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Dmacaw:
Rubbish!!!!!! It's not a must to comment you can keep your stinking and poverty mentality to yourself.

Sorry, you are the interloper here. I created the thread and the forum is a free one, so you can see I have every right to comment on my.thread.

You will agree with me that you're the one with a daft and inconsequential response? You need to seek cure for Stockholm syndrome. Celebrating and supporting clear thieves and rogues who are stealing from poor souls like you and others yet they gullibly cover your eye by shouting HOLY HOLY HOLY.

GO read about the life N times of Ayo Otitshejafor then you will realized you have been fooled.

You mean with the DSS, Nigerian Intelligence Agency, Nigerian Police and all it arms of the Military, GEJ was given a nomination and he went ahead to appoint a KNOWN BUSOM FRIEND OF A FRIEND THAT IS A FRIEND AND ALLY TO TINUBU.

Can you now see that your president is a Dundee, a mumu, foolish, drunk and lazy to have allowed someone close a friend of a FRIEND to a friend of Tinubu.

Your stupid rejoinder is lazy and inconsequential. Was it Tinubu or APC that appointed the IGBO man as the head of AMCON.

I'm sure it was Tinubu and APC who directed the release of Capital Oil to Ifeanyi Ubah.

Why is it a criteria to be unintelligent to be a supporter of the PDP?

The more they try to cover this story the more they tend to go deeper into the ditch. Really feel for him and the family and the stigma associated with what the greed and lust for worldly material things had led him.

You can't worship God and Marmon

smileandlove:
Op you started well, that is if the source of this information is true.however I did not like the part you begin to talk about APC and PDP or any other party at that. This is a national calamity lumming. We should all see it from that light. This is not the kind of news that we should use politics to distract,

BTW, thought they said Nigeria is the strongest economy in Africa? How come we are getting this kind of news?why is the same goverment talking with both sides of their mouth?. Am sure we are yet to know the truth about this our economy.

Why won't we blame the people culpable for the mismanagement. The PDP has been in power for 15years and they can't be insulated.

The person who called him told him the plane was impounded in South Africa. So the gentleman said something happened. It was at that point he said one John came to hire the plane to South Africa. That was what happened. The next they heard was they dis­covered this and that. However, since they knew that the plane and the crew members had nothing to do with the transaction, they let the plane go which is the normal practice. The only thing they do is that once that occurs, the next thing they do is to search whoever that is involved, pick the person and that’s it. No one is now going to start putting it on the plane or the owners or even the crew. The next thing he said was, ‘Oh my God’. He said these people are after something. I actually thought it was a joke because I wasn’t expecting anyone to condescend to that base level. I expect some­one to be able to see between the lines. Please let us not belittle our government. Are you tell­ing me that a whole Federal Government of Nigeria would need a pastor to help him move money to a location to buy arms? That is an insult on this nation. For anyone to even phan­tom it shows how small minded we are really, and that we don’t look at things holistically. It just does not make any sense at all other than the fact that certain people just said since it is his plane, let us just see how we can rope him with it so that we can malign him at the end of the day since we have been unable to hook him to anything.

We were also told that the same people leaked the transaction to the media…

They did. They leaked it. When we now did our own investigation, we discovered that by the time the plane touched ground in South Africa, the picture was already taken. And some people were already having a meeting in London, and coming up with all sorts of stories and so on and so forth about him even before everything finally blew open. So it was all or­chestrated right from Nigeria. Whoever such people are, they are not true Muslims or Chris­tians. These are enemies of progress. These are people who are doing their very best to cause unnecessary discord between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria which is very sad. To use an innocent man to throw this sling is very sad.

Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor is not the target; it’s every Christian in Nigeria. We are all the tar­get. We are the ones they have targeted but, of course, they can’t get to everyone so they have to look for the person who represents Christi­anity in Nigeria and that is what we are expe­riencing.

It’s sad to see Christian leaders calling for the resignation of Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor and so on when some of them don’t even know the details of what happened. It’s manipula­tion. And some of them too have betrayed themselves. We also know the lives they live. I don’t even see some of those people as Christian leaders. I want to use this opportu­nity to appreciate our brethren at Catholic, our brethren at Baptist and all of the five blocks of Christian Association of Nigeria who stood their grounds knowing who they have as their leader and, of course, standing to confront an­ything negative concerning him. When I read the communiqué after a meeting they had in Abuja, they said this jet wasn’t bought by Pres­ident Jonathan, but if anyone has evidence to this effect that it was bought by President Jon­athan, make it public. Number two, they also said that this particular plane was leased out before now. If anyone has an evidence to show that it was not, make it public. I’m still wait­ing. I haven’t seen anyone to do that. I think it is at that time they will know that my own is more than my husband. I have just been hold­ing myself because of him. Otherwise, I would have loved to scream and shout and show up on television and call out to Nigerians to say that they should not kill my husband. The only thing this man has done is to sacrifice himself for you. So if you do not appreciate him, then what is the need for him making these sacri­fices, putting his 42 years in ministry on the line just because of you and I? I think he is a man who is worthy of commendation, who is worthy to be praised amongst men. A lot of people chicken out because they want to ap­pear in the good books of everybody. No one really wants to come out. Everyone tries to shy away from anything that has to do with things like Boko Haram or anything. He is the only one by the special grace of God, and no won­der God decided to put him in this position for such a time like this. If we had had a weakling there, I don’t know what would have happened to this country by now. It would have been a different ball game entirely.


http://thecitizenng.com/the-citizen-interview/9-3m-arms-cash-was-set-up-oritsejafors-wife

HOLY LIES FROM AN UNHOLY SHAMELESS MOUTH.

