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Till now we are yet to hear any official version of what happened,yet arrests were made... charges were drawn up. Based on what now...

The fundamental issue is not just if they should have been arrested or not, it's what really happened...

How we refuse to be accountable in this country beats me,,, arresting people just like that and locking them up is not justice...justice is a response to what trully happened,so what happened really how did 35 children die at an event... how can we prevent this if we don't know, how do we establish guilt... how ?

The palace has established this was not her first time hosting such an event, they have showed tacit support bringing her good deeds to the limelight, her mother says she's been doing this for 10years.... that is dedication to a cause... what was different this year, what went wrong,

Something was different because the same factor repeated itself in 2 other different regions, that's the true answer we must seek to establish if crimes were perpetuated...

I'm concerned there may have been a Nigerian factor that overwhelmed these benefactors this time, like who anticipates people throwing children over a fence...

We must not let evil thrive and good people become overwhelmed by wrong actions of a multitude... the police investigation should help us all establish what trully happened and not just another set of random arrests of all involved , Nigeria should rise and be better by holding ALL accountable, this includes attendees of such events in future

And they want investors to take oyo seriously... instead of them to leverage on their proximity to Lagos to grow their childrens future

Lastly we also need the stories of the victims and the effect of this debacle on their lives, I have heard one or 2 really sad ones... the media should help with this so we don't brush aside their pain or grief

Also to serve as a clarion call and social reminder to all that plan to do give aways in future that it must be done responsibly, that no cost must be spared to ensure the safety and well being of those who participate, and new social rules may need to be enacted because people's lives and families are at stake in the matter

HitRun:
I said it. What was the purpose of the arrest of Ooni’s ex-wife. Now the police are trying to save face by arresting the priest and others. Nigerian police is just an embarrassment.

You are very correct, Investigations should have been conducted before detention....investigations would have come out with a clear report...

This same catholic church is said to do so many charity works, regularly over the course of the year, they pay hospital bills for those who cannot pay and many others, what was different about their charity this year that led to the stampede....

That question should have been answered before the police detains anyone for a crime.Our police force needs to rise up to better standards for arrests and detention

They should let those people be while a thorough investigation is ongoing, thereafter they can then show where a crime has happened and arrests culprits or those responsible with evidence....

Muric commenting on this is a hypocrite... did they ever call for arrests of organizers of events that had stampedes at Muslim celebration such as the eid give aways, or for the Nigerians that died in foreign land stampede during religious obligations?


His call for arrests must extend there too now, sebi what is good for the goose...

It is true we must seek justice in the land, but it must happen with a background of a detailed clear investigation and clear findings before arrests are made, so it is clear to all that justice happened or is happenning

While at it have there been stampede from eid that led to deaths in some or any states in the past, how were those resolved...

Standards, this is about the police finally setting standards for all to understand expectations...

Arresting and detaining people without investigations and reports cannot be right, what was different about this year's distribution and what should they have done....

This is also an opportunity for the police to issue out guidelines for palliative distribution, I seem to recall I read it was said palliative should not be distributed without security this December, was this issued before of after the incident?

Where there security persons there... as per standards who do we blame when the crowd overwhelms responders or service providers, what does the law say

Meanwhile have you seen Nigerians rush busses...

The real conversations are starting to happen

1. These high profile organizers are not a flight risk so could they have been made to visit the police while investigations are ongoing? Rather than outright reminding them if this was the case... not sure of their status as per arrests

2. The purpose of this is to ensure standards are defined for responsibilities in charity and not to stop them, so if someone sends money to the village for goodwill and there was a stampede, does that make him or the end organizers candidates for detention? What are the expectations

3. Let us remember this is the same nigeria that enables a stampede and beats up fire fighters on rescue mission, despite having no relevance or need to be at the venue of the fire and this they say happens despite police escort

4.the police should help define what and when and at what point the responsibilities of charity with challenges such as this makes a man culpable, so everyone knows what to avoid, while at it remember the poor also need help, what are the standards globally for cases such as this

While we are at it, was it true that people threw their kid's over the fence...

How did they plan to address crowd control? Did they have any plans ,were they implemented?

The fact that they planned to host 5000 people in a small place makes the organizers questionable to an extent..... but what were their plans.? They may have thought people would come and go in batches, and prepared for up to 5000 coming in and out, was there security? what really happened?

35 kids died so this must be thoroughly investigated, and new guidelines developed for hosting public events so it never happens again. The fact that it happened in 3 different regions means we need to adapt fast... and the police investigation is crucial to addressing this.


