MaxInDHouse:
When i said he was never a JW he picked at me.

Isn't it clear that the article was referring to those who never had the opportunity to hear God's message?
Even a dummy knows that whoever has heard but rejected the message of Jesus' disciples has been judged already! John 3:18

So they're not expected in the new world since they won't like to accept Jesus' counsel which is vital for their salvation!

Even a dummy knows that it is bad to lie to people when you go out in field just in a bid to getting their listening ears. Good thing you've said that those who rejected the message has been judged already. So, what then makes you LIE to a householder when you get to hear that they've lost a loved one in death. Same person you may have been preaching to prior to their death yet they refuse to listen. You've said it yourself that they won't be accepted into the new world.

So, why do you lie??! Why do you lie and open Acts 24:15 telling their family member that Jehovah will resurrect them and that they'll see their loved one again. Why??!

Aemmyjah:


Truth is I won't follow you
With your level of reasoning and negative critical, bitter attitude, you want me to follow you
Follow you to where?
Show me where I said other religious group are wicked people
You're bitter. It's only you that is suffering from it and not me

Hahahahahahaha. Wahala dey o. . We will say this one, you'll twist it to another level. You said I should show you the denomination that does what you already listed. Abi na for.your house you wan dey see them? I said I wanted to show you and you'll have to come. Now, you are brining in another talk.

Nahhh! You [s]shouldn't follow me with my level of reasoning and bitterness [/s]. If I direct you to the place, you go gree go? Hahaha.

You claim I'm bitter, yet you are here arguing with me. Assuming you saw me in the field ministry nau, you'll just keep our conversations very brief as instructed by the GB and then go and call your elders later. But now na, since na online, you don come get time to type anything wey you like yet you are calling me bitter.

Let me tell you who's bitter. A strong JW who has the time to argue with people he tags as apostates.

Aemmyjah:


Okay
First come and show me which denomination it is but remember to use the Bible as a map to explain why they are the true religion. Then I'll join you

[s]See say sense de worry you
In God's eyes, there are 3 groups
The righteous
The unrighteous
The WICKED[/s]

Ours is to carry out God's assignment to help many come to have an accurate knowledge of the truth and be SAVED

For God loved the world so much that he sent his only begotten son that those who believe in him may not perish but have EVERLASTING LIFE

This means everlasting life, their coming to know you the only true God and the one whom you sent, jesus christ

You reason backwards, we help people to attain to righteousness and the name of righteous people are in the BOOK OF LIFE and when they die, they will be brought to a resurrection of life and not JUDGMENT. In other words,it will be easy for them to continue faithful cos they were faithful under tests when alive
Were you sleeping or you skipped the part that says that even perfect people should not feel that they already have life. They must demonstrate by obedience. Adam and eve were perfect but lost the prospect of everlasting life.
Everlasting life is for those WHO PROVED TO BE FAITHFUL

Is that not the illustration used at the back of the magazine under Questions Readers Ask using that of granting visa to foreigners.
Only those who proved Worthy by conduct can be allowed permanent residence. You have nothing to say

You want me to promise you to follow you?! I laugh you in efik language

At the bolded! You see?? Here we go again!! . If you no sey you no go fit come when I show you the denomination you are asking of, then stop decieving yourself.

And to the message I stroked through! Oh! You've now agreed that the WICKED are part of the group of people, abi?

And who said the righteous will be brought to a resurrection of judgement? Abi na you dey read backwards.

Oga! People wey don die (since you no understand English again), people wey una don tag as 'wicked people', when they die and you carry that your two leg go field service dey tell their people sey dem go see that their loved one again. Is that a lie or not a lie?? Na you use your hand type sey wicked people dey ooo. Those will be destroyed, abi? Wetin make you come dey preach rubbish outside dey tell people sey dem go see that their loved one wey you don already label as wicked and deserving of destruction..

Aemmyjah:


Lol, if they were our leaders, they would be proud to say it but they are not. They are slaves in the eyes of Christ
I guess you have a copy of the Enjoy Life Forever book on your phone
I think lesson 14 or so which talks about how the congregation is organized says something about the Governing Body. Why not screenshot it and share that part that says they are our leaders...

Lemme educate you son
In the eyes of the people outside,when people say they are from this church, what comes to mind is the names of the GO
If I say Winners, people think of Oyedepo
If I say Redeemed, people think of Adeboye
If I say Deeper life, people think of kumuyi
If I say Eckanker, people think of Klemp
If I say Catholic, people think of a priest or pope or other leaders
If I say Muslim, an imam comes to mind too
If I say Christ embassy, people think of Oyakhilome
Religion have leaders, people know them, some venerate them. Of course, you can't address them as Brother Oyedepo or Brother Adeboye

Many don't know how Jehovah's Witnesses are organised yet we have the most unique organization. It is mostly online when they search about us that they learn we have a governing body. Some come to the meetings, they can't even say who is an elder or not. We all blend. We don't distinguish ourselves from another. These governing body members also preach and have bible students and they are humble. They don't challenge government or make loud presence they are in town. If the leader of another religion is coming to your town, the whole town will hear. If the governing body are coming to your town,how many people besides Witnesses will learn about it? You need prayers for yourself bro.
To be honest, you need to pray

Jesus promised to appoint a faithful slave to dispense food in the time of the end. They are proud to be that slave. Their food are free in form of Bible based publications. Why not compare other group spiritual food to ours? Mention one other group with rich, free food

Which other group can explain Daniel dream image?
Which other group can tell you that both the righteous and the unrighteous who died will be reunited with their dead loved ones?

Go and pray bro. Go and pray for that person you see in your mirror

The governing body claims to be slaves of Christ and leaders of the JW members. If you are too blind to see the hierarchy, let me explain it to you.

From the Governing body - highest of them all who dispenses food.

The food goes down to other top members. The bethelites, circuit overseers...etc.

Down to the elders. To the ministerial servants and then to the other members. This completely explains why I can't read scriptures and find something that isn't in support of what the GB says and the next thing a strong Jw will tell me is 'wait for the food to be dispensed at the proper time'. In essence, the food can not be directly dispensed to members of the denomination BUT MUST PASS THROUGH THE GOVERNING BODY FIRST! And if they've not had it approved, if they've not seen the new light, NO OTHER PERSON is expected to see it!

