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achorladey:
Those who break the rules the most are those found in organized systems.

How many atheist or non religious people you see their crimes and criminality on pages of newspaper or media outlets.

Dey play ooo.

I just replied an answer given by MaxinDHouse concerning denominations that are organized

achorladey:
Has no correlation with we are discussing. Make proper use of illustration

There's time and place for everything

achorladey:
You don't own any religion in the first place. You met thousands of religion on earth. You subscribed to one possibly through your parents. Numerous things happens to religions of various kinds on daily basis and the world keeps revolving.

You dey whine me abi?

So they should use greed to spoil it abii

achorladey:
What does the event in Onitsha have got to do with Jesus asking people to preach publicly and in their homes?

The message Jesus gave was for only Anambra state, I don't understand

achorladey:
Let him answer now. It is not your question.

I will like MaxInDHouse to tell me which denomination is honourable between

1. Roman Catholic.

and

2. Jehovah’s witnesses.

Wetin concern me with denominations being honorable than others. Didn't your Paul warned you about I belong to this, I belong to that

He has already answered

achorladey:
Keep to it. I am not here to regiment how you think or make use of the Bible. What you can't accept don't force others to admit or accept. The golden rule is still alive and kicking.

One shoe size don't fit Achorladey and Peacecore. There must be individual differences. Our fingers are not equal. Variety is the spice of life. What some enjoy quietly is what others get fascinated by shouting.

Good for them then but nothing should happen to my religion
Onye mebia ya okwụa ụgwọ ya

MaxInDHouse:
Those two are ORGANIZED but it's sad that most people today don't want anything that's organized so that they can choose whatever they want to do!

Exactly!
The easiest way to act the way you like is to break away from an organized system.

I keep asking myself the importance of bbnaija to Nigerian youths that flood it

achorladey:
You cannot deny the various forms in which preaching of the good news had been carried out over years, centuries and millennium have had various impacts. Including using SLAVERY to advance the preaching work.

Shouting in public spaces or preaching in marketplace is giving you a lot to worry about.

You make me laugh. Stop chasing shadows and face reality. Some use slavery of others to advance preaching the good news you are lamenting about shouting in public places.

It's their business, let them continue but no longer in Onitsha market because Soludo has his eyes opened.

achorladey:
See this again and don't bother about what don't concern you......



The question is meant for the moniker mentioned not you. You cannot understand the question except you are MaxInDHouse. Let him respond.



Do Catholic preach publicly?
Yes

Does preaching publicly by Catholic have impact?
Yes

Do other religious denominations not catholic preach publicly even when they shout or people say they are shouting?

Yes

Do other religious denominations not catholic preach publicly even when they shout or people say they are shouting have impact?

Yes

Where is the conflict coming from?

You're a expecting the answer that will suit you from him nah knowing the agenda already but doesn't change the fact that some denominations are more honorable than others.

achorladey:
Jesus is bigger than Christianity. When they discredit Jesus what is Christianity compared to that ehn? Face reality and stop chasing shadows.


Like one person use to say leave wetin dem write for motor body make you enter motor as long as you reach your destination. You are creating unnecessary distractions to something far bigger than this.

See what Paul wrote here.

It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill. 16 The latter do so out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains. 18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

You see the shadows you are chasing instead of facing reality.

I don't want your ideology of letters. Follow the spirit. The spirit is the one setting people free not your ideology.

Ka gani?

I know where to go when I need the word. My ideology is not meant to be a shackle but a dignity restorator.

achorladey:
Your illustration is faulty that's why I termed it extremism.

Okay nah
I had a lecturer who only preached to us after his classes (sometimes oh) iff the next lecturer wasn't at sight. If he had abandoned the primary responsibility to preach, it would've wrong because that's a school not church.

achorladey:
Is your thread or topic created on Nairaland about offerings or preaching?

Face what you are up to and leave distractions.

Still the impact is next to...

achorladey:
Interesting

MaxInDHouse do you agree with Peacecore that who Jehovah's Witnesses made enemy mortal number 1 Roman Catholic(empire of false religion) preach correctly and in a respectful way like Jehovah's Witnesses?

I'm not talking about enemnity here . Catholic don't shout on the road and still cover a larger audience more than those that do. How is Roman Catholic an emperor of false religion?

achorladey:
Your point is to tell us preaching beside hospital bed in a medical facility is public preaching

That's why you use preaching beside hospital bed inside a medical facilities that are mostly build private as example to illustrate preaching publicly.


Peacecore you are not a toddler. Are you?

I use that illustration to demonstrate the fact that there's a right place for every event.

achorladey:
So deal with what you know and keep to it.

Your Bible tells you.....





That's what YOU YOU YOU YOU know. Keep it to yourself and don't generalise it because you don't like it.



To YOU YOU YOU YOU YOU.

You are not their master. They don't receive the commission to preach from you. When the master returns he will reward each accordingly.

What about the offerings? Are they not commissions?

MaxInDHouse:
There is one thing most people failed to understand about John 3:16


For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. ‭John 3:16 NIV‬


God sent Jesus to TEACH us how to do His will so whoever thinks he knows how to do God's will differently from what Jesus taught is committing a grievous blunder.
How?
Such a person doesn't believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God through whom we can please God well! John 14:6

Let them keep playing nah. They've already established their own way of life outside the one Jesus instructed.

achorladey:
Tell me the right ideology.



Who told you they don't go there?



More like someone who is pained to continuously see what he hates for nothing. What statistics do you have that people don't listen for up to 2 seconds. You just want to condemn what does not dance to your tune.

The right ideology as listed below. I'm not pained but it's discrediting Christianity. Do you think that Catholics, Jehovah's witnesses don't embark on evangelism? Go and verify the manner at which they do their's.

MaxInDHouse:
Satan has put a lot in place to counter Christianity some are frontal attacks and others are subtle form of attacks just to discredit Christianity.
I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses if you'll like to know i'm with you.

That's good to know. The manner the Jehovah's witnesses do their is correct and respectful way, and Catholic does the same.

achorladey:
The agenda I talked about. Are you after the correctness of preaching publicly and the impact it has or you are to deride and denigrate those who do it because it doesn't match your ideology?

It doesn't match the right ideology not just mine. Let them go church, visit homes, prisons not markets and roadsides where people rarely listen up to 2 secs.

achorladey:
Created a thread with an inner agenda.



You can imagine. The intention of the thread coming into light. Just say you don't like how people preach or make proclamation about the good news along the roadsides, market places.

Nowhere in the Bible defines every detail how preaching publicly is to be done. Let that sink in first before you start preaching LEGALISM as doctrines. Has preaching unregimented publicly impacted lives? 100% YES.

no agenda here. I'm just saying what they're up to sha And as far as I know people don't listen even me.

achorladey:
You lost the plot

I don't know you can become an extremist that quickly. Imagine loudspeaker around hospital beds

Rather than just simply admit you don't like people preaching in public places the way they do it, you want to shoehorn your ideas and propaganda of what preaching publicly should be when you cannot even use one bible verse to tell us how Paul did it inside marketplaces.


Do Jesus and apostles preach publicly?


Yes is the answer


Do Jesus and the apostles public preaching had impact?

Yes is the answer.

Your thread is now looking for means to define what Public preaching means not the impact.

This is my point. I'm not an extremist. Have you ever seen a reverend father, Rev. Sister or even Imam preaching in that manner? Abeg we need to respect the dignity of this wonderful religion handed down to us by Christ.

Ten06:
You may not know the impact of that preaching in those areas, me do not also like it but allow them to do their own thing.

i understand, it's a business

omoredia:
What does the bible say?

Acts 22: 15
For you are to be his witness, telling everyone what you have seen and heard.

Mattew 24: 14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 28:19-20
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

Acts 1: 8
But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”

The goal of preaching the gospel is to witness. The role of man is to accept or reject the message. Shalom!

You're right, and I'm not against preaching the gospel but the manner at which they do it looks somehow.

MaxInDHouse:
Amen in Jesus name!
One thing i so much love in the TRUTH is how easily explainable, straightforward and sweet to grasp for honest hearted and sincere individuals! John 8:32

If we all know that shouting in the streets and in buses doesn't make any sense and that it's written in the Bible that Jesus doesn't shout in the streets {Matthew 12:19} then there's no need arguing further with whoever wants to continue deceiving himself!

Don't mind them. I already see people criticizing the topic

MaxInDHouse:
Sometimes it's good to read what goes on around you.

Do Kumuyi, Adeboye, Oyedepo, Mouka, Olukoya and Oyakilome goes to streets and buses to preach?
How come we are seeing what they said inside their churches on the Internet?

God's organization called the first part of our meeting on Sundays:
"Public Talk"
Why?
Because that's when we preach what our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus revealed to us in the secret not on the streets!

The public there in the bible does mean market places rather it was the gathering of the followers of Christ. And the apostles had targets.

arantess:
It can be done on the street too.

In revelation, there are two witnesses preaching the gospel and they did it on the street.

I believe but only when people are listening. Jesus never spoke to passerbys. He always had his listeners ears.

achorladey:
Now it is, is it by shouting indiscriminately. What is your business with shouting indiscriminately. You call what others are doing shouting indiscriminately.

When a town crier enters your community, they come into your sitting room to deliver the message of the baale or king. I don't understand.

Do the apostles preach publicly? Yes they did. Do they preach in marketplaces? Yes they did. How they do it shouting, whispering, crying or dancing is none of your business from here. Your thread title was about it having an impact? Yes, many who listened him publicly later invited him to their homes for more and by so doing some were converted.



You have lost your way in your own thread



Does not remove the fact that they preach publicly and in marketplace.



Does not mean they didn't preach publicly and it was effective.



I hold a bell and raised my voice using a microphone and speaker to tell you about a mobile device that will be of benefit to you in the middle of the marketplace or public spaces. To you Peacecore it is shouting indiscriminately, to others I am making announcement, advertising or as it were proclamation about something. In no time you see people approaching me to know about what you call indiscriminate shouting or noisemaking.

Peacecore is not a toddler, are you?

Go and also carry your loud speaker around the hospital beds and hear people reaction if you believe you can shout everywhere.

MaxInDHouse:
Slenderer!
I will always be ahead of you because i'm using the full strength of the scriptures to back whatever i say while you are just seeking a counter argument.
So sit back and watch how sincere and honest hearted individuals grasp the truth! John 8:32

There's always a time and a place for everything. You raise the sound of a bed to announce your goods in the market is fine because that's the right place to do it. My point is that they should go to their churches or visit homes not market where there already enough noise and no one listens. Can you go to hospital and raise it before know you will be disturbing patience. You should also tell me why they collect offerings.

femi4:
You should ask yourself if Jesus put image into consideration when he gave that order. Jesus n his Apostles preached in diverse environment

They only preached when they were able to gather audience's attention. They never shouted along the market places, roadsides. He always had his listeners following and listening to him, and that's why you here ' Jesus said to the crowd, Peter, Paul et al said to the congregation/people '. Besides they never asked for offering in the market/roadsides.

Warmaterial:
Na hustlers dem be, las las dem go find way to bill people around there either through money for battery or offering to support the work of their god.

Or money for prophecy

muyico:
Yeah
It part of entertainment,
Some were melodious singers

and good offering collectors