You have the names of people who donated billions of Naira to buy a JET for your husband..... Hmmmmm
It shall be well with Nigeria

At last, Pastor Helen Oritsejafor, has opened up on the contentious $9.3m money-for-arm saga, say­ing it was a grand design to cow Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor, the outspoken founder of the Word of Life Bible Church and president of the Christian Association of Nigeria (CAN). She described the ep­isode in which an aircraft owned by her spouse was caught in South Africa with the staggering amount on board as a ‘sinister joke.’ He dismissed it as the handiwork of enemies of progress determined to desta­bilize the country.

“Whoever such people are, they are not true Muslims or Christians. These are enemies of progress. These are people who are doing their very best to cause unnecessary discord between Christians and Muslims in Nigeria which is very sad. To use an innocent man to throw this sling is very sad”, she said, emotion welling up in her voice.

According to Mama Helen, who spoke in Warri ahead of the Church’s annual Jubilee Word Festival, “Pastor Ayo Oritsejafor is not the target; it’s every Christian in Nigeria. We are all the target. We are the ones they have targeted but, of course, they can’t get to every­one, so they have to look for the person who represents Christianity in Nigeria and that is what we are experiencing.”

She descended heavily on some men of God who have called on her husband to step down as CAN leader over the episode. She spoke further on this and more with BEIFOH OSEWELE. Excerpts:

Your husband has received a lot of bashing lately. How do you react?

For us southerners, we might not really appreciate what Papa Ayo Oritsejafor is do­ing and the role he is playing in Christianity in Nigeria because we are not directly affected by the activities of the terrorist group, Boko Haram. Christians in the North are the ones experiencing it, they are the ones losing fa­thers and mothers, children; being dislocated. They are the ones who see people’s throats being cut off like chickens, their houses be­ing burnt by petrol bombs and their young ones both boys and girls being abducted on a daily basis. They value Papa so very much. They know that whatever he is going through today is because of them. They were actually the people who came to persuade him to run for CAN presidency. The first time they came, he used wisdom for them and said he would think about it. They came back again and kept coming because they know who he is. He is a good man. If there is anything I know my husband to be, is that he is a good man to a fault, and sometimes, I really feel for him. Un­fortunately, the society of nowadays does not value a man like this, especially those of us in the South. He is much respected in the North.

How did you receive the news of his jet’s involvement in the $9.3m money-for-arms saga?

I was really surprised. I didn’t even know anything about it. I didn’t even know our plane was out of the country because we leased it out to a company in Abuja so that we will be able to utilise whatever comes out of the deal for the maintenance of the plane because it is quite expensive. So, we didn’t know. Even though we read and heard some comments some people made concerning it, unknown to us that our plane was actually involved. We were really surprised just like every people. In all honesty, by the time we got to know that it was Papa’s plane, we knew that the enemies were trying to play some prank. It is natural because he is a symbol of Christianity in Nige­ria. If anyone wants to move against Christian­ity in Nigeria, it would be easier for the one to go after the symbol. The only thing is I wasn’t expecting people to get really dirty as they did.

So you were really shocked?

The whole episode appeared as if some­body was out for some sinister joke. It’s quite obvious. Take for instance, why was it that it was Papa’s plane that would be hired? How would it be that it would be his plane of all planes in Nigeria that they needed for that mission? It’s still very baffling. Number two, it became obvious that it was orchestrated and the whole essence of it is to see how they can give him a name God has not given to him, and all because he has been a very outspoken man. I know him too well, he is a very down-to-earth person, and he doesn’t know how to hide his feelings. He is a very quiet and re­served person. But then when there is a need for him to speak about anything, he would rather confront things the way they are rather than hide behind his fingers. That is not him. I know quite a number of people have been very uncomfortable with that especially with the Boko Haram situation.

Let’s be frank, who would not be affected? You are leading a body and gradually, there seems to be an elimination of this same group of people. You would be a wicked leader not to react. So, he made every effort. He noticed that our government wasn’t really forthcoming with a lot of things; we seem to try to politicise a lot of things in Nigeria which is quite trou­bling. He went out of his way to address the US Congress. It was quite obvious that terror­ism was being financed not just from within but from outside as well, whether to destabilise or in a way, indirectly force on Nigeria a par­ticular religion which is quite shameful. And he was not comfortable with that. If you would know, this was injustice. So, he is now paying the price for being an outspoken man, defend­ing his people, defending Christianity in Nige­ria, and do not want Nigerians having to hide their heads later on in life because whichever way we look at it, history will tell.

Why do you think that some people would politicise a purely security issue like that?

Well it’s natural. Number one, it is the per­ception. By the special grace of God, a man who has lived a life that is worthy of note, a man with an integrity that is without blemish, who will never compromise his stand which­ever way it is; automatically, that man has add­ed so much value to Christianity and of course, the umbrella of Christianity in Nigeria which is Christian Association of Nigeria. So, a person­ality like Papa Ayo is a threat to anyone who sees him as one because they believe he has a voice, he has a clout, coupled with the fact that the present president of Nigeria happens to be a Christian who is also from the South-South. So, they believe that this man is definitely going to support his brother, he would want him to come back being a Christian as well. Without having to say too much, if I could say this, it is quite shameful. At a point, I was go­ing to actually call some of the wives of these so-called people who were going outside say­ing a lot of things about my husband, having to engage them as well and see how it looks like, telling them to come out and look at the issue, how would they feel, how would people condescend so low? A lot of things I read in the newspapers, sometimes they amuse me, some­times I’m a little bit surprised. But when peo­ple begin to fabricate stories and they are doing everything in their power to hang a man, it’s quite surprising to me because I would think that what we should be talking about should be the dividends of democracy.