Let me tell you the difference between you and the other denominations/religion you mentioned. They, they've got one person they look up to. Yours is a bunch of about 8 old men who y'all look up to. They do the thinking for y'all. If e never reach time to get new light, no other person can have it..

Yeye dey smell

Aemmyjah:


Show us where the article said the righteous are those that did not LISTEN TO THE WORD OF JW. You've become a malicious liar already
I believe in miracles. You said I don't. I pray to God each day for daily bread and many things and he answers them, also a miracle. When I'm sick or a friend is sick, I pray as well. I put Faith in all my prayers. Sometimes my prayers are answered in way I bow in appreciation
Now listen good, faithhealing of today is done in churches, some mosques and traditional shrines as well. Which one are you talking about? If I choose not to go, it should not pain you.
Mention one church that does faithhealing today and the kind of miracles done there. You cannot even mention. Just ranting blablabla

Our teachings are solely from he bible. We don't add traditional ideas or philosophy.
Mention the other group that has the truth
A real christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus christ preached and gave his disciples work and noted that the work will be done ALL OVER THE EARTH. He also said his disciples will be hated, imprisoned, taken to court for their faith and they will be ACTIVELY preaching the goodnews of GOD'S KINGDOM during the last days. Tell me which other group meet these today
The Governing Body are not our leaders. Jesus christ is leader. They only oversee the activities and directs the organization

Now, see where your foolishness comes to play even though you were raised a Witness
All of Jehovah's Witnesses know we have a governing body but many don't even know them, their number or even one of their name or the place they operate. The convention during the pandemic helped us get to know them better. If not, many more wouldn't have known and see how they dressed, spoke. Will you compare it to the religious leaders around you? They did not dress different like the local congregation elders. Their words were not carried in pomp on social media and youtube as if it was God. During the pandemic, what were other religious group trying to force the government to do? Many churches open e-money platforms. We bought thousands of license from Zoom so we could meet together and don't forget that even before the government could think of what to do, we were already using zoom and had to stop physical meetings and public ministry. Compare what Jehovah's Witnesses have done during the pandemic and the others.
Churches were shouting that covid-19 is hoax, none should put on nose mask, receive vaccines. Some even said that they rather closed down markets but religious places be opened. During the protests that same year, we didn't engage or support the conflict or post ENDSARS banner in our Hall or hold services in the Streets. You yourself cannot deny that God's people have proven to be distinct from their contemporaries
You're like a student, for some reasons, he did not want to continue in a school perhaps he wants to join another one of a lower standard so he could do as he pleases. Instead of just leaving, he wants to drag the name of the school into the mud by throwing up lies. He has ego feeling like a Prince to leave but he is so blind to see that many who had stopped going to the School before (inactive) had started coming back and new ones are applying for admission. His pride did not enable him see all of that. Even the best facilities and best teachers are so annoying to him

Nothing you are saying adds up. Since everyone is acquitted of their sin after death, what you are saying is EVERYONE WHO HAS DIED will be resurrected. So, where's your point about the righteous and the unrighteous and where does the grouping come from?? I wonder why then you are going everywhere preaching to people to be part of the JW denomination if they all will be resurrected. And resurrected to everlasting life.

I know that una line. 'Show me which denomination....'. I told you I'll show you. But promise me you'll come and attend their religious services to be sure. Promise?

Aemmyjah:


Show us where the article said the righteous are those that did not LISTEN TO THE WORD OF JW. You've become a malicious liar already
I believe in miracles. You said I don't. I pray to God each day for daily bread and many things and he answers them, also a miracle. When I'm sick or a friend is sick, I pray as well. I put Faith in all my prayers. Sometimes my prayers are answered in way I bow in appreciation
Now listen good, faithhealing of today is done in churches, some mosques and traditional shrines as well. Which one are you talking about? If I choose not to go, it should not pain you.
Mention one church that does faithhealing today and the kind of miracles done there. You cannot even mention. Just ranting blablabla

Our teachings are solely from he bible. We don't add traditional ideas or philosophy.
Mention the other group that has the truth
A real christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. Jesus christ preached and gave his disciples work and noted that the work will be done ALL OVER THE EARTH. He also said his disciples will be hated, imprisoned, taken to court for their faith and they will be ACTIVELY preaching the goodnews of GOD'S KINGDOM during the last days. Tell me which other group meet these today
The Governing Body are not our leaders. Jesus christ is leader. They only oversee the activities and directs the organization

Now, see where your foolishness comes to play even though you were raised a Witness
All of Jehovah's Witnesses know we have a governing body but many don't even know them, their number or even one of their name or the place they operate. The convention during the pandemic helped us get to know them better. If not, many more wouldn't have known and see how they dressed, spoke. Will you compare it to the religious leaders around you? They did not dress different like the local congregation elders. Their words were not carried in pomp on social media and youtube as if it was God. During the pandemic, what were other religious group trying to force the government to do? Many churches open e-money platforms. We bought thousands of license from Zoom so we could meet together and don't forget that even before the government could think of what to do, we were already using zoom and had to stop physical meetings and public ministry. Compare what Jehovah's Witnesses have done during the pandemic and the others.
Churches were shouting that covid-19 is hoax, none should put on nose mask, receive vaccines. Some even said that they rather closed down markets but religious places be opened. During the protests that same year, we didn't engage or support the conflict or post ENDSARS banner in our Hall or hold services in the Streets. You yourself cannot deny that God's people have proven to be distinct from their contemporaries
You're like a student, for some reasons, he did not want to continue in a school perhaps he wants to join another one of a lower standard so he could do as he pleases. Instead of just leaving, he wants to drag the name of the school into the mud by throwing up lies. He has ego feeling like a Prince to leave but he is so blind to see that many who had stopped going to the School before (inactive) had started coming back and new ones are applying for admission. His pride did not enable him see all of that. Even the best facilities and best teachers are so annoying to him

Carry your blinded reasoning and shift to one side. And you are the LIAR and the confused FELLOW who thinks he/she knows a lot about the denomination. E go soon clear for your eye. No worry. You pray to God each day and he gives you food. Yeah? Food like he gave the Israelites? Abi na manna you dey talk about? Hahahaha. Issorite.

Go out there and keep DECIEVING and lying to people. Keep on with the hypocrisy ehh! Your governing bodies will reward you.

