.

This is what you are saying, you have no fact or proof that the US is involve or even if it is man-made in anyway, yet you appear to be leaning in the direction that the US may "perhaps" "possibly" involve etc. How does that work?

If US have such weapons, how come it is not used on Iran to at least sink those nuclear sites? No? I think now we are really in the realms of conspiracy theory.

Finally, your facts are distorted. The so called Haarp weapon do not have the power to destroy or have the power out put of the destruction that struck in haiti. No one in this world have that single power. You are just simply trying to put together things that are totally unrelated.

You asked why the US have not used the H.A.A.R.P weapon on Iran, my response to that question is; do you think if they used it on them they will inform the public?  obviously they wont.


You stated that the information I provided is distorted, my response to that is; have you read the resources I provided?

i.e: Angels dont play this H.A.A.R.P by Dr Nick Begich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA

Read: De-classified information
HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.

" , at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.

Right. On this particular issues, I think most people will prefer we stick to facts.

This is what you are saying, you have no fact or proof that the US is involve or even if it is man-made in anyway, yet you appear to be leaning in the direction that the US may "perhaps" "possibly" involve etc. How does that work?

If US have such weapons, how come it is not used on Iran to at least sink those nuclear sites? No? I think now we are really in the realms of conspiracy theory.

Finally, your facts are distorted. The so called Haarp weapon do not have the power to destroy or have the power out put of the destruction that struck in haiti. No one in this world have that single power. You are just simply trying to put together things that are totally unrelated.

You asked why the US have not used the H.A.A.R.P weapon on Iran, my response to that question is; do you think if they used it on them they will inform the public? obviously they wont.


You stated that the information I provided is distorted, my response to that is; have you read the resources I provided?

i.e: Angels dont play this H.A.A.R.P by Dr Nick Begich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA

Read: De-classified information
HAARP will zap the upper atmosphere with a focused and steerable electromagnetic beam. It is an advanced model of an "ionospheric heater." (The ionosphere is the electrically-charged sphere surrounding Earth's upper atmosphere. It ranges between 40 to 60 miles above the surface of the Earth.)

Put simply, the apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope; antenna send out signals instead of receiving. HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

HAARP publicity gives the impression that the High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program is mainly an academic project with the goal of changing the ionosphere to improve communications for our own good. However, other U.S. military documents put it more clearly -- HAARP aims to learn how to "exploit the ionosphere for Department of Defense purposes." Communicating with submarines is only one of those purposes.

Press releases and other information from the military on HAARP continually downplay what it could do. Publicity documents insist that the HAARP project is no different than other ionospheric heaters operating safely throughout the world in places such as Arecibo, Puerto Rico, Tromso, Norway, and the former Soviet Union. However, a 1990 government document indicates that the radio-frequency (RF) power zap will drive the ionosphere to unnatural activities.

" , at the highest HF powers available in the West, the instabilities commonly studied are approaching their maximum RF energy dissipative capability, beyond which the plasma processes will 'runaway' until the next limiting factor is reached."

If the military, in cooperation with the University of Alaska Fairbanks, can show that this new ground-based "Star Wars" technology is sound, they both win. The military has a relatively-inexpensive defense shield and the University can brag about the most dramatic geophysical manipulation since atmospheric explosions of nuclear bombs. After successful testing, they would have the military megaprojects of the future and huge markets for Alaska's North Slope natural gas.

Looking at the other patents which built on the work of a Texas' physicist named Bernard Eastlund, it becomes clearer how the military intends to use the HAARP transmitter. It also makes governmental denials less believable. The military knows how it intends to use this technology, and has made it clear in their documents. The military has deliberately misled the public, through sophisticated word games, deceit and outright disinformation.

@ elrazur

Good, now that we have established that as a fact, dont you think its possible the US might have used it on haiti?
Personally, I [b]cannot [/b]confirm if the weapon was used on haiti or not, because I do not have sufficient evidence

However since I am aware of the existence of such a weapon, I wont totally dismiss it as a conspiracy theory

@ elrazur

Like I said in my previous post, am not a conspiracy theorist. I know the thought of the existence of such a weapon sounds really bizarre!!!
but trust me my dear this weapon does exist

Lets leave the realm of conspiracy theories and face facts; I would strongly recommend a book for you to read "Angels dont play this H.A.A.R.P" by Dr Nick Begich. He was a former atomic physicist who worked on the research facility in alaska.

You can also watch his presentation on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA where he clearly details how H.A.A.R.P can function as a weapon.

the fact remains earthquake weapons(H.A.A.R.P) do exist and that my friend is not a conspiracy theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA

the fact remains earthquake weapons(H.A.A.R.P) do exist and that my friend is not a conspiracy theory.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA

@elrazur
You are quite right, you raised a important issue. There are people who claimed there had been warning signs before the earthquake hit and the haitian authorities were duly notified.

However there exist H.A.A.R.P(earthquake weapon) which is also capable of inflicting the same damage as a natural earthquake. Now that my friend is a fact[b][/b] not conspiracy theory. Think about that for a second


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqepZBSVfCA