₦airaland Forum

sosy25:
OP, you should have created this thread after you have secured your visa.

doubletroublmum:
Your story is so true!!! Refugees / aduro don't get working permit unless there case has been approved. No hustle without papers.... At least its difficult. No work without speaking proper German in most areas.

And now German government is making fast decision on asylum cases, so they can deport refugees quickly back home. Additional German government signed contract with Nigerian government about refugees. They can now easily send people back even without documents and therefore they pay money to Nigeria...

Best way to enter Europe now is by student visa or if you are highly qualified eg in technical jobs.

Everything here has been difficult especially since many refugees came in 2016...

olenime:
#myKobo
@OP, I will your zeal and your effort to go abroad, study and live aftermath, I salute such courage in you at the expense of your grade, Kudos! Believe me, you can do it! you made some mistakes while in school, not coming out with good grades to help with some scholarships, but the deed is done! You can still make it by saving up money and praying to God for an helper!


Sincerely speaking, Your uncle owe you nothing! fight for yourself! if you got good friends abroad (comfortable ones); talk to some of them who can invite you and cater for you for awhile, ive seen friends go abroad through their friends, the rendered help and the rest is story now.

Forget your uncles and families abroad who cant help! As a matter of fact, i got a blood brother abroad (though, we dont talk any more), he recently took his gf abroad (No formal introduction or marriage yet), yes, gf! and he has never filed or take his parent or family member abroad! so, u see uncle is even a long/distance relationship. So my dear, Fight for yourself and forget people that cant help!

Dont look down at yourself! the ealier you forget them, the better for you! borne them! block them! dont dont chat or talk to any body! Let them say you proud!

You can get there!

pendragon35:
pls niggas leaving in Owerri,where can one get an original birth certificate in Owerri.
Tnx in return.[b][/b]

19naia:
People see the bigger salaries abroad in terms of Naira exchnage rate and the quality of life in prefered places abroad, and assume it all means money is surplus.
The truth is that even with a Masters degree in USA, Australia or London, you will only be assured to lived comfortable in a decent area if you find a favorable job.

That large looking salary(in terms of Naira exchange rate) is not paying Nigeria rent or Nigeria home purchase prices. It is not buying all of that high standard of living abroad at the cost of living in an average part of Nigeria.

In New york city, and Sydney Australia, you will be lucky to start off in a simple rental house costing 700k Naira a month. And not including electricity and other ammenities.

And if they have dreams of buying or building a house in Newyork city or Sydney Australia, they will only be near the price of a basic house in those cities when they have enough money to buy a very fine house in Banana Island Ikoyi Lagos.
On top of that, they must eat, they must pay medical coverage, they must buy clothes, transport, leisure time to stave off insanity, care for the family and also pay towards retirement years or invest in business or stocks for the future.

It all adds up. So when you think that they are making easily 2million Naira a month abroad, it is huge and they should be living like Naija politicians, but with 2million Naira a month in NewYork city or Sydney Australia, you will have a basic house to rent, a simple car, food, clothes and basics. If you have a Family to care for, you best hope your spouse works. Because a family supported on 2million Naira a month there is not going far during day to day, but they will at least eat and sleep well.

The ones who live in cheaper cities, like i do, we can live off of less than 1million Naira a month and have the same things and a family, but the jobs will not pay as much as newyork. The manager positions, high pay position are not as available as average pay.

So those who are living abroad, building house in Nigeria and helping family, they are fortunate beyond the average situation. The avaerage Oyibo Abroad is barely supporting their basic life in their own country much less than even thinking of sending money to support people in Nigeria. So to assume Nigerians will enter Abroad and automatically be able to pay for everybody back home and build a house in Nigeria as well as Abroad, it is not true except for a few.

I know my family in Nigeria gets rare support but i know that when my grandmother in Nigeria was being sent money and phone from abroad, there were younger family members always there to pilfer her and another round of money and phone would always have to be sent. It was like that all the way to her death bed and still they pilfered despite her generosity to them. They took until she had nothing left but her death bed to lay on. Also the family house was swindled away. The one who took care of everyone was treated that way.
So when Grandma died, the idea of supporting cousins and nephews or nieces was a bad taste and even the desire to go back and visit was with sentiment similar to going to wander into a den of vultures.

Nigeria can be great and Nigerians can make Nigeria great with all their needs taken care of from home, but it is Nigeria that is the cause of Nigeria own problem and not the problem of people abroad. Who is sending them money abroad that they should be sending money to Nigeria?

Last time i was in Nigeria, i was spending half of my available monthly budget that i use to live a simple life in USA with no car expense. I was having an easy time in Nigeria because the exchange rate gave me a lot of Naira for less than $1000 for a month. People still wanted me to spend all my USA money there with them because they assumed i can go back to USA and pluck money off trees to start well again.