The governing body are YOUR LEADERS!! If they don't dispense food at the proper time, you don't eat them. You wait for them to come and spoon feed you and as smart as you think you are, you are just gullible! As gullible as others who keep sticking to them like glue sticks to paper.

Aemmyjah:


Again, you have been talking nonsense since morning
First, you said nonsense regarding my beliefs in miracles
Second, regarding the scriptures and the resurrection
Now you say I'm not here for long
Don't use your own problem to judge me

If your buttocks is aching from sitting in a bus for too long does not mean that others are experiencing the same thing. If you like, you fit drop

Yeah. Coming from someone who said same thing some hours ago. Keep stabbing yourself in the back in a bid to playing smart.

Next time when you see my post, avoid it. Because that belief system you claim to know, I've known it way more than you and I've researched about them. Before you go out there and LIE to people that you beleive in miracles, I've already known you were about to mention miracle of life, miracle of waking up, miracle of all the rubbish they've told you to say!!

And before you start twisting what the watchtower said about the righteous and the unrighteous, I had already known them all.

It's you. I'll urge you to sit and do more research because you are confused. Even the common difference between the righteous and unrighteous, you left that one and went ahead to focus on two words I mentioned because na Bible wey I quote nau wey you suppose see the words word for word in the WT article.

Claiming to comfort people when you've already condemned them in your heart and placed them in the 'destruction' category. Wetin you know sey you wan go tell person about resurrection again. Someone dies, someone who had been against listening to the JWs ever since. You hear sey the person don die, you carry that your two left leg go dey claim sey you dey console in people about resurrection. WHICH RESURRECTION AGAIN?? THE ONE YOU PEOPLE HAVE SAID THOSE WHO DON'T LISTEN WILL BE FOR EVERLASTING CUTTING OFF??

Rubbish!

Aemmyjah:


Again, you have been talking nonsense since morning
First, you said nonsense regarding my beliefs in miracles
Second, regarding the scriptures and the resurrection
Now you say I'm not here for long
Don't use your own problem to judge me

If your buttocks is aching from sitting in a bus for too long does not mean that others are experiencing the same thing. If you like, you fit drop

Yeah. Coming from someone who said same thing some hours ago. Keep stabbing yourself in the back in a bid to playing smart.

Next time when you see my post, avoid it. Because that belief system you claim to know, I've known it way more than you and I've researched about them. Before you go out there and LIE to people that you beleive in miracles, I've already known you were about to mention miracle of life, miracle of waking up, miracle of all the rubbish they've told you to say!!

And before you start twisting what the watchtower said about the righteous and the unrighteous, I had already known them all.

It's you. I'll urge you to sit and do more research because you are confused. Even the common difference between the righteous and unrighteous, you left that one and went ahead to focus on two words I mentioned because na Bible wey I quote nau wey you suppose see the words word for word in the WT article.

Claiming to comfort people when you've already condemned them in your heart and placed them in the 'destruction' category. Wetin you know sey you wan go tell person about resurrection again. Someone dies, someone who had been against listening to the JWs ever since. You hear sey the person don die, you carry that your two left leg go dey claim sey you dey console in people about resurrection. WHICH RESURRECTION AGAIN?? THE ONE YOU PEOPLE HAVE SAID THOSE WHO DON'T LISTEN WILL BE FOR EVERLASTING CUTTING OFF??

Rubbish!

Aemmyjah:


See this guy o
To be honest, I've taken some of their pamphlet
The majority I read is about repentance and going to heaven to avoid hellfire
Some, I asked them to tell me what the pamphlet is about, they simply ask me to go through it. I asked them again, they begin to read it and tell me. I ask why they give out something without knowing the content
Some ask for contribution
Some people are beginning to campaign for political parties

. You've taken their pamphlet with all the sentiments in your heart! I hear you! This is thesame stupid excuse you people keep giving.

I have met a couple of people who came to me to preach. They offered to start with a prayer, discussed about what the pamphlet was all about, before leaving the pamphlet with me.

Na so one brother give excuse sey their pamphelts don't always have Bible verses in them . That was his reason for not reading them. This one is your own reason.

Funny enough, na just one or two persons wey you manage collect pamplet from.

And to your other excuses.
If you read about repentance and going to avoid heaven and hellfire. Wetin come happen? The ones you send out for people to read, you think they beleive in all the gibberish you people write there before collecting, abi??
Your second point. Pot calling kettle black! Same thing you guys do out there in the field. Just go and regurgitate suggestions given at the theocratic ministry school and you are good to go!
Some ask for contribution, is that not what YOU PEOPLE DO TOO??!
Some are campaining for political parties. Eheh

You never start yet.

Aemmyjah:


Lol
I wanted you to pinpoint where the article says that those that did not accept the 'word of JW' or what you wrote about the wicked
Did you not see that the article said that Jesus reads hearts. He himself will judge based in FACTS. Liar

What then is the right thing to have done to the Olumba woman that was grieving? I wonder what you'll have said if the sister had chosen to just walk past her. We love people, we preach to them and comfort many from the scriptures. Someone was grieving and someone went to comfort her from God's word and you're tormented. That is what I tell other people too

I met a lecturer in my department last week, for over 4 years I been in the school, no student has been close to the woman cos she is overly strict. Worst of all, her son died. It added to her madness, she even stopped a student from writing exams cos he was a bit late. All the invigilator and lecturers begged her but she won't listen (Even the HOD wey no de send fears the woman), she said that if death can separate her son from her, she won't allow the boy enter the exams. Imagine! No student likes the woman and even if you try to become close to her, the result will be like playing with a viper, it will sting you. Some said it is good she lost him so she will be calming down
Last week, I was asked to help her Carry her luggage cos she now walk with a cane. She was moody and that day was the 3rd year she lost her son, I was crushed. She came to mark exams but images of the boy troubled her that she could not. I knew I could comfort her from the scriptures but I was fearful. I prayed for courage. I put the bag in the car and asked her for a minute. My heart was beating so fast that my jaws became heavy.
I told her I'm sorry for her son and understood how she felt but she should not worry much cos it would affect her and the Bible gives hope of a resurrection and the Bible won't lie, she will see him again. She was really crying and opening up to me like a child, I was almost moved too for the old woman. She talked about him for several minutes, thanked me and drove off.
When my colleagues heard that Emmanuel preached to that Dr, their eyes gleamed in disbelief. I wondered how I was able to speak to her but maybe it was a MIRACLE

in this last days, people need hope and comfort. We share it with them but if you don't like it, it is your own problem.