These are questions the police investigation must answer clearly....

They should also clarify if the donors and all organizers of the maitama and anambra fiasco were also arrested, let us remember that the abuja one cost 21 injuries, and 10 died so far.

By that logic, those too must have been poorly organized

Let us remember sarakis annual food sharing and it's antecedent incidents... last I checked he is still walking free

My point is the police should conduct a thorough investigation before remanding people in Agodi, and the same standards for culpability MUST apply to all. It's a FEDERAL police so the standards must be seen to be the same so everyone actually learns from it and understand what the expectations are in future

Anything short of this is witchhunting

This is sad,

Who were those directly responsible for the event planning

Event planners need to understand that when it comes to children you can't be too careful,Check and double check everything....

This particular case needs indepth investigation so we all learn from it.

That said did the ex queen hire event planners for this?

It was poorly managed,very poorly managed, it's a lesson for the rich to hire professionals and make them sign contracts that protect you and make them take responsibility legally for the event

For the record,the ex queens intentions were those befitting of a queen, if only it was better managed. Condolences to all that were bereaved in this matter.

Now we know the terrorist sympathizers in the north

As much as possible everyone and every bussiness that isn't in support of terrorism should boycot the airline

Nigeria should quickly open up the routes they run to other airlines

She missed her diplomacy lessons, very unbecoming of a leader, meanwhile her inferiority complex is screaming out loud for all to see.


In summary she's using her position of influence to SOW discord with her mouth
This one will sink ships with her mouth

Again the yorubas have described her type as an outsider aka omo ale... to think she's related to Awolowo somehow, that's the real shame,

Shameful indeed

When they tell you not to rely on chat got for your work ,you will not listen
..that is how adadevoh invented what again... Blood transfusion systems... Chat got does not mean it's peer reviewed,or validated, please take note before sharing

Looks like a PR post to launder her image, too late, we see her for who she is... the yorubas of old describe her type as the-omo ale to fi owo osi Juwe Ile baba e... translated, the bastard that described his or her father's house with the left hand..... and that is what it is... omo ale on the beat... she doesn't faze us , not one bit.. we rise!

Germany is a quiet world giant that is finally waking up

Looks like their finally putting things in place quietly for global
relevance in education, trade and recognition... Germany is finally connecting with the world in many ways... and becoming the go to place for the global community in many ways

Nigeria should sign great deals that opens up their space for our people in trade , employment, education and technology,

That said Germany makes very good products ,they should just work more on their racist tendencies

I hope you all know there were no cars in those days and people routinely trekked long distances, it was not a big deal. People trekked from lagos to Benin, lagos to ife and it took weeks .only the rich and warriors had horses.I heard stories of how our grandparents sourjened between cities in the west on foot routinely

The fulani still do it so we know it's possible

My point is, no one in the past will consider ife to benin or osun to ife a great distance.

Oduduwa came from somewhere trully faraway with a lot of follwers and met a great kingdom already populated with people...the king of ife was a prince of said oduduwa.

The most irritating part for me is the nerve to dare to shame African men proud of their traditions on their own turf... the nerve indeed.... immature clown.. I could go on ....

The OP must mean not to be worn for dates in the UK... I can imagine anyone in Lagos and Abuja dressing like her preferred candidate in the pictures would be profiled and arrested as a yahoo boy before they get to the destination of the said date.

Akata people should stick to their foreign traditions and let those of us on the mothers hip stick to our culture and tradition here. Classy and mature in Africa includes a classy type native to a date ( such as the one above)

Tennis shoes of any type by a responsible adult man to a serious meeting or date profiles you as immature, and disrespectful of traditions and culture, another way to put it is " not in tune with cultural expectations" in summary irresponsible and immature which one will expect from a fraudster incapable of taking himself or anyone for that matter seriously.

And yes it's our everyday wear here not for weddings and church only, now get-out and go and shame your fellow akata men with their weird and immature way of dressing. Don't be a Self hating African child.

budaatum:
And even if the 10 million pounds was legal, is there no university in Nigeria to give it to.



Then again, he was likely transferring knowledge.

He has given to many schools in Nigeria over decades...I hope they come out

The accuser must produce his proof, and have his day in court,the case must be fast, if he cannot provide irrefutable evidence,he must face the full wrath of the law,so others don't tow his path as he is setting a dangerous precedence.....