We don’t even have what they call politi­cal surgery. In developed countries, they have surgery where there’s what we call town house where it is expected at the local government level, state level and at whatever level, where people would be able to ask certain questions from the leadership, and challenge them on how they are piloting the affairs of the nation. With what I have seen, Nigeria is yet to get to that level and that is why we look for every necessary means to pull down people instead of fixing the issues on ground.

At least now, we all know that it is the Na­tional Security Adviser who hired that plane out, who happens to be a relation of the de­fence minister and who happens to be an in-law to the Sultan of Sokoto. I had a lot of respect for the Sultan of Sokoto. Before this is­sue of Boko Haram and so on, himself and my husband used to be very close. I could remem­ber every now and then when he wanted to talk to my husband; he would often ask how is mama? If there were issues in the newspapers and all that, he would call in to find out things and so on and so forth. I so much cherished his relationship with my husband. But I’m a little bit surprised because no matter how it is, you know your friend. We must not allow bigotry to take away our innocence, our integrity, our conscience in the name of what we are trying to get. We must not allow that to happen. We must always remember posterity because one way or the other, posterity will always judge. And we must not throw caution to the wind be­cause of whatever we are trying to achieve. We must also remember that Pastor Ayo Oritseja­for is a husband of a woman who has children as well, regardless of whatever we are trying to do. This is a man that I know, and some Nigerians also know that this is a man who is so loving and caring. If there’s anything this man can do to impact the lives of the down­trodden ones in the society, he would do. He’s done many. Many times over and over again, he goes out of his way to buy brand new cars, tricycles, grinding machines and so on to al­leviate poverty in this country. He is a person who decided to start a micro finance bank, not necessarily to make money, but to see how he can help lift someone’s head up; in bridging gap between the poor and the rich.

He believes the poor in our midst deserves every right to be somebody in life. This is a man who has sent thousands of people to universities through his Indigent Scholarship Scheme that he has in place over the years. This is a man who actively participated in the peace initiative of Delta State that we are enjoying today. As a matter of fact, but for a man such as this, I do not think that Delta State would have been what it is today. There was nothing he didn’t do. He went out of his way to the creeks to speak to the militants, con­fronted situations headlong just to make sure he brings about peace.

What some people don’t know is that we love the Muslims. We do not have anything against Muslims. A lot of people are sending wrong signals to a lot of people, particularly Muslims, thinking that Pastor Ayo is an enemy of Muslims. It is totally untrue. There is no iota of truth in it. He has a lot of them as friends. Papa Ayo’s relationship with Sultan of Sokoto is still strong as ever. When Islamic funda­mentalists were killing his Christian brothers and sisters in the North, he was forced to urge their leaders to speak against the killings, let us find solution to this, you have a right to prac­tice your religion, I have equal right as well to do same and we must not be at each other’s throats; and somebody being at the receiving end and having to keep quiet, I must speak out because I am the leader. That’s who we are talking about here.

When the Niger Delta crisis was so heavy, a lot of Warri were closed down. They took off when the gunshots and so on were such a very messy situation. But he stood his ground. We have all kinds of tribes in Word of Life Bible Church today; there are people from the North, people from all parts of Delta State even at the time of the crisis. During the crisis, the church was functioning normally because he has always been a detribalised man. He is man that deals with people based on who they are, not according to tribe or religion. He en­gages people based on who they are. He went out of his way to spend tens of millions of na­ira on internally displaced Ijaws at Ogbe Ijoh, shipping bags of rice, bags of clothes and all sorts of things just to bring succour.

And naturally, many Itsekiris grumbled saying he did not extend the same gesture to them and he asked them if the Ijaws were not our people too? Whatever is happening, peace will definitely reign, we must not go back at each other. It was later he had to balance the whole thing so that they won’t think he’s one-sided.

When you look at all these, when you look at a man who can do anything just to make sure that another man is comfortable, why should any man, all because of his disposition towards his people, go after him in this man­ner? It’s amazing. What that goes to tell you is that they have looked for everything; we have heard of one or two people caught in some unholy alliance and so on, thank God my husband was not involved. They have done everything they could do to try and pull him down. What they finally did was to use a gift that was given to him; he didn’t use his money to buy it.

Some people said President Jona­than bought it for him.

I wish he did. I have the list of the names of people who masterminded this thing on our record. Hundreds and thousands of peo­ple, church folks who said this man served us with every vigour in him, we could see in him a great man and he’s not getting younger anymore. He is ever on the road constantly doing everything he can for the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, let us try as much as pos­sible to elongate his life by blessing him with this gift. He didn’t buy it or put down money to say this is what he wants. He didn’t even know anything about it. I was aware of it. What I would have loved for them to tell me is to show me the receipt of the plane that was bought by President Jonathan and the person who said he bought the plane. I have heard all sorts of lies that maybe somebody did it on behalf of somebody. There’s no human being that can stand up to say I bought this plane. It’s a complete lie from the pit of hell. Because of his person, realising the fact that what should he do with this plane knowing the amount of money that it’s going to cost to maintain it; if he was using church money to maintain it, they would have cried out to say he is using church money. You can see how foolish peo­ple can be. If President Jonathan bought him a plane, can’t the same President Jonathan maintain the plane? Why must it be hired out so as to sustain the maintenance of the same plane if indeed it was the president that bought this plane? They politicise a lot of things. It’s really annoying.

Is Pastor Ayo really that close to President Jonathan as his accusers allege?

I would love it if people can help me de­fine that word ‘close’. Yes there’s a relation­ship that has to do with being in his position as the President of CAN and President Jonathan as the President of Nigeria. Automatically, whether he likes it or not, there will be some level of interaction and that is what Nigerians are calling closeness. Maybe they should tell us how President Jonathan gave him one naira to buy a plane.

I don’t really think that Pastor Ayo is closer to the president than the Sultan of Sokoto, the co-chair of NIREC. This is not to say that Papa hates Jonathan, no he does not. He is a Chris­tian and so as a Christian father to the nation, he tries his best to provide a guard. He speaks out whenever necessary. He goes in to offer his own advice or suggestion as the case maybe whenever he is asked to. When he wants to see the president, he makes request just like every­one else. And mostly, it is to discuss the issue of the nation. Many times, he goes with his CAN executive council members to sit down with the president and confront him on certain issues all to see how the nation can be well pi­loted. What I have noticed is that whichever way you see it, if I say this man is not close to the president, they will say it’s because of what happened, if I say he’s close, they will say that is what we are talking about. I don’t even care what people might say concerning that because you can never please human be­ings. What I am saying is that please before you start giving this man a bad name, find out the true position of things. Do not go out there forgetting that he is a husband to a woman and he is a father as well. Besides, he is a man who has sacrificed himself. I think Nigerians even have him more than I do.

He is a very passionate person. When he believes in something, he’s driven by it. He goes all out to see how he can really push across whatever he is trying to bring in. That’s who he is. When he got the leadership, when he was elected to lead Christians in Nigeria, he made up his mind that he was going to do everything and anything possible to propagate what he has been given. And he sees it as an assignment. Many times, people see leader­ship just to bear a name and enjoy it. I think if this man had wanted to enjoy the leader­ship as it were, maybe by now his relationship with the Sultan of Sokoto would be waxing stronger. And maybe he would have been enjoying more from the government as well. But he has decided to sacrifice all that just like Moses. Moses sacrificed and said he was not going to allow the booty in Pharaoh’s house to override his judgment and so he shut himself out completely from the judgment at the pal­ace and made himself a sacrifice for the liberty and freedom of the Israelites. That is what we are seeing now with our father as well. He has truly given himself out to the nation and, then of course, to the people who we call his con­stituents.

How did he receive the news of the plane saga?

He didn’t also know. When everything hap­pened, according to what we heard, the plane was released immediately and it came back to Nigeria. They didn’t even bother to contact us to tell us what happened. No one said any­thing. It was when someone called him and asked ‘where is your plane.’ And he said he didn’t know but he would find out from his wife. I have been the one managing it. When everything happened, they put it on him, but I have actually been the one running it. So he called me and asked where the plane was, I said I didn’t know promising to call him back.

Mogidi:
Who inserted the bolded, it would have been better to tell the electorates its not global.




Hey don't bother asking your state govts, lets blame the fed govt as usual.....genius!

Do you read the Post at all?

You mean the State Govts manages and administer the Economy and yet many of them can't pay salaries and were complaining of shortfall in their Allocation since the beginning of the year. Hmmmm tell me something new

Nigerians we need to save our country from Decay and Economic mismanagement.

The Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) has stopped the sale of dollars to some categories of importers at its twice-weekly regulated foreign exchange market in order to save the naira from falling.

The move is meant to also reduce the pressure on the naira amid falling oil prices and perceived dollarisation of the economy, according to industry analysts.

In a circular released on Thursday, the central bank specifically said it would no longer sell dollars to importers of electronics, finished products, information technology equipment, generators, telecommunication equipment and invisible transactions at its Retail Dutch Auction System forex market.

According to the directive, the importation of the listed items will now be funded at the interbank forex market only.

The circular was signed by the Director, Trade and Exchange Department, Mr. O.I Gbadamosi.

It read in part, “In order to maintain the existing stability in the foreign exchange market and to further strengthen the various policies already initiated by the CBN, the importation of the items shall henceforth be funded from the interbank foreign exchange market only.”

Meanwhile, the CBN said it had also reviewed the guidelines for the operation of its Standing Deposit Facility in order to encourage banks and discount houses to lend to the productive sectors of the economy.

The central bank noted that banks and discount houses preferred keeping their idle balances at the CBN’s SDF, thereby constraining the process of financial intermediation.

Consequently, it has reduced the remunerable daily placements by banks and discount houses at the SDF to maximum of N7.5bn.

In a circular signed by its Director, Financial Markets, Mr. E. U Ukeje, the central bank said, “All deposits by a bank or discount house in excess of N7.5bn shall not be remunerated.” – Punch.



http://thecitizenng.com/business/cbn-halts-dollar-sales-to-save-naira/

Respite seems far from the Nigerian Economy with the Naira going southwards since last week and the Nigeria stockmarket Losing N484billion in its biggest loss in a single day since the Global Economic Meltdown.

The picture is clear to every sane and reasonable Nigerian with the love of the Motherland that the Government has no Account for the Excess Crude proceeds nor was a contingency measure put in place to augment for emergency situations like this.

the time to ask questions about what the Government and Prof. Okonjo Iweala have done with the money accruing to the Federation in the last 4years that oil sold for an average of $110/barrel for 4years and yet we are in serious crisis in just 3 weeks of oil price decrease.