To the bolded. Nice way to twist a discussion. Keep dropping long stupid stories for yourself to read, not me. I don screenshot watchtower for you, you have anything else to say. If it isn't the word of the JWs, who's word is it? Do your GB have to spoon feed you for you to understand that it's only the JW teachings that are seen as the truth?? Do they have to spoon feed you for you to understand that it's only the JW teachings that are seen to come from the Bible. Dey dey dey quote wetin you no understand. Na only una be true christians nau.

When you finish from here, insulting and replying people, you'll go out there and keep lying to people telling them about resurrection.

And about the miracle stuff, dey there dey confuse yourself up and down. You beleive in miracle of life, you don't believe in faith healing. You beleive in child bearing as a miracle. Keep confusing yourself ehh. Because when scriptures documented miracles, they were talking about the miracle of life.

Courz:


What used to burst my brain is why they call their meetings Study? What are you studying? The meeting has questions and answers must come from the Watchtower and publications only. They want you to make comments but you must say exactly what is in the publication.

I have been to a couple of JW FB groups and these people are Toxic! You wouldn't believe these are the same people that are part of God's organization. The kind of comments they make, I don't think a lot of them are normal. If you make mistake to visit those their JW singles group, those are even worse.

Exactly!! Exactly!! Same observation here! They only regurgitate. Because just how do you tell someone to say what they understand yet give them a guide on how to answer what they understand?

And about the FB groups! Their toxicity no be here! Sometimes, I keep asking myself, 'are these really JWs??'

Aemmyjah:


Lol
Why will I lie?
Unless the bible is a record of lies
Show me any other group that tells that the righteous will be resurrected
Those who served Jehovah faithfully and ACCORDING TO HIS STANDARDS are righteous in his eyes
Why not go and find a group you know that comfort people with truth
Stop speaking as if you knew the deceased with your childish assumptions. The woman is dead. So stop your what ifs cos you're not an 8 year old. It is one thing to hear a message, it is another thing to understand and another entirely to accept it. You don't have all the facts. Ours is to preach to all sorts of people, we don't judge anyone. We only preach
Merciful Jehovah does not condemn her. Did you not read the when we die, we're acquitted from sins?
Why mention governing body? The resurrection hope had been something that faithful servant of old looked forward to like Job. Jesus too mentioned it, Paul did, Jehovah himself promised to do so and we as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES tell others that comforting message. It is like our work is really tormenting you. Judas was tormented when Jesus took sides with the woman that poured him perfumed oil. So angry that he left to do what pleases him

. In don change topic. You are no longer arguing about the unrighteous phrase.

You don't judge people but when you see others preaching, you start gossiping with other JWs and mocking the people you see!

Oh! Tell me if judgement has another meaning o

Funny enough, you that's talking eh, you know very little about the JW belief system. After our discussion, calm down eh and read that you people's 'reasoning from the scriptures' book (since that is what you people are really good at). Enter jw library app, do more research. Common unrighteous and righteous people, you dey here dey confuse yourself up and down.

Yes. Jehovah's witnesses tell others the comforting message. Thesame others that when they've heard one of them died, they'll keep reaffirming scriptures that talk about the wicked being destroyed forever. Dey there dey decieve yourself!

Funny enough, you may not have been in for long. Because I know una type well well. These newly converted fellows/fairly new converted fellows, na una dey carry am for head ehhh. Carry rubbish on your head that you don't understand.

Courz:


That Janosky with his Maggot infested brain smokes igbo before replying anyone. His responses are usually scattered.

Honestly! . I keep wondering where he came out from sef.

Aemmyjah:


See where you did not have sense?!
Baby
You said the unrighteous are the ones that did not accept the word of JW. is that what the article said? Deliberate liar

You have problems. The watchtower was the best for me this year (the one held the other Sunday)
The righteous are those who served Jehovah faithfully
The unrighteous had no faithful record but they will be resurrected. It includes those who never served Jehovah, those who knew God but did not have sufficient time to serve him.
Who is the ministry should we judge as unrighteous or wicked?
You're like a child dying for independence, he will never see any good dad and mum does or say. Even the kindest words will be irritating to him.
It does not please you that even bad people that died will be given a second chance. You're free to meet the group that tells you that bad ones are boiling in hellfire cos they study with a liberal mind

. Someone is obviously confused. I've not contradicted myself anywhere o. So, it's surprising to me that you don't understand the simple English I've typed.

Chai!

Everything you've insulted me about today. That's exactly what you are. The deliberate liar! That's exactly what you are! The child seeking independence! That's exactly what you are.

Courz:


At the bolded, if you see the way they comment, like better people that can't hurt a fly. They barely even practice what they comment on. Hypocrites. Fornicators and adulterers full that Cult! Even some of their beloved Freemason Governing body members are gay and Pedophiles! Disgusting!

I'm telling you! Stupid people everywhere!! If you see them in FB groups with the way they insult non believers eh, you'll keep wondering if these are thesame set of people that come out to fake smiles for householders.

Funny thing is, they keep criticizing other denominations when they DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE CRITICIZING THESE PEOPLE FOR! Segregating rubbish, calling other people wicked, calling them wordlies.
Yeye people.

Aemmyjah:


Do you see where you don't have any sense?
Look at the last comment you dropped that I asked you to share shots esp what you said about the unrighteous and the wicked and compare. Stop thinking with infant understanding.
Maybe screenshooting your last post and comparing it with this one will make you see your stupid lies

The screenshot plainly stated that the unrighteous will be resurrected and will need to learn about Jesus Christ. It also mentioned that these were those who did not have sufficient opportunity to know about Jehovah. And by that, that watchtower is specifically referring to the JW teaching. Because obviously, y'all don't see any other Christian teaching as coming from Jehovah.

So, you claiming the householder's sister who had died was classified as unrighteous shows that you either don't read your watchtower or you are utterly CONFUSED! The woman's sister HAD HEARD THE PREACHING, UNDERSTOOD WHAT IT WAS ALL ABOUT, YET DECIDED TO GO ON IN HER RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION. Where's the unrighteous classification coming from?