Ade has contributed too much to Nigeria to be charged falsely.... We are all watching

blacksam01:
Where did he get 10 million pounds from... Just where.... Even the most successful lawyers in the UK do not personally own 10 million pounds

You all know nothing about your country...nothing

Do you know anything about Ade babalolas philanthropy over the last 4 decades,

Afe babalolas buildt the entire nuclear medicine department in ibadan then for 500million naira,when dollar was below 150 to a naira, that's how people with cancer could start getting medical treatment with radiotherapy for the first time in a large part of the entire country

He donated so much to many tertiary institutions in Nigeria, large sums of money for their development.he did these quietly without fanfare,but they were in the news

He has left a legacy of work,I'm sure you all don't know how much such legal minds charge in Nigeria for cases,ask how much gani used to charge too...(Not the pro bono cases).

My point is the Nigerian business and professional space is not as poor as you all think it is.And this man is known for philanthropy to schools and universities

Are there good people in that State,they should get those women out.

Their husbands died for defending the people,their family should not suffer for it while the bandits live in peace with the women in perpetual torture

Whoever has any power in the matter should use it for good for the sake of those women.

RealGandalf:
Una just dey display too much stark illiteracy. Is kidnapping not happening in Lagos, the entire southwest and all over Nigeria?

It doesn't happen always in Kogi State. Many times, it is people from neighbouring states that pepertrate the act.

This is denial on a whole new level,I can't believe the audacity.... Kogi is synonymous with kidnapping,people with means don't travel Abuja to Lagos by road because of primarily the KOGI axis, how does passengers from a whole luxurious bus get kidnapped with no State response. Even Ondo would have sent amotekun. Lagos would have sent out choppers....

The same Kogi dares to host a so called international carnival.... That's a joke and a scam.international indeed

A reminder again to leave all matters that increase personal income tax and VAT out of this matter. Nigerians and Nigerian businesses need a break not increased taxation

Whatever they want to do with VAT collected does not concern me

But let's all know it pays the poor masses to have VAT collected and disbursed in each State and LGA that way host communities will respect income generating ventures in their community,jobs will also be created

Kogi and international carnival in one sentence. That's an oxymoron.

Which international clown does not take his life and brand seriously to go to or send teams to kogi for a carnival?

Was it not this week an entire luxurious bus was kidnapped? They should be deceiving themselves. Tourism is not their thing, they should address their insecurity by their boys first,full stop

The person who opened this thread should be identified and arrested.

The police should do the needful,it's inciting violence against the police online.the police should be able to make arrest that protects it's team,it's not only when they attack them physically. This one is more damaging as he's promoting a negative culture outrightly....and getting others to endorse it

Riskymarvelous:
Mali ,,Chad Burkina Faso,, Senegal cut the tie with France because they are after their mineral resources now Tinubu one of the most useless president in the went there to go and sign deal with them

Their existing deal with France was a pre colonial one,it was very very bad,it was in their interest to cut it off,but I think they went about it the wrong way.... I mean they are still spending cefa backed by France cbn, that's how you know they are clowns with no knowledge of international politics


No country or individual can sign such useless deal in this day and age,except they cannot read or they are very dense.

The allocation aspect of bill is good for northern Nigeria and the country,

It's simple they have to request every business sorts out their VAT collected and pay to them,they would need to have local offices in their states,that's more employment for their people.The north does not know that the biggest business earners in Nigeria actually have significant northern presence.

But they have no or few moribound physical offices in the north. This will bring jobs for northerners....

I'm summary the northern masses are fighting the wrong battle, back this up and watch your governors drag those businesses and their management back to the north.

Buccalcavity2:
Please read the bill. The bill is not adding any new tax, rather taking away several taxes and streamlining the main tax. It exempts tax payment for the vulnerable, reduces for the middle class and increases for the elite. It reduces CIT (that's for the elite) and exempts tax payment from production.
The only part of increasing VAT is even in the future not in the immediate.
Why not now?

I don't care what the country does with it's federal allocation structure, mine is now is not the time to increase any business tax. Businesses are struggling, it's also not the time to increase personal income tax for any cadre of Nigerians, EVERYONE in Nigeria has taken a PAYCUT and it's continuing on every side, salary for staffs have increased etc even the rich are humans too....

Lastly you all should stop comparing Nigeria to Mali and burkinafaso, a state in Nigeria is more organized and has more self awareness than those people.

Have you seen their so called generals dress up and speak in the public space...those are the people that make them call Africa backward.... Not Nigeria