Every Nigerian should demand where our monies are.

They are already asking for Foreign Loans, our Foreign Reserve is in its lowest state in 5years. What is really going on?


I know the MODs will try to hide this thread as they have been doing to any thread that tend to reveal the decay within the PDP lead Administration

cc
Obiageli
berem
barcanista
ibnsultan
patrickmuf
desola
gbawe
sincere9jarian
ngwakwe
laykorn
ngeneukwenu

we have had enough of ANTI APC SUBJECTS ON THE HOME PAGE, LATEST ONE IS WHY BUHARI JAILED FELA. AS IF THATS IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE TO OUR NATION TODAY

and all patriotic Nigerian lets pray for our country

Seems you were just thought how to post on NL or how is the defeat of Arsenal the most important thing to happen to your life.

Fans wey go watch live for emirate stadium ain't lamenting just because you paid N50 to watch it on TV you no gree us peace. Send your account number let me return your N50 so you can delete this thread.

If in all of the carnage brought on the lives of this young innocent lives wasted and lost for a course they know nothing about and all your worried is for JonaTAN's declaration tomorrow.

May you never experience what those boys or what their parents and relatives went thru or are going thru.

God help your soul.

FastShipping:
I agree with you that government should not be in the business of building homes but in the absence of private entities building homes, what should the government do? The Lagos State government is trying to fill the vacuum here. Government building homes has been in our society before I was born. I don't think this is going to stop anytime soon.

There is no WHERE in the WORLD that government is not involved in building of HOMES, I REPEAT, NO WHERE..

PRIVATE DEVELOPERS CAN NEVER MEET THE HOUSING NEED OF THE PEOPLE.

A private developer can never tie down his money for a 10years - 20years investment, only a SENSIBLE AND PEOPLE ORIENTATED GOVERNMENT WILL DO WHAT THE FASHOLA ADMINSTRATION IS DOING IN LAGOS.

PAY A REASONABLE AMOUNT AS INITIAL DEPOSIT, OCCUPY AND PAY THE BALANCE SPREAD OVER 10-15-20YEARS. MOST OF THE BENEFICIARY CAN NOT AND WON'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO BUY A PLOT OF LAND IN LAGOS IN THEIR LIFETIMES

Oment5:
This Yo-robber cow
Ist paragraph- my father is not a chemist

2nd paragraph- I don't understand


3rd paragraph- so you mean to tell me that yo-robber people don't have Awo replacement? Kia..odikwa egwu dikwa very risky
I thought tinubu is your awolowo?
I thought he is robbing lagos which is no man's land to liberate the sons of odua from syndrome of brown roof mentality

Can you see how incoherent you're sounding, it is Tinubu, it is Awolowo. Schizophrenia, Parkinson's disease are terminal disease with no known cure yet you're using fake drugs to manage them, who doesn't know you're living on borrowed time?

Somebody created a thread to celebrate a HERO of his peoples struggle, you brought Awolowo's name into him, did Awolowo re-incarnate to kill Saro Wiwa ni? Lack of medulla matter in your oblongata is a disease that kills surely but slowly, it has eaten.deep into your marrow that you lack comprehension and intelligence.

Who doesn't know your father's unlicensed chemist shop was amongst the one closed down by the late prof when she was heading NAFDAC, HOPE your father has not joined you in N120 CD business you do along the Onitsha headbridge.

Those brown roof are relics of an ancient civilization just like the pyramid in Egypt, your forefathers were living in the bush like apes and monkeys when those brown roofs were being used in the west. Go on YouTube and watch the WAYS of the KOMA people that will give you a detailed account of how your forefathers lived.

You ordinary son of a worthless and sacrificial OSU, that escaped being used to appease the village gods because a white man was fortunate to enter your village on the D-day. Go ask the story, the obi of Onitsha is still there, he knows the story well.

Oment5:
Good thing that Niger delta people remember the death of their icons.





When will Yo-robber remember the day Awo took rat poison with good faith?

I guess it was your father the fake chemist at Onitsha headbridge that sold the poison right?

Why is mumuism and idiocy a generational and entire race syndrome in your lineage? Why is it so easy to know when an igbo man talks?

If Awolowo died at over 75years, how much more is a man celebrated in life and in death the way the sage was. I'm sure you're still living circa 1967-1970, there are many Awolowo's around today, just try the Biafra story again Kwashiokor, cannibalism and hunger will be the least of your tears this time around.

Moronic fool.

tit:
And Buhari says: Abacha is not corrupt.

Goodluck Ebele JonaTAN is not only partying and dancing with same ABACHA'S SON but told him.to go with over N400bn of the same money you are calling him corrupt for.

Shell was told to pay $1.6billion to clean up the environment in the Niger Delta and Government of Nigeria was told to see to it that the monies was collected from SHELL and ensure the clean up was done by SHELL by the World Court in HAgUe.

Do you know under which government the two things happened? It was the government of a son of the soil, An Ijaw cousin of the OGONIS.

HE is not only dining and dancing with the son of the executioner, he has dropped all corruption charges aganist the same family and also refuse to implement the Hague's Court directive to fine SHELL.

Now can you see you lack the commonsense to put Buhari in your post.

gtrust:
That is the same Harvard Professor who established the Investment Trust Fund and refused to share "excess crude fund" wanted an excess crude account established for periods like these.
Amaechi and co fought her!