Or are you saying everyone will be resurrected? Abi are you saying that your governing body has told you people that everyone will be resurrected?

When you go out to lie to people in a bid to comforting them, don't forget that hypocrisy is another sin!!

Aemmyjah:



Lol
Mention apostates that leave and found peace na
Who told you we don't study the scriptures with a liberal heart
Why am I even conversating with your nonsense
You are not speaking with a right mind
People are praising us for scriptural knowledge
Many are begging us to study with them and their children
Mention the group known to preach like Jehovah's Witnesses
We preach from door to door, truck to truck (in ports), villages, islands, prisons, informally, marketsquare. Have you not seen that our brothers and sisters in Ukraine have carried out their ministry joyfully and they share stories how the war is making people ask questions which they answer and many who will not accept them are now listening. The other religions are supporting and praying for victories in the wars

People that preach simply drop a pamphlet or invitation cos 'a powerful man of God' is coming. Is that preaching
When you start your 'liberal' study, maybe you may go and tell the Olumba woman that her sister is actually burning in hellfire or you stop using God's name.
A friend traveled to Qatar. It is entirely muslim but the brothers meet there and preach informally.
Which other group are preaching today? All of us preach including the governing body members. Show us one GO that has ever gone out to the street

To the bolded phrase. Oh! You wan run?? Come and talk! Come and defend the denomination. Since you have all the time to type and reply me, continue replying to my 'nonesense'.

Another gibberish. 'People that preach only drop a pamphlet'. If they ask you to give them time to explain what's in the pamphlet, you go gree! You go gree??! Even to touch the pamphlet sef, you'll see it as something very disgusting. Even those who preach, if they come to your house and preach to you, will you listen Will you??

. Shey you wan argue today. You never see anything. Sit down and type all the insults you have behind your keypad since you no get wetin to do. Sit down and argue with someone you've tagged as a follower who doesn't know what he/she is up to. Argue! Shey you be baba for argument. Stay and argue! Idiat!!

Janosky:


Has Jesus Christ carried out 2 Thess1:7-9?
No.
Has Jesus Christ fulfilled Acts 24:15?
No.
Every Servant of Jehovah knows that everyone JWs meet in the preaching work (whether the person listens to the preaching today or not), that individual is a potential sheep of Jehovah, (John 6:44) until Jesus strikes in fulfilment of 2 Thess1:7-9,You have the option to continue WAILING.



Acts 24:15 knock sense into you but you are just very empty , just deceiving yourself & WAILING

Errm. Where are you coming from, please? Go and sleep. You are not worth my attention. Thank you.

Aemmyjah:


Now I see, it is like you are dull in reading and understanding
I don't know which Watchtower article mentions that
Max, pls come and confirm what this guy is saying
If I may ask,how old are you sef?
You're really amusing
Why not share screenshot showing all these nonsense you say about the bad and good ones

Yes,share the screenshot so everyone can see
Pathetic liar like you deliberately distorting something learned just yesterday and last Sunday. What a shame

Show us where it says that the unrighteous are those that did not accept the word of JW? Is that what the Bible call unrighteous?

I think there's something motivating and driving you crazy against sthe Faith, you're free to go or do you want me to beg you
See the stupid lies you dropped. Even a man that half his Brain is paralysed won't say this is what we study. Such a liar
Liars like you won't feel comfortable so you can fly

Explain what you see here about the unrighteous. Watchtower, you no dey read. Bible, you no dey read! Keep floating and claiming you have a personal relationship with God!

MaxInDHouse:


The God of Israel has no business with any gentile {Zechariah 8:23} so if you're not tied to an organization you're deceiving yourself! Luke 11:23

. Wooow! Just woooow!

Aemmyjah:


Now I see, it is like you are dull in reading and understanding
I don't know which Watchtower article mentions that
Max, pls come and confirm what this guy is saying
If I may ask,how old are you sef?
You're really amusing
Why not share screenshot showing all these nonsense you say about the bad and good ones

Yes,share the screenshot so everyone can see
Pathetic liar like you deliberately distorting something learned just yesterday and last Sunday. What a shame

Show us where it says that the unrighteous are those that did not accept the word of JW? Is that what the Bible call unrighteous?

I think there's something motivating and driving you crazy against sthe Faith, you're free to go or do you want me to beg you
See the stupid lies you dropped. Even a man that half his Brain is paralysed won't say this is what we study. Such a liar
Liars like you won't feel comfortable so you can fly

When you go out in field tomorrow nau, you'll carry bag and start faking smiles with householders. Yet, here you are calling me a liar and saying my brain is paralysed. Go and settle down and reread that watchtower eh. Because na una type go just raise hand DEY ANSWER RUBBISH FOR MEETINGS! RUBBISH YOU'VE BEEN TOLD TO REGURGITATE!

Aemmyjah:


Now I see, it is like you are dull in reading and understanding
I don't know which Watchtower article mentions that
Max, pls come and confirm what this guy is saying
If I may ask,how old are you sef?
You're really amusing
Why not share screenshot showing all these nonsense you say about the bad and good ones

Yes,share the screenshot so everyone can see
Pathetic liar like you deliberately distorting something learned just yesterday and last Sunday. What a shame

Show us where it says that the unrighteous are those that did not accept the word of JW? Is that what the Bible call unrighteous?

I think there's something motivating and driving you crazy against sthe Faith, you're free to go or do you want me to beg you
See the stupid lies you dropped. Even a man that half his Brain is paralysed won't say this is what we study. Such a liar
Liars like you won't feel comfortable so you can fly

Stop insulting yourself.

This is an excerpt from the last watchtower study article.
'Additionally, “the unrighteous,” such as those who did not have sufficient opportunity to know Jehovah or to serve him faithfully before they died, will be raised to “a resurrection of judgment.” WHICH PART OF IT IS THE LIE ABOUT HOW THE JW DENOMINATION DEFINES THE UNRIGHTEOUS.

And here's you who doesn't know what to say telling me that people who've heard and not practiced what they've heard are grouped as part of the UNRIGHTEOUS..

You are the pathetic liar here because you are confused. Hypocrite!