Some even asked for the shoes off my feet at the airport as i departed, like i can ride aeroplane to land in USA and pluck new shoes from trees. Some would collect money from me and then bring other family members to get money from me after. Next time i will give less to people so that when they bring their family to collect, i will give the balance of the less i had given before.
They all seemed to not understand that when i got back to USA, the $800 i had spent in one month there was nothing compared to basic expenses for me when i got back to USA.

I required reserves at home in USA to go back to paying rent, buying food, utilities and so on. And the ticket to fly there sef was more than $1000. How money go remain to just be dashing, dashing and dashing? And when police corner me to fire upon me for having no money for them, all those i dash before will have nothing to use to help me recover if i survive hand of police.

And all the random people just see my face on the street asking me money, it was too much. If i gave away all i had and roamed the streets with nothing, i am sure after a few weeks, most people would turn away from me and call me a madman and have nothing to offer me to console. I have been down that road before and learned well. People need to worry about what they can do for others and then their reward will come.
I gave most to those who helped me and were hospitable to me with their home and time. I will do the same next time and avoid all others as much as i can. Nigerians are some very hospitable people but they can chop and chop and chop and leave nothing to show for it and their hunger will still remain. Especially the politicians there.

I beg, go and complain to your politiciams for money. They are the ones who owe you and have robbed you of nation that can be as lucrative to you as Abroad is for your uncle.

stewatt:
I think this Efe and bisola shii is over hyped.. Cause I don't see anything spectacular they've done rather that immoralities and craps... No hating tho just saying based on logic.. See that old fool trynna snap with the dude like he's some sort of super hero.. *spits* I'm off jae..

Akaewu:
Cant remember. But less than 7k

Akaewu:
Lol for NPC office in your state. (National population commission)

Ugosample:
You better finish up your school, then use the transcripts to further your education anywhere in the world

Leaving halfway means you have wasted the time you spent in the school, and if God forbid, things don't go according to plan, you still have your B.Sc and you can further at a later time

pansophist:
I will not advise you on quitting or finishing your program, but I will ponder on the motivation behind your contemplation.

The grass always looks green at the other side but in reality, it may not be as envisioned. I have been to Italy many times. From my observations and the present Italian economic climate, it is not advisable to migrate there at this moment. Furthermore, How do you plan to sort out your residency?

Your residency is the single yet, most important thing that will determine how far you will progress and how easy your life will be. As far as I have known, there is virtually no method the average Nigerian will sort out their non-temporary residency unless they have family members who are Italian citizens.

Basic things like accommodation, getting a job, opening a bank account, seeing the doctor, benefit entitlements etc will be impossible to obtain without residency, and even if you get a 'under-the-table-job', you are at the mercy of your employer who fully knows that there is no law that protects you as an illegal immigrant, and will likely exploit and treat you as he wishes, and you won't be able to legally do anything about it.

I hope you make the right decision.

ABEngine:
Simple advise, No!

Before you consider me an enemy of progress, read and understand the thread below

https://www.nairaland.com/3390736/must-read-what-he-goes#49952444

How well can you answer these questions?

1. Have your uncle obtained a degree at bachelors level from any Italian institution? I strongly doubt.

2. Has he obtained a permanent residents stay?

3. Is he gainfully employed with established institutions?

4. Or has he antecedents of deceit?

Now don't claim your circumstances are different from that of the reference above, even if they appear so, be rest assured you will run into troubles sooner than you thought if you fail to plan.

There are tons of reasons not to abandon your undergraduate studies having advanced thus far. Just sit back a while to consider the following

1. The language complex

Most Italian universities only offer relevant courses in Italian, the spoken language until recently there were little offers to study in English at an undergraduate level.

2. Notoriority accorded to Nigerians

This is no news to you by now. Do you want to associate with people of questionable characters and recruited to engage in illicit activities? It is a common trend here.

3. A comprehensive plan for your relocation

Be sure you have obtained necessary information about your eligibilty into the promised Italian school, means of livelihood, medical insurance, a secure long term accomodation and an integration road map.

4. Time

Most importantly time!

I will advice you to complete your degree programme before considering any such moves and act only when you are satisfied with the responses to the questions above.

Brother, from me to you, miracles don't happen in this part of the world, disregard whatever you uave seen on social media except you are prepared for a life of crime.

Pidgin2:
Opinion on leaving school while you are in your third year (almost through) to go and hustle as an illegal immigrants abroad?

I wasn't harsh, I gave you the best response for your question.

ifyalways:
Finish your first degree here before you go. If your Uncles money is biting him to spend, he should pick another of your siblings or cousins that is through with first degree.

Pidgin2:
As you have decided to place your future in the hands of strangers on nairaland, let me help you with an answer, oya go to Italy, go and hustle and leave Nigeria for us.

smithsydny:
him no no say vegetable dey town oo