How can we forget so soon

The government had a Sovereign wealth fund, excess crude account and others. The NGF knew the money will be stolen if left in the hands of the FG and they have been proved right.

Reserve low, no excess crude account, just SWF. Where is the money now?

Obinoscopy:
The post in bold have confirmed that you lied initially when you said a 40K monthly earner can afford those Fashola houses. Please always learn to be straightforward and honest. Don't mimic those lying politicians.

Now that you've admitted that the common man who earns 40K or less can't afford these wonderful fashola houses, I can now answer your questions.

You asked if I read all what you wrote? Yes, I did. But I was looking for ur honest answer to my question. And it took you a while to understand and respond my question.

You asked if the Government is a Charity Organisation? My answer is Yes! A government is a charity organisation and it's benefactors are supposed to be the citizens, esp the low-income and middle-income earners. The rich and the super-rich can take care of themselves.

You were asking me about London Borough? Wetin concern me with London. Their economy is way above ours. The purchasing power of their citizens is way higher than ours. So biko don't compare us with London.

You were mentioning Mortgage crises? This is not supposed to be a business scheme. It's a social scheme. The government mustn't make profit from this venture. They should build low cost houses for their tac paying citizens. The government can afford it, they mustn't rely on the loans from private mortgage firms.

You say people are not complaining? Seriously? This shows you are truly disconnected from the people on the streets.

You asked how many estates have your PDP led cherished government provided? Well, I don't know. Maybe none sef. But the fact that the PDP government are misbehaving should not give the APC government the leeway to misbehave too. If the PDP isn't in tune with the masses, it's the job of the APC to demonstrate good governance by reaching out to the masses. It's only then that we can now see APC as an alternative to the incompetent government in power. But if APC keeps engaging in policies that won't better the common man then we're torn between the devil and the deep blue sea. And we might just prefer to remain where we are.

If you look at the pictures, you will see a micheal otedola estate in odoirangunshin in Epe, that goes for about N40k if not less for those who wants that.

Lagos is a cosmopolitan area and not your village kind of setting. If the Government paid the owners of the land their land worth, paid contractors to put up the houses you now say he should give out the houses on social service arrangement are you a joker or just talking without thinking

the Government need to recoup it investments to build more for others, the HOUSES are reasonably and moderately priced based on the prevailing rate they go for and the rate that owners pay back monthly. That it is a success shows that people loves the initiative. Many more are being delivered and by tomorrow more are going out.

Government provided BRT buses, if your baseless analogy is to go by, then the common man who earns N40K should not pay more than N10 for a trip, so that when the Buses gets bad they are packed and abandoned because the government was concerned about your common man.

Where in the whole world do you see people getting houses for free because their salary is low? Even those on State Welfare in the UK pay their MONTHLY RENT out of the STIPEND they get from the same State, yet the are basically not working and depend on the state for SURVIVAL, The Council Flats they live in is still paid for out of their welfare at the end of the month.

Finally the state is not a CHARITY ORGANISATION if you know the MEANING OF CHARITY, It can only subsidized the cost of essential services or decide to render such services free if it has the power and resources to do so. (Education in the UK is free for Primary school if you attend a public school and subsidized if you attend a Public University, Health care is free for pregnant women and children but not for all ailment) so where will Lagos State Government says it got it own idea from to provide HOUSING as a social service. No where in the WORLD is HOUSING a CHARITY except by CHARITY ORGANISATION and that is not provided for an individual for life.

Come to lagos and see the crave and rush to be a lucky winner of the scheme. I REPEAT NO ONE WITH N20MILLION CAN AFFORD TO BUY A LAND AND PUT UP A FLAT IN THE PLACES THOSE FLATS ARE LOCATED. The houses and flats are given away in a subsidized amount.

LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT OR ANY GOVERNMENT AT ALL IS NOT AND IS NEVER A CHARITY, Charity organization live on donations and gifts, GOVERNMENT earns its funding from TAXES, ROYALTIES, BONDS, PENALTIES/FINES, SUBVENTIONS AND AIDS. WHERE YOU LEARN YOUR OWN ABOUT GOVERNMENT BEING A CHARTIY I DONT KNOW. GOVERNMENT PROVIDE SOCIAL SERVICES IF IT CAN AFFORD IT AND IT IS NOT COMPULSORY

WHAT THE LAGOS STATE GOVERNMENT IS DOING ON THE HOUSING SCHEME IS COMMENDABLE, APPRECIATED BY BENEFICIARIES, REASONABLE AND ECONOMICAL.

THANK YOU AND GOOD NIGHT. KEEP ON HIDING PRO-APC THREAD LIKE THIS AS YOU LIKE, THE PEOPLE ARE WISER AND WE KNOW BETTER

Obinoscopy:
The post in bold have confirmed that you lied initially when you said a 40K monthly earner can afford those Fashola houses. Please always learn to be straightforward and honest. Don't mimic those lying politicians.

Now that you've admitted that the common man who earns 40K or less can't afford, I can now answer your questions.

You asked if I read all whatbyou wrote? Yes, I did. But I was looking for ur honest answer to my question. And it took you a while to understand my question.

You asked if the Government is a Charity Organisation? My answer is Yes! A government is a charity organisation and it's benefactors are supposed to be the citizens, esp the low-income and middle-income earners. The rich and the super-rich can take care of themselves.

You were asking me about London Borough? Wetin concern me with London. Their economy is way above ours. The purchasing power of their citizens is way higher than ours. So biko don't compare us with London.