Aemmyjah:


As for the hypocrites among us who do things in secret or openly
Jehovah himself will punish them in his own due time no matter what privilege they handle. God is not Man
He did such to Eli's children in ancient times, he did same to Ananias and Sapphira
Note that Jehovah does not desire any to perish, it is our hope that these ones realise what they are doing and repent and take the appropriate steps
Many are already doing so already including elders. That one is far better than living in sin and being judged by God. Jehovah is love and not quick to react like man. Remember how he handle King David case

If you like, go anywhere you like, will I beg you? Stop acting like a child. You will go and not feel regret. Jehovah does not force anyone so na me go come beg you

When you find that God you want to find, I hope you'll follow all his command and principles including the one at Matthew 24:14. Maybe the God you will find is the one that asks you to give all the monies you have or sow seeds and to judge others.
I tell you that you will not find any other group that come close to Jehovah Witnesses. Even Courz can't mention his own cos he is ashamed. Many like you have boldly taken the same step. Some have returned and they tell us the stories. It reminds of the prodigal son who was eager to live his life in a far country. He thought he was happy at first and you know the rest (if you even know the story at all cos your level of bible understanding is baffling to me especially for someone that grew up in a JW family)
I wish you well in your 'search'

Look at the bolded phrase. The question is 'if another denomination tells you this same thing, will you accept it? WILL YOU? Or will you go about saying there's a lot of wrong already and as such this opinion doesn't make sense?'

And to your second paragraph, I don't need your validation to stay or leave. And I don't need to be part of this denomination to worship God. You talked about leaving hence my reason for mentioning what I mentioned.

Prodigal yen yen yen. Do you want me to mention 'apostates' that have left and have found PEACE? Those that have understood that worshipping God does not come from being wired to some stupid denominational belief system. The very ones who keep introducing the new light every now and then but will criticize a member for finding a new light before the governing body finds it?

You think it's by moving from door to door uninvited to people's houses to preach to them, right? Go and visit non Christian locality and have them converted to christians.

Funny enough, when you see other people preach in buses, in busy locations, and even from house to house, you criticize them and say they ain't doing it the right way. Oya nau, when you don't see them preach, you still criticize!! Na una sabi oo.

The moment you get to study scriptures with a liberal heart, that's the moment you've come to know God and Christ for who they are. That's the moment you realize that all your routine worships are nothing else but routines!!! Routines you are expected to stick to in order to be seen as spiritually mature.

Janosky:


Continue with your eye service applauded by WAILERS, you dey do yourself.

Without a deep, close personal relationship with Jehovah God and His Son Jesus Christ, you are just going through the motions until small breeze go blow & you fall yakata like the WAILERS on this thread.
This one think say to worship Jehovah nah just to go kingdom hall every week,give comments for meetings plus go preaching.

Faithless shudren without love for Jehovah God and accurate knowledge of God and his Son Jesus Christ.

As 1 John 5:3 & John 17:3 dey sweet us JWs nah so e dey pain dem WAILERS typing GIBBERISH

Who is this?

Funny thing, y'all know how to hide behind your keypad and say really nasty things to people who question your belief system. But when you go out for door to door preaching, una go dey form nonesense up and down dey claim peaceful people.

Carry your biased reasoning out of here because I wasn't talking to you in the first place.

I can see how well y'all know Jehovah yet keep doing all sort of nonesense. Tomorrow nau, you'll open your mouth and say 'I'm an elder/M.S in ... congregation'

Aemmyjah:


Your comments were read and ignored
Stupid comments indeed
Is this how critical thinking leads you to?
You think so reversed

First, what we read is the scriptures and not what governing body said
The scriptures were written long before the governing body were conceived

The BIBLE (God's word) says that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous
Jesus christ is to judge both the living and the dead and not us
Our own is to tell them what the Bible says and leave the judging to God
Only the WICKED, that is the unrepentant evildoer will not be resurrected but it is God that knows such ones
Whether an olumba or jujuman or jihadist or satanist? Should we tell God who to resurrect or not? He is eager to bring back the dead ones
From your experience, the sister was not prejudiced to the olumba woman unlike you neither was she judgemental, she comforted her using God's word. Which other 'christian' group will have used the Bible to comfort an olumba woman?
Are you angry the sister used scriptures to help a grieving woman or what is your point? Would you have wanted to follow a religious group that will be telling her about hellfire? Even if the deceased is the founder of the Olumba church, Jehovah has every right to resurrect her if he PLEASES.
He himself said that he will have mercy on who he will have mercy, should we question his mercy? We won't be like prophet Jonah
Jehovah God is reasonable and just. Many did not have the opportunity to learn about him, many were ignorant and many did not have sufficient time, many thought their form of worship was pleasing to him. Background is also a factor.
He will resurrect billions of people both the good and the bad. The bad ones will have to be educated on how to live righteous lives. As they apply what they learn, they will be brought to perfection but those who rebel will be destroyed

You really know nothing about the bible and Jehovah's Witnesses. No one is begging you bros (whether na bros abi na sis)

The bible says that Babylon the great will be destroyed but before then, her symbolic waters will dry out. You never understood that scripture maybe your ears are always at home whenever you go to meetings

No wonder you been arguing with me since based on what you THINK we believe

Lol. Another hypocrisy observed. It's actually YOU who knows nothing about the belief system on resurrection. Now, the scripture mentions the resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous. Who are those you people classify as unrighteous?? Those that had either not heard about the word of the JWs or had not had the opportunity to act on what they've heard NOT those who had been preached to severally but still went ahead to worship with whatever denomination they choose to worship with.

Those ones, y'all have classified as the 'wicked', those not deserving of resurrection because they HEARD and HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LEARN but never acted upon what was heard. Those are the ones YOU go out to the field ministry and LIE to their family members telling them God will resurrect their dead loves ones when you've already condemned them in your heart as not being part of the unrighteous or even the righteous but being part of the WICKED!

And now you've said Christ chooses who he'll resurrect. Hahahaha. Okay o. . You are just as confused as the belief system.

And talking about the 'bad ones' that'll be resurrected? Who are those 'bad ones'. If you don't know, let me tell you what was taught in the last WT study article. These are people who did not have the opportunity to learn about God or were not able to practice what they learnt. E.g The people of old. Faithful ones who DIED even before Christ came on earth. E.g people who had not heard about the good news, people who had heard and had a change of heart but somehow were taken away by death! Do you need more explanations?

Oya, answer now. People who have been talked to SEVERAL TIMES concerning the armegeddon yet have REFUSED TO LISTEN, when they die, will they be resurrected? And if they will, will they be resurrected to everlasting life or everlasting cutting off?? Eh! Oga that listens better than I do in meetings!

Aemmyjah:


Show us a better performing group
Infact show us a group that does same or even half of what Jehovah's Witnesses do

We are not perfect
Sometimes, we make mistakes that really offend others even in the congregation both action and speech

It has happened among God's people from ancient times
A faithful man of God who was ruling killed one of his loyal soldiers after commiting adultery and impregnating her. If you were a brother to that man, will you choose to leave the organization cos the King was not executed which was the right judgement.
High priest Eli children who were priests were corrupt and immoral and Eli did nothing about it. Would you have said the nation was not of God and left?
Some kings were bad, others were good

Even in Jesus Christ time, some things he said and did was shocking that even 70 of his disciples who once preached and returned happily left him but the 12 remained though they don't fully understand what Jesus meant about eating his flesh and drinking his blood
There were constant argument among his followers about who was the greatest; they abandoned him on the night of his arrest, one betrayed and sold him,one denied him three times, even cutting the ear of a slave out of defense for the Lord. If you were there and witnessed these things, will you have thought that Jesus Christ was not the Messiah

Even after the christian congregation was formed, there were issues
At some point, there was prejudice
Another point, Peter who was part of the GB and some of his friends acted discriminately and hypocritically
Another time, a man in the congregation was having an affair with his father's wife and the congregation was quiet about it
Another time, James wrote about some who were prejudiced towards the poor
Even Jesus Christ reproved some in his revelation to John

What about today, our brothers and sisters are imperfect and sometimes may act selfishly, discriminately, say or do things that hurt us. We forgive to promote peace, love and unity...
Your points are meaningless

Thos two people you interacted with in the thread you shared, if you listen to them individually. The only common thing is that they are apostates but their views and beliefs are so contradictory

If you like, you're free to leave
As for me, Jehovah brought me to himself
I'm not gonna leave the faith for anything or anyone

I'll leave when it's time to leave. And trust me, I won't feel any regret for having to leave a denomination as blind as it is. My aim is to get to know God for who he really is and not just subscribe to a denomination's idea of what spirituality is all about (attending meetings, answering questions in meetings, coming out for field service). People do all of these, yet do rubbish when in secret.

Funny enough, same elders who set up judicial committee for wrong doers do thesame thing. The only problem be sey, e never reach time to catch them.

Courz:


If she is really free to join other religions just the same way you JWs say people are free to join yours, why is Watchtower holding people ransom by destroying the Family unit, destroying family relationships by teaching you JWs the demonic teaching of shunning people that leave? Is that not how Cults operate? In many countries, there are JW families that haven't spoken to one another for more than 10 years, even till death. Some do not get to know when their family members die just because they left the Cult! Your Cult is demonic! They destroy Families and they are paying the price when they keep get taken to court over and over. The Norwegian government have stopped funding Watchtower because of this destructive policy. And your foolish senile Freemason gods, the Governing body in your recent broadcast were lamenting about it. They must really love free money so much for them to ask you foolish JWs to pray for them.

If your Cult is the best religion in the world, why are there victims of Child Sexual Abuse and those victims are taking Watchtower to court? And why is The lovely and Holy Watchtower punishing victims for speaking out? Why is Watchtower selling Kingdom halls, Bethel branches and Assembly halls around the world if you JWs have no match outside amongst religions? Why are people so eager to leave your Cult still? Why are there Pedophiles in your Cult? Why is there Adultery, Fornication, Murder, suicide, Tribalism, Racism, etc happening amongst you if truly no one will find a better religion better than yours? Why are there PIMOs eager to leave in your Cult? The way you talk boasting about your Cult is just like an abusive Husband boasting to his wife that she will never get any man better than him. Goes to show the abusive nature of your Cult.

Bow your head in shame because several people completely disagree with you with the many Kingdom halls being sold. A better alternative to JW is JESUS! Jesus Christ! Everyone should leave that Satanic Cult of yours and follow Jesus! I know that this is a completely foreign concept to you because you are not a Christian. Let that sink in!

Exactly! Assuming I was having this conversation with him face to face, they would've held a judicial committee for me in a time, tagged me as a lost sheep and a prodigal child who has left Jehovah. They'll have me removed from the denomination and have completely stop having anything to do with me!! This is the exact reason a lot of people who would've left since are still there TIED down to some stupid denomination.

A denomination where a father could go as far as disowning his own child and not even reaching out even in times of serious need. Stupid cult system!!

And yes, Jesus is the key!

Aemmyjah:


Show us a better performing group
Infact show us a group that does same or even half of what Jehovah's Witnesses do

We are not perfect
Sometimes, we make mistakes that really offend others even in the congregation both action and speech

It has happened among God's people from ancient times
A faithful man of God who was ruling killed one of his loyal soldiers after commiting adultery and impregnating her. If you were a brother to that man, will you choose to leave the organization cos the King was not executed which was the right judgement.
High priest Eli children who were priests were corrupt and immoral and Eli did nothing about it. Would you have said the nation was not of God and left?
Some kings were bad, others were good

Even in Jesus Christ time, some things he said and did was shocking that even 70 of his disciples who once preached and returned happily left him but the 12 remained though they don't fully understand what Jesus meant about eating his flesh and drinking his blood
There were constant argument among his followers about who was the greatest; they abandoned him on the night of his arrest, one betrayed and sold him,one denied him three times, even cutting the ear of a slave out of defense for the Lord. If you were there and witnessed these things, will you have thought that Jesus Christ was not the Messiah

Even after the christian congregation was formed, there were issues
At some point, there was prejudice
Another point, Peter who was part of the GB and some of his friends acted discriminately and hypocritically
Another time, a man in the congregation was having an affair with his father's wife and the congregation was quiet about it
Another time, James wrote about some who were prejudiced towards the poor
Even Jesus Christ reproved some in his revelation to John

What about today, our brothers and sisters are imperfect and sometimes may act selfishly, discriminately, say or do things that hurt us. We forgive to promote peace, love and unity...
Your points are meaningless

Thos two people you interacted with in the thread you shared, if you listen to them individually. The only common thing is that they are apostates but their views and beliefs are so contradictory

If you like, you're free to leave
As for me, Jehovah brought me to himself
I'm not gonna leave the faith for anything or anyone

Oh..you agree you are not perfect but won't do thesame if you notice same in some other religious denomination and if they also give thesame idealogy of lack of perfection..SMH.