You were mentioning Mortgage crises? This is not supposed to be a business scheme. It's a social scheme. The government mustn't make profit from this venture. They should build low cost houses for their tac paying citizens. The government can afford it, they mustn't rely on the loans from private mortgage firms.

You say people are not complaining? Seriously? This shows you are truly disconnected from the people on the streets.

You asked how many estates have your PDP led cherished government provided? Well, i don't know. Many none sef. But the fact that the PDP government are misbehaving should not give the APC government the leeway to misbehave too. If the PDP isn't in tune with the masses, it's the job of the APC to demonstrate good governance by reaching out to the masses. It's only then that we can now see APC as an alternative to the incompetent government in power. But if APC keeps engaging in policies that won't better the common man then we're torn between the devil and the deep blue sea.

Guy drop the issue you have no point, you're sounding incoherent. If the Governemnt provided a safe reasonable and cheap affordable housing to its people then it is doing its duty.

A 2 or 3 bedroom flat in Ogba ijaiye cost like N700,000 per annum, that's like N60k per annum for a house that will never become yours, if your now paying same amount like your normal rent for a flat that will be yours forever, Wont you grab it. or what exactly are you saying?
if the government is not building the houses, wont those your N40k earners pay rent somewhere. Lagos has over 20million people and it is doing the best out of imagination to provide cheap affordable and reasonably priced accommodation for its people not minding their origins.

The Houses are priced and charged to tally with rent obtainable in those places and percentages of it taken off. The houses are a blessing to thousands who can never and never in their imagination think of owning a property in Lagos. that is a caring government.

Thank God you agree that NONE OF THE PDP governors or the PRESIDENCY HAS SUCH REVOLUTION IN HOUSING .

Not many people have the money to buy a plot of land in lagos but with this housing initiative thousands are proud owners of a decent, comfortable and choice flats that is theirs for life.

mrvitalis:
if abains like collect money and vote again this is a big lesson for u all

Didn't Arthur Eze called APC awolowo party? are you sure abians wants awolowo party in power?

FastShipping:
Obinoscopy is PDP hatchet man on nairaland. He seems pained this project was overseen by an APC Governor. Look at the speed he moved it to property section. What is wrong with the thread staying in politics section? Fashola is a politician and this is part and parcel about politics because it showcases the work of a particular politician in Lagos who happens to be number one politician in Lagos.

Obinoscopy, your bias knows no bound. I don't really blame you because you are always trying to outshine your master (Seun).

my brother I wonder o. someone posted an editorial written by a non indigene of Lagos, just because It projects fashola in some badlight not minding the stupid lies in the same editorial, it was yanked straight to front page and not the literature section, this one projecting what some of those loans is being used for is yanked straight to property to be hidden from peoples view.

obinoscopy can you put this post on the frontpage since you have taken it to the RIGHT SECTION. let people see what the loans are being used for.


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Obinoscopy:
Ok, thanks for finally answering my question. Now, I can pose the next question.

Having gone through most of the wonderful houses constructed by the great Fashola, I realised that the minimum cost of the houses is 7 million naira (or thereabout). The person is to pay an outright 2 million (or thereabout) and then will pay 68K every month for 10 years! Do you really think a guy earning 40K per month can afford this?

See the pix below to see the calculation as done by the homs website (incase u doubt my calculation)

Do you read what I wrote at all? Is the Government a Charity organization that builds and donates? you have been asking me questions since why not answer the ones I put forward to you?

Do you know the minimum wage in London Borough and how much a council flat cost? you people just talk out of the blues without properly assessing the words that you spew. go online and seek how much a council flat cost? A moderate council flat cost between 900pounds to 1200pounds depending on the area. How much do you think a council worker on minimum wage in London earns?

why do you think there was mortgage crisis if not for the fact people took loans from the banks to pay off mortgage on their houses and could not pay back the loans.

If the flats are given out for N2,000 per months, How will the Government raise funds to build and provide same opportunity to others.

the people in lagos are not complaining why are you crying more than the bereaved? How much do you think a plot of land cost in Ijaye, Mushin, Ojokoro, Abijo, Lekki and other choice areas that the flats are built? if a man now has an opportunity to own a flat of 2 or 3bedroom for life in those areas don't you think it makes economic sense?

A plot of Land in Mushin goes for 8-10million if not more at the moment, that is minus the cost of building the property and other sundry cost that crept up in putting up a house in Lagos. If same Man now has an opportunity to move in into a more economical and reasonable and affordable option don't you think the man is better for it?

Go to Abuja, at least I worked there for almost a year, How much is a 3bedroom flat going for on rent? cheapest is N1.2million per annum, ain't public servant staying there? how many estates have your PDP led cherished government provided? What is the federal Minimum wage? Are the civil servant in Abuja who run to Lugbe, Nasarawa, Kubwa, Gwagwalada not entitled to a decent flat within Abuja too?

Many People with the money, don't even have the house to buy or rent because the government could not and cannot meet up the demand for housing.

Lagos is doing it, How much do you even think a 3-bedroom flat goes for in Lagos? this flat is a luxury one with decent and serene environment how much do you think those ones not owned by government within the area goes for?

Governance is not charity and the duty of any government is to provide the infrastructure. Any one earning 40k looking for a flat that costs 80k monthly should add armed robbery to his earnings.

Answer my question too, How many estates like the ones here are built or being built by any of your governors? or by the Federal Government?

the fact people are rushing the flats shows that the populace knows and appreciate that the flats comes at a give away price. The best price for the facilities and the location therein

Obinoscopy:
You still haven't answered my question .