You still have a very long way to go. Really! As long as I've known this JW denomination, it is just as faulty as other denominations that the JWs tag to be Babylon the Great - the world empire of false religion.

I'll show you a group. Promise me you'll come and interact with the group and attend their religious services to confirm what I've said. Promise?

When something gets too much, there's no need masking it with the imperfection thing. No need at all. You've definitely not interacted with lots of JWs and see WHAT BROTHERS DO!! Most of them living the double lives! What differentiates them from guys of other denominations? The fact that they live double lives!! People that do rubbish under the covering of elder and ministerial servants.

E better make person just come out clear sey him dey misbehave than hiding nonesense yet criticizing others!!

Aemmyjah:


Lol
What are you saying
You grew up in a JW background but you know nothing
You o my mention what you think you know
We preach and base all we said on the Bible
You go to meetings and learn nothing
We don't preach that bad people go to hell
The bible says our dead loved ones will be resurrected with the prospect of living forever. Which other christian group does that?
I said I don't believe in going to meet any religious person for miracles, is that hard for you to understand?
Is it only in churches people see such wonders? Some muslim clerics to do same, some members of Eckanker do same, juju doctors do same. Are they from God?

Again, show me just ONE real miracle done today or the church that does so. Jesus christ was known as miracle worker so you too should know places where they do miracles or remain mute if you don't know

Paul preached the resurrection to the gentiles
Today too, we tell all about God's promise that he will resurrect the righteous and the unrighteous and that includes their loved ones.
We don't judge anyone as wicked even in our hearts even if they don't accept our message cos some of us were once like that.

You don't know anything about Jehovah's witnesses. You grew up in such family but knew nothing

Ohhh! Good thing you've said it in the most plain words now. Lol!

Reread my message before you start beating around the bush again. When you go out to preach and meet a householder who has lost a loved one in death, what do you tell them?! You open the same scriptures the governing body has approved for y'all and open your MOUTH to tell them that they'll see their dead loved one again. Thesame dead loved one who attends a different denomination altogether. Thesame dead loved one who has been actively participating in other religious activities, thesame dead loved one you've already judged and seen to be destined for destruction in your heart! It's thesame dead loved one you LIE to a householder about in a bid to showing YOUR HYPOCRITAL LOVE and EMPATHY that they'll see their loved one again!

The very same loved one that you've classified as part of babylon the great and part of the wicked!

I remember going out with a sister who met an Olumba woman who had lost her sister in death. The sister had the guts to open scriptures, comforting her that she'll see her sister again. Yeah??! This same sister that was also part of the Olumba denomination and held notable positions there. This same sister that wasn't doing what the denomination will approve as being worthy for resurrection??! Why the stupid lie??

Aemmyjah:


You're already tagging yourself an apostate
You're free to join any religious group you like but I bet you will NOT find any religious group clean in terms of morals and spirituality like the Witnesses
You won't find a group like us
Your fellow apostate will offer you shepherding visits and comfort
You're free to leave, all of us are finding joy in helping sincere, honesthearted ones in coming to know Jehovah. I have been sharing such joy despite many challenges
I saw your conversations with Courz and I was laughing
Courz that was condemning commemorating Jesus Christ death as if we are the only ones that remember his death. Same man was saying the name Jehovah also represent Satan as if we are the only ones that use the name. You have handed your mind over to something else and you can't blame Max for being a Witness. Our organization has to be orderly


You started by accusing me when I mentioned miracles
Since you have nothing reasonable to say, you want to run away claiming apostate and joining babylon the great
Run away to your cradle

Yeah! I won't find any religious group as discriminating and hypocrital! I understand.

The JW denomination tags people who doubt the denominational belief system as apostates. And you know that! Stop trying to push the whole stuff to me. You know quite well that if we were to have a face to face conversation, you'll have the elders involved in a bid to helping me rekindle my love in Jehovah. So, what you just said makes no sense.

Between, who's Courz? Saw a conversation I found to be TRUE about the JW denomination and I agreed to it. Where's the 'same man that saying Jehovah represents Satan' coming from?

Wasn't accusing you. Was telling you the truth. Yeah. Same way you are running away by using the same repititive question of listing the miracles I see today even when I had mentioned them. Lol.

Don't worry, when the time comes, we'll hear! Hopefully, you are not part of those elders who go about molesting young children in the organization. Oh! You may still be quite new to the system. So, that's okay.

Aemmyjah:


Good
Next time, when someone says he believes in something or not
You're not to come to tell him he does not believe what he claims to believe him
Does that make sense
I was not talking to you and you picked it up from there

I told you I believe in miracles, you dispute that
Tell me the miracles you see today and where they are performed, you can't mention any
You wanted me to tell you I don't believe in miracles right?
That's how your mind starts to get badly critical of others when you choose to become wise in your own eyes

And I'll still say what I earlier said 'stop lying to yourself!'. Same way y'all go out in the field ministry DECIEVING PEOPLE that they'll see their dead loved ones again when you've already marked them as 'wicked' in your hearts.

'Tell me the miracles you see today...' Again, same punchline. You don't believe in miracles and that's the fact! And the JW denomination does not believe in it. The governing body does not as well. They give you scriptures in the reasoning from the scripture book explaining to you why all modern day miracles are false.

Yet, you come here lying to yourself and talking about the miracle of life. Yeah? An everyday phenomenon as a miracle? I hear you!

Aemmyjah:


We are not hypocritical
Mention one other group as loving as the Witnesses
I've been interacting with Max and he's said so
If I were to complain to you, your head will swell cos you want to hear what you WANT to hear

If you're dissatisfied, it's up to you

Don't know where you came from to join this discussion though. And the JWs are not hypocrital? Lol! No make me laugh abeg. From the elders to the ministerial servants, down to the pioneers, a high amount of them are all HYPOCRITES!

They PRETEND to love you but they don't! I've had first hand experience. And for someone who was born into the denomination, it isn't something I concluded within days or even months.

The very thing you criticize other denominations for is the very same thing the JWs do. So, there's no point arguing or trying to prove to me that the JWs are better