Maybe I'll try again in restructuring the question for easy understanding. The question is:

Is there anyone among those living in these wonderful houses who earns 40K or thereabout per month?

A simple YES or NO would suffice. Thanks .

YES THEY DO.

THE FLATS ARE GIVEN OUT ON MORTGAGE TO LOW EARNERS.

THE ONE IN ODORANGUSHIN IS FOR MIDDLE-CADRE CAREER CIVIL SERVANTS.

Don't you think you question is funny? show me a flat with such allure and opulence built by any State Government in the South East that you're from.

Show us here, low cost buildings going for N50k per annum in any location in the state you're from or any built by Federal Government led by the PDP you have sworn to defend on this forum

The structures/flats are not for sale, they are mortgage based owned and Many civil Servants are benefiting and have benefitted and will still benefit from it. There is a deduction in their Monthly Salary that goes into the LSBC.

http://www.lagoshoms.gov.ng/ that is their website if you need further clarification. We don't just say it, we practice and live it.

Show me any State anywhere and even the Federal Government that has such revolving plans for its citizenry and its populace.

This are High-Class flats, the Lagos State Government has middle to low cost estates spread across the state that are occupied by Low cadre career civil servants.

Obinoscopy:
You still haven't answered my simple and innocuous question. Is it affordable to a man who earns 40K per month? I really want to know the economic strata of our society that can afford these wonderful houses built by Fashola.

I've more than answer your question. If people are occupying the properties then it shows it is a success. Everymonth people win and occupy this flats. Has anyone complained to you or how is it a problem to you? If he didn't build the houses won't people stay somewhere?

The flats are not empty, that simply tell you that it is a success story.

the demand is more than the supply so what is your issue.

Obinoscopy:
Is it affordable by the common man who pays his taxes and earns less than 40K per month? Now that's the question.

you deliberately moved this thread to properties from the more visited Politics Section that I created it to cover up your discomfort with the content.

But you and other bias and soulless mod like ngwakwe, seun and you obinoscopy are quick to send a personal editoral written by an Edo indigene posted by an insincere9jarian and quickly rushed to transfer it to the Front page.

Aren't you or any one who moved that particular thread to the front page bias and blind to the thread I created few hours later.

"https://www.nairaland.com/1988695/end-governance-abia-state-ubani" How does this defer from the one insincere9jarian created?
https://www.nairaland.com/1988195/seven-years-fashola-take-away

you can fool yourselves if you feel Nigerians will be kept in the dark and you continue to feed them lies and half-truths because you have the rights on the forum.

close it, block it the pictures are all there, it will take me time but I will report it back there. you transfer to properties because it was a success story of Fashola ba.



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you guys need to see the bias and clear partisanship of those moderating nairaland o. Obinoscopy made an envious and jealous ridden comment on this wonderful eye opening thread and the next thing he yanked it off to properties so that people won't see to juxtapose the rubbish editorial insincere9jarian posted that they rushed to put on front page.

Are these people serving Nigerians or doing some people a favour? if they say fashola collected a non-existing 600billion loan at least let people see where the loan that he truly collected is being spent on.

Obinoscopy:
Is it affordable by the common man who pays his taxes and earns less than 40K per month? Now that's the question.

you deliberately moved this thread to properties from the more visited Politics Section that I created it to cover up your discomfort with the content.

But you and other bias and soulless mod like ngwakwe, seun and you obinoscopy are quick to send a personal editoral written by an Edo indigene posted by an insincere9jarian and quickly rushed to transfer it to the Front page.

Aren't you or any one who moved that particular thread to the front page bias and blind to the thread I created few hours later.

"https://www.nairaland.com/1988695/end-governance-abia-state-ubani" How does this defer from the one insincere9jarian created?
https://www.nairaland.com/1988195/seven-years-fashola-take-away

you can fool yourselves if you feel Nigerians will be kept in the dark and you continue to feed them lies and half-truths because you have the rights on the forum.

close it, block it the pictures are all there, it will take me time but I will report it back there. you transfer to properties because it was a success story of Fashola ba.



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you guys need to see the bias and clear partisanship of those moderating nairaland o. Obinoscopy made an envious and jealous ridden comment on this wonderful eye opening thread and the next thing he yanked it off to properties so that people won't see to juxtapose the rubbish editorial insincere9jarian posted that they are rushed to put on front page.

Are these people serving Nigerians or doing some people a favour? if they say fashola collected a non-existing 600billion loan at least let people see where the loan that he truly collected is being spent on.

Obinoscopy:
Is it affordable by the common man who pays his taxes and earns less than 40K per month? Now that's the question.

I'm sure the Houses are occupied by Human Beings not Ghosts at the moment.

Cut you coat down to your size. the Duty of Government is to provide the Resources and the enabling environment for its citizenry.

How many people can afford to buy a piece of Land in Lagos, but here you are with Government providing its people with a Mortgage and pay back over time Housing Estate.

The choice is yours, If other Governors can do same to their citizens, I'm sure the pressure will be less on Lagos State and its people.

We are the Smallest state in land mass yet we carry the large burden of the Nation.

Let the FG through its Agencies provide similar facilities in states and you will see the prices of houses go down.

No be by Force to stay Lagos.

VOTE APC cos we don't just say it, We do it.

the Wind of Change is blowing close to you just feel it, imagine it and claim it.

Lagos is Working and Haters are hating.

Vote right, Vote APC come 